Host 1 (4:04)

Well, he's a, he is a participant in the abuse. He is an abuser and he's continuing the abuse. This is what abusers do. So his behavior here is exactly victim, shaming, obfuscating. This is exactly what abusers do. He is not just a sexual abuser and we know that legally he is and that he's cankles deep in these Epstein files. But he's an emotional abuser. He's a malignant narcissist. And again, him being this way, I understand a crazy person. I understand a malignant narcissist. I understand that somebody can be so demented and deranged. What's really disturbing to me and what the Democrats need to use right now is that the moral depravity of this man that he has exposed the Republican Party that has now morphed into the MAGA party for the depraved, sexually exploitative liars that they are. The Republican Party being the party of family values, of moral values, the pro child party has been bullshit forever and now it is exposed. And so I vacillate back and forth. Do you go and tell people in rural America you've been lied to or do you go and say you're for a party of pedophilia, you're for a party for billionaires. Swing for the fences. The Democratic Party is not for you. You go vote for the billionaires. You get upset because a billionaire is getting taxed. You get upset because a billionaire that is a child rap rapist is being held accountable. If that's how you vote and that's how your preacher and that's how your family and that's your family values swing for the fences. The Democrats want nothing to do with you. Continue to vote for the criminals, continue to vote for the pedos, continue to vote for the billionaires. Do it, we don't give a shit. But when we govern, our policies actually benefit you. That's how short sighted you are and that's how long term we are. So go yourself, rural America. I can't decide which is the better way to do it. And I go back and forth almost hourly on that.

Host 2 (6:12)

Yeah, because I do think that these people that were pounding the desk for the release of the Epstein files, Dan Bongino, Cash Patel leading the charge on their podcasts, they have now, some of MAGA is still interested, but a lot of them now are able to compartmentalize that away and just say, oh well, you know, it's over, he's long dead. Because they know that Trump is at the heart of it. And I don't know why they are so willing to look the other way when children are sex trafficked, when they are raped as little girls. I don't know why they are so depraved like that. But I see a portion of the MAGA movement now excusing this behavior because Donald Trump is as deep in it. And that really is worrisome to me.

Host 1 (7:02)

But he, he nailed it. He said I could shoot somebody on fifth Avenue and my report, my supporters would still support me. This isn't new. This is a cult. This is a personality cult. This is a cult of personality. This isn't new in history, this is just new. To have an American president that is a criminal, a pedophile, why are we even surprised? He was on Howard Stern before he ever ran and said, yeah, I would say 12, age 12, a 12 year old little girl is his cutoff age. And that launched him. That is in his history. And he was still able to be elected to president twice. And so at the heart of American culture, if you think about the way we have whitewashed Jesus Christ from a Palestinian refugee that was a radical radical liberal socialist to this white capitalist, we have kind of manifested that form of Jesus. American culture has manifested Donald Trump. All of our worst character defects as a culture have come to this oozing horrific zit and Donald Trump and he is a representative of a lot of policies prior to him that both the Democrats and the Republicans participated in. Foreign policy stuff, us arbitrarily killing people. That's not new. Obama did that, George W. Bush did that. This stuff isn't new. It's just not so polished and buttoned up. And so we have, as a society, we have to come to terms with how we have collectively glazed and brushed over things and said, well, we're an exceptional country. We're the United States of America.

Host 2 (8:50)

We're fair.

Host 1 (8:51)

And just when sometimes we really have been, there's no doubt about it, but a lot of times we've not atoned for a lot of the human rights violations and foreign policy blunders and letting elites off the hook. And has lady justice always been blind, or if you have a lot of money and you can get a really good lawyer, then is she blind? You know, there's, there's a lot of truth in the soul of this country that we have to get to to get us out of this guy. In my opinion.

Host 2 (9:21)

No, I completely agree. And, and having worked just slightly in the criminal justice system, I can tell you it is justice is not blind justice. If you have money, you are in a much better position than a poor person with a public defender. I absolutely agree with that.

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Host 2 (11:27)

I just want to end it with. In the heart of the Epstein files, we have Donald Trump. We have him surrounded by people in the heart of the Epstein files. And so he and Melania are taking calls from a child on Christmas Eve. And I just thought of all the things to say and I know he's completely unhinged and demented, but I just found this to be rather shocking.

Caller (11:52)

I'm fine. You sound so beautiful and cute. How old are you?

Host 1 (11:59)

I'm eight.

Host 2 (12:00)

Wow.

Caller (12:01)

So smart. You sound so smart. So do you have a. I mean.

Host 2 (12:05)

I just thought that was just. It just kind of gave me the cringies because people are putting this person that sex trafficked women on a call with a little girl. I mean, it just completely grossed me out. Everything he does grosses me out. So this just was kind of the. Okay, where are the people around him that should have stopped this?

Host 1 (12:24)

Well, they won't. There's nobody surrounding him in Trump 2.0 that is going to call him out or be a guardrail. He learned that lesson from Trump 1.0. That's one thing he learned and he now has changed that. So any expectation that in Trump 2.0 somebody is going to have moral clarity, impose a guardrail or confront him about anything is a fool's angle errand on our part to believe that that's the one for sure thing. He Learned from Trump 1.0. And then he got colluding with the Heritage foundation for Project 2025. And he is surrounded by people that are inherently all for power and control over people. They use sex to control people they want to. These are the Heritage foundation masks that they're like this Christian, you know, organization for family values. This is an opportun now for Democrats to have fangs, total fangs, salivating fangs and saying the Republican Party is the anti family party. This is a pro death cult. Look at how many people globally have died since he put a unqualified active drug addict in charge of a madeup organization named doge. Hundreds of thousands of people have died and you voted for it. And you do it in the name of your Lord and personal savior, Savior Jesus Christ. The one thing your triple Trump did is it has proven to everybody that your whole religion is a scam and you try to hide behind it, to pretend like you have moral clarity. The gig is up. This is an opportunity to show those people in the electorate that are lukewarm, that are on the Cusp Independence. I don't understand them, but there are a bunch of them that could go this way or this way to completely keep hammering how immoral this party is, how anti family, how anti child it is. It's an opportunity for the Democrats to take the reins from a couple of things the Republicans have lied and faked and feigned for a couple of decades. Number one, that they're fiscal, fiscally conservative. We know they're not. We know that every single time there's a Republican president, the deficit explodes. We know that every single time there's a Republican president, a Democrat has to come and bail out the economy. We know that that is a lie. And number that they are the party that is on the moral high ground. They have campaigned on those two issues with great success. And it's now time for Democrats with fangs to come take those issues. Because it is abundantly clear that this man, number one in that clip, to me, he just has dementia, tone deaf, you know, surrounded by a bunch of freaks. But this political party more than anything, is a party of sexual depravity. And it is a death cult, in my opinion.

Host 2 (15:22)

Now, I mean, how could anybody argue the facts of that, given the facts? So hopefully we will start. I mean, I'm hoping that there is a Democrat out there to take that mantle, and I think there are, but I'd certainly like to see it because this should be a layup, like we always talk about. Fighting against Trump should be the easiest thing in the planet. All right, so I think I've shown that nobody wants to spend Trump Christmas with Trump. He's pitiful, pathetic, corrupt, hateful and cruel. Please like this video. Subscribe to our channel and we will be back later.