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Unknown Host
Foreigning me today, the very fabulous Brian Tyler Cohen. Brian, thank you for being here today. I saw.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
Thanks so much for having me. I appreciate it.
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Unknown Host
I saw over the weekend you were posting about our state school superintendent Ryan Walters and, and you see Oklahoma's Trump loving bible thumping superintendent faces Porn Pro. 2 Oklahoma Board of Education members said Ryan Walters was not apologetic after a of naked women played in his office during a state meeting. And those were both Republicans that reported this. Here's the thing, the only thing that surprises me about this is it was straight porn because he, I mean he's.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
Or these days, or these days adult porn. You know, with, with all the Epstein stuff going on.
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Unknown Host
Yeah, no, he absolutely is the biggest hypocrite Trump bible. So I loved that. The hypocrisy going on with maga. Have you been seeing a lot of traffic about the free Galane stuff?
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Brian Tyler Cohen
I have. I mean the first indication I got that this was happening was Greg Kelly on Newsmax who floated this idea that she may just very well be the victim in all this. And look, you and I do this every day. It takes a lot to surprise us. That was one of those moments where I'm like, they're actually doing this right now. There are no lengths that they won't go to to cover for Trump. And if that includes running cover for Ghislaine Maxwell who is not only Jeffrey Epstein's like accomplice and assistant trafficker, but like she committed these crimes as well.
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Unknown Host
Right.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
And, and like to frame her as the victim is, is actually pretty in line with how I think about all of like the Maggie universe because this is the victimhood mentality that kind of pervades the whole movement is like to frame Donald Trump as a victim when he is, when he's anything but. I mean he is, he has spent his whole life conning people and he continues to do so now, but still presents himself as the victim. And they can transpose that idea onto anybody. I mean, it does not matter how depraved of a human being you are. And the fact that they're trying it with Maxwell right now is a testament to that.
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Unknown Host
I know, I was shocked. Like I'm with you. It takes a lot to shock me. But the fact that they would now think that Galain Maxwell deserves to be pardoned and all this to cover Trump's ass, all of these hundreds of victims, nobody gives a about them as long as Trump's ass is covered. So I just think it's disgusting. And then he said something this morning that Blew me away.
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Donald Trump
And Bill Clinton went there supposedly 28 times. I never went to the island. But Larry Summers, I hear, went there. He was the head of Harvard and many other people that are very big people, nobody ever talks about them. I never had the privilege of going to his island.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
What, the privilege?
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Unknown Host
What did you. I mean, I'm just like, he is a train wreck. He's off the rails.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
The privilege like this. Imagine, imagine saying that now. Like, we've gone through three and a half weeks of the worst news cycle of Donald Trump's entire life, where most of the country is like, okay, what are your links to this famed notorious pedophile? And the first thing he says three weeks in about this is that he didn't have the privilege of going to this guy's island.
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Unknown Host
It's really unbelievable how many times this has come up and he can't do anything better. I mean, he's a con artist and a grifter at heart. He can't overcome this. And here's something interesting. I always think when he's throwing out Larry Summers from Harvard and Bill Clinton, number one, I have no doubt Bill Clinton was on there. I've known that from jump that he was in on this. I don't have a Trump or, I don't have a Bill Clinton flag or T shirt. And he should be. I mean, you know, if we found out he did committed crimes, he should be punished. Like, I have zero issue with that. But if he never was briefed on the file, how does he know how many times Bill Clinton was at the island is what I want to know.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
Right? I mean, I mean the whole thing is contradictory. Like he just keeps stepping on his own fate. Like the whole time he's just, he's just stepping on his own toes. There is, there is no, it's just whatever errant synapse fires in his brain and he just. And words fall out of his face and that becomes the new position. And then of course, which would be bad enough unto itself, but then you've got all of these other sycophants on the right. You've got the Mike Johnson, Johnson's of the world, the Charlie Kirks of the world who see this and they're like, guess this is my new talking point. Guess I have to go out there and try and defend, defend all this stuff. And, and you know, this is. Now they have to figure out how to explain away the fact that Donald Trump did not have the privilege of going on Epstein's island.
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Unknown Host
Sounds like he was hurt, he wasn't invited to the cool kids club.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
I mean, that literally does sound like that.
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Unknown Host
Yeah, it really does. Okay. I'm glad you brought up Mike Johnson, because when I see the Ryan Walters thing, our state superintendent and Mike Johnson, they're constantly banging about homophobia, porn, all that stuff. And I think to be that cruel and that depraved, there is a repressed gay man in those men. And so the fact that both of them who are, I mean, standing on their Bibles all the time, the Trump.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
Technically, I think with, with Ryan Walters, that is the Trump Bible is in.
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Unknown Host
Fact the Trump Bible. Yes.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
Literally, the Trump bio. He mandated the purchase of those Bibles.
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Unknown Host
Yes. And he put the big lie in our history in Oklahoma. Like, we're never going to get better.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
Wild.
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Unknown Host
Yeah, but at what point do these people, does the hypocrisy fail them or is it just. This is going to be a lifelong thing, the hypocrisy. They're just going to write it, even if they have to crash into a wall.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
Yeah, that, that's, that I think is kind of their superpower. And I, and I say this both, like, derisively, but also, but also admiringly in the sense that how, how do you shame the shameless? I mean, it's really difficult because there was a. Years and years and years ago where you can call out somebody's hypocrisy and that counted for something, like you can shame them into, into, into some having some, you know, integrity, I don't know. But I mean, now we're at the point where you've got people that, you know, presents themselves as the pro life, I'm sorry, the pro family party who, who are, like, lining up behind these ICE raids where they're ripping families apart. You've got these people who present themselves as the States Rights Party where the second row was over. They introduce legislation to ban abortion nationwide. You've got these people who present themselves as fiscal conservatives who five minutes later explode the deficit by $4 trillion. And so how do you shame the shameless? How do you talk to people? How do you get something out of people that say one position and two minutes later vote for something that would, that would completely undermine your own stated position. That's the difficult part because no one's holding them to account on their own side. I mean, you know, again, like, Trump says something and all of a sudden the entire party's North Star just shifts, you know, 10ft to, to the right. And so it's, it becomes really difficult to know how to, to, to, I guess, defeat a party that, that can't be reined in by shame.
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Unknown Host
They're not embarrassed. You know, like I think about Watergate, the reason Nixon resigned is he had so much pressure within his own base. Yeah. And this was Epstein massive cover up, which I might say there are so many massive corruption things that have gone on in Trump's presidency. This is, but the one we're talking about today, his party has enabled him. So I look over the course of the next like 15, 20 years, these people are still going to be around the people that have made excuses and enabled this kind of behavior. And I'm just wondering, like, will young people ever understand that politics is supposed to be about competent people making legislative policy that helps citizens, or is it always going to be a clown car? For now on, yes, the latter.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
It's, I mean, I, I think even, I mean, I think we probably under, I think we under, under. I think we didn't understand the extent to which even years ago, politics was always just kind of about vibes. I think that now we're in a totally different world where the extent to which policy matters is, is just kind of nearing zero. And, and, and a lot of the reasons that I think people support politicians, whether, whether it's Trump or anybody else, is either polarization. Right. Or, or just, I mean, just vibes. Just like, oh, I mean, you know, he's, he said, he said this one thing one time and I like that. And so that's it. You know, I don't think people are like, looking into the intricacies of like, Medicaid policy when they're determining who's going to help them. That's why we often see people vote against their own interests, too. But, but I think, and this is the left and right, both sides rely on, on, on, you know, political affiliation and how closely it adheres to your identity. And it's less about what party is actually going to do what for you, as opposed to, like, this is, this is the tribe I'm in.
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Unknown Host
Right. And with, with this, you know, you have Mike Johnson who was getting on the, you know, floor of the Capitol saying, where, I'm sorry, the floor of Congress saying, oh, we're not cutting Medicaid. And he says it with a straight face. And so people just believe it. And then Fox News echoes. I mean, it's just unbelievable.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
That's, and that's the benefit, by the way, of having a media ecosystem that just won't push back and won't even, you know, expose any lies that you yourself have told. And it allows all these Republicans who largely appear in those, in those silos, those media silos, to be able to say one thing, do the complete opposite. Again, have no shame about it and know that nobody's going to push back. Hannity's not going to come up there and say, well, hold on, you said that you weren't going to cut Medicaid and now 17 million people are going to lose their Medicaid. He's echoing the same thing that they are. The whole thing is a con from top to bottom. But, but again, you've got these, these, these. First of all, our media is completely bifurcated. So you have left and right and no one's going to hear anything from people on the other side. And, and within those ecosystems, I mean you've got, you've got bad actors, you've got Hannity and Laura Ingraham and Judge Jeanine. I mean like these are the people that you have to rely on to be able to push back on these Republicans within that ecosystem where right wing voters actually consume their news. So of course it' and, and, and we're left in a situation where you've got people A, again, voting for, voting against their own interests and B, not even recognizing who is responsible for doing things that are going to have cataclysmic impacts on people. When Americans start to lose health care by the millions, there will be a massive contingent who then believes the subsequent lie, which will be that, which will be that, oh, the Democrats are responsible for it.
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Unknown Host
Right. Joe Biden did it.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
Joe Biden did it. Totally.
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Unknown Host
Oh, one thing I was going to ask you about is Nancy Mace is a case study in just complete unwell.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
Yeah. And with all on the topic of shamelessness.
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Unknown Host
Exactly. And what's so interesting is like you have Stephen Miller who is just depraved and cruel and mean and he likes the torture and he's running the policy. In my opinion, Trump doesn't give a about the policy. He likes the perks, he likes the power, he likes the, you know, the brazenness. But so Nancy Mace, I feel like this is how a lot of these triple Trumpers feel about these immigrants and how they are watching this with glee.
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Nancy Mace
New sheriff in town. I have to tell you, one of my favorite things to watch on YouTube these days are the court hearings where illegals are in court and ICE shows up to drag them out of court and deport them. I can think of nothing more American today than keeping our streets safer by getting those violent Criminals out of the United States of America.
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Unknown Host
I mean, I'm just like, your favorite thing to watch on YouTube is people who are going through the legal process as it is supposed to be followed and being arrested. And then you just throw in their criminals. But we never know. We don't know if they're criminals.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
Yeah. Nancy Mace's only long standing principle is more attention for Nancy Mace. And she knows that if she says outlandish things like that on the Internet, that she gets attention from people in the farthest fringes of the MAGA base and she gets her likes and her clicks and that's all Nancy Mace cares about. Nancy Mace will go wherever the wind blows. She stands for literally nothing again, other than attention for herself. And so she'll say whatever she has to say to get a rise out of people in hopes that people will then talk about it. But that's all Nancy Mace stands for. And so we will continue to see her descend into the depths of depravity. Because so long, long as she can get another eyeball, whether it's making herself the hero or the heel doesn't matter. She just wants people to look at her. She is the worst of politics. She's like the worst of humanity. And she puts that on full display without an ounce of shame.
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Unknown Host
Now I completely agree. And I just, I could sit here and talk about Stephen Miller until my head fell off. Like Terry Moran didn't go far enough with hatred is his spiritual nourishment. I feel like Nancy Mace goes right into that category.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
Yeah. You want to talk about people, hometown, not exactly heroes. Stephen Miller is from Santa Monica, which is, you know, I'm sitting here in Los Angeles right now, and it just, it just chips away at my soul to know that somehow Santa Monica, California churned out somebody like Stephen Miller.
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Unknown Host
Right. It seems like he was made in a lab in Hollywood. Like the Frankenstein character.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
Maybe that, I mean, maybe that's the way you explain away his Los Angeles connection is like, we've, we've created a hell of a lot of villains in this city, and usually they're, usually they're fictional, but every once in a while we get one that's. That's, that's real.
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Unknown Host
Absolutely. And he is the worst, in my opinion, of this whole administration. I mean, and that's a. You get. You have a lot to pick from. Brian Tyler Cohen, thank you so much for joining me today. You can follow Brian. We've got. You're everywhere. YouTube.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
Yeah, YouTube. I mean, all the platforms. My main platform is YouTube. Though.
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Unknown Host
Yes. I watch you on YouTube and I love your social media, too.
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Brian Tyler Cohen
Thank you. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on.
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Unknown Host
We'll see you later. Thank you.