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Experian. All right, we have some breaking news coming out of Oklahoma of all places. You all know we have that completely psychotic, gay porn obsessed superintendent maga. Christ, Trump ass kisser. To me, my gaydar goes way off every time I hear the man speak. Ryan Walters, he has announced on Fox News he's going to resign as the superintendent of school. Which he did a bang up job. We went, we're ranked 50th, right? In education. He goes on Fox News and now he has, he's forming some new business or joining some new company to crush teacher teachers unions. Listen to this DL Demon Queen on.
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Fox News last night, Oklahoma State Superintendent Ryan Walters. It was kind of a swipe at you Superintendent Walters there. But it's interesting because you've got a little bit of breaking news for us and some big news coming out of Oklahoma. Tell us what's going on in your state and with you, sir. Yes, sir. I'm excited to announce I'll be stepping down as Oklahoma State superintendent and taking on the role as the CEO of the Teacher Freedom Alliance. We're going to destroy the teachers unions. We have seen the teachers unions use money and power to corrupt our schools, to undermine our schools. We are one of the biggest grassroots organizations in the country. We will build an army.
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This guy has used propaganda and low hanging fruit to completely erode the Oklahoma school system. Ranked 50th, dead last in the state. This guy is a failure. This guy is obsessed with porn. This guy is obsessed with trans people. This guy is obsessed with gay people in my opinion. Opinion. If you talk about something you think you're not all the time. For me, I've always found out that person actually is that, oh, it's the.
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Biggest hell on the planet. And you know what? I say good, good, goodbye, good riddance. Because you have taken the education in Oklahoma and you have stomped it down to where it is the lowest. The lowest. Because you're more worried about kissing Trump's ass and buying Trump bibles than you are about educating students. So this is a win for Oklahoma.
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Yeah. And tweet that he put out yesterday. Big News tonight on @ FOX NEWS with Trace Gallagher. Liberals worst nightmare is about to become true. Tune in at Fox News Night. Here's a point I want to make about this magus whole entire political agenda is owning the libs and or destroying the libs and. Or incarcerating the libs and or removing civil liberties from the libs. None of this helps rural Americans. None of this is going to help you with child care. None of this is going to help with inflation. These are broken people. Emotionally stunted people who, instead of fixing themselves, want to destroy the very people, Ryan, that would embrace you if you had the courage to do the work, to come out and be the person that you're supposed to be, we would embrace you, we would forgive you, we would fight for your civil liberties. And you want to destroy it because you think that's going to ungay you. You think that's gonna make you less obsessed with porn, and it won't. You're broken. And you want to break everything else with you. And so I want to let you all in on a little, like, behind the scenes type thing that happens with. I've had it. Sometimes we record episodes that are called evergreens, meaning, like, it's not the current news of the day. And then we can put those out on the weekend so Pumps and I can enjoy some leisurely time with our French bulldogs. And yesterday we recorded an episode about Ryan Walters that we were going to drop this weekend. And of course, right after we dropped it, this breaking news comes out. But. But what you're about to see is still so relevant and so important that you stay tuned in My hair's in a ponytail today. Yesterday it wasn't. We're in different clothes. But you've got to keep going down this rabbit hole about this demon queen that now wants to attack teachers unions. Teachers make what, pumps? 35 grand? 40 grand.
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Yeah.
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And he wants the very people that will teach children. He wants to demean them. This guy is an evil DL demon queen. So continue watching MAGA politicians and MAGA Christians are liars. They go to rural communities and suburban communities and tell people the reason they can't have nice things is because of all of these dangerous gangs of LGBTQIA plus people that are running around beating people up with flags. Oh, wait, the flag beaters in January 6th. That's right. But you can look no further than states that have MAGA super majorities to see how terrible their policies are. And I mean terrible. I can report from Oklahoma City, where we're sitting right now, that our state 16 years ago had a Democratic governor named Brad Henry. Our education was ranked 14 to 16 depending on which ranking you looked at. Since then we had a two term dipshit psycho governor named Mary Fallon who eroded education funding. And after that we had Governor Dip Kevin Stitt, fake Christian lying liar extraordinaire who has completely eroded all education. We went from 14th to 16th to 50th, dead last in the United States of America. You would think that politicians and its citizenry would say enough is enough. Our kids deserve better. Not in Oklahoma, not MAGA super majorities. They elect a complete psycho. And in my opinion, closet homosexual named Ryan Walters. And Pumps has been digging around and he's been up to a lot of fuckery lately.
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Ryan Walters said this yesterday. First of all, he is a huge Charlie Kirk lover. But this is his announcement yesterday and he's so proud of it.
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Excited to announce today that every Oklahoma high school will have a Turning Point USA chapter. We have seen the outpouring from parents, teachers and students that want to be engaged in a meaningful work going on at Turning Point.
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So I'm wondering, at these clubs, do you think they're going to talk about his, his views about women that they should submit, they should go to college to get an Mrs. Degree? Do you think they're going to talk about his views on racism and white supremacy and the Civil Rights act being a mistake? Do you think those are going to come up at these Turning Point clubs?
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Yes, I do, Angie. And they are going to be presented in the same exact way that Charlie Kirk presented them. They will be normalized and mainstreamed and indoctrinated into these kids that join this club. And it's going to create more hate, more racism, more sexism, more homophobia, less tolerance, less empathy because these people are broken. People that find themselves in Turning Point clubs have been abused by their religion. They are suffering from religious abuse and misery. Loves company. You can either go off and heal like you had to and deconstruct your faith and realize, oh my gosh, I'm a victim of severe religious abuse and do the hard work or you can join the other broken people. And I hope, because he will do this and this will pass in Oklahoma, you guys, this will happen. I hope that some smart teachers also have a club where people can go deal with religious abuse. Because I went to these public schools in Oklahoma and I have to tell you, my friends, my peers that I went to school with were terrified all the time that demons were following them around and they were fighting spiritual warfare and it's not that far Off. Look at way everybody was acting at Charlie Kirk's funeral and all the language they use. These people think they're fighting spiritual warfare where angels and demons are fighting around them at all times. It's crazy. It's a cult. And we have a United States senator from this shitty education system in Senate hearings. Pumps that, ask some medical doctor, when was you fired?
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Yeah, grammar's not a big sticking point in Oklahoma public schools. And you say that about the teachers. Are there going to be teachers that come out against this and say, these are real, these are the values Charlie Kirk pushed? And you know, how can we not both sides that. How can we not show what he said and then what he actually.
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Not in this state, Pumps.
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Not in this state. But guess what? But Ryan Walters has a system where if teachers say anything that might be considered offensive about Charlie Kirk or all this indoctrination, he set up a tip line. So he sends out this email to teachers and parents about Charlie Kirk being a true warrior impacting young people. And to that end, he tells parents and teachers, if you hear anything that can endanger your child or that learning environment, please report it through our awardy software. So this is basically if a teacher gets out of line, if a teacher actually says the truth and doesn't go with the indoctrinated thought police that is Ryan Walters, then other teachers are supposed to rat them out. So do you know what that reminds me of? When I first read this, I thought, that's Scientology, that's Mormonism, where you rat out the other people. And that keeps people in line. That makes teachers too scared to stand up for truth because we've got the thought police with a snitch line. And you talk about free speech. Really?
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This is forced speech. And that's what Republicans want. That's what MAGA wants. They want forced speech, and they want to put that on our most vulnerable. Kids that should not be worried about this stuff. Kids that should be worrying, worried about facts and empathy and care. But this same movement has also branded empathy a toxic trait. We are in a very dangerous period here, and Oklahoma has always been for me, living here, I've always thought, God, this is fucked up. I'm so glad the rest of the country isn't like this. I'm so grateful that people on the coast and in other states are not this crazy. To see the tongue talking going on at the White House, to see the praise, to see Caroline Levitt and all those women with the crosses, to see what has always been to me, so alarming. Living around such hateful Christians. And I'm not talking about you viewers that are Christian light. You know who I'm talking about. Seeing these people become mainstreamed in the federal government is so incredibly terrifying. It is absolutely terrifying. And this is such a bad idea. It's so horrible. And there's already so much pressure in suburban public schools in the United States of America for this Christian stuff, Fellowship of Christian athletes and this Christian thing and that Christian thing, and pray at the flagpole. Because at the core of evangelical Christianity is this really toxic thing where they have to recruit and proselyze everybody around them. And they thought when I grew up that my family and I didn't go to church, that we were their business and that then in turn they had complete right and an absolute divine right to say to me and my family that we were going to burn in hell and that we were terrible people. Think about how toxic that is. And so they have to recruit and recruit and recruit and recruit because their product is so shitty they have to emotionally blackmail you to get in it. Or as Pumps is reporting, they have to indoctrinate at the, at the age of kids and then set up a snitch line for people that are not cooperative because that's how shitty their brand of Christianity is.
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And that is not the first time that Ryan Walters has had a bad idea. So he, you might remember Trump Bibles. He wanted to buy the Trump Bibles. He's got the Ten Commandments in classrooms. He wants public taxpayer dollars to go to Christian schools. This is who this guy is. And the Supreme Court just had to make him take big lie curriculum out of classrooms. So Oklahoma's highest civil court has ordered the state Department of Education to stop implementing controversial new social studies standards that require students to learn about Christianity and debunk claims about election fraud. And COVID 19. I mean, this to me is just stunning. We're going to take Donald Trump's lie that he perpetuated, that he had no evidence for, and we're going to put in classrooms so that we can tell little kids about election fraud, so we can raise little militant white supremacists.
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Here's the deal. At the core of this whole MAGA movement is you have broken people with inner childhood issues or very closeted, suppressed sexual issues. And in the case of Ryan Walters, is my personal opinion, somebody who has been. I have more gay friends than I do straight in my social life. It's my opinion that this guy is a, is a closet case and he grew up in a Very religious household where he was shamed for having these attractions which are perfectly normal, perfectly natural. And I see this with so many of my gay friends. It reminds me when I went to the University of Oklahoma in the early 90s, so many of them had families and peers in churches that shamed them into the closet. And then some of them went to pray the gay away camps. And then they, you know, you look at Lindsey Graham, you look at Mike Johnson, you look at this guy who's constantly talking about this radical gay agenda. Meanwhile, you know, I guarantee you when rubber hits the road, when he's masturbating, I guarantee you he's not thinking about women. I just, I would bet everything on it. So we have these broken people that don't have the bravery or the courage to do the work to become better people. We have emotionally stunted people with inner childhood issues ruining our country right now on a federal level, all the way down to this evil DL demon queen, Ryan Walters.
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And here's the thing, when this came out that he was trying to put all this bullshit in the curriculum, you didn't see a big uprising. Certainly Kevin Stitt didn't come out and say, we're 50th in education. Our US senator cannot speak in proper grammar. I mean, we don't teach grammar. We need to learn math. We need to learn, you know, where a decimal point goes in a problem. We need to learn sentences that are complete.
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But, oh, no, but he's a dipshit too. Have you ever heard him speak? Right. This isn't a big thinker. This isn't a great, you know, a great leader that's going to go down in history, that we're going to quote things that he said. He's, he's from this same cult, this evangelical white nationalist, worship money above all. Then Donald Trump. And then reframe Jesus as not this radical empath, which he was. Reframe him as the guy that likes to worship money and white men. That's right. That's what they do. What I mean, so they're all in this same cult and they all do it. So, of course, I mean, Ryan Walters is a. Kevin Stitt is a. And I mean, I don't get gay vibe from Kevin Stitt, but I do think he's been severely religiously abused his whole life. I do think he's severely religiously abusing his children right now. And I do think that he's religiously abusing our state because he's a broken person that grew up in a very Abusive religion. And we're dealing with all of these people that are, are victims of religious abuse, that have ascended to the highest forms of government, that are branding empathy as toxic, that have completely rebanded, rebranded Jesus, who was a black refugee, as this white supply side capitalist, you know, that likes to, that likes to make a bunch of dipshit white guys a ton of money in with their investment funds. And it's, it's crazy.
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And certainly not help the poor or the sick.
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Well, hell no. And black people, there's instructions for them, you know, how to treat your slave. It's horrible, all of this. This breed of Christianity is a lineage from the same people in the Bible Belt south that use this brand to justify slavery. And it still remains. And sadly, these have gotten power.
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Well, and I don't see anytime soon that Oklahoma is going to write the ship. I really don't. They seem to like it. And okay, just a little parting shot at Ryan Walters. So he sits around and he talks about porn and talks about gay people and he's just, he's so upset. So then there was this big dust up this summer about his office straight porn streaming on his channels, okay? And it says, this is the headline loving Bible thumping superintendent faces porn probe. 2 Oklahoma Board of Education members said Ryan Walters was not apologetic after a video of naked women playing in his office during a state meeting. Here's the thing. None of that surprised me. What surprised me was that it was women porn. I would have bet all of my dogs and my children that he's, he likes gay porn.
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But this, to me, the optics of this, if I were to just form a hypothesis and gossip a little bit right now, as girlfriends do, here's my hypothesis. Pumps this guy, you know, probably like we talked about, masturbating rubber, hits the road, not thinking about tatas, right? Finally, can't take it. He has to, you know, go physically interact with somebody to whom he's greatly attracted to because I don't think it's the female species. And that probably felt so good. He went back for seconds and maybe thirds. And then he's this crazy Christian and oh my God, I'm fighting spiritual warfare. The devil's one, blah, blah. And then it's like, I've got to prove I'm so hetero, right? I've got to prove I'm so masculine, I'm going to make sure people see me watching lesbian, lesbian porn. So he puts up some screenshot of some girls scissoring to try to prove that he's so Straight. And here's the thing. Here's the thing about it, you guys. I've never had to prove that I am heterosexual to anybody. Sometimes our listeners will say, you know, you give power lesbian vibes, because I am kind of, you know, I'm a go getter, and I. To that, I say thank you.
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Right? That's a compliment.
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I very much say thank you for that. I'm not offended by that. I don't think I need to go out and prove my heterosexuality because I think there's a lot of great things about lesbians. And sometimes people say, oh, y' all are our favorite lesbian podcasters. To which pumps. And I say, thank you. Right. Thank you so much.
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A huge compliment.
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Because we know who we are, and it doesn't. It doesn't. I don't feel any need to. To try to have, you know, gay porn on behind me with two men doing something. And so this, to me and my hypothesis, he went and he dipped in the pond, and it felt great.
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He loved it.
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He went back a few times, and then it was like, oh, the devil, you know? And then he's like, I've got it.
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I've got to prove it.
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It's so staged.
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Okay, here's what I wonder. Where was he on Charlie Kirk's the night of Charlie Kirk's memorial? Because we know Grindr had a big hire.
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Did he go there?
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I don't know. What about the Republican National Convention? Did he go?
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I would just say this. Whether he was in Arizona or whether he was in Oklahoma, his mind was in the same place. Okay? His mind was in the exact same place that it always is. In his mind. He would think that's the gutter, right? I don't think it's the gutter. Ryan, I want you to be able to come out, sis. I want you to be able to embrace it and apologize to the gay community and talk about how crazy all this shit that you're doing is. I want you to get treated for being a victim of religious abuse. I want you to stop your reign of terror on children. And I think. I think you would be a great ambassador to talk about how wrong you were and how religion forcing people into the closet makes them absolutely diabolical and mean. And I think you could have a lot of fun. You know, there's nothing more fun than a gay bar are nothing. And I. I could see Ryan out there with glow sticks and a whistle top off, just cutting a rug.
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Yeah, I can see that, too. All right, stick with us for more news like this video. Subscribe to our channel and Jennifer Show.
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