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Most people would rather attend a corporate team building workshop than search for auto and home insurance. Go, team. Feel that synergy. That's why the zebra searches for you. Comparing over 100 insurance companies to find savings no one else can Compare. Today@thezebra.com who's ready for the trust fall? All right, this MAGA regime is intentionally shifting the purpose of government. It used to be government was to help the people, organize the people, provide things for people. And when I say that provide things, I'm not talking about what the MAGA fleabags would think. Oh, they all want to be on food stamps. No, I'm talking about air traffic control, highways, schools, postal service, et cetera. Well, this administration wants to make everybody sick, poor and dependent upon them. Even Elon Musk has been saying in the last couple of weeks and videos, you, you shouldn't worry about your retirement. No one will need to save any money. Everyone will be taken care of. Like anybody is going to listen to a man that walks in to the Oval Office with a black eye higher than a kite on ketamine while his little kid is rubbing boogers all over the Resolute desk. All right, but I guess three out of ten Americans do listen to him. This is super serious. The Environmental Protection Agency is to protect us, the Americans, from carcinogens and things that can cause cancer clusters, et cetera. Not in Trump's America. The Environmental Protection Agency is about destroying the environment and maximizing profits. Listen to the stroke victim here. And we're canceling the EPA's absurd tailpipe emission standard, one of the worst ever. And I revoke the California emissions waiver to stop San Francisco communists from regulating automobiles all over our nation, all over our world. So, okay, number one, the stuttering, the slurring, the marbles in his mouth. I mean, it's very obvious that we're dealing with a stroke victim here.
Pumps
He.
Poppy
It almost sounds shrunk, which is what I think the affect of post stroke. I think he's had a massive stroke and the White House has covered it up, which we've referred to in other episodes. But this is serious. They have changed regulations to line up not with public safety, but with just a company or two or three with their profits. And they do all of this with the support of the family values. The hill I'm going to die on is that I am pro life. And in fact, I have said this for a very long time, and I'm going to continue to say it. MAGA is a death cult. All of their laws, all of Their actions lead to deaths.
Pumps
When you look at their policies, you look at, you know, we don't want vaccines anymore. We don't. We're, you know, their measles are up. I went and got a scan the other day and it said there is an outbreak of measles. They want people to be sick because poor people and sick people, they are disposable. Peter Till said it straight up, and he's J.D. vance's benefactor. The rich people need to control the poor people, the dumb people. And I think that all these groups that are underneath Trump's grass, especially white women, women are disposable to Trump. Everybody in his administration, Pete Hegseth, Donald Trump, obviously women are disposable. They are not necessary. They're necessary to breed Allah, JD Vance. But they don't need this them because they want white rich men, hopefully Christian, but in the, you know, doesn't have to be, but they have to have complete control because they're profoundly unpopular and they want sick people and they want poor people because those people are easier to control.
Poppy
All right, and then let's just think about this, you guys. Think about like what the Republican party was like 10 years ago, okay, Before Donald Trump descended from the escalator or maybe say a couple months after he descended, when Lion Ted and little Marco and low energy Jeb and everyone was Lindsey Graham. They were all saying, if the Republican Party elects this guy, we are screwed. That will be the end of the Republican Party. This guy's America's Hitler. And on and on and on, okay? And remember how they talked about the decorum of the office, the dignity of the office, and they revered the office of the presidency. This is their guy right now that they literally pretzel themselves on cable news, this is the guy that devout Christian Scott Jennings goes hard in the paint for all day, every day on CNN for th. This is their guy right here. Play the clip. You ever notice Joe would always cough before a speech? State of the Union he gets, ah, Ladies and gentlemen. And then it would be like very short. Although the one time they had him spruced up pretty good. Remember, he was high as a kite. So as you can see there, this is, it's not even entertaining. This is a, a dementia ridden stroke victim senior citizen who has mental illness. I mean, clearly he has malignant narcissistic personality disorder. And he's surrounded by a cult of personality. And in this world, this toxic masculinity world, at least the world that I grew up when I was around, men that I felt like were true alphas. If somebody was going on and on and on about another 83 year old man and wouldn't shut up about him, at some point the other alphas in the room would go, get over it. Why are you such a. You, you're the president now. Why do you keep bringing it up? But in the MAGA form of masculinity, I guess it's now like this, you know, of course we know Trump is very effeminate. He, his affect to me is he's a very effeminate man. He's very into makeup, swirling his hair. I'll never forget the day after he met Zoran Mamdani and he was donning his little scarf slash turtleneck. He's into his interior design projects. He likes to listen to phant him of the opera. He likes long belabored meetings with his architect. There isn't. These people say that they think drag queens are a problem. Let me tell you what drag queens love compliments. There isn't a drag queen alive that could sit through a cabinet meeting, right? Like, like this man does. He's a very effeminate man. And this personality cult just constantly enables him. Like nothing he said there was funny. But real men would go, why are you being such a about Joe Biden? He's not president anymore.
Pumps
Well, he has cancer for one. Here's the thing. I do agree with Lindsey Graham when he said we'll lose the Republican Party. I do not believe that a Republican party exists anymore. I think it's maga and the people that won't stand up to maga. I think that they have. This cult has taken all of the power and Mike Johnson is number one allowed it. But I don't think that a conservative Republican party exists anymore. I think that it is completely been eaten and taken over by MAGA. Do you agree with that?
Poppy
100%. I think you're spot on with that. I think that what has happened is the former conservative Republicans, at least the ones that I've known, have been radicalized by this movement. And so I think two things happen. Pumps. You have people that fall that were maybe moderate Republicans that were so put off by him from the very beginning the grab him by the pussy, his horrific business, you know, filing bankruptcy, bankrupting casinos, knew that he was a blowhard and didn't buy into it. People that are not that don't fall prey to this type of propaganda. Critical thinkers, conservative critical thinkers, I think they shifted to the center to center left. The majority of the Republican Party, however, because they have a steady diet of Fox News aren't really big critical thinkers. A lot of racism mixed in there consistently and constantly value money over human life. I believe that all of these people got more and more radicalized and they made a big bargain with each vote, each time they trumped. And by the time they get to triple trump, they're so broken morally, it's broken them in a way that now they're hell bent on saying, oh my God, we were so wrong. This was, he was a huge mistake. I'm coming out of it. There's. We're like quadruple quintuple infinity double down here. Because if they admit. It's like Pandora's box, if they admit one flaw in him, then they have to look at 10 years of supporting this. And I think with each horrific immoral action that this man has done, it has primed his cult to accept more and more depravity. Now, I would argue that they were broken from, from the jump to arrive at this political party because I think the ones that were genuinely conservative, who you might have a tax difference, tax policy difference with a foreign policy difference with. I don't think they ever got on board with the Trump train. And I think that number is very, very, very small because we can look at just the ones we know. Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, they were fucking awful before, terrible. Even Trump picked on them. And now they're a gajillion times worse than they ever were because of this contagious moral collapse in which they've engaged. Which brings me to Lindsey Graham and the subject of Iran. Now, listen, what's happening in Iran is the Iranian regime is horrific. It is a brutal religious regime that is very repressive. There's been all sorts of sanctions. Their inflation is insane. And extreme conditions have brought people to the streets to protest and fight for their freedom. For me, as an American, when the united and I support all Iranian people, I support all people around the world that want to get away from a repressive government and live free and peacefully. That's my, my wish for all of humanity. For me, when I see people, Americans, American politicians that are racist, that are okay with racism, that are clearly anti immigrant, start acting like all of a sudden they're for human rights, my antennas go up, right? My antennas go up big time. Here is Lindsey Graham sitting down with the son of the Shah of Iran and with make Iran great again hats. And this to me is just a super duper red flag. Play the clip. Graham here with the Crown Prince of Iran. I have followed you, your passion, the way you articulate the hope of your people. It will be up to the people of Iran to pick their next leader. I can't wait till they have a chance to do that. But you have really risen to the occasion. Compelling narrative for the long suffering people of Iran. And I believe with all my heart that help is on the way. Okay, this is, this is Lady Graham, all right, who we all know is a huge supporter of Donald Trump's. The fact that anybody in MAGA is saying that they stand with the protesters while Gestapo is shooting American protesters is so incredibly insane to me. But this makes me think, because the one thing Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz always talk about is every country except for the United States of America, specifically Israel. And so when I see that alliance there, and I am not a foreign policy expert, my antennas go way, way up. Because I have to say to the Iranian people, to Venezuelans, to Americans which were living in it, this MAGA movement is not about inclusivity and help and help lifting up the marginalized. That's not what it's about. Let me just show you a some tweets here to illustrate this point. So you all know Richard Grinnell, the old queen that runs the Kennedy center, right? The soul queen over there. All right, so he tweets, I help sneak gays and lesbians out of Iran. And for the first time ever, someone has said, I want to wait just a bit. There is real hope coming from the inside. I don't think you can stop this now. And a MAGA person straight out of central casting immediately responds, don't be bringing gay and lesbian Iranians to America, bro, because that's, that is the slop that is the MAGA movement right there.
Pumps
That's it.
Poppy
And Richard Grinnell then tells this guy to off. But Richard Grinnell thinks that somehow he's safe in this MAGA movement and that he's some humanitarian sneaking these gay Iranians into America. And then he get, just gets spoon fed from the homophobic racist base. Just straight up homophobia. And because it lives in this movement. And I just am very skeptical of these conservatives that act like they give a about human rights. All of a sudden now their paintings are in a wad. We've got to go help Iranians, which I want Iranians to have help. I, I am not an expert enough in foreign policy to know exactly how to do that, but I do know this from living in this regime and covering the Trump from the election to now. These people are not helpers. These people are exploiters. These people have a bunch of up their sleeves. They're, they're not going to liberate Iran. They're going. There's some sinister plan behind it. And I again, I want to emphasize that the plight of the Iranian people has nothing to but my unconditional empathy. But be careful with anybody like Lindsey Graham or Donald Trump or Benjamin Netanyahu or Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz. These people don't give a about people in their own country. If there are Iranian Americans here in this country, their plans are to send them to concentration camps and deport them. So all of this, all of a sudden we have, have a humanitarian crisis and that those people care about it. I'm not buying. And so I don't know if I just stepped in it or not because I know that these situations, foreign policy wise, are loaded and that people that have connections to Iran or people that are Iranian Americans are grieving, they still have family over there. And that this is an incredibly stressful, repressive, violent situation. And I stand with all people in support of universal human rights. And I just know with everything in me that these little twerp white Christian nationalists and that little old queen Lindsey Graham, they don't give a about Iranian humanity and human rights. They do not give a shit. And that old queen Richard Grinnell over at the Kennedy center that's completely ruined the Kennedy sitter in record time. That's his greatest accomplishment. He just got served up some red meat homophobia that is ubiquitous in the MAGA movements, I ain't buying any of this. But pups, I want to close and I want to get your opinion on this. Chuckles all right. These guys are not fighting for us. They're not fighting for the country. And there is a independent journalist named Ken Kleppenstein and I use his work a lot. He's really incredible. He's doing incredible work. He exposed this NSPM7. It's this national security memo where basically they are targeting Americans that look like pumps in me that just oppose the regime as somehow terrorists. Or if you use the word anti fascist or antifa, then you're on a terrorist and all of this stuff. This thing's been out. Ken broke this story three months ago. Chuckles just woke up from his nap and he sent Pam Bondi a letter about it. Pop this up. Schumer in the letter says, I am deeply alarmed by your recent memorandum seeking to implement national security Presidential Memorandum 7. And Ken Klippenstein comments here, so alarmed that he waited Three months to comment on it for the first time. And this, this is like, like Neville Chamberlain was if we give him a one in being a Chuckles and Hakeem are like at a 10. These strongly worded letters. And I'm deeply disappointed. All of this is just like Susan Collins. And so right when I hear people. I used to get irritated when I would hear people say, there's no difference between the parties. I'd be like, like hell, there isn't difference. I can tell you from a person lived in a red state, there's a dire difference. But I can see how working class Americans would see, well, what's the difference between the parties? What's the difference between Susan Collins and Chuck Schumer? They're both deeply concerned. I'm very alarmed. Welcome to adulthood. Every goddamn day I'm alarmed at something. Welcome to the human existence. What's your take on that, Pumps?
Pumps
Here's the thing. I remember when that whole thing happened and it. I'm, I'm really kind of speechless that he is just now three months late.
Poppy
Right.
Pumps
I thought that was in the rearview mirror. I mean, I thought. So here's the thing. On the current leadership we have in Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries, you've lost me. I'm out. Until I see that you are taking active steps to stop this regime. And by that I mean defending ICE impeachment. I want to see action. I don't want to see another strongly worded letter because we are so far past that. We've been past that for almost a year.
Poppy
Let me ask you something really important.
Pumps
Okay.
Poppy
This is something that you have information on, and I do too, that I think could be helpful for the Democratic Party. And listen, it is anecdotal, and we are offering this free of charge pumps in your personal friend group that you've had for years, like your sorority sisters, your high school friends, your mom friends. The majority of the time that you've known them, they have been Republican voters. And since this Trump 2.0, the percentage of them that hate Trump is what?
Pumps
Oh, I was just with them this last weekend and it is 100%. Thank you.
Poppy
And these were a rep. Lifetime Republican voters. Correct. Same with my. I've always had more progressive of friends, but I do have some that were centrists Republicans. Right. The shift that is happening in the electorate has moved so rapidly to the left that I don't think these consulting groups that the Democratic Party is hiring is even calculating it. And when I talk to friends that live in Other states. And Pumps has friends that live in other states, too. And again, you guys, this is anecdotal. There is a massive leftward shift happening in the country that. That the governing class. Chuckles. And Hakeem and the consultant groups that they're hiring, when they try to crowdsource their morals and crowdsource their conviction and crowdsource their opinions they haven't caught up with yet. And the nation did an article, pumps, that said Democrats set to win despite themselves. And I think that that may very well happen. So sometimes in the comment section, some of you all will say, don't bash Democrats. And it's like, no, we have to, because otherwise we don't have credibility. That's what MAGA does. That's what Scott Jennings does. He gets on and he never bashes the Republicans. We have to hold all leaders to account, even Democratic leaders, because I'm telling you guys, there is a shift that is happening in this country that is not registering places, but we see it in the comment section of this beautiful, beautiful community we've built. And I have to tell you guys, and I'll let Pump speak for herself. She was the epicenter of Republican culture her whole life. And I'm telling you guys, they are dropping like flies.
Pumps
Yeah. Raised in it. Registered Republican, the whole nine. Here's the thing that I think, you know, I heard that the Democrats are crowdsourcing and doing focus groups on this Ice video about Renee Good. Are you fucking kidding me? Everybody can. Everybody saw it. Everybody knows what it said. You don't need to pay consultants to do it. But I think that when you have lifelong Republicans in my life that I know, including myself, it was. You were raised in privilege, you were white, you were upper middle class. So all. And very Christian, very evangelical. Not all in my friend group, but a lot. So it was, we're better than them, we're divine, we're righteous, all that. Okay? But putting all that aside, people don't like to see other people murdered. People don't like to see people. I mean, obviously the Stephen Millers of the world, too. But the large majority of people in my life do not enjoy watching people be shackled and handcuffed. They don't enjoy the clips from seacot when they see Christine with her really expensive watch in front of all those people piled in a cell. It's easy to vote Republican when it's just, oh, yeah, well, I mean, they're mean to gay people and they're. They're racist, but that. It's not in my world. Every day. You can. You can block it out. This is impossible to block out. It is in your face. It is the manifestation of everything terrible about human beings in our society that we have demeaned and dehumanized people more than we have pets. People are more apt to dehumanize people than their fucking pets. So we have a real problem. And I think just based on my life, it starts with the evangelical Christian movement. I'll die on that hill. That's where it starts. But people that have just a modicum of privilege and common sense, they look at this and they're horrified. That's been my experience. They do not like it.
Poppy
I think the Democratic Party is in for a rude awakening in these midterms because their electorate is not like maga. We're not like, what are our marching orders? Who is the person that we vote for here? We want politicians that aren't beholden to corporations. We want a politician that has the balls to watch that video and say, I don't need to crowdsource it. That save the goddamn money. We need to abolish ice. And I will take that message to the electorate and say, do you want to fund a domestic terrorist organization that does this to fellow Americans? The majority, overwhelming majority of Americans will say, no, we don't want to pay for that. We don't like that. And they're in for a very rude awakening because there is a massive leftward shift where people like me who've always been liberal, I've gone further to the left. People that were Republican light have moved to center left. And the more and more information you get about corporate greed, the more difficult it is to stomach. And then. And I firmly believe that if the Democrats took a message of we believe in firmly regulated capitalism, some people call it Democratic socialism. I think if they message, we believe in firmly regulated capitalism that keeps us safe, that fights to where people don't live in abject poverty. But these corporations have too much power. These corporations are picking our president. Nobody should have $300 million just sitting around while they're high on ketamine all the time to go elect some dipshit that then does all of this. And so the Democratic Party needs to quit crowdsourcing their morals and. And lift up leaders like Chris Van Hollen, who is serious about human rights. He is serious about it. He doesn't have to go crowdsource it. And so I think that these. If we make it to these midterms, we're going to see a lot of progressive candidates. And I think the 2028 candidate is not going to be somebody who we think it is. I think it's going to be somebody who comes out with conviction and doesn't have to crowdsource their morals and isn't afraid to answer any question or go on any platform and be uber, uber disciplined. And I think that is who is going to rise up in the Democratic Party. And I don't think we know who it is right now. It's not going to be Gavin Newsom. It's not going to be Kamala Harris. It's going to be somebody who isn't chicken shit to stand up to corporations and billionaires. All right. That's all we have. Like, subscribe. We'll be back later with more news. It.
Episode: Trump in Total Collapse After Disaster Week as He Face Plants on Stage
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: January 17, 2026
In this episode, Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan dive deep into the latest developments in American politics, focusing on what they describe as Donald Trump's disastrous week and decline. With their signature mix of sharp wit and progressive candor, they dissect the Republican Party’s transformation under Trump, MAGA’s hold on American conservatism, the implication of recent policy changes, the failure of Democratic leadership, and the shifting political landscape among former Republicans.
The hosts are blunt, unsparing, and irreverently comedic, frequently using strong language and sarcasm to highlight what they see as the absurdities and dangers of both MAGA politics and Democratic complacency. Their commentary is infused with personal anecdotes, clear leftist principles, and an urgent call for more authentic, progressive leadership.
This summary covers the core arguments, contextualizes key commentary, and supplies memorable soundbites—with timestamps—to offer a comprehensive, engaging portrait of the episode for listeners and newcomers alike.