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Political Commentator 1
All right, Donald Trump is bullying and harassing his supporters online and all historians and scholars that we've spoken to tell us that autocrats particular have particular disd for their supporters. And here's case in point. Main Post this is insane. Trump PAC is threatening supporters with ICE Raid if they don't donate. So here's an email from Pudding boy. His brain is totally cooked. I reached out last week about my Citizens only survey. Your file says you're a top MAGA patriot, but my records to my survey still say response pending. Don't tell me you're an illegal alien. That cannot be true. This is your final moment to prove me wrong, please. And then it's like, are you a proud American citizen or does ICE need to come and track you down? This is unbelievable. And here's all I have to say to this is the Republican party.
Political Commentator 2
During.
Political Commentator 1
Nixon and his crime seems so quaint now and so pedestrian at this point compared to everything that that pudding boy and the army of psychopaths are up to. Just this alone, number one is so white trash. Number two is so toxic. Number three are his supporters. I guess they're really this stupid, you know, like if you throw in patriot. I mean like could you imagine if Obama sent something out like that? Could you imagine if Kamala Harris or Joe Biden sent something out like this?
Political Commentator 2
No.
Political Commentator 1
Could you imagine? Imagine. And then all of these corporate TV channels have all of these people on who sit there and act like, like Donald Trump has decorum or he just has a different governing style and it's like he is an unhinged, toxic psychopath surrounded by even more unhinged, toxic psychopaths because at least maybe there's a little bit of COVID that like, okay, he's got dementia, right? Stephen Miller doesn't.
Political Commentator 2
Right. J.D.
Political Commentator 1
Vance doesn't. They're just hateful and psychopaths for sport.
Political Commentator 2
Well, here's the thing. I, you know who Else held Nixon accountable, the press. And that's why he systematically dismantling the freedom of the press. I mean, look no further than Laura Loomer is now a credentialed agent at the Pentagon. But my thing is, where is this money going? He's a lame duck. He's turned out. So this is a clue as much as anything. He doesn't think he's done. He's still grifting now, I'm sure it's going into his pocket, but it has to go somewhere before it goes there. And it's. He's acting like he's campaigning again. That's my thought.
Political Commentator 1
We need to get all money out of politics. I mean, election should be publicly funded. This is the amount you get. This is the amount you get. You have two months, this permanent campaign, raising billions of dollars, grifting your supporters, emotionally blackmailing them, or you think that are you an illegal alien? I mean, patriot. I mean, it's just, it's so juvenile and so ridiculous. I just cannot believe, I cannot believe that we have to get on this and talk about this, that we have to get on our YouTube channel and talk about him sending these juvenile, toxic emails to his supporters. And you know what? I bet a bunch of people donated it just.
Political Commentator 2
I'm not an illegal alien. I don't want him to think I'm an illegal alien.
Political Commentator 1
All right? And so obviously a lot of people are late to the party on this. A lot of people during the last presidential campaign got intoxicated by Trump's campaign. They got intoxicated by the fight, fight, fight photo, which I'm now going to go on the permanent record. I think he totally staged the assassination. I watched it. I think he st. Lowered the flag. They let the press go in. I think he staged the whole thing. That's just my opinion. Maybe I'm going blue or not. I don't care. It. We're in the middle of Trump's 2.2.0, but a lot of people like Andrew Schultz fell for all that crap. And Donald Trump is a lot of these guys idealized form of masculinity and they submit to him. They, they're submissive to this man. They don't stand on anything on their own. And he is so objectively deranged, objectively not for democracy, objectively a Nazi fascist freak show. So even these guys who on their channels just couldn't promote him enough and bought into all of this, you know, crap that he so, you know, wants to make America great again, which is objectively. A failure in Trump 1.0. Now it's, you know, Monday morning quarterback, play the clip.
Political Commentator 3
Every time something horrific happens, they keep going. But look at the pedophiles we got. Look at the murders we got. Look at all the violent criminals we got. I looked at the numbers. It's 5% of the people they deported are violent criminals.
Political Commentator 2
Yes.
Political Commentator 3
There's probably more pedophiles in the Oval Office.
Political Commentator 1
Exactly.
Political Commentator 3
If you bring up another fucking pedophile about deporting and you're not releasing the Epstein list, just shut the fuck up, all of you.
Political Commentator 2
Yes.
Political Commentator 3
I don't want to hear anything else about, oh, we got to get deport the pedophiles. They're right here. Yeah, they're right here. They're a list of them. And you're not exposing it.
Political Commentator 1
Pumps.
Political Commentator 2
I love him saying that because this whole manosphere and all these conspiracy theorists were obsessed with the Epstein files. And now you see some trying to give cover, you know, well, it's Pam Bondi. Oh, well, you know, we want to protect the victims now. It's all bullshit. They want to protect him. So this is part of the splintering on the Epstein files, which the two things that seem to have harmed him the most politically are the Epstein files and what is happening with ice. And so for someone that is so locked in, that had Trump on his podcast, was leading the charge for Trump 2.0, this gives me some type of optimism, albeit limited. But then he goes on to say in that same podcast, this about ice. Kylie, play that.
Political Commentator 3
That one about what happened in Minneapolis. I murdered an American citizen in cold blood. And then the Trump administration called him a domestic terrorist. Yeah, that's it.
Political Commentator 1
Yeah.
Political Commentator 3
Like, plain and simple.
Political Commentator 1
Yeah.
Political Commentator 3
I see the administration trying to spin it, and it's fucking disgusting. It's like they didn't even have a moment where they're like, hey, we're reviewing the footage. We're going to try to see what's really happening. All of them, Trump and all the cronies put out collective statements that immediately blamed an American citizen that was exercising his first and Second Amendment rights. Right. He has the right to protest. He has the right to carry a firearm. He's a legal gun owner. Right. There's no question about this whatsoever. And the administration immediately comes out and they try to gaslight the public, which you cannot do when we have 15 different videos of what happened. Yes. That is what they do, though.
Political Commentator 1
I mean. I mean, what I have to say about this is I sometimes can be like. Which is not Helpful. And so I just want to say this out loud because I know a lot of our listeners are probably thinking what I'm thinking right now. Like, Andrew Schultz, when it. When it mattered to have conviction, you didn't. You propped up. You propped up a guy who. This pedophile stuff and all of these people wasn't new, and you just thought it was the Democrats at the time. But the rest of us who read Objective News knew that he was in the middle of him, that he was friends with Jeffrey Epstein, that it was under his DOJ that Jeffrey Epstein committed, quote, suicide. And so I want to say, fuck you, Andrew Schultz. And so I get how any listener feels that way, but cooler heads have to prevail. And when people arrive at this resistance, no matter where they were during the vote, and that vote can still piss you off, you can have a compound feeling like, he pisses me off. He was such a prick to platform him to get intoxicated on the faux testosterone of this movie movement and worship a man who wears a full face of makeup every day while he sits there and goes, I weave. And everybody's, like, thinking it's hilarious. So that pissed me out. But at the same time, welcome to the resistance. Like, this is serious. This is serious. And he has a large audience, and he made perfect sense there. Everything he said made perfect sense. And so the petty person in me wants to browbeat him. For all the while Kamala was running against him, and they couldn't see how qualified she was and what a better choice she would have been and just leaned into the misogyny and propped up this criminal dictator that wears a full face of makeup every day. And it still fucking pisses me off just saying it right there. But he's here now. And so as we move forward and these fissures explode all over the place, I have to put on my big girl panties and say, we agree now. We agree today. Because it's going to take people like Andrew Schultz to put this type of logic into people who get their news from podcasts only. So, Andrew Schultz, welcome to the resistance. And the bravest thing you can do, my brother, is stand up for marginalized people and stand up for women, because this administration is cruel for sport, for absolute sport, and there's nothing masculine about that.
Political Commentator 2
I completely agree and think that's very well said. I probably don't agree with Andrew Schultz on anything, but I think when I see this, I think if even 100 of his listeners out of the millions, if even 100 change their mind, then that's going to flow to, you know, maybe five people that each person knows. I mean, it's. These cracks are starting small, but they will get big, and they need to get big.
Political Commentator 1
I totally agree. Okay, here is a post of a guy mag guy that's embarrassed by Trump. Pop this up. Eric Spracklin has the American flag in his bio. Of course, I've never been more embarrassed to have been a Trump supporter for the last 10 years than I am right now. I lost countless, countless friends and alienated myself socially in the process. Politics has ruled everything around me. I thought he was different. I really did. I was wrong. And this is the part that's going to be difficult for a lot of us, that we're screaming at the top of our lungs since 2015 about the dangers of this man is being warm and welcoming when people realize they supported and we're part of a cult. And it's something that I need to work on personally, because I'm. I have so much rage and so much anger towards these people that they willfully suspend critical thinking, they willfully suspend their morals, and then they play dipshit at the end of it. And this Republican Party is supposed to have always been the party of individuality and the party of personal accountability. And yet here we're going to have a lot of people that don't want to be personally accountable for willfully. They willfully do not ever let them off the hook. They willfully suspend their moral code, and they willfully suspend their ability to critically think, to support this. Now, here's the thing. This is our country, and I can't sit around if people get deprogrammed or people realize he's diabolical, and they're like, I'm wrong. I was totally wrong about all of this. You guys were right. I cannot and none of us can take these I told you so victory labs. It's not helpful. It's not perfect, productive, albeit it's as tempting as I'll get out. It really is. But it's going to take all of us to get our country back. And once. If we can, if we can survive this, it's going to take years and years and years to rebuild the wreckage that he's done. But at the end of the day, I. I'm fine living in a country with lots of people with whom I disagree with politically. My problem is when. When I disagree with people morally about innocent people getting killed and kids getting kidnapped by their government and put in horrible housing conditions, that's where it's just very difficult for me to give an olive branch to people when they actively and for sport and for recreation enjoyed the torturing and the government sanctioned emotional suffering and fear on other human beings. Whether they're legal or illegal, I don't give a shit. I care that they're people. That they're people. So this is going to be hard, but it's kind of, I'm like having a pep talk with you perhaps, and with the listener. Like, they're going to start and we have to then motivate them to join us to defeat this fascist, murderous, Nazi diabolical regime.
Political Commentator 2
I would say this. I think you're right 100%. And just from a personal standpoint, I was a rah rah evangelical Republican. I was never a Trumper. I wasn't super politically active, but I was 100% in the tank for the Republicans. And I had an evolution. And I still every day am evolving on that. So I believe I. I cannot browbeat somebody that comes over and makes, you know, now says, I was wrong. I can't browbeat them or I would be a hypocrite. But what my caveat would be is, I like your words. Your words give me some hope, but I need to see your actions. And I've kind of applied this test to Marjorie Taylor Greene. And so she says stuff that I'm like, okay, Marjorie, I might, I might be with you. And then she goes on Twitter and says something so fucking crazy. So I think that it shows you she's still down the wormhole. So I would just say, as somebody who has evolved politically, I want to see these people say, you know what? I did it. Like this guy posting on Twitter. I'm sure that this will cause him some major grief because his family, you know, he's isolated from his family now because of it. But that's an action. It's not just in his head. So I'm going to be hopeful that when these evolutions happen, they're accompanied by actions, because otherwise I'm going to be more suspect.
Political Commentator 1
That's really helpful. Pumps. Really, really, really great way to put it. All right, that's all we have. Please, like, subscribe, comment and we will be back later with more news.
Episode Title: Trump Has Lost The MAGA Bro Podcasters, They Think He Is Disgusting
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: January 31, 2026
In this episode, Jennifer Welch and Angie Sullivan (“Pumps”) explore the growing disillusionment among former MAGA “bro” podcasters and influencers with Donald Trump. They analyze the recent turn of some previously hardline Trump supporters, probe political accountability, and reflect on how to handle former Trump believers seeking to change sides. The hosts bring a comedic, frustrated, and emotionally candid tone, infusing the discussion with personal anecdotes and gritty language.
Jennifer and Angie’s tone is biting, humorous, and deeply frustrated, but also pragmatic and ultimately hopeful. They repeatedly stress the necessity for alliance, the need to accept defectors without sacrificing principles, and the importance of ongoing vigilance and accountability. The episode is a cathartic, clear-eyed assessment of a shifting political moment—one that acknowledges the damage done while charting a deliberate, inclusive path forward.