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Host
Foreign.
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Pumps
It turns out that millions of people hate Kanks and came out peacefully, despite Little Moses, Mike Grinder Johnson and Caroline Lovett and demon queen Scott Bessant lying their faces off, saying it was going to be, you know, these crazy terrorists. And I was at the New York rally. Pumps. Were you in Houston?
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Kylie
I was in Houston at the Houston rally. It was extremely peaceful. Very. I really felt like people love democracy. You know what I mean? I got that vibe.
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Pumps
Yeah. I think that what we have, what we're seeing here is, is the MAGA movement has always been exaggerated. And Kylie, I sent you a screenshot of the no Kings rally juxtaposed to Kanks's inauguration. The first one, right here on the left, you have the no Kings rally. Look how crowded. I would call this a erect penis crowd. Right. You have Kings's first inauguration. And this looks limp dick energy. Limp dick for sure dick if I've ever seen one. And you, you may remember Kanks 2.0. He packed his toys up and moved his inauguration inside because he knew that it was going to be abysmal. And so if they were so popular and weren't made up of bots that their oligarch friends, Zuckerberg Musk, put into all of these machines, all of our social media stuff, you guys, they would have a huge counter rally. But they can't because they can't get the crowds. And when they have rallies, here's what happens. People beat up cops with American flags. People take a shit in the Capitol. That's what happens. Or they wear hoods and they say white. They shout, white power or Jews will not replace us. And then they have Nazi flags and Confederate flags. So they can suck it. They can totally suck it. Because the majority of the people in this country are not scared little titty babies that are scared of these dorks. Little Moses Mike Grinder Johnson. That's my new nickname for him and I will abbreviate it. It shall not be abbreviated. Unlike Kanks, who. I mean that just. You get that. But Little Moses, Mike Grinder Johnson, the big Christian out there just lying. He's out there lying today. Kylie, play the clip of Little Moses Mike Grinder Johnson, the one that I sent you, where he's saying it would be easier, basically insinuating, if we had a king be with you.
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Host
Thanks.
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Guest 1
So let's start with the no Kings rallies.
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Kylie
You called these hate America rallies. What do you mean by that?
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Host
Well, that collection of folks that I listed were certainly part of it. We congratulate them on a Apparently violent free speech exercise. I was a First Amendment lawyer for 20 years. We defend that right.
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Kylie
Really.
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Host
But the irony of the message is pretty clear. Everyone. If President Trump was a king, the government would be open right now. If President Trump was a king, they would not have been able to engage in that free speech exercise. Out on the mall, by the way, which was open because President Trump hasn't closed it. In the last shutdown, 2013 era, President Obama closed the National Mall. It closed all the national parks, didn't allow people to engage in all this. So, I mean, they needed a stunt, they needed a show. Chuck Schumer needs cover right now. He's closed the government down because he needs political cover. And this was a part of it.
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Guest 1
And we'll get to the shutdown.
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Kylie
But what he needs political cover. Okay? That's here nor there. Mike Johnson is the biggest fucking asshole on the planet. The only person I despise more than him is Caroline KKK Levitt. I hate her so much. But this guy, he. I was a First Amendment lawyer for 20 years. Bullshit. You were a pedophile apologist. AKA look at the dean of the law school you were at. Do not shove shit in our mouth any more. We know who you are. You've told us. You're a liar, you're a hypocrite, you're a cruel dick that likes Grindr. That's who you are.
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Pumps
Yeah, the DL Demon Queen contingency in MAGA is something Pumps. Myself and all of our listeners are focused in on and, you know, Pumps. And I have this ongoing conversation about little Moses, Mike Grinder Johnson's cheeks that are always flush. And there's an argument that Pumps makes that maybe he put on too much blush. The argument I make is that he. He feels the duplicity that he lives, you know, like he probably just got rode hard. And then he pulls up the next day to talk about the Lord and all of this stuff on the media circuit when everybody on the planet knows this guy is either a DL Demon Queen or is more obsessed with gay men than gay men are obsessed with gay men. I've never seen anything like it. Somebody said his cheeks are from thigh burn.
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Kylie
No, they did not.
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Pumps
Yeah, Thy Bernie asked vigorously. And that nut track, that is the.
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Kylie
Best thing I've ever seen in my life.
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Pumps
Hanks, you know, they tried to propagandize before the no Kings, which by the way, is one of the largest single protests in American history. And these people are so wildly unpopular. We showed you the crowd size disparity, but they tried to propagandize for a week straight. And the propaganda only hits with the cult. And I saw some new polling that came out today. Kylie, can you put up this poll that I sent you? 37 approval rating for Kanks. And here's what I want to say. We can do better. All right, that below 30%. But I have always said pumps, have I not?
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Kylie
You have.
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Pumps
I believe the cult is around 30% of the country. There are 30% immovable voters that are part of this personality cult that believe everything they say, that wake up every morning and think, how can I consume hate? And how can I blame Democrats for all of the problems? These are not big thinkers. These are not informed voters. But everybody is waking up now and everything is political right now. So if you guys have people in your lives, they're like, no, I just don't want to talk about politics. Call them out. Because every thing is political right now.
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Kylie
Including but not limited to the NFL. You know, now we have to talk about Bag Bunny. Did you see that? Lara Trump wants to have her own super both show. She wants to be the an act. She wants to sing. And I'm like, you can't sing. You never have been able to sing.
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Pumps
Is that real?
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Kylie
Yes, that's what I. I mean, that's what I read. I. I don't know. Kylie would have to fact, but I've seen it a couple times and I.
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Pumps
Just thought, yeah, but I don't think that's real. I think that's. I, I think that, that she's going to do like the turning point.
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Kylie
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. She's doing it at the turning point thing because they're racists.
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Pumps
But here's the thing. Like, can you imagine, you guys. Sorry, I'm taking off my shoes. So can you imagine, like you're so upset you can sit and watch black athletes for the all four quarters cheer for them, but then you cannot watch a Puerto Rican, which is an American by the way, sing when we have this huge Latino culture, which, by the way, part of the Latino vote was what helped get Trump elected. And look at how shitty they treat their electorate. Which brings me to what Kanks put this AI video that he put on the Internet as his response to the no Kings rally. And I just want to say that in any other planet, any other country, a president of the United States doing something like this would be disqualifying. But because of hypocritical DL demon queens like Little Moses, Mike Grinder Johnson, they bend the Knee to this guy all the time. But every time you see kinks in video, you guys, he's frail, demented, older than makeup's getting worse and worse, gaining weight by the minute. Looks horrible, right? So they have to put out this AI to act like he's some sort of badass. Play this, Kylie. All right, so it shows him in like a Top Gun style and there he is with a crown on and then he's dropping literal shit on American cities. And so when you think about. And then they, they do it to Harry Sisson who is like a Gen Z influencer. So when you think about them saying that liberals hate America or Democrats hate America or people that oppose Trump hate America, yet then they go out and they show him with a crown on dropp piles of shit on people exercising their First Amendment Amendment, that is absolute disdain for America and for Americans. These are the people who have been butt hurt and wound up like cheap clocks for 10 years over Hillary Clinton calling them a basket of deplorables. These are the people that last week when I was on MSNBC and I called out Little Smokey, J.D. vance, Smokey Eye, sociopath, failed drag queen, little Smokey. When I called him out on Chris Hay show on MSNBC and said he has a wife of Indian descent, mixed race kids and he can't condemn racism, why do you think he's going to stand up for you? Last week they had an all week meltdown over that. All week meltdown. These people cannot handle any form of mirror looking back in them. President Trump doing the Top Gun. I'm going to draw piles of shit because we all know clearly he wasn't wearing his diaper in the jet. So shit just falls everywhere. That doesn't hurt my feelings. That doesn't feel personal to me when I see that. I think this man, people, this is elder abuse. Allowing this to go on, this is enabling this. There are mass interventions that need to be happening. I don't take any of that stuff as a personal affront to me or, or our movement. It just exemplifies how insane and immature and sophomoric and juvenile and diabolical and just what incompetent dipshits this administration is. But when you say something about them that has meat on the bone, they melt down because there's truth to it. There's truth to the fact that little Smokey cannot defeat, defend and condemn racism. And therefore in his lack of being able to condemn racism, it's obvious that he has disdain for the fact that he has a Wife of Indian descent.
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Kylie
Well, and children. That's the thing. It's like he can't defend his children. But going back to this video here, here's what I thought. First of all, I thought he is insane. Clearly, he is insane. Somebody in his sycophant cabinet, you know, Caroline Levitt types, they probably put that together for him. And I thought, any other Congress, like, I fault Congress as much or more than I fault the sycophants around him. Because they have a constitutional responsibility and they are not, you know, going with their oath. They are not upholding what their job is. Allowing this man, who is clearly crazier than a house rat, to put this up. And everybody surrounding me, surrounding him is just this crazy, but that they allow it and they don't take him down Congress. This is the most embarrassing chapter of Congress in my lifetime for sure. And then I go to the Supreme Court. Now the Supreme Court has tariffs in front of it. They have that National Guard question. And I'm like, I have zero faith in them. I fault them just as much with the immunity ruling. It is absolutely disgusting how these people have taken the power given to them in the Constitution and they took a shit and wiped the Constitution with it because they like this old crazy man. And in the AI video, he had all his makeup on, weird colors. I was just like, if you're going to make an AI video, make him look more attractive. But they can't.
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Pumps
Well, he does. He does look more attractive. And that was my point, that he is so frail, so weak, so old. And it's difficult for them to keep up the strong man facade, because historically, when authoritarians or the dictator or the strong man become frail, become weak, become demented, the personality cult falls apart. And as shitty as he looked in that AI video, he looked a million times better than what he looks like on the morning news circuits. Kylie, play the clip talking of him talking about using the Insurrection act just in the last 12 hours. Play this clip.
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Guest 2
And I haven't used it. But don't forget, I can use the Insurrection Act. 50% of the presidents almost have used that. And that's unquestioned power. I choose not to. I'd rather do this, but I'm met constantly by fake politicians, politicians that think that, you know, it's not like a part of the radical left movement to have safety. These cities have to be safe.
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Pumps
Okay, so clearly he's lying. That makes zero sense. And he wants, more than anything, because Stephen Miller, they want to use the Insurrection act because they know. And as Disappointed as I am in some of the Democratic leadership right now, I still believe it would be a massive blue wave because, and this is something I want to talk to everybody about as much as I think a lot of the Democratic leadership is lackluster right now. I'm talking about Booker, I'm talking about Jeffries, I'm talking about Schumer. Because I lived in a red State for 51 years. I would crawl through to where my finger went to the bone, 10ft of concrete to vote for a corporate Democrat over a MAGA person. Because in our state, the marginalization of the LGBTQ + community, the marginalization of the black and brown community, the dismantling of education, the absolute wipeout of women's rights are so dire in red states. So as we move forward right now, we have the leaders that we have. And that's why when you see Democratic politicians come on this podcast, we're holding their feet to the fire. Because if you MAGA moved the Republican Party from a party of national security and decorum, fiscal responsibility, to this shit show, we need to do the same with our party. We need to take our corporate Democrats, get them in the podcast arena and move them away from their corporate ownership. But I will tell you this much, you guys, not voting is never the answer. Because people in red states, these human rights for them are dire. They are a matter of life and death. And some of you get mad at us because we'll go after Cory Booker or we'll call out Israel. And then we went and moderated Kamala Harris's book tour. And I just want to say that when you're on the, you know, in the middle, to the left, you for a Kamala Harris presidency meant for people in our state, in Oklahoma, to a gay kid that lives in rural Oklahoma that can't get, doesn't have the money to get out of that place, it meant a lifeline for those people. And so it's important that, yeah, I don't agree to these corporate Dems. I agree with them on seven out of 10 things. And a lot of their lackluster leadership pisses me the off. But I would crawl through concrete and get my bones to the fin, my fingertips to the bone to vote for one of them. Because when you live in a state where there is a MAGA super majority, everybody gets from top to bottom. The is non stop, and the Christian nationalism is just nauseating. But yeah, I will keep calling out the corporate Dems, don't you worry. But when it comes voting time, if there's a corporate Dem, which I think is kind of magalite I do. Or a MAGA politician. I'm always going to go with the corporate debt. But in the interim, we have a full year now, you guys, that we need to continue to move our party. I think APAC is a toxic issue right now. And you're seeing there's a candidate, I think the last name is Moulton in Massachusetts who returned his APAC money. And so a lot of the things that we're talking about are getting traction, but on the left or the middle to the left, we can't just the politicians that we have, we have to engage with them, call them out and keep moving the goalposts for them to get rid of this corporate money and call them out on their moral duplicity until they get primaried or something. Pumps, what's your thought on that?
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Kylie
My thought is this. I agree with you. We have to keep the pressure up and here's why. We can't vote for MAGA full stop. You can't sit elections out, it's too important. But we have to let them know that we see what they're doing and we have a year to push them and we need to continue to do that because what's happening is you have all these corporate interests and they're losing sight of particularly the working class and the poorest. But so everybody needs to stand up for every socioeconomic group, every race, every sexual orientation, every gender, because it is so important, because they're trying to take rights away from everybody. And I promise you, I was raised evangelical Christian. At the end of the day, per their book, the Bible, it is white men that end up on top, full stop. And in my mind it's white rich men because Trump doesn't give a shit about working class people. And so I don't feel like any need to agree with somebody on every issue. Like corporate Democrats. Like you said, if we agree to three, three things, three out of 10, that's a problem. If we agree on seven out of 10, that's a good ratio because you cannot get everything you want. You don't get it in any period of life or any relationship. There's nothing that you get 100% of what you want. So. But we do have to keep pushing.
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Pumps
Yeah, we do have to keep pushing. And as we head into, you know, like now we have about a year to the primaries and yesterday was, I think, what the country needed to see, that we're not alone. Because Trump 2.0, the resistance has not felt as coalesced as it did in Trump 1.0 and yesterday, you could really feel it. And then there are. Are all of these red, like Idaho, Oklahoma, Kentucky, massive rallies. Over 2,700 rallies of normal people that hate Kanks, hate him. And I want to be crystal clear about this. Hating Kanks is the most patriotic thing any of us can do. Hating Kanks equals loving America, Period. Loving Kinks equals hating America. And I hate speaking in those simplistic terms. Terms. But that's what we're reduced to right now with these dorks and just anti intellectual dorks. But they are going to escalate. And the Christian nationalism and the Christian signaling and their continued effort to try to label the left as a certain way, they're going to continue to do it even though everybody saw. Like I can tell you yesterday, yesterday in New York, I walked probably 30 blocks. It was amazing. There were, I think 400,000 people there. And I was able to get kind of towards the front. And there was this one guy in front of me and he had this big giant sign. I mean, and it was heavy. And he had mounted it to this pole. He was probably, I would say, late 60s. He walked all 30 blocks with that thing. And I saw all different ages, all different skin colors. It was just. It was a happy, festive. There's a guy with bagpipes. There's drummers. Not one arrest. And the split screen of what happens when we protest. Oh, no, my light. The split screen of what happens when we protest compared to when they protest is staggering. Because the most recent protest I saw of theirs were a bunch of white guys in, like somewhere in the south and they had on mass. Or maybe it was in Southern California and they were shouting white power.
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Kylie
Yeah, I think that.
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Pumps
And they can't even show their own faces. Let me see their faces.
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Kylie
Because they are absolutely. The hypocrisy and what they stand for is so hateful. They can do it on the Internet. They can do it with their faces covered. But it is so vile that people. You see all these like things on Tick Tock and it says. And like people, like random people are walking up to people of, you know, Mexican descent or something, and they're like, go back to your country or I'm not going to pay you. I'm going to call ICE and I'm like, you're vile. And then the next thing I read is that person was fired. So they wear masks. Because in normal society, where you go to work from 8 to 5, you go to lunch with a colleague that kind of shit is not tolerated. So they have to cover their faces. The only person, place it's celebrated is in MAGA and the Trump administration. Right, That's, I mean, let's just talk.
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Pumps
About the split screen of this. All of these MAGA people, you know, they use their faith to weaponize against people that live in cities and towns where there's not much culture and the only community they have is in their church. And they weaponize their faith against these people and they get all of these people that make 50, $75,000 a year to go fight for billionaires because they, they've been told by these politicians that it's what Christ would want. Here's my theory about Moses, little Moses, Mike Grinder Johnson. I think that little Moses, Mike Grinder Johnson, he does a lot of gay stuff all the time and that's why his cheeks are blush. And he thinks at the end of the day, the one thing that will help me with God is if I make America a Christian nation, so I can do gay stuff, but I'm going to also make America a Christian nation. And I think this is happening with the Supreme Court as well like Sam Alito and John Roberts and Clarence Thomas and we know the handmaid is a nut and Brett Kavanaugh there are, they've been groomed by these billionaires that, that want a white Christian nationalist country. And I think they think they, they've done the mental and moral gymnastics because they have to know they've studied law their whole lives. They're somewhat, they, not somewhat, they're very academic people. So you'd feel that like, oh, I'm really doing something against the Constitution right now. And I think the bargain that they're all selling themselves is, and the lie that they're all telling themselves is this will curry favor for me with God and Jesus because I'm going to turn the United States of America into a Christian nation and I'm going to betray the oath that I took to the Constitution. Because as soon as you get into white evangelical Christianity, it is a total mind warp. Up is down, down is up. There's no rational thought, there's no critical thinking. And there, when it comes to white evangelicals, it's kind of a monolith. And then when you get to Catholics, it's not a monolith. You have very, very open minded, progressive Catholics that are kind of culturally Catholics. It's a part of their life, it's a part, you know, going to Mass is a part of their grounding sense of Serenity, but they don't take the Bible literally. And so that's why you have an extremely liberal Catholics and then you've got little Smokey, you know, and, and he's like at one point I think he was an atheist at one point and.
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Kylie
Then he was Hindu, right?
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Pumps
I think, yeah. And now he's, now he's a, a Catholic. And some of these people on the Supreme Court, they're like these hardcore crazy Opus day style Catholics. But here's what's interesting right now. The Pope, the American Pope, yeah. He's calling out Christians for the hypocrites that they are. And this is what I think right now we need a lot of in this country. I'm not religious. I wish politics. I wish we didn't have to talk about religion. It's nauseating to me at all across the board. But we are where we are. We live in a very religious country. I think it's going to take for the Israel Palestine situation. I saw a clip with Jon Stewart and I believe the name is Peter Beinart and he was on the late Comedy Central Jon Stewart show. But what is it called anyway, it doesn't matter, John. Anyway he was on that and they were talking about how the provocations and the war crimes with Israel right now to the Palestinians is actually against their faith. And I think in order to save Judaism it's going to take clear eyed Jewish people to speak out against the atrocities and the war crimes of the Israeli government. And then as it pertains to the United States of America, it's going to take clear eyed Christians like Andy Beshear and that James Talarico and the Pope to speak to what their faith is supposed to call on these people to do, which is to leave no one behind and to believe in universal human rights and champion the most for the marginalized. And that's something. As an atheist, when I lived in Oklahoma I always was so shocked that when it came to human rights I was so much more Christian than my Christian peers. I was always so much more Christian. I always felt like people needed health care. I felt like it wasn't my business and it wasn't my place to judge homosexuals and if they wanted to marry then I needed to cheerlead for that. I don't think it's right to bully trans kids and marginalize them even further. I think that immigrants are an integral part of American society that make it better. And I believe that the plight of African Americans in this country has been so devastating and then when, when black Americans start to get a voice, the way white Americans treat them is. It's disgraceful to me. And so I've always found in a room full of Christians that I seem to have more moral clarity than these people went to Bible study all the time and went to church two days a week. Because when it came to, when it comes to gay people, when it comes to black people, when comes to poor people, when it comes to sick people, I saw no empathy in these people. And these people, that personality type, these are the people that are governing the United States of America right now. And when you really dive into evangelical Christianity, the only rival to Jesus is capitalism. And they go neck to neck. That's why you see the prosperity gospel in these mega churches and the righteous gemstones, which is parody. But you guys, it's not far off from the truth at all. In these mega church pastors in Oklahoma, their goal is to grow the churches, make more money, grow the churches, make more money. And it's a, it's a for profit scam. And who looks like an evangelical preacher, who acts like an evangelical preacher, who has the moral depravity of an evangelical preacher kinks. So like for evangelical Christians, he's a comfortable, immoral piece of. Because all of their pastors are just like that.
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Kylie
Well, and I think the one main thing that people, I saw somebody from Denmark was like, you know, in the chat, I just, you know, I can't read very good. But I did see that here's the thing, the evangelical Christian movement teaches exceptionalism. You are exceptional, therefore you are righteous and can judge everybody else. And so that is why I, in my opinion, there is no empathy for anyone they believe is less than them or less.
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Pumps
Let me show you this. Okay. I noticed back when you were religious and then my other peers, to me it seemed like evangelicals there was a huge focus on their personal relationship with Jesus.
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Kylie
Absolutely.
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Pumps
And it wasn't about things that they could do to help suffering. It was all about them currying favor with Jesus. And I remember you and other evangelical friends of mine are like, well, I'm really working on my relationship with Christ. And I'd be like, it's fucking weird. What, Whatever. Like, shouldn't you be, you know, you're a rich white woman, shouldn't you be out helping people? But it's like this pressure where that the religion of evangelical Christianity, you people that are watching that are Christian, Christian light, We're not talking about you. But it seemed like all of my Christian, evangelical Christian friends, there was this pressure raining down them to have this perfect relationship with Jesus. Can you speak to that?
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Kylie
Yeah, it. I think it goes to the narcissism and the exceptionalism. Like, my problems are more important to God than your problems or a poor person's problems. And it's important for me to get everything I want because I'm such a good person. And I, you know, I'm forgiven by God. I'm one of his chosen, so I get to be judgmental of other people. I mean, now, mind you, all of this goes against, you know, different saying, you know, things in the Bible.
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Pumps
There's something we need to investigate. There's something called Christian narcissism.
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Kylie
That's what I say. It's a narcissistic thing where you want.
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Pumps
Narcissist Jesus is all, you know, like, into you at all times. And, and I think that that breeds in a. In a society like America, where we value the individual so much, and evangelical Christianity values the individual relationship with Jesus over the collective betterment of people or of humanity. And so it fits so well. And then the repeat Republican Party is not about community. It's all about the individual. It's all about free will. And so all of these things, it's like a trifecta. And all of these people have ascended to power. And it's so crazy because for years, like, local governments in Oklahoma were like this, and they were crazy and they were embarrassing, but it was just one state or 10 states out of four, 40 that were crazy. And now the entire federal government. But I was so heartwarmed and happy to be a part. I love that you were in Houston and I was in New York. Although I missed you, Renee. And I sent you videos. I know.
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Kylie
I saw them. They were so good. The signs were so clever. I mean, I loved this. I mean, people are clever.
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Pumps
Okay, so I have to show you all my favorite. Kylie, will you go to my Instagram and get the Aunt Tifa one and. And cut it and then pop it up here on the screen.
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Kylie
And I also want to do the Mehdi Hassan. That was my favorite troll of the whole day.
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Pumps
Did you see it? Yeah. He's fabulous. He's fabulous photo. He's so good. And I just feel like right now the best thing that you can do as an American is stand up and say, I will not leave one person behind. I am not going to support a government that kidnaps people and takes hostages via ICE and then tries to play dictator on the world stage. I am not going to leave one. Okay, look, at this, we found Aunt Tifa. These girls were big listeners of the podcast. They saw me and they were screaming and they were so much energy. So I ran over to them. Then I started screaming with them and we all jumped up and down together because we were so happy. And then they had the best signs. And then there's, if you girls are listening today in the chat, tell me that you're there. Who's your daddy now? Ask Aunt Tifa.
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Kylie
I love that the hair is so good on that, the liner. You know, I was really excited, you know, because I'm not familiar with Houston at all. I've not spent a lot of time there, and so there are a lot of people that watched. I hit news, so it felt like I did know people and I wasn't completely by myself, but I just, you know, I'm with you. Like, I saw that Benny Johnson. He's like, everybody here is white and over 40. It's like we had like Gen X all the way to the boomers. And the boomers are mad. I had a lady that watches I hit me. She's like, I have worked my whole life and now I'm doing the exact same I did when I was young, fighting for a woman's right. Like, how did we get here?
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Pumps
Just.
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Kylie
They're just flabbergasted. And I told her, it's our demographic. Our. What are we? Gen X?
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Pumps
You know what, it's. It's a lot. It's. It's not one specific demographic.
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Kylie
No, I know, but I'm mad at.
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Pumps
White women in our group. He had gains, but. But that's the thing. I mean, we're white women. And I think that we can speak to other white women and to all the white women, specifically the ones that I know in Oklahoma City that sit around and watch Fox News and fret over what college your child is going to get into, and then you go to your gay hairdresser and then you go eat at your Mexican restaurant. I've got news for you. You are supporting and voting for something that's going to dismantle everything that you hold dear and your little daughter that you want to go get an education somewhere. This administration is trying to get rid of higher education because they want your daughter dumb, pregnant, and at home catering to some abusive, limp dick husband that's probably a DL demon queen on Grindr when he's not with his family. And so this is. You're playing with fire because these fascists, at some point, even the oligarchs are playing with Fire. They think their money is going to make them immune at some point. All dictatorships, they turn their knives on everybody. And so everybody's playing a stupid fucking game. And you're going to win stupid fucking prizes if you continue this. But the best thing that you can do, especially if you're a big, loud Christian that wears your cross everywhere, is stand up for everybody. Stand up for marginalized people and quit voting like a selfish prick for your pocketbook. Debbie. Nobody likes you anyway. And you're even your hairdresser. Gay hairdresser probably rips you from top to bottom every time you leave behind your back. Yeah, yeah, there's TJ White. He's a gay hairdresser. Tj, you know, you know, you know who I'm talking about, the type of people that, that do this, because I mean, pumps. And I have the same hairdresser in Oklahoma City. And he tells me all the time these women that come in and start like promoting Trump in front of him. And I just think that is so fucking disrespectful, like a lack of self awareness.
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Kylie
And you, you're so unaware of your own privilege. You unaware that you should be standing up for other people because you have never been vulnerable a day in your life. You've never had to fight for your rights because your money and your skin color has always insulated you. And I would have thought that when they took women's rights away from them and put, you know, government officials in people's gynecological visits, I would have thought that would have been a red flag and an alarm. But it doesn't seem to, I guess it's the, you know, just the lack of vulnerability in your whole life. And, you know, you're Christian. Well, I'm pro life. Well, you're not pro life if you're supporting Trump, who's killing people on boats with no evidence, taking in U.S. citizens and non criminal illegal immigrants and they are dying and disappearing and extending to other countries. I agree with the Pope. You are not pro life.
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Pumps
No, there was a sign in New York, a lot of them, that said they were referencing a student named Dylan in New York who was a high school student, Dylan Lopez, I believe, who was kidnapped by ice, I think three months ago, four months ago, maybe longer, and is still in ICE custody. And he was able to get into the United States States because of a Biden amnesty refugee style situation. And this kid is in ICE custody right now still. And so when everybody's, you know, hand wringing, release the hostages, you know, that that which I'm glad they've been released. Now we have a situation in the United States where these, these hostages need to be released that the Trump administration is taking. And where the fuck are all the people that were Alligator Alcatraz. At Alligator Alcatraz, nobody can find them. So this is my thing. Two people that want to be on the left or in the middle or want to be anti Trump. You don't get to cherry pick. You don't get to say this group of people is more important than this group of people. When people are kidnapped and people are under attack and people are oppressed, you have to stand up for all of them across the board. Universal human rights. None of us are free, free until all of us are free. And you know what pisses me off? Pumps. This should be the mantra of the most religious atheists are sitting here saying this and we never bend and we never flinch and we don't ever around with it. And you've got all these around and find out losers on mainly in maga, but some Democrats that do it, that act like Israeli lives are more important than Palestinian lives. It's, it's total. And I want to know where all of these hostages are that ICE is taking. Where are they? Where the fuck are they? It's abhorrent. It shocks the conscience. I cannot stand these and that. All of these Christians sit around and promote this guy and then watch Fox News and then they pray to their Lord and savior with their diabolical thoughts. Eyes, mouth and ears. You, you, you hypocrite. I have had it. No, it's a daily show. That's what it's a daily show.
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Kylie
Yeah, somebody, I saw it, I was like, oh, yeah, the Daily Show.
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Pumps
Sorry, guys.
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Kylie
Well, here's the thing about all this. You, I mean, when you look, in my opinion, there are crimes being committed by Trump and members of his administration and team, Cabinet, whatever, and every single day, like multiple crimes. Taking people and sending them to Sudan that have never been, like, they've never been there. Like that has got to be a crime. They're fucking murdering people from Venezuela. They're, you know, dropping bombs on those boats, blowing them up with no evidence and saying, oh well, they're fentanyl dealers. There's no proof of that. It's just unbelievable that Congress is not standing up for this because you don't have to be a lawyer to know that murdering people without due process is a crime. Taking people off the street and never to be seen or heard from again, that's got to be a human rights violation. And it's just. It blows my mind. It blows my mind that this is happening.
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Pumps
Okay, so let's be positive for a second, you guys. Over 7 million people. Those are just the preliminary estimates. I think it's probably more showed up nationwide. Brian Tyler Cohen reports. Today is officially one of the biggest days of protest in American history. Over 7 million Americans turned out to no king's events to stand up against MAGA fascism. They are faking their support. I double dog dare you, maga. Try to do it. Try to duplicate it. Swing for the fences. We'll sit here and watch our eat our popcorn and watch it. You can't fucking do it. Because people are too embarrassed to admit that this guy. Because they know it's wrong. The cult, they fly their flags with their Trump nuts and dry hump the flag every chance they can get. I'm talking about all the people who triple trump that are, that know better, that are embarrassed, but like greed and a racist. I talking about you. You wouldn't show your ass up to a Trump rally because you know better and you're the most insidious. But you guys, there are people in the country that don't follow the news cycle like all of us. And they see all of this. And this type of public protest can cause the wind to change. And we have to stay vigilant and we have to stay engaged. And you cannot say, I'm so sick of this. It's so overwhelming. Now's the time to lock in even harder because generations before us, during the civil rights movement, during segregation. I just want all of you to think about this. I think about this all the fucking time. I will never forget when I was in school and in my textbook, there was a picture of a black girl walking into school and in the south and white women and men were spitting and shouting at her. And even though it was a still frame black and white photograph, there was so much hatred, so much movement in the hatred. I could feel the racism just from this one single photograph. And I looked at her and she had her head up and she's walking in. And then I looked at all of the rage of all of these white people and I thought, I wonder where all those are now. I wonder, I wonder where, where they all are now. Because they were on the wrong side of history, right? And right now we are the people who are fighting against that and are. We've had to do this before. Bernie Sanders had amazing speech. Oh, which reminds me, let's play Pumps's of Mehdi Hassan.
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Kylie
This was just like I busted out laughing.
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Guest 1
The great irony is of course, that Donald Trump is the son of an immigrant, the grandson of an immigrant and married to an immigrant. In fact, two of his three wives were immigrants. Proving yet again that immigrants will do the jobs that even Americans are not willing to do.
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Kylie
It's so good.
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Pumps
It is so good. He's so good. And you know, here's what I, I know from living in a red state for so long. I know the white people that would immediately because Mehdi Hassan is brown skinned, doesn't have an American accent and is Muslim. I know the prejudgment post judgment and racism that would be projected onto him. And I see with crystal clear clarity how people like him make this country so much better. Better that he's, he's just such an asset. And we have to fight for all of the voices in this country. And Kylie, see if you can find that picture of that girl walking into school. And I want to put that up and I want to leave you all with that because whenever you feel like you want to just. I don't want to watch the news anymore. It's too depressing. I'm too scared. We, you have to remember that these are the moments where 20 years from now, 30 years from now, little kids will be looking into textbooks and saying, why didn't people do anything? Right? We're going to be the people that did something. We're going to pe. Be the people that stood up. Okay, look at that woman behind her, screaming at her. And to me, where are we going to be? Where are we going to be in this moment? And we're going to always stand with the marginalized where the, to quote Martin Luther King, the arc of justice, you know, bends and we want it or the moral arc of the universe bends, but it always bends towards justice. I'm paraphrasing also same chick that forgot Jon Stewart show that I used to binge watch all the time, Daily Show. But we have to be the people that stand with everybody and stand with these hard working people that come over here to find a better life and are getting kidnapped kids, zip tying kids. Yeah, it's so gross. And so to all of the Christians out there that you see little kids getting zip tied and you think, well, I don't, Jesus wouldn't mind, I want to remind you, Jesus if, if he did exist would have been black or brown.
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Kylie
Right? Right. And you know, they're watching kids in court represent themselves, deporting them by themselves. I mean, you had the whole kids in cages in Trump 1.0. And you asked this question at the time, Jennifer, and I was like, you're exactly right. You were like, why aren't all the Christians running to where those kids are in cages and demanding they be released? And it's the same thing here. How can you sit there and watch what they're doing to kids? Even if you hate everybody in the whole world and you're.
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Pumps
Somebody just. Sorry. Somebody just said maga's calling for Don Lemon to be arrested.
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Kylie
I'm sure they're calling for everyone to be arrested. I'm sure at some point, you know, everybody on Will on the left will be on that list. Are you Googling it?
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Pumps
Yeah. Yeah. MAGA trolls are obsessed with Don Lemon. This time it's in regards to his comments Don made about the Second Amendment while on substack. I mean, they're just such.
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Kylie
About everything.
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Pumps
They're just such babies. Jesus Christ. They're just such babies. They just get triggered by everything. They want everybody arrested. And here's the thing. We could make everything the way they want it. Everybody has a gun. Billionaires get everything they want. All the rural people could have, you know, you know, dump Trump, dump education, all this. They'd still never be happy. These are broken, emotionally stunted people. And then I believe there is a segment of the ruling class right now that are DL demon queens. I do. Yeah.
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Kylie
That's why they're so mad. That's why they're so angry, is they can't be who they are because of the religious shame and all that. But, yeah, these are the maddest people about everything, let's not Forget. What are we, 30 days from the cracker barrel meltdown? They wanted to change the crack, which.
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Pumps
By the way, I want to dig into this too, at some point. Tyler Robinson crickets on that whole thing.
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Kylie
Haven't heard a word. Haven't heard really weird word about it. Yeah.
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Pumps
What do you think about that? Like, the whole Charlie Kirk and then they say it's the trans and then nothing. Like, there's nothing. There's zero follow up. There's nothing. Anyway. All right, I think it's weird.
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Kylie
I think it's weird. I think it's fishy.
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Pumps
Weird as. I think it's fishy as hell. Yeah. We love Don Lemon. If they arrest on Lemon, they'll have to arrest us too. We stand with.
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Kylie
Don't they rest on Lemon.
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Pumps
We're.
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Kylie
We're close behind.
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Pumps
We don't come get us. You want to start arresting you Want to start arresting American citizens. You know, that's what you're going to do. Who don't like Donald Trump, then get it on. Do it. You know? Yeah. Somebody says, Tyler is Patsy as hell. I mean, that's the vibe I get from.
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Kylie
I do too. I mean, it's just gotten too convenient all at once. In the Dallas Ice shooter, we haven't heard a word about him. The guy that shot the people that were going into ice. Not the agents, but the Right.
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Pumps
Because he's clearly like maga. Yeah. All right, well, this has been a great Sunday wrap up. We have to keep fighting. You guys remember that 20, 25 years from now, people will look and say, what did everybody do? And you want to look at your people and your family and your friends, and you want your grandkids to say, my mother, father, grandmother, aunt, friend fought. They fought this moment. So I know sometimes I want to bury my head and I think, why the are we doing these podcasts? And yesterday in the streets of New York, so many people came up to me and said, what a difference this makes. And Pump said people did the same with her in Houston. And so that's really cool that we're building a community here. And somebody writes here. I'll leave you all with this. Fascism dies when ordinary people stand together for each other, no matter what or who they are. Agent Orange is pissed because he can't. He couldn't fill a ballroom. And that's true.
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Kylie
Yeah, I mean, we saw the birthday parade. Disastrous.
- [51:58]
Pumps
That was so bad. You were so party. I'd be so embarrassed.
- [52:04]
Kylie
Well, it's gonna be UFC next year. If he lives that long, then struck out first.
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Pumps
Actually, here's the thing. We do not want. We don't want the power transferred because J.D. vance is smoky.
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Kylie
More diabolical.
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Pumps
All right, thank you everybody so much for joining us. We love everybody. Have a great Sunday. Bye Sunday.
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Kylie
Sunday morning by.