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Host 1
We're on the eve of the release of the Epstein files from the Department of Justice. Although I believe it will be so redacted and so many privileges will be taken, we're not really going to learn anything. But what we have found is the Republicans are scared to death of the release of these files. Pop this up, Kylie. We have national news and analysis. Leaked Epstein files talking points instruct Republicans how to point blame away from Trump. And if you go into the article, you see the memoir, first published by Fox News outlines how congressional Republicans should direct any discussion surrounding the content contents of the Epstein files away from Trump and outlined a list of accusations to allege against journalists and Democrat lawmakers. In essence, the memo gives a stepbystep instruction on how to utilize a psychological manipulation tactical tactic known as Darvo deny attack reverse victim offender in order to brush aside any alleged wrongdoing by the president while villainizing his opposition and framing Trump as the victim. Democrats have just demonstrated a sustained pattern of misconduct, the memo reads, to fabricate yet another politically motivated hoax targeting Trump. As a result, nothing Democrats post or leak on this matter can be taken at face value. Now, if that just doesn't scream we know he's as guilty as sin and ended up to his cankles, I don't know what does. I mean, it's unbelievable.
Host 2
I mean, here's the thing. They can try to do this all they want to. Susie Wiles just said in a on tape interview, he, he's in the Epstein files. He's on the flight logs. He's right in the epicenter of them. And Pam Bondi whiffed it. They gave out nothing burgers to the press. And you got Dan Bongino, who has quit his job right before the release of these Epstein files, which I think is a really, really interesting thing. And he's going to go straight back to podcasting and this is going to be one of the first he's going to get a big book deal and this is what happened in Trump Point zero. They start pulling away and you're going to start seeing all of this. But they can say whatever they want to. The Democrats can just say the evidence is the evidence. But even Trump's chief of staff said she's read them. He's in them. He's on the fl. On the plane. He's everywhere. The Republicans are liars. They lie to you about everything. They lie to you about health care. They lie to you about family values. They lie to you about them being Christians because they just use it. The Republicans are liars and they're lying to you about a pedophile president. That's what they're lying to you about.
Host 1
Well, and not to mention, here's the thing. Trump does this whole, you know, Darvo thing all the time. That's what his M.O. is. And I look at the release of the Epstein files and the Dan Bongino thing. Here is Dan Bongino on his podcast in 2019. And I want to talk about that because I, I'm, I'm with you. I think it is so interesting that now after having access to all this, he's leaving. So just pop up what he said in 2019 about the Epstein death.
Dan Bongino (clip)
Listen, that Jeffrey Epstein story is a big deal. Please do not let that story go. Keep your eye on this. Katherine Rummler, I want you. We need to keep the heat on this case, folks. There are a lot of people who are knee deep in the Washington swamp who are not telling you the truth about serious allegations out there that Epstein may have had video and audio of people out there doing things they shouldn't have been doing. And you should be asking yourself the question, how is it that all these people, the CIA director, the Obama fixer, Bill Clinton, all intersected past with Jeffrey Epstein? Jeffrey Epstein isn't with us anymore and nobody seems to want to talk about it outside of a few entrepreneurial media outlets saying, hey, this is a big deal. He killed himself. Again, you want me to, I've, I've seen the whole file. He killed himself.
Host 1
Okay, sorry, I misspoke. He was, there was another clip that he was talking about in 2019 that Jeffrey Epstein, there's no way he could have killed himself. So in 2023, he's saying, you know, it's a swamp. There's all these people involved. He gets in, he sees the files, he, you know, tows the company line. He knows a thousand FBI agents were taken off other investigations to look for Donald Trump's name. He knows that Pam Bondi it up so bad, as you said, Susie Wiles told us. So I'm wondering, is it a crisis of conscience on Dan Bongino leaving so that he can come out and then go to the same audience and reveal the truth, or is it what you alluded to first of all, he doesn't like to work. We heard him crying around that he has to work too much. And second of all, a book deal or, you know, what are his intention with this? You would think maybe there's a crisis of conscience, but, I mean, I can't even imagine anybody.
Host 2
There's not a crisis of conscience in Dan Bonino. Please. I mean, there's. That is just not something that's happening. These people thought it would be fun to be in the FBI. It is hard work, FBI agents. That is a very hard, stressful job. And then also, once he gets in there, the one thing he made a bunch of money off of was riling up Qanonors and a noble cause about what powerful people are involved with Jeffrey Epstein, what powerful people sexually abused and raped young girls. And. And how is it getting covered up? He just thought it was going to be all Democrats, right? And he gets in the Death Star and he finds out, number one, being an FBI agent is hard. Podcasting is a lot easier, a lot less stressful, a lot less accountability. And number two, the guy that I voted for, that I came to work for, is. Is knee deep in this. And so there's no. None of these people have a conscience to go work for a man that tried to overthrow the federal government, who packed his toys up and left Washington after Joe Biden beat him, who has all of these depraved billionaires in his pocket, who allows Stephen Miller. Because Trump's too lazy. He's just too lazy to give a. About human beings. Allows Stephen Miller to play out his inner childhood trauma. I don't know if he got bullied by a Mexican kid or something growing up in Santa Monica, but there's something deeply wrong with him. And he's allowing Stephen Miller to go full Nazi on the United States, and he's allowing all of these dipshits. And even Susie Miller has an awareness. I mean, Susie Wiles. Susie Wiles has an awareness about how this plays. That's why she. Her Vanity Fair article is the way it is. It's like, oh, don't trust her. She's setting some trap. She's not setting any trap. She's just trying to make herself in the. She can say, yeah, you know, like, I was the chief of staff, and all of these guys did all this crazy shit, and I tried to stop them because it's. And here's the thing, we all have to get ready for this. I'd love for big trials and all of this stuff to come later. It's not going to happen. Our system has so many flaws in it. The Electoral College screwed up. The pardon situation with presidents is screwed up that they can pardon anybody they want. The Supreme Court not having term limits or an ethical board or an ethical committee is screwed up. And so we're going to continue to suffer the incomplete nature of our democracy. And when the Democrats had power, they didn't fix the things that they should fix because they're too busy playing patty cake with corporations. And so all of these people are going to get pardons by Trump and the Supreme Court's going to allow every bit of it. And it's just, it's exhausting. But I just. Dan Bongino's lazy and wants to go back to podcasting and he's going to write some book. This is money oriented. There's no virtue in anything that he's done.
Host 1
What do you think about Mike Johnson as we're on the eve of the Epstein files? Mike Johnson has had Trump's back this entire time. He can't even condemn what he said about Rob Reiner. So is he just going to act like this is, you know, well, we didn't. It was a hoax or he will.
Host 2
Look in the camera and he will gaslight and he will say, president Trump is the most transparent president we've ever had in history. He's released these files. We stand with the victims. He will stand there and lie and then thump his Bible and start quoting scripture for the victims while he protects the abusers. That's what he's done. That's what he will always do. Nothing is there's going to be no new movement or personality change in little Moses. Mike Grinder Johnson.
Host 1
I think you're right. All right, please stick with us for more news. We'll be covering the release of the files. Please like this video and subscribe to our channel.
Episode Title: Trump In Total Collapse As Epstein List Deadline Approaches and His Team Quits On Him
Date: December 18, 2025
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
In this episode, Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan delve into the political chaos surrounding the imminent release of the Epstein files by the Department of Justice. The conversation centers on the Republican response, strategies to deflect blame from Trump, high-profile resignations within Trump’s circles (notably Dan Bongino), and broader systemic issues within American politics. The episode is characterized by sharp, comedic commentary, earnest frustration, and candid language.
| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:20 | Analysis of the coming Epstein files release and GOP communication strategies | | 02:10 | Angie underscores Republican dishonesty and connection to the Epstein scandal | | 04:01 | Clip of Dan Bongino calling Epstein’s case a “big deal”—highlighting his earlier stance | | 05:55 | Angie rebuts any theory that Bongino left out of conscience, points to opportunism | | 07:35 | Angie rants about broad systemic failures in US politics | | 09:33 | Angie predicts Mike Johnson’s public response and religious posturing |
The episode is fast-paced, highly opinionated, and leans heavily into satirical humor while delivering biting critiques. Jennifer and Angie maintain a casual, conversational dynamic, blending political analysis with personal invective and comedic asides. There’s a palpable sense of frustration and urgency throughout, softened by incisive wit.
This episode offers a raw, unfiltered take on the swirling scandal around the Epstein files, the Republican playbook for damage control, and the broader brokenness of the American political system. Jennifer and Angie provide both context and cathartic venting for progressive listeners grappling with the latest news cycle, previewing coverage of the files’ release in upcoming episodes.