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MAGA men are the most submissive beta males on the planet. The trad wives that worship Donald Trump. And here to discuss this with me is our dark woke warrior and king, Kyle Kalinsky. He is the host of Secular Talk and co host of Crystal Kyle and Friends, Kyle Cassidy. Senator Cassidy reveals his vote on Todd Blanche. Pop this up. Senator Bill Cassidy is a yes on Todd Blanche, all but assuring Trump's former personal attorney will become the next U.S. attorney General. So my question for you, Kyle, is why do MAGA men support pedophilia?
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It's a good question. Because pedocon theory is a theory like gravity is a theory. That's why. I mean, every other day we see a new story about some, some right winger who's diddling kids. But listen, these guys, man, they are, they really are completely and utterly cucked to Donald Trump. I've never seen anything like this in my life. Donald Trump ruined this man's career. He ended his career. And he had a perfect opportunity here to say, you know what? You want to come after me now? I'm going to make your life a living hell. Instead, he cucked himself. Now I'm calling him Bill Cuck City from now on, even though we're only going to know about him for like five more minutes because he's gonzo. He's done by. I mean, could you imagine? I mean, you have. You are so right when you say that. These men are just, they're so servile. We need to invent a new word to describe how servile it is.
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You know, they put on a master class for the trad wife movement. I mean, the trad wife movement needs to look no further than MAGA men and how they service Donald Trump. I have never seen anything like it in my entire life. It is the biggest group of whining, crying titty babies and just how they constantly praise him and they feel no shame should really be studied. But this is an interesting development. Trump is no longer claiming to be America first. Pop this up here. He has, he's rolled out his new logo, so beautiful. DC is better than ever. And then he has this new logo with all of these hideous liberace statues around D.C. in gold. And now we're to only Trump.
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I mean, it's more honest, right? That's honest. I mean, I don't even know how to respond to this because they're sort of taking the mask off now. And I kind of support it. I kind of think it's good because if anything, they're just sending the bat signal out that, like, hey, you know what this is about? They're admitting now that they're a death cult. We've always called the Republican Party a death cult. They're now admitting that they're a death cult. And he really lost his fastball in the sense that he now doesn't even know how to try to make a convincing sounding case because he's been surrounded by the yes men for so long that he really thinks that his farts smell like perfume and that, you know, whatever he vomits out on the day is something that, like, you know, everybody's going to be on board with. But regular people are looking at this. It's like when he said, I don't care about Americans financial situation at all. It's like, you know, you're not supposed to say that part out loud, right? You know, you're not supposed to say, I, we can't handle daycare, we can't handle Medicare and Medicaid because we got a war to fight. You're not supposed to say this stuff. This is the stuff that goes behind closed doors. But he can't help himself now. And I think a big part of that, Jennifer, is his cognitive decline that, you know, he, he went from a low filter guy to a no filter guy. And now, you know, he'll, he'll blurt things out like that.
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Well, I think I say that Trump has moved into his deathbed confession era. And you know, that if you've ever had a relative that is in a nursing home and they're 85 or 90, and you go see him, they're like, you know what? I always liked you more than I did your sister. Something like that, that's where we are right now. So we're finding out that Trump finds men deeply, deeply, deeply attractive. I mean, every time I turn around, he's, you know, this guy's good looking. I want to kiss that guy, that UFC fighter. He's like, you know, like stroking his thigh. And then all of the men surrounding Trump seem to worship him. And so in the deathbed confession era. I think it's a perfect opportunity for the Democrats to really start attacking the faux masculinity/ bisexuality, slcloset hypocrisy/ trad wife mindset of these people and do reputational damage to them the way the Republicans have done to us. Because for a Republican voter in my home state of Oklahoma, they see no daylight between a Hillary Clinton, who is a centrist Democrat, and a Zoran Mamdani. They see zero. They both think they're commie libtards. And I'm just waiting for the attack dogs, which I think ends up kind of being. If I look on X from time to time, which I do, you and me.
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It's amazing, by the way, they are. They're finally starting to pay attention to me. I was the last one. It was you and Hasan. They attack all the time. Finally they started throwing me in there. Okay. I don't think. I think Democrats need to realize this is good. This helps you, because now you do have attack dogs. And we're going to end up running on our strengths now because we don't play defense, you and me. We play offense.
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That's right.
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And that's the trick that the rest of them need to know. You need to flip everything. Like, they call. They've been calling Abdul El Sayed an extremist. And I simply don't want to hear about extremism from a party that's backing a pedophile, rapist, con man, terrorist.
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Exactly like that.
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That's what you guys. All you guys do is warmonger. All you guys do is super serve the Epstein class. And it's about time that that message gets out there. And it's kind of crazy that it took podcasters like you and me to, like, lead the charge and get that word out there, but now it's finally happening.
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I'm with you on playing offense. Like, immediately when they bring up the trans issue, every Democrat needs to look and say, why are Republicans so obsessed with trans people? Because there's a study. They did a study of the places that consume the most trans porn. Much to everybody's surprise, there were these deep red counties, with number one being Lawton, Oklahoma, which is a military town with a bunch of good old Bo with their truck nuts and their Ford F150s and the Trump flags on it. And so Democrats need to grow some fangs and immediately start talking about, why are these people so obsessed with gay people? Why do they think about gay sex all the time? Are they gay? Is Josh Hawley, heterosexual. I need to know the answer to this. I want to know because I get a gaydar ping and I'm not thinking that he is at all. And I've also seen a photograph of him attempting to kiss his wife and it's really troublesome to look at. Kylie can pull it up for you so that you can see it. But as we continue to attack and we see that Trump is in his deathbed confession era, we see the curtains are closing. So do the right wingers. That I believe. Here we go. Here's Josh Hawley attempting to kiss his wife. Yeah, that's straight, right? Don't you think? That's how straight man kisses the love of his life. So we see the curtains closing, Kyle. And so do the the next iteration of maga. And I've been on my podcast talking about, you know, George W. Bush and the Tea Party incubated maga. What is MAGA incubating? And we're stupid if we don't think that they are incubating something. And that brings me to, of course, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Tucker Carlson, Massey etc and Tucker Carlson just released a manifesto. Pop this up. Tucker Carlson unveils a 10 point manifesto amid third party speculation. The points include equal justice, national sovereignty, productive economy, beautiful cities, public health, government, honesty, optimism through having children, wisdom in schools, decency abroad, and national unity. And I just want to remind you and the listener, we need to start attacking this right fucking now. Tucker Carlson is a batshit crazy loon who looks in the camera and pathologically lies to his viewers and says that when he was asleep, he was attacked by four demons. Four demons attacked him in his sleep and scratched him up. Mind you, he sleeps with these three gigantic dogs. But I think we need to get to work not only on dismantling maga, but also the future maga, which is this new America First Party, which are these loons, Tucker, Marjorie and Thomas Massie.
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You know, part of what they say is Trump didn't go far enough on immigration. And I feel like this is a very important point because what we've seen is ICE is a paramilitary gestapo. They're not a government agency. They're committing crime after crime. They're ruining people's lives. And their criticism is not the same criticism you and I have, that, hey, we don't like masked thugs who are taking away our freedom in this country. Their criticism is, no, he needs to deport more people. This is exactly what Nick Fuentes has also said. And so you don't have to just like the Old saying was, you never have to hand it to isis. You also never have to hand it to Tucker, because part of the criticism is Donald J. Trump is not fascist enough. Okay, Then a lot of the other stuff that they put in this goofy document they wrote, I mean, they're talking about reinvestigating 911 because he wants to flirt with the 911 conspiracy theories. Like, he thinks he's like this new iteration of Alex Jones as well. He's like, part original Trump and part Alex Jones in his own mind. So he's got that in there. He's also got a part where he talks about how we need, like, a fully sober society. And the reason that's hilarious is because there's not a single person on planet Earth that does more nicotine than Tucker Carlson. So he wants to keep his nicotine, but you know what? He wants to take away people's SSRIs, because he's one of the most.
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Is he in recovery? Is he, like, a recovering alky?
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I'm not sure if he's a recovering alky, but I do know. I mean, he's bragged about. Like, he says it's like the hand of God touches you when. Take these Zen pouches, these nicotine pouches. And so he's an addict of nicotine, one of the most addictive substances that there is. But he's like. And by the way, he also says RFK is phenomenal and we want to sign on to his health plan. Oh, you mean the guy who, like, chops off raccoon dicks and beheads whales and, you know, swam in sewage water with, like, his niece or his kids or grandkids or whatever the hell? Like, are you kidding me? No. It's an absolute joke. And we don't have to hand it to Tucker Carlson. He's trying to sort of keep the Republican Party viewed as somewhat populist. Like, hey, don't go to the left, don't go to the Democrats, because there's some of us here on the right that'll start a third party. Or maybe go back to the Republican Party who are actually anti war, and it's nothing but a giant ruse. In the same way that he tricked people into voting for Donald Trump and promising he was anti war, he's going to get right back on the bandwagon and try to get people to vote for J.D. vance, who's also lying about being anti war. He's a warmonger just like the rest of them. So don't fall for the tricks.
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I completely agree And I just want to visit very quickly with you. J.D. vance is throwing out some pretty racist stuff, veiled or thinly veiled, however you want to view it, towards Abdullah Sayed. Meanwhile, I said this a long time ago on MSNBC and the right wing had stage five, I mean, titty baby city snot slinging meltdown over it. But I said on Chris Hayes show, I said, When J.D. vance won't condemn the Nazi group chat, which is interesting because his wife is Indian and his kids are mixed. Rape. And so if he won't defend his wife and kids, what makes Americans thinks he's going to defend them? Well, of course, I mean, it's just lactation galore from all of the crying that the right wing had because I said that out. But this movement is really fascinating to me that they oppose dei and if you look at a picture of and JD Vance with their kids, it's like, you might want to embrace dei, you dipshit.
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Yeah, it's, I'll never understand it. The, the deep hypocrisy because he's been trying, like he won't fully condemn Nick Fuentes. He wants to be accepted by the groipers, but like you said, they're never going to accept you. It's like, it's like I want to say this to every minority Republican. You saw what happened the other day with the election with the guy named Amir Hasan who was endorsed by Donald J. Trump. And Amir Hasan lost his Republican primary even though his opponent had dropped out for about a month or two because that guy's name was like Tom Smith or something very white sounding. And so the, the only person who is really on the ballot for MAGA and endorsed by Trump lost simply because his name is Amir Hassan. So if you are a minority Republican, like, take the hint, they hate you. You will never be accepted. You're a token for them. The second you utter 0.01% disagreement or not even that, you're done, you're out, it's over.
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Well, and also I want to warn the white MAGA folk because they didn't learn the Mike Pence lesson. You know, there's a guy who's on TV right now because his fiance from Venezuela, Jasmine, got detained at the George H.W. bush Airport in Hous. And he, you know, he can't understand how this happened to him. He's a business owner and he pays taxes and he's voted for Trump. And he just can't believe that they. Eight people came and took Jasmine. And I'm like, they tried to kill Mike Pence. Your complexion is not going to protect you here. So there's also a Mike Pence lesson in this whole fascist regime. I mean, Stephen Miller thinks he's going to be safe. You think. You think if something happens to your boss that Don Jr. And Eric are going to protect your ass? No, it's just not happening.
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Do you remember the Trump Burger guy who was an immigrant who created a restaurant called Trump Burger and they deported him?
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That's right.
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They're never going to accept you. Never.
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Well, the White House has responded to Marjorie Taylor Greene, Massie and Tucker. So they're taking this rather seriously. So pot this up. Update. The White House has responded to Tucker's potential 2028 presidential bid. This photo represents an embarrassing collection of mostly whiny turncoats who dramatically overestimate influence and relevance. I. I just. From living in Oklahoma for 50 years. Tucker's message and Marjorie's me message will hit hard. It will hit really hard. If they go in to America and most people consume your news in 30 to 60 seconds and they say MAGA lost their way. He lied to us and he said he was America first, and he ended up being Israel first, and we shouldn't send our money there anymore. And we're taking a. This movement still provides the racism that a lot of Americans want. Plus putting America first. And I'm just really concerned that people on the left right now are not preparing for this next iteration of maga.
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So what I'll say is this. There was a poll that came out a while ago when Tucker was defecting, and they asked people, would you take. Who would you side with, Trump or Tucker? They asked the Republican base, who are you going to side with, Trump or Tucker? And the results were, like, overwhelming. It was like 85% Trump or something like that. Okay. What we're looking at here actually might help us, because if Tucker were to create a third party, have candidates run in a third party or as independents or whatever, all he needs to do is take, like, 2 to 5% of the vote away from Republicans, and that really opens up a lane where any Democrat all across this country is going to win, even in districts that theoretically are not that competitive for Democrats. So in a way, I actually like this because it's divide and conquer, where I don't think they realize that they're doing divide and conquer. Now, I say that, but maybe at the same time, maybe Tucker really is about that life and he's willing to try to get back at Trump, and this is his idea to get back at Trump to try to say like, oh, yeah, we're creating a movement that's like OG maga. We're representing the OG MAGA ideas, the anti corruption ideas, the anti war ideas. And that might peel off 2 to 5% of the Republican based voters, but the Republican Party truly is a cult. So I kind of agree with what the White House said there because Trump's basically like, hey, man, nobody can cross me because I'm the ultimate arbiter of what's acceptable. How many times has Trump said, I am maga, I decide what's America First. If America first now means Israel first, then America first means Israel first and you guys got to deal with that. So in a way, they're ripping themselves to shreds. And I love it because I feel like even if they weren't, we're still in a position to like, dominate with a blue tsunami the likes of which nobody's ever seen before.
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I like where your head's at on this. Okay, so as progressives are winning, Zoran Abdul the center Democrats have some things to say. And Andrew Cuomo simply just does not know how to shut up and go away. And so here is a video of Andrew Cuomo weighing in on the Michigan race. Play the clip.
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Conceptually change, reform, everything free sounded great, but now the DSA opened their mouth, Democratic socialists, and they're starting to explain what their platform is. And it is frightening. Oh, my days. Yeah. What's so frightening about universal health care, which every other developed country has except us? What's so frightening about higher wages? What's so frightening about ending illegal wars of aggression against countries that didn't attack us? What's so frightening about actually going after the Epstein pedophile cabal that Donald Trump is protecting? What's so frightening about ending the massed Gestapo force, which is assaulting senior citizens and shooting priests in the face with pepper balls and shoving people in concentration camps? No, Andrew Cuomo, you lost to Zoran Mamdani convincingly. Ok. I love it when these people who were blown out twice, Twice, he lost twice. These people who got blown out come out, go, oh, I'm going to tell you what makes sense and how you get elected. Like Claire McCaskill used to do this on MSNBC too. It's like you just lost.
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Yeah.
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How about you go to Shut Shut the fuck Upsville? How about that?
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I completely agree. Okay, so Laura Ingram is going through some things. You know, she was at Dr. Fauci's hearing and she just looks so happy about that. But I also think she's really horny because she was talking about how hot she thinks AOC is. She's like her gold locks and that red lipstick. I just want to remind the viewer Laura Ingram is somebody who promotes traditional family value and she is an unmarried woman with kids who AKA lesbian. I didn't say that. But anyway, here she is. She cannot stop talking about Hasan Piker. Play the clip. But Hasan Piker, the Democrats new socialist surrogate is a total phony. He's a Nepo baby who spends more time thinking about his wardrobe than his putrid rhetoric.
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I just love how much they're attracted not only to Hasan, but I also saw some clip, I forget who it was on the right going, you know, are you really gonna fall for, for Abdul being a dream boat and wearing those tight shirts?
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Oh, that was Laura Ingram.
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Oh, that was Laura Ingram too.
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Yeah. I'm telling you she's horny. I mean, I'm telling you that Lawrence goes out every night, so does Jesse works. Everybody's so horny at Fox. It's unbelievable how horny their on air talent is. They need to hire like some sex workers and just let them go through there and let them get through all sexual pin up sexual frustration they have because Jesse Waters goes on and on and on about men and sucking out of straws and slurping. I mean, just always seems, I'm like these people need to get laid. But here's a graph showing how, how often Fox show talks about Hassan versus talks about Jeffrey Epstein. Pop this up. Look at this.
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That says it all, man.
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So this family values channel, AKA a pathological lying propaganda channel that, that feeds propaganda propaganda to the dumbest motherfuckers in this country. Because you have to be a complete dipshit beyond all comprehension to say I'm going to get my news from the news channel that lies and had to pay a billion dollars because of their lies. And so of course they're lying about all this family values. As I mentioned, Laura Ingram never married. He's got these kids, I don't know where they came from and then I don't know where their dad is. All the traditional family, which I'm of the school of thought, I support Laura. I just don't support what a hypocrite Laura is. But they don't give a about Jeffrey Epstein. They don't give a about kids because maga, a death pro pedophilia death cult. Every single time we turn on the news. That's what their policies are.
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I'M telling you, this is backfiring big time. Because when they come after Hasan or come after you or come after me, they don't understand that we're unfiltered. We can say whatever we want to say. You're like, you know, in the guardrails of mainstream media, you know, you got to cut to a fricking Pfizer commercial before you even get your point out. We could say whatever we want to say. And they are not ready for this smoke. They're just not ready for it. And the other thing is, we always refocus it back on the issues, which is something they can't deal with. They're going to end up attacking us, as they're doing with Abdul now. They're going to call them a terrorist and do all that garbage. But then Abdul is going to say, do you support universal health care or not? Do you support higher wages or not? Do you want to end this illegal war against Iran where we've wasted over $100 billion or not? And they cannot win this fight. Not even close. And so I welcome it, man. I mean, I know Hasan probably doesn't like that they come after him every seven seconds. They also have a tendency to go after you every seven seconds. But honestly, it's a badge of honor. I mean, you guys can wear it as a badge of honor. And also, it's tremendous in terms of driving eyeballs to your show and his show. And then everybody's watching you guys, waiting for the response. And then you guys obviously flame Fox and make them look stupid. It's all falling apart for them because they are preaching to a nursing home. Nobody's watching them. I'm sorry, they're dying. They're barely paying attention. Okay, so it's over. I mean, it really is over. They're in dire straits.
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I think it's good because it brings people to his channel, to my channel, to your channel. And of course, we all. We get sassy and we say that chops up in 20 seconds, where it's like these blah, blah. But when you really dive into your show or my show or Hassan show, there's policy there, there's plan there, there's universal human rights there. There's nothing that radical, which you mentioned, that they are going to call Abdul el Sayad a terrorist. And I would like for us to make a list of domestic terrorists in the United States. Now, I think that Mitch McConnell is a domestic terrorist. He has terrorized the people of Kentucky. He has terrorized every single woman in the United States. By valuing the rights of a rapist over the rights of a rape victim. And so give me your top three domestic terrorists that you see in this country right now.
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I mean, how about this? Donald Trump. Donald Trump and Donald Trump. I love the idea that we're, you know, we're getting lectures about terrorism from these people. Donald Trump carpet bombed a little girls school in Iran, killing 170 precious little girls. And they actually triple tapped it. They knew it was a school, they knew it had little girls, but those were the little girls of the IRGC top level officials. And so they thought, we're going to send a message. You don't mess with us because we'll murder your children. Ok, so that's just one example of their terrorism. The fact of the matter is since Trump got back in the White House, he's bombed fishing boats from Venezuela and Trinidad and Tobago and Colombia. They've killed over 180 innocent people. No due process whatsoever, no evidence of any wrongdoing. They did the regime change in Venezuela, where they kidnapped a sovereign leader and then stole the gold and the oil. And Trump is personally profiting off that by taking the money from the oil sales and putting it in a private bank account in Qatar that only he controls. And then he also bombed Yemen and Somalia and Nigeria and Ecuador and we got the regime change in Iran and he's threatening Greenland and Panama and Canada and Cuba and Mexico. It would be easier to list the countries he doesn't want to attack because that's a shorter list compared to the countries he does want to attack. He says he solved eight wars. No, he started eight wars. And so I don't want to hear, I'm not going to hear a lecture about terrorism from his people. Did you know that Trump pardoned a guy who laundered money for Al Qaeda because that guy bought his crypto coin? I'm not kidding about this. He also bragged about putting the, the new Syrian president in power. Trump bragged about putting him there. That guy was a former head of Al Nusra Front, which is a branch of al Qaeda. OK, tell me how the 911 families are feeling about that one. Right, so I don't want to hear anything. You can call Abdul Said, whatever the hell you want to call Abdul said. It's not going to land because everybody knows you are the real extremists, you are the real terrorists.
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I completely agree. And I think we need to keep messaging that the real domestic terrorists are the people in the MAGA regime. Trump, Vance, Rubio, Hegseth, these people are the terrorists. And of course little Stephen Miller is the biggest domestic terrorist because he gets off on the recreational cruelty and murder and crimes that ICE commits. But I want to bring up some, some more hypocrisy surrounding the Zoran Abdul Hassan. These are men that are Muslim in in faith, although I don't think Hassan practices, but the other two do. And this is really dismantling in real time decades of propaganda that Muslim people are anti woman and terrorists that hate the West. Meanwhile, they are supporting trans rights, gay rights, they're not banning books, they're for universal human rights, they're for health care for all. But little Jared Kushner, he goes over with the real terrorists, the Saudi government, who I want to remind everybody, dismembered Jamal Khashoggi, put him in acid and then poured his body down the drain. And they are making billions and billions and billions of dollars off of the funders of 9 11. The people who actually funded it were the Saudis. And this is just, you know, nobody ever talks about this duplicity. They want to say that somehow Zoron or Hassan or Abdul are these wild rogue Sharia law, crazy ass Muslims and these people support universal human rights. Meanwhile, little Kushner is like billions and billions and billions of dollars richer doing business with these terrorists.
C
Let's look at what Zoron has done so far. Crime went down to a historic low under Zoron's watch, which flies directly in the face of the idea that democratic socialists are like pro crime and they're anti police and everything falls apart under them.
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Wrong.
C
He's at a historic low with crime. He also cracked down on shitty landlords. He also ordered a deep cleaning of the subway, which made it cleaner than it's ever been down there. He also got Hochul to agree to universal childcare. He also froze the rent and filled a record number of potholes and he taxed the rich. So he's delivering on all of his promises. And to your point, what is the right doing the most obvious crime spree we've ever seen in this country's history in the most blatant and brazen and overt fashion possible? I mean, they are coming up the creativity they use in their criminal schemes, if they applied 1% of that to actually fixing this country. We live in a utopia. So to your point on Kushner, he took $2 billion from Saudi Arabia and allegedly was slipping them classified information which led to MBS arresting all the people who were challenging his authority and his power. That's just one example. I mean, we can get into the insider trading and the pay for pardon schemes, but this is not a government, this is a criminal syndicate. They are in there simply to self deal and profit while they force fascism on every innocent person in this country. And when you look at the contrast between Zoran and Abdul and you compare them to what any politician on the right is doing, it is night and day, and they know that, which is why they're panicking and they're smearing and all they have is vitriolic hate and bigotry and Islamophobia the likes of which. We haven't seen racism like this used in politics since Jim Crow. With how hard they're about to go against Abdul El Sayed. So everybody better prepare for that.
B
Yeah, And I just also want to point out that Zoran is also loosening regulations to make it easier to do business in New York.
C
Right.
B
And so for all of the pro business people, he doesn't hardly get any credit for that. He is undoing a lot of stupid, unnecessary hoops that people had to go through to do businesses. But let's talk about. We have to browbeat Elon Musk because it's just fun, right? So naturally we know that Elon is a liar and a loser and he lied about Doge. Pop this up. Elon Musk. U s Doge Service consistently overstated its savings, taking credit for lease cancellations initiated before the group existed, a government watchdog found. Doge also claimed contracts were terminated that had not been, the report said the Government Accountability Office found that Doge inflated the 110 billion. It said it saved the federal government. Of course, of course. I, I think this whole thing, the Doge thing, was a quid pro quo. I'll give you $300 million, Trump, if you win. I get to go in and shut down all of these investigations into me because Elon Musk is a parasitic welfare queen. He is the worst immigrant this nation has ever had and God only knows how many kids. He's the world's top deadbeat father. And I think he did Doge. And he went in because USAID was investigating him and a lot of other places. And all of this was to shut down investigations into himself because he's a con art just like the rest of them.
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I hope the next Democratic candidates are watching this, because I'm going to put something out there and I really hope they implement it. And I mean this from the bottom of my heart. Elon Musk belongs in prison, okay? He Belongs in prison. This is a man who illegally hacked in to the back end of our government. He had no right to be there. Completely violates the way it's supposed to work. Hacked into the treasury and he slashed pediatric cancer research, by the way, there were some promising potential cures that he cut the funding for. That's how low this man is. He also cut the National Weather Service, which led to botched forecasts, which led to a camp of children dying in Texas because they didn't get the warnings that they needed to get. Ok? He cut Meals on Wheels. He cut the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. He cut the nuclear safety officials. They had to beg for the top nuclear safety official to come back because they accidentally fired the top guy, okay? They destroyed FEMA and the Department of education. He fired 83,000 veterans. They cut half of the Social Security offices, which led to long waits for people who needed to get problems fixed. They fired over 250,000 public workers. You see this outbreak of all these illnesses now, these foodborne illnesses, that is all directly because they fired the food safety inspectors, okay? All the airplanes crashing, that was because they fired air traffic controllers. They gutted scientific research and medical research. Now brain drain is happening in this country. The best and the brightest don't want to come here anymore. They're done with the United States of America. And then, of course, don't get me started on USA like you pointed out, where hundreds of thousands and eventually millions of people are going to die because he decided to cut off their very cheap but very important malaria medication, HIV medication, etc. This man belongs in prison. And honestly, this is one of the most open and shut cases I've ever seen. You don't even need a good prosecutor to make the case against him. So I'm calling on Democrats to subpoena Elon Musk, get his ass in front of a congressional committee hearing, grill his ass. And then as soon as the next Democratic president gets sworn in, I want Jack Smith to be the Attorney General and I want Jack Smith to lock this man up.
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I totally agree with you. That was so therapeutically satisfying. And I want to leave you and our listener with the Donald Trump. I know you noticed a few days ago he wore a wig out in public gender affirming care. And so there's been a lot of memes all over the Internet because everybody hates Donald Trump except for like 20% of the country that are complete cultists and are FUBAR and we should never try to get their votes. But here are some of the memes of Trump in wigs. For those of you listening. They're like big bouffant hair because he's so fun to make fun of. Kyle, last thoughts?
C
I mean, geez, I don't know. I'm feeling. I'm feeling hopeful these days. I'm feeling hopeful these days because, you know, Abdul wound up winning. Zoran's doing an amazing job over there in New York. Malak heroes won in Colorado. So, you know, we're proving that our politics is not only for deep blue cities, it's for places all around this country. And there's an awakening happening and there's a reckoning coming for the right. And I think they know that. That's why they're scared. That's why they're panicking. That's why they're hurling accusations of Abdul being a terrorist or whatever, running the weakest campaigns we've ever seen. So everybody hang in there. Get out there and vote. Do whatever you can in terms of helping out our candidates and pushing back against this fascism. And I think we'll have a lot more good news to talk about in short order, too, I believe.
B
I completely agree, Kyle. It's always a pleasure. It's very satisfying. We share the same kind of rage towards all of this. I'm sure my listeners total loved it. And give my love to Crystal. Thank you.
C
All right, my pleasure. Thank you, Jennifer. I appreciate it.
This episode features Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan in conversation with progressive commentator Kyle Kalinsky, dissecting the current state and fracturing future of MAGA under Trump’s declining power. The discussion blends comedic roasting with trenchant political commentary, focusing on MAGA’s servility, the hypocrisy and contradictions within the right, evolutions in right-wing leadership (notably Tucker Carlson’s ambitions), and the strength and optimism within the progressive movement. The hosts and guest also offer pointed critiques on media hypocrisy, the right’s culture wars, and figures like Elon Musk and Jared Kushner, closing on a motivational note for progressives.
The episode is a cathartic blend of venting and strategy, urging progressives to play offense and highlighting the right’s accelerating self-destruction through its hypocrisy, internecine conflict, and failure to address real issues. The hosts and guest celebrate recent progressive wins, forecast further openings amid right-wing civil war, and urge continued activism and vigilance—never letting up on mockery, factual counterattack, and optimism for systemic change.