Co-host/Analyst (3:32)

I hope you're right because the people that would be all in for that are already Trump, Trump, triple trumpers, Bible thumpers. They're in that 30% that still supports him. But I thought this was so inappropriate the way he was behaving. First of all, like you said, he doesn't give a. This reminds me of how are you doing about your good friend dying. Oh look, we're building my trucks. It was the exact same thing. Zero respect for Charlie.

Host/Commentator (3:57)

And this is, this is what's so insidious about what Charlie Kirk did in his movement when he was alive. He's taking people that were highly, highly indoctrinated in their homes, had parents that believed in a black and white worldview, parents that probably religiously shamed their children as a form of parenting, told them they weren't good, told them they needed saving, told them they couldn't have feelings of wanting to kiss somebody, wanting to. Young teenage boys couldn't masturbate because that was from the devil. Then they get to college campuses and that's a place where you can critically think and you're outside of your parents iron fist ruling and the megachurches shame oppression that is hammered down on people in Bible belt states and some of these cities now where these megachurches went to evolve, to make more money. And Charlie Kirk was there to reinforce the worst impulses in these kids lives. And that's what's so insidious about his movement. College campuses are supposed to be a free thought, critical thinking. And I personally knew so many people that were indoctrinated deeply by their parents, deeply by their mega churches, got to college and then we're able to start critically thinking. It's really diabolical this movement, what it tries to do to kids in an area where they open up their minds and can evolve. And so this funeral is terrifying for so many different reasons. Next up we have Kanks with his message during the funeral.

Steve Bannon (5:28)

Kirk truly was. He was a missionary with a noble spirit and a great, great purpose. He did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best for them. That's where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponent and I don't want the best for them. I'm sorry. I am sorry, Eric.

Host/Commentator (5:49)

First and foremost, that's so gross. But expected. Not surprised in the least bit that he said that. Secondly, Charlie Kirk was an unrepentant, racist, homophobe, misogynist. You can say he didn't hate his opponents, but everything that he advocated for was oppressive, was to oppress people. Demeaning a person that might be a pilot because of the color of their skin, telling Taylor Swift she needed to submit to her husband. And that's just child's play. I mean, if you really dive into this guy's body of work, it was horrific, hateful, hateful rhetoric. And so it makes. It's no surprise to me that Trump and Charlie Kirk found each other and that their policies aligned. There's some revisionist history here to say that Charlie Kirk didn't hate his opponents. Maybe he smiled and he. But I've heard so many clips of the stuff that he has said. He talked about children witnessing executions at 12 years old. That's pretty hateful. So this whole movement is. And this whole funeral was just contradictions all at one time. Erica Kirk, I forgive the killer kinks comes out. I hate everybody. And so this is. This is what this evangelical Christianity is. It is just this movement of contradictions, this movement of people that have a mouth full of scripture and hearts full of hate. And so if Charlie Kirk were so full of Christianity, he would have never found himself in a position to support Donald Trump. This is hypocrisy on parade and the demise of. Of the United States of America if this fringe movement continues at the rate that it is. This is. These people want to isolate. They intentionally want to destroy the economy. They want to take away all women's rights. They want to erode this country to where when they say make America great again, we're going back to just white supremacist men's ruling. And I'm dead serious. That's what's in Project 2025.

Co-host/Analyst (7:57)

It is. And when you look at what they're doing, they're isolating us from NATO. They're isolating us from every but Israel. They're tanking the economy now. They don't want to give vaccines. Poor people and sick people are disposable in an autocracy. It's absolutely stunning that it's picked up as much speed as it had and they put it on the news.

Host/Commentator (8:20)

Okay, so next up, you mentioned Israel. And Tucker Carlson goes out on stage, you guys. And there is this whole, like, civil war within The MAGA movement of Christian Zionists like Huckabee, Laura Loomer and others that are just like, you know, want to be one with Israel. And then there are the people like Tucker Carlson and others. And Charlie Kirk was allegedly one of these. And I, I've seen some video of him questioning October 7th and did Benjamin Netanyahu allow a security lapse intentionally? And so there is this in this civil war, but a lot of it within the right is rooted in anti Semitism. And what I'm going to play for you right here is a video of T. Tucker Carlson basically equating the killing of Jesus Christ to the killing of Charlie Kirk. And that one particular type of people did both play the clip. It's stunning.

Tucker Carlson (9:21)

Ultimately he was a Christian evangelist. And it actually reminds me of my favorite story ever. So it's about 2,000 years ago in Jerusalem and Jesus shows up and he starts talking about the people in power and he starts doing the worst thing that you can do, which is telling the truth about people. And they hate it and they just go bonkers. They hate it and they become obsessed with making him stop. This guy's got to stop talking. We've got to shut this guy up. And I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamp lit room with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus, thinking about what do we do about this guy telling the truth about us? We must make him stop, stop talking. And there's always one guy with the bright idea. And I could just hear him say, I've got an idea, why don't we just kill him? That'll shut him up, that'll fix the problem.

Host/Commentator (10:17)

Oh my God, how weird.

Tucker Carlson (10:19)

It doesn't work that way. It doesn't work that way. Everything is inverted.

Host/Commentator (10:25)

Yes, if, if you're thinking, okay, well did he or did he not just accuse the Jews of killing Charlie Kirk? All you need to know is the neo Nazis and the anti semites online 100% think that's exactly what he said. People of Tucker Carlson's state in their career don't just flippantly make these type of statements and say, oh, you misunderstood or it's out of context, this was intentional. And it's, it's wild to me still that so many Zionist Jewish people think that they're going to be safe in this, within this party, that they don't ever think that this party where under their big tent there's room for Nazi flags, Nazi propaganda. The president's top advisor to quote and plagiarize Nazi propaganda speech that at some point those knives aren't going to be turned on them. Same reason why, as a woman, this doesn't appeal to me because I know at some point the knives are going to be turned on women.

Co-host/Analyst (11:30)

Well, this regime turns against everyone when it behooves them. It's women now. We're going after service members that are lgbtqi plus black people in the military. They're going after everyone. And these white women don't believe they're coming after them. We don't have abortion in Oklahoma. It's already started. And Tucker Carlson is up there saying all this stuff. Mind you, Elon Musk is also there that did sick heils on the stage. And you have all these Nazi flags, every Trump rally, Trump vote parade. So it's just the cognitive dissonance that it's ever going to come back on them. It's the terminal uniqueness that I'm special.

Host/Commentator (12:13)

Right, okay. And then here we have. This is the top advisor to a president who is intellectually lazy, doesn't really care about policy, cares more about what late night comedians say about him than he does about making the United States a prosperous, safe country. He doesn't care about any of that. So in that vacuum of the President of the United States not giving a shit about the country, how it's run, you have evil people that come and step up to the plate. And no one is worse than Stephen Miller. And Stephen Miller, in this speech, you guys, he basically plagiarizes Hitler's propaganda. This Joseph Goebbels. And this is just crazy. This is such insanity that this event was even televised. Play the clip.

Pete Hegseth (13:08)

Light will defeat the dark. We will prevail over the forces of wickedness and evil. They cannot imagine what they have awakened. They cannot conceive of the army that they have arisen in all of us, because we stand for what is good, what is virtuous, what is noble. And to those trying to incite violence against us, those trying to foment hatred against us, what do you have? You have nothing. You are nothing. You are wickedness. You are jealousy. You are envy. You are hatred. You are nothing. You can build nothing. You can produce nothing. You can create nothing. We are the ones who build. We are the ones who create. We are the ones who lift up humanity.

Host/Commentator (14:06)

To quote George W. Bush, that's some weird shit. I mean, that is just in. When I heard the audience applause, it doesn't surprise me because I have grown up in a Christian nationalist state around evangelical Christians whom say one thing. Oh, I'm going to Bible study, I'm doing this. And then when it comes to standing up for a marginalized person, they're picking on them. And this is just in just normal. Like you're at the park with your kids and you see some Christian woman and she's disparaging a child. And so this sort of cruelty doesn't surprise me because this is the culture that megachurch hyper Christianity has created. And I grew up around it and it is one of the cruelest movements that I've ever seen. And what terrifies me so much is as a progressive atheist that lived in the Bible belt, I always knew the federal government was going to protect me from these worst dark age impulses of Christianity. And now it's mainstreamed and it's wild. It is so crazy to see this and it's so terrifying. And I hope, hope, I hope to God Democrats, and if there are any sane Republicans and independents recognize that this is a death cult. This type of Christianity is no different from Islamist extremism. It's, it's absolutely 000 difference. And these people are dead serious and they are mean. As I'm telling you, we live around these people. They like that. They like it.

Co-host/Analyst (15:54)

They like it because it's saying how great they are and how terrible everybody else is. But for him to sit up there and it's televised saying the people who do violence against them, it is, you all are doing the violence, you all are doing the division. You all are otherizing people and demeaning people. But the people that watch that, they believe Stephen Miller.

Host/Commentator (16:13)

Well, they're using this the same way that Hitler used the Reichtag fire. And they, when I knew we were in big trouble was in the, the first hour to two hours after it was announced that Charlie Kirk had been murdered. The coordinated messaging to blame the left. And NBC reported over the weekend that the FBI and law enforcement still cannot link the shooter to any left wing organizations. They can't link him to anything. He's one of their own. And what's so fascinating to me is this one thing that you would always think government would do is after something like this, what caused this? Well, we know access to guns is a huge, huge problem. Well, they're not talking about that. Radicalization is something they're talking about, but they're lying about it. They're lying about how this kid was radicalized. They won't ever mention that perhaps he was radicalized in a black and white worldview, starting in his church and with his parents because there is this whole thing that Christians believe, not all Christians, but these right wingers, that you cannot criticize them. They are above any form of criticism. And when I first, we first started this podcast, I've always been pretty outspoken about the dangers that I see in radical Christianity. And people get really, really upset if you even inject a tiny bit of critical thinking and put and splinter their worldview. They get really hysterical, which is the sign, the choreography in a cult. And lastly, I just want you to realize how everybody in maga, all of the players that built this right wing media ecosystem, how they see this funeral as this big victory. Listen to Steve Bannon.

Steve Bannon (18:07)

The whole service was muscular Christianity. This is why I put out the New York Times and MSNBC are going to lead tomorrow because, you know, they're melting down muscular, you know, a form of muscular Christianity, Christian nationalism.

Host/Commentator (18:23)

Muscular Christianity and Christian nationalism. That is what is in Project 2025. To all of the white people that voted for Donald Trump, that are not crazy, mega church attendees that thought they were going to get a tax break and their 401ks were going to flourish, your racism that you refuse to address and reconcile and come to terms with led you to this and you're going to lose all of it. This is as dangerous as it gets. All right, that's all we have. We'll be back later with more news.