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[00:00]
Donald Trump
Foreign.
[00:05]
Progressive Political Commentator
The United States of America has a president that is in the epicenter of a child sex trafficking ring and it gets this spotted news coverage. But more than anything, every single day he gets in front of the camera and he is a raving lunatic. I mean, his mental illness is on full display. His dementia is on full display. His personality disorders are on full display. The unblended makeup on full display. And the press just rolls along with it. Today we had the National Prayer Breakfast. And for those international listeners that want to know, why is this man not held accountable? And I'm going to tell you, it's because not all Christians in the United States, but a very organized cult, White Christian evangelicals support this man to the tune of 80 to 90%. And they allow him to do whatever he wants with impunity. They all go, they all claim they're pro children, pro life, pro family. They all go to the National Prayer Breakfast. And here he is talking about he won't even pray with little Moses. Mike Grindr Johnson, play the clip.
[01:14]
Donald Trump
In 2025 more copies of the Holy Bible were sold in the United States than at any time in the last 100 years. Now how about that? How about that? Did you know that Mr. Speake, Mike Johnson's a very religious person and he does not hide it. He'll say to me sometimes at lunch, sir, may we pray? Say, excuse me, we're having lunch, it's okay with me. But he's a very religious person and he is popular and he's doing an unbelievable job. So I think God is watching over you. God is watching over him. I don't know about me. So I hang around with him because I feel I'm protected a little bit.
[02:02]
Progressive Political Commentator
Do you, do you think pumps that little Moses? Mike Grinder gets what an insult that was to him. He gets that. He says, ask me if we want to pray, pray, we're having lunch. And then he's a very religious man. Like he absolutely cannot relate to it. He says he talks about his religion all the time. Little Grindr. I don't think he even knows that he is being patronized.
[02:28]
Political Analyst
He doesn't know. And here's the thing. If he did know, he wouldn't give a shit because Trump humiliates him on a daily basis with all the ass kissing and all the protections and just hate. I mean, Mike Johnson might as well not even be in Congress because he just is a rubber stamp for Donald Trump, period. So even if he did know, I don't think he would give a shit because he has his lips just plastered to Trump's ass. And I just have to say, did you see the makeup line? It's.
[02:57]
Progressive Political Commentator
I did. And then just the marbles in the mouth, the slurred speech. He sounds like he's a famous teetotaler, but he sounds intoxicated. And, you know, he does this stuff. In any other country, if a president acted like this, and then we saw it in the United States and we had a normal president, we'd be like, God, that's crazy. Why don't they impeach him? That's nuts. But all of this stuff is going on here. You know, all of these other countries, accountability for involvement in Jeffrey Epstein, accountability in trying to cite a violent insurrectionist. Brazil held Bolsonaro accountable. Here it's just like, keep going, buddy. Here he is talking about bragging to Melania about his many crimes at the Christian Prayer Breakfast. Play the clip.
[03:42]
Donald Trump
I got MPs, I got indicted, wiped them out. There's never been, you know, there's never been, to the best of our knowledge, any politician that's ever been indicted who won an election. Very popular politicians got indicted, they lost. I got indicted so much, I got tired of calling my wife. I'd say, darling, I was just indicted again. She said, oh, darling. What, oh, what does that mean? You know, she's very elegant. You saw that from the movie. She's not into the world of indictments. It's not Melania now. She doesn't know what an indictment. You know, it's not her deal, her movie.
[04:27]
Progressive Political Commentator
By the way, first of all, 100% chance, 100%, 10% chance that they are not calling each other and saying, oh, darling, oh, darling, darling, oh, darling. I was invited. And Melania is like, oh, darling. Donald, you are unifier. Why they, why they indict you, Donald, she's probably like you. Another, another thing here. The reason other presidents have not been indicted is because they are not criminals. This whole thing is new. You being a convicted felon in the American public, falling for this bullshit is very new. And you've had an assist from billionaires, the Supreme Court, a lackluster DOJ under Joe Biden. You didn't do this on your own. You have been assisted and assisted and assisted in your effort to skirt, to skirt responsibility. And it's just such an indictment on all of the administrations prior to this that didn't hold previous administrations to count. Obama, whom I love, came in, he didn't try George Bush on the Abu Ghraib, the CIA black sites. I said, oh, we got to look forward. Those were really egregious human rights violations. And so when you look at what's happening right now, and I don't like criticizing Democrats but in order in this moment, it requires that we be really clear eyed about all of the breadcrumbs that were left in order for this man to stand up there and act like an insane person. To all of lying to all of.
[06:05]
Political Analyst
These Christians and they're just knee slapping. They think it's so cute and funny. And here's the thing, I, because I'm just a complete petty. His that speech went on for an hour and 24 minutes.
[06:20]
Progressive Political Commentator
He will not shut the up.
[06:22]
Political Analyst
Can you, I mean he makes no sense. He's slurring like this. And then here's one thing that just goes all through me on all of the coverage. When I was searching about this prayer breakfast, the headlines were Trump Addresses the National Prayer Break Breakfast. It was very benign, like he had just gone up there, given a few he haws not President Trump slurs, lies and makes no sense as he addresses the National Prayer Breakfast. And I think it goes to the point that you made. No one ever holds him to account, particularly the mainstream media now, which is, you know, in the pocket of all these billionaires if they're not a billionaire.
[07:08]
Progressive Political Commentator
Well, it's the same washing and this has been going on for such a long time. And when we really autopsy this and get super clear eyed, he has been able to get away with, with the assist of so many different people. He couldn't do this alone. He couldn't have ascended to alone. He has had the backup of billionaire friends, a corrupt Supreme Court, a lackluster Biden administration that wasn't serious about prosecuting him, that lollygagged and pussy footed around two years, two years before they appointed a special prosecutor. And it's just insane. And then the media to continue at this point this should be a 911 houses on fire, just this speech. And this is just a normal day in Trump's America. Here he is confirming that right wing MAGA Christians hate Democrats. Play the clip.
[08:05]
Donald Trump
I don't know how a person of faith can vote for a Democrat. I really don't. And I know we have some here today and I don't know why they're here because they certainly don't give us their vote. I certainly know that we're not going to be convincing them to vote for a little thing called voter.
[08:22]
Progressive Political Commentator
I'm going to tell you guys this is good. This is a, this is A history of the National Prayer Breakfast this is where Vladimir Putin was able to enter into Washington D.C. because this group is the most co opted group on the planet. Because they believe in nothing. They fall prey to propaganda like that because this group of people believes in nothing. These are the don't tread on me. These are that we must have the second amendment. This, this prayer break breakfast is the most co opted group of people in the world. This cult, this crazy Christian cult that exists in the United States of America, the ones that I know have been in it have changed their opinions about things 180 degrees. 180 degrees. 180 degrees within one week because he changes his mind. You know this guy's supposed to be a big laissez faire capitalist. His economics have been anything but. He's supposed to be a small government guy. His policies have been huge, huge government. He's supposed to be a decrease the national debt guy. It's increased more than anything. He's supposed to be this rock star with the economy in record time. Usually takes Republicans around four years to tank the economy. He's done it in one the jobs. Right now the job reports are abysmal. The stock market is starting to show people are purging bitcoins and the AI bubble that has been propping up everybody's 401ks is imminently going to pop because the they're not getting a return on their investment. And you have literally I've read into this, there's, I think they're called the magic eight that just trade billions and trillions of dollars to keep the stock market afloat. And eventually it's going to come raining hellfire down on all these little Christians that like to get on their apps and look at their 401ks and I don't know if that will change their opinion then. And I'm done honestly trying to change their opinion. And I think the democr that take a position if we need to learn how to talk to conservatives, we need to learn how to talk to moderates. No, you need to learn how to beat them. That needs to be your mantra. How do we beat these morally depraved people? I don't want to talk to people that triple trumped. They're going to have to bathe in the mess that they made. My vote happens to be so comprehensive that I want an economy that's fair for them, that I want them to be able to access health care if their daughters are raped. I want that choice of what the daughter chooses to do with Such a horrible situation. I want that daughter to have that choice. All these little Christians there at the prayer breakfast, if they have a gay kid or a trans kid, I'm fighting for their kids right now. And so that's about as far as I can go with them. So instead of learning how to talk to them, let's take an economic populist message to everybody and say, look, we don't know how to bridge the divide with somebody who triple trumped and start talking to your base. Because if our base turned out, we win every election. That's why they want to make it so difficult to vote, because the data clearly shows the higher the turnout rate, the more Democrats win. Because the Democratic policies are more inclusive.
[11:41]
Political Analyst
No, I think you're absolutely right on that. And I, I just want to add to what you said that I get so tired of. Any time there is gun violence or any type of sh. Shooting, it's always we need to bring down the rhetoric. Rhetoric. Tom, Home and the borders are, you know, I knew with this kind of talk that this was going to happen. And so they're always saying, tone down the rhetoric. We need to be unified. This man, he loves dividing people. He goes to a prayer breakfast and sticks the knife in people when he wishes people a happy, like Merry Christmas or Happy Easter. He radical left scumbag. You know, all these things that he does, the rhetoric starts with him and it emboldens everybody else. And here's the thing. I don't think that rhetoric is what is killing people in the streets. I think that's guns. But that's what they're. They always go back to. They have to tone down the rhetoric. And I listen to him talk, and I think. And Milani gets up there on Fox News and with the straight face, she's like, he's a unifier. I'm like, bullshit. This is the most polarizing man. And he likes it. He likes for people to hate him because in his mind it's. And it's just, I get so tired of the same old mantra from them. I get so tired of no accountability. It's just unbelievable that we're in this position. And I agree with you. I don't give a fuck about bringing somebody over. What we need to do is beat them. I think that's the exact thing we need to do.
[13:19]
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[15:06]
Donald Trump
You know, I never get a fair break from the fake news, which is back there. That's a lot of fake news because last time I was having a lot of fun. We had a big graduation, 60,000 people. And I'm talking about the fact that I will never make it to heaven. I will never, ever. And I was being funny. I was trying to be, you know, you can't be sarcastic with them because. Because they write your words and they don't. The people are reading. The words are much different than. But I say I'm never going to make it to heaven. I just don't think I qualify. I don't think there's a thing I can do. But all of these good things I'm doing, including for religion. You know, religion's back now, hotter than ever before. They have to.
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Progressive Political Commentator
Okay, listen up. Do you see how he talks about religion like it's a commodity, Right? It's a transaction. Like, this is why I fundamentally feel the Democrats Fool's errand. Kamala Harris's fool's errand and trotting around with Liz Cheney. And I voted for Kamala Harris and I campaigned for her. And I would crawl through concrete to vote for a moderate Democrat that I fundamentally disagree with over one of these MAGA people. But when you decide that you're Going to go after an electorate that sits and listens to this and doesn't think, crazy person. He's patronizing us, he's diminishing our faith. And they don't pick up on that. I don't know that they're going to pick up on whatever message you have. And I think the messaging from Democrats has got to be one of economic populism and universal human rights. Because you're going to see as the midterms come up, you're going to see a lot of Democrats very, very quickly pick up trans people and throw them under the bus as quickly as they can. Because some consulting group has done some poll and they've crowdsourced it and they're going to guide a lot of these politicians to move to the center. My argument about this is the center is where we lose when we don't believe in anything, when we're playing pick me politics. And I think if there are people in the margins that will float over, which we know that happens. Zoran Mamdani, one out of 10 of his voters were triple Trumpers. One out of 10, 10%. And I think what they liked about him is he had conviction. He had conviction. So when you're trying to do a word salad answer as a politician or you start placating into right wing talking points, you don't differentiate yourself enough from a corporate politician, whether they be a corporate Democrat or corporate Republican, to stand out. Zorn Mamdani said, look, I'm standing up to these billionaires. I'm not taking their money. They want to label me as this, you know, scary anti Semite while using Islamophobia to do it. And I am going to stay laser focused on how I can make New York City affordable for everyone. And if you're a trans person, that includes you too, because I'm not a dick. He didn't say it like that. He has a lot more class than I do. But the Democrats are going, you're going to see two different factions that arise here. And I'm already seeing it. I saw an interview with Josh Shapiro that I'll do an episode on that was incredibly disturbing to me. We've seen Gavin Newsom buckle on taxing billionaires, buckle on AIPAC and bend the knee to Josh Shapiro. And we're going to see a lot of these corporate Democrats where in their Venn diagram, they overlap more with MAGA than they do the people. And so a lot of people will say, jennifer, you're too hard on Democrats. And there's a distinction that I must draw. I'm very hard on corporate Democrats because those are the people that lost in 2016 and were ignored. They ignored the progressive Democrats, the Bernie Sanders wing of the party. And in 2024, these were centrist corporate Democratic policies. And so when people in rural America or flyover America say, I don't know what the difference is, the two parties, I used to be somewhat offended by that because I'm like, oh my God, like in a red state, it means, you know, abortion rights, gay rights, keeping ten Commandments and Bibles out of school. But if you're a working class person, they're exactly right. There isn't that much of a difference because these corporate politicians prop up corporations and lie. Both parties lie to the, to the public. Now I will say this. Democratic politicians when they're elected are far better mitigating factors for harm reduction. There's no question about that. And I acknowledge that the harm reduction mitigating factors of a Kamala Harris, of a Hillary Clinton. For people that are incredibly marginalized in really abusive, poverty ridden states like Oklahoma, like Alabama, like West Virginia, these politicians do so much harm. But at the same time, we now realize they've incubated these pick me policies have incubated, unleashed an unsatiable corporate thirst, and they have incubated fascism as a vacuum to fill said insatiable thirst for corporate greed. All right, that's all we have. Like, subscribe, comment. We'll be back later with more news. It.

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Episode: Trump Mocks Christians at Prayer Breakfast and Bullies Mike Johnson
Date: February 5, 2026
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan

Episode Overview

In this episode, Jennifer Welch and Angie Sullivan (aka “Pumps”) dissect Donald Trump’s appearance at the National Prayer Breakfast, focusing on his mockery of Christianity, his treatment of Speaker Mike Johnson, and the lack of accountability from the media and political institutions. Using their signature comedic, irreverent style, the hosts tackle political hypocrisy, evangelical cultism, and the Democrats' response to the growing threat of right-wing populism.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump’s Mockery at the National Prayer Breakfast

Hosts draw attention to Donald Trump’s increasingly bizarre and mocking behavior at the Prayer Breakfast, especially towards Speaker Mike Johnson and the evangelical audience.
There's frustration at the mainstream media's benign coverage despite Trump’s erratic, slurred, and often offensive rhetoric.

Quote (Jennifer, 00:05):
“The United States... has a president that is in the epicenter of a child sex trafficking ring and... every single day he gets in front of the camera and he is a raving lunatic. I mean, his mental illness is on full display... The unblended makeup on full display. And the press just rolls along with it.”

2. Trump and Mike Johnson: Patronizing and Power Dynamics

Segment (01:14–02:02):

Trump jokingly recounts his refusal to pray with Mike Johnson, exposing religious insincerity and condescension.
Jennifer and Angie point out that Johnson is both oblivious to and accepting of Trump’s humiliations.

Quote (Trump, 01:14):
“Mike Johnson’s a very religious person... he’ll say to me sometimes at lunch, ‘sir, may we pray?’ Say, excuse me, we’re having lunch, it’s okay with me... I hang around with him because I feel I’m protected a little bit.”

Analysis (Jennifer, 02:02):
“He says he talks about his religion all the time. Little Grinder. I don’t think he even knows that he is being patronized.”

Analysis (Angie, 02:27):
“If he did know, he wouldn’t give a shit because Trump humiliates him on a daily basis... Mike Johnson might as well not even be in Congress because he just is a rubber stamp for Donald Trump.”

3. Trump’s Open Bragging About Crime and Zero Accountability

Segment (03:41–04:26):

Trump boastfully recounts repeatedly telling Melania about his indictments, joking about their frequency.
The hosts condemn not only Trump’s crimes but the wider system that has enabled him, including past Democratic administrations and the media.

Quote (Trump, 03:41):
“I got indicted so much, I got tired of calling my wife. I’d say, darling, I was just indicted again. She said, oh, darling. What, oh, what does that mean?... She’s not into the world of indictments.”

Analysis (Jennifer, 04:26):
“The reason other presidents have not been indicted is because they are not criminals. This whole thing is new. You being a convicted felon in the American public, falling for this bullshit is very new... You have been assisted and assisted and assisted in your effort to skirt responsibility.”

4. Media Complicity and Washing

Segment (06:22–07:07):

Mass media’s failure is a persistent theme. The hosts lament how even outrageous presidential behavior is normalized in bland headlines and coverage.

Quote (Angie, 06:22):
“The headlines were ‘Trump addresses the National Prayer Breakfast.’ It was very benign... not ‘President Trump slurs, lies and makes no sense.’... The mainstream media... is in the pocket of all these billionaires.”

5. The Cult of Evangelicals and Policy Hypocrisy

Segment (08:05–11:41):

Hosts criticize the evangelical right as a malleable, cult-like base for Trump, regardless of his contradictions and aberrant policies.
Economic mismanagement and the looming threat to ordinary Americans’ finances are highlighted, linking the political cult to real-world consequences.
Jennifer argues for Democrats to focus on base mobilization and economic populism, not “reaching across the aisle.”

Quote (Trump, 08:05):
“I don’t know how a person of faith can vote for a Democrat. I really don’t. And I know we have some here today and I don’t know why they’re here because they certainly don’t give us their vote.”

Analysis (Jennifer, 08:21):
“This prayer breakfast is the most co-opted group of people in the world. This cult, this crazy Christian cult... These are the people who change their opinions 180 degrees within one week because he changes his mind.”

Quote (Jennifer, 11:19):
“No, you need to learn how to beat them. That needs to be your mantra. How do we beat these morally depraved people?”

6. Tone-Policing, Rhetoric, and the Illusion of Unity

Segment (11:41–13:19):

Trump thrives on division, and hosts point out the hollowness of Republican calls for “unity” following tragedies.
Reject the argument that rhetoric is the main danger—it's harmful policies and lack of gun control.

Quote (Angie, 11:41):
“He loves dividing people. He goes to a prayer breakfast and sticks the knife in people... When he wishes people a happy, like Merry Christmas or Happy Easter, he [calls you a] radical left scumbag.”

7. Transactional Religion and Failed Democratic Strategies

Segment (15:05–16:44):

Trump treats religion as a commodity, framing it as transactional rather than spiritual.
Democrats criticized for centrist, “pick-me” politics and failing to stand for clear, progressive principles.

Quote (Trump, 15:05):
“I was having a lot of fun... I will never make it to heaven. I will never, ever. And I was being funny... I just don’t think I qualify... But all of these good things I’m doing, including for religion. You know, religion’s back now, hotter than ever.”

Analysis (Jennifer, 15:45):
“He talks about religion like it’s a commodity, right? It’s a transaction... When you decide that you’re going to go after an electorate that sits and listens to this and doesn’t think, ‘crazy person, he’s patronizing us,’... I don’t know they’re going to pick up on whatever message you have.”

8. Progressive Populism vs. Corporate Democrats

Segment (16:44–end):

Jennifer encourages Democrats to stake out bold progressive positions, rather than appeasing MAGA voters or corporate interests.
Strong distinction drawn between harm-reduction Democrats and those whose corporate centrism incubates fascism.

Quote (Jennifer, 16:44):
“There’s a distinction that I must draw. I’m very hard on corporate Democrats because those are the people that lost in 2016 and were ignored. They ignored the progressive Democrats, the Bernie Sanders wing of the party... Democratic politicians when they’re elected are far better mitigating factors for harm reduction... But these pick-me policies have incubated, unleashed an unsatiable corporate thirst, and they have incubated fascism as a vacuum to fill said insatiable thirst for corporate greed.”

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Trump’s Prayer Breakfast performance:
“He will not shut the up.” (Jennifer, 06:20)
“His speech went on for an hour and 24 minutes.” (Angie, 06:06)
On Mike Johnson:
“He has his lips just plastered to Trump’s ass.” (Angie, 02:27)
On media complicity:
“At this point this should be a 911 houses on fire, just this speech. And this is just a normal day in Trump’s America.” (Jennifer, 07:07)
On Democratic messaging:
“I want an economy that’s fair for them... I want them to be able to access health care if their daughters are raped... if they have a gay kid or a trans kid, I’m fighting for their kids right now.” (Jennifer, 11:26)
On the need for clarity in politics:
“If there are people in the margins that will float over, which we know that happens... what they liked [about Zoran Mamdani] is he had conviction. He had conviction.” (Jennifer, 16:19)

Timestamps of Key Segments

[00:05] – Introduction: Trump’s behavior and evangelical support
[01:14] – Trump’s comments about Mike Johnson at the Prayer Breakfast
[02:02] – Analysis on Trump patronizing and “bullying” Mike Johnson
[03:41] – Trump brags about indictments and calls with Melania
[04:26] – Structural enablers: media, past administrations, institutions
[06:22] – Rant about media complicity and the normalization of chaos
[08:05] – Trump openly dismisses faith in Democrats
[08:21] – Critique of the prayer breakfast and evangelical cultism
[11:41] – Rhetoric vs. policies: the problem with “unity”
[15:05] – Trump’s transactional religion and Democrats’ flawed approach
[16:44] – Call for bold progressive policies over corporate centrism

Episode Takeaway

Welch and Sullivan use biting humor to criticize Trump’s hypocrisy and the fecklessness of his enablers—not just the evangelical right, but also corporate Democrats and the mainstream press. Their core message: The only way to counteract America’s political decline is for progressives to stand firm in their convictions, mobilize their base, and stop playing to the codependent center.

“If our base turned out, we win every election. That’s why they want to make it so difficult to vote, because the data clearly shows the higher the turnout rate, the more Democrats win.” (Jennifer, 11:24)

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[00:00]
Donald Trump
Foreign.
[00:05]
Progressive Political Commentator
The United States of America has a president that is in the epicenter of a child sex trafficking ring and it gets this spotted news coverage. But more than anything, every single day he gets in front of the camera and he is a raving lunatic. I mean, his mental illness is on full display. His dementia is on full display. His personality disorders are on full display. The unblended makeup on full display. And the press just rolls along with it. Today we had the National Prayer Breakfast. And for those international listeners that want to know, why is this man not held accountable? And I'm going to tell you, it's because not all Christians in the United States, but a very organized cult, White Christian evangelicals support this man to the tune of 80 to 90%. And they allow him to do whatever he wants with impunity. They all go, they all claim they're pro children, pro life, pro family. They all go to the National Prayer Breakfast. And here he is talking about he won't even pray with little Moses. Mike Grindr Johnson, play the clip.
[01:14]
Donald Trump
In 2025 more copies of the Holy Bible were sold in the United States than at any time in the last 100 years. Now how about that? How about that? Did you know that Mr. Speake, Mike Johnson's a very religious person and he does not hide it. He'll say to me sometimes at lunch, sir, may we pray? Say, excuse me, we're having lunch, it's okay with me. But he's a very religious person and he is popular and he's doing an unbelievable job. So I think God is watching over you. God is watching over him. I don't know about me. So I hang around with him because I feel I'm protected a little bit.
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Progressive Political Commentator
Do you, do you think pumps that little Moses? Mike Grinder gets what an insult that was to him. He gets that. He says, ask me if we want to pray, pray, we're having lunch. And then he's a very religious man. Like he absolutely cannot relate to it. He says he talks about his religion all the time. Little Grindr. I don't think he even knows that he is being patronized.
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Political Analyst
He doesn't know. And here's the thing. If he did know, he wouldn't give a shit because Trump humiliates him on a daily basis with all the ass kissing and all the protections and just hate. I mean, Mike Johnson might as well not even be in Congress because he just is a rubber stamp for Donald Trump, period. So even if he did know, I don't think he would give a shit because he has his lips just plastered to Trump's ass. And I just have to say, did you see the makeup line? It's.
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Progressive Political Commentator
I did. And then just the marbles in the mouth, the slurred speech. He sounds like he's a famous teetotaler, but he sounds intoxicated. And, you know, he does this stuff. In any other country, if a president acted like this, and then we saw it in the United States and we had a normal president, we'd be like, God, that's crazy. Why don't they impeach him? That's nuts. But all of this stuff is going on here. You know, all of these other countries, accountability for involvement in Jeffrey Epstein, accountability in trying to cite a violent insurrectionist. Brazil held Bolsonaro accountable. Here it's just like, keep going, buddy. Here he is talking about bragging to Melania about his many crimes at the Christian Prayer Breakfast. Play the clip.
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Donald Trump
I got MPs, I got indicted, wiped them out. There's never been, you know, there's never been, to the best of our knowledge, any politician that's ever been indicted who won an election. Very popular politicians got indicted, they lost. I got indicted so much, I got tired of calling my wife. I'd say, darling, I was just indicted again. She said, oh, darling. What, oh, what does that mean? You know, she's very elegant. You saw that from the movie. She's not into the world of indictments. It's not Melania now. She doesn't know what an indictment. You know, it's not her deal, her movie.
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Progressive Political Commentator
By the way, first of all, 100% chance, 100%, 10% chance that they are not calling each other and saying, oh, darling, oh, darling, darling, oh, darling. I was invited. And Melania is like, oh, darling. Donald, you are unifier. Why they, why they indict you, Donald, she's probably like you. Another, another thing here. The reason other presidents have not been indicted is because they are not criminals. This whole thing is new. You being a convicted felon in the American public, falling for this bullshit is very new. And you've had an assist from billionaires, the Supreme Court, a lackluster DOJ under Joe Biden. You didn't do this on your own. You have been assisted and assisted and assisted in your effort to skirt, to skirt responsibility. And it's just such an indictment on all of the administrations prior to this that didn't hold previous administrations to count. Obama, whom I love, came in, he didn't try George Bush on the Abu Ghraib, the CIA black sites. I said, oh, we got to look forward. Those were really egregious human rights violations. And so when you look at what's happening right now, and I don't like criticizing Democrats but in order in this moment, it requires that we be really clear eyed about all of the breadcrumbs that were left in order for this man to stand up there and act like an insane person. To all of lying to all of.
[06:05]
Political Analyst
These Christians and they're just knee slapping. They think it's so cute and funny. And here's the thing, I, because I'm just a complete petty. His that speech went on for an hour and 24 minutes.
[06:20]
Progressive Political Commentator
He will not shut the up.
[06:22]
Political Analyst
Can you, I mean he makes no sense. He's slurring like this. And then here's one thing that just goes all through me on all of the coverage. When I was searching about this prayer breakfast, the headlines were Trump Addresses the National Prayer Break Breakfast. It was very benign, like he had just gone up there, given a few he haws not President Trump slurs, lies and makes no sense as he addresses the National Prayer Breakfast. And I think it goes to the point that you made. No one ever holds him to account, particularly the mainstream media now, which is, you know, in the pocket of all these billionaires if they're not a billionaire.
[07:08]
Progressive Political Commentator
Well, it's the same washing and this has been going on for such a long time. And when we really autopsy this and get super clear eyed, he has been able to get away with, with the assist of so many different people. He couldn't do this alone. He couldn't have ascended to alone. He has had the backup of billionaire friends, a corrupt Supreme Court, a lackluster Biden administration that wasn't serious about prosecuting him, that lollygagged and pussy footed around two years, two years before they appointed a special prosecutor. And it's just insane. And then the media to continue at this point this should be a 911 houses on fire, just this speech. And this is just a normal day in Trump's America. Here he is confirming that right wing MAGA Christians hate Democrats. Play the clip.
[08:05]
Donald Trump
I don't know how a person of faith can vote for a Democrat. I really don't. And I know we have some here today and I don't know why they're here because they certainly don't give us their vote. I certainly know that we're not going to be convincing them to vote for a little thing called voter.
[08:22]
Progressive Political Commentator
I'm going to tell you guys this is good. This is a, this is A history of the National Prayer Breakfast this is where Vladimir Putin was able to enter into Washington D.C. because this group is the most co opted group on the planet. Because they believe in nothing. They fall prey to propaganda like that because this group of people believes in nothing. These are the don't tread on me. These are that we must have the second amendment. This, this prayer break breakfast is the most co opted group of people in the world. This cult, this crazy Christian cult that exists in the United States of America, the ones that I know have been in it have changed their opinions about things 180 degrees. 180 degrees. 180 degrees within one week because he changes his mind. You know this guy's supposed to be a big laissez faire capitalist. His economics have been anything but. He's supposed to be a small government guy. His policies have been huge, huge government. He's supposed to be a decrease the national debt guy. It's increased more than anything. He's supposed to be this rock star with the economy in record time. Usually takes Republicans around four years to tank the economy. He's done it in one the jobs. Right now the job reports are abysmal. The stock market is starting to show people are purging bitcoins and the AI bubble that has been propping up everybody's 401ks is imminently going to pop because the they're not getting a return on their investment. And you have literally I've read into this, there's, I think they're called the magic eight that just trade billions and trillions of dollars to keep the stock market afloat. And eventually it's going to come raining hellfire down on all these little Christians that like to get on their apps and look at their 401ks and I don't know if that will change their opinion then. And I'm done honestly trying to change their opinion. And I think the democr that take a position if we need to learn how to talk to conservatives, we need to learn how to talk to moderates. No, you need to learn how to beat them. That needs to be your mantra. How do we beat these morally depraved people? I don't want to talk to people that triple trumped. They're going to have to bathe in the mess that they made. My vote happens to be so comprehensive that I want an economy that's fair for them, that I want them to be able to access health care if their daughters are raped. I want that choice of what the daughter chooses to do with Such a horrible situation. I want that daughter to have that choice. All these little Christians there at the prayer breakfast, if they have a gay kid or a trans kid, I'm fighting for their kids right now. And so that's about as far as I can go with them. So instead of learning how to talk to them, let's take an economic populist message to everybody and say, look, we don't know how to bridge the divide with somebody who triple trumped and start talking to your base. Because if our base turned out, we win every election. That's why they want to make it so difficult to vote, because the data clearly shows the higher the turnout rate, the more Democrats win. Because the Democratic policies are more inclusive.
[11:41]
Political Analyst
No, I think you're absolutely right on that. And I, I just want to add to what you said that I get so tired of. Any time there is gun violence or any type of sh. Shooting, it's always we need to bring down the rhetoric. Rhetoric. Tom, Home and the borders are, you know, I knew with this kind of talk that this was going to happen. And so they're always saying, tone down the rhetoric. We need to be unified. This man, he loves dividing people. He goes to a prayer breakfast and sticks the knife in people when he wishes people a happy, like Merry Christmas or Happy Easter. He radical left scumbag. You know, all these things that he does, the rhetoric starts with him and it emboldens everybody else. And here's the thing. I don't think that rhetoric is what is killing people in the streets. I think that's guns. But that's what they're. They always go back to. They have to tone down the rhetoric. And I listen to him talk, and I think. And Milani gets up there on Fox News and with the straight face, she's like, he's a unifier. I'm like, bullshit. This is the most polarizing man. And he likes it. He likes for people to hate him because in his mind it's. And it's just, I get so tired of the same old mantra from them. I get so tired of no accountability. It's just unbelievable that we're in this position. And I agree with you. I don't give a fuck about bringing somebody over. What we need to do is beat them. I think that's the exact thing we need to do.
[13:19]
Progressive Political Commentator
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[15:06]
Donald Trump
You know, I never get a fair break from the fake news, which is back there. That's a lot of fake news because last time I was having a lot of fun. We had a big graduation, 60,000 people. And I'm talking about the fact that I will never make it to heaven. I will never, ever. And I was being funny. I was trying to be, you know, you can't be sarcastic with them because. Because they write your words and they don't. The people are reading. The words are much different than. But I say I'm never going to make it to heaven. I just don't think I qualify. I don't think there's a thing I can do. But all of these good things I'm doing, including for religion. You know, religion's back now, hotter than ever before. They have to.
[15:45]
Progressive Political Commentator
Okay, listen up. Do you see how he talks about religion like it's a commodity, Right? It's a transaction. Like, this is why I fundamentally feel the Democrats Fool's errand. Kamala Harris's fool's errand and trotting around with Liz Cheney. And I voted for Kamala Harris and I campaigned for her. And I would crawl through concrete to vote for a moderate Democrat that I fundamentally disagree with over one of these MAGA people. But when you decide that you're Going to go after an electorate that sits and listens to this and doesn't think, crazy person. He's patronizing us, he's diminishing our faith. And they don't pick up on that. I don't know that they're going to pick up on whatever message you have. And I think the messaging from Democrats has got to be one of economic populism and universal human rights. Because you're going to see as the midterms come up, you're going to see a lot of Democrats very, very quickly pick up trans people and throw them under the bus as quickly as they can. Because some consulting group has done some poll and they've crowdsourced it and they're going to guide a lot of these politicians to move to the center. My argument about this is the center is where we lose when we don't believe in anything, when we're playing pick me politics. And I think if there are people in the margins that will float over, which we know that happens. Zoran Mamdani, one out of 10 of his voters were triple Trumpers. One out of 10, 10%. And I think what they liked about him is he had conviction. He had conviction. So when you're trying to do a word salad answer as a politician or you start placating into right wing talking points, you don't differentiate yourself enough from a corporate politician, whether they be a corporate Democrat or corporate Republican, to stand out. Zorn Mamdani said, look, I'm standing up to these billionaires. I'm not taking their money. They want to label me as this, you know, scary anti Semite while using Islamophobia to do it. And I am going to stay laser focused on how I can make New York City affordable for everyone. And if you're a trans person, that includes you too, because I'm not a dick. He didn't say it like that. He has a lot more class than I do. But the Democrats are going, you're going to see two different factions that arise here. And I'm already seeing it. I saw an interview with Josh Shapiro that I'll do an episode on that was incredibly disturbing to me. We've seen Gavin Newsom buckle on taxing billionaires, buckle on AIPAC and bend the knee to Josh Shapiro. And we're going to see a lot of these corporate Democrats where in their Venn diagram, they overlap more with MAGA than they do the people. And so a lot of people will say, jennifer, you're too hard on Democrats. And there's a distinction that I must draw. I'm very hard on corporate Democrats because those are the people that lost in 2016 and were ignored. They ignored the progressive Democrats, the Bernie Sanders wing of the party. And in 2024, these were centrist corporate Democratic policies. And so when people in rural America or flyover America say, I don't know what the difference is, the two parties, I used to be somewhat offended by that because I'm like, oh my God, like in a red state, it means, you know, abortion rights, gay rights, keeping ten Commandments and Bibles out of school. But if you're a working class person, they're exactly right. There isn't that much of a difference because these corporate politicians prop up corporations and lie. Both parties lie to the, to the public. Now I will say this. Democratic politicians when they're elected are far better mitigating factors for harm reduction. There's no question about that. And I acknowledge that the harm reduction mitigating factors of a Kamala Harris, of a Hillary Clinton. For people that are incredibly marginalized in really abusive, poverty ridden states like Oklahoma, like Alabama, like West Virginia, these politicians do so much harm. But at the same time, we now realize they've incubated these pick me policies have incubated, unleashed an unsatiable corporate thirst, and they have incubated fascism as a vacuum to fill said insatiable thirst for corporate greed. All right, that's all we have. Like, subscribe, comment. We'll be back later with more news. It.