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Krystal Ball
Foreign.
Saagar Enjeti
I'm not trying to be hyperbolic when I say this, but I honestly believe Donald Trump would rather take us to war and break with our allies than just accept that he did not get the Nobel Peace Prize. This man is still talking about the Nobel Peace Prize. So much so that he sent a letter to the Norwegian Prime Minister. And here's what it says. Dear Jonas, considering your country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped eight wars plus, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of peace. What in the Like, Why is nobody stopping this? Why is there no Marco Rubio? You're an expert on foreign intelligence and all that crap. You're the Secretary of State, State. And he is saying he's no longer going to prioritize peace because he didn't win an award and he got sloppy seconds. And the Nobel Peace Prize committee says you can't take sloppy seconds. It's so juvenile.
Krystal Ball
This same Norwegian Prime Minister, that all of the Europeans are starting to leak things, said over the weekend that Trump would call him all the time and would say, you need to talk. Y' all need to make sure I get the Peace Prize. You need to make sure I get it. And he would say, the country of Norway has nothing to do with the Peace Prize. And he told him this multiple times, like a dozen times. And he couldn't comprehend it much. In the same way that he cannot comprehend that those seeking asylum and those in an insane asylum are two different things. So we have a comprehension level there. But think about the toddler like impulse of, I'm all for peace as long as you give me a trophy. And then if you don't get me a trophy, I'm going to start World War iii. And as for why nobody is stopping him, number one, I would argue that Marco Rubio is not an expert in foreign policy. Marco Rubio is an expert in ass kissing. You have a. A dictator that's not even that good of one on the national stage. And he is committing suicide of this country. And we're all sitting here watching it. And you have the Republicans who are part of the hive mind that will do whatever he says, because from Trump 1.0, we know that if you disagree with him, you're going to get fired. So there haven't been a lot of firings this go round because nobody will disagree with him. Nobody will say, your letter is bananas, you look like a toddler. This is unpresidential. Nobody is going to say that to him. And so he continues to do all of These things. And so that leads me back to what I always come back to, the Democrats. So what are they doing right now? And what you have is a very disjointed resistance. You have the Chris Van Hollens, the Bernie Sanders, the Elizabeth Warrens that seem to understand that these corporate Democrats are compromised and not in a position to lead the resistance or to lead the Democratic Party. And then you have the Cory Bookers, the Chuck Schumers, the Hakeem Jeffries that play patty cake with fascists. And the end result is the underlining of the economy that he's eroding right now with nobody wanting to come here for tourism, nobody wanting to do business with us, our allies turning to China and other superpowers is, is generational economic damage to one of the world's greatest economies in the world. So my question is to all these country club Republicans that are able to accept homophobia and able to accept racism without even losing an ink. I mean, just a little bit of sleep at night because you're fiscally conservative and you vote your pocketbook, and it only affects me in my tax bracket. And I don't care what happens to these black people or these, you know, immigrants. He just screwed you, too. Which goes to what we've been telling everybody all along. Nobody is safe under this man. No one.
Saagar Enjeti
Well, he's completely unhinged. And then you see what he's, you know, he's talking about Greenland, he's talking about Cuba, he's Colombia, all this, you know, threatening wars against everybody. And then we learn from Kristen Welkert, NBC News, that now he's going to turn his focus on Canada, our closest neighbor and what was our closest ally. He's ramping up his focus on another target in the Western Hemisphere, increasingly complaining to AIDS in recent weeks about Canada's vulnerability to U.S. adversaries in the Arctic. And I just, I want to go on the permanent record. Trump doesn't give a about Canadian vulnerability to other powers. He wants to take it. He wants to say, I'm a big boy, and I took Venezuela, and I'm a big boy, and I took Greenland, and I'm a big boy, boy, and now I'm taking Canada. This man has the absolute dictator, authoritarian, fascist mindset. I want to be just like Putin, because Putin has the pictures between of me and Bubba. I cannot wrap my head around this. But it just continues every day. And we hear nothing from, like you said, Democrats saying, you, you are not Putin. You don't get to just take countries. You don't get to just take other countries presidents, you don't get to interfer other elections. You don't get to bail out economies that Scott Bessant's best friend loaned a bunch of money to.
Krystal Ball
It's.
Saagar Enjeti
It honestly, sometimes I feel like it can't be real. That's how disjointed it is.
Krystal Ball
It's really, it's really the whiplash of being an American right now. You know what I have to say is this is, this is a huge country and it's, it's very, it's not like Germany, it's not like Italy. It is a big, big country with a lot of local and state governments all throughout it. And we have to stay focused right now because he is going to continue to do these things. And people are whispering in his ear, a lot of people who are very connected to Vladimir Putin's dream of weakening NATO so that he can march onto the European Union. And that mindset also coincides with the tech oligarchs who don't want their platforms regulated in a regulated economy like the eu. And so these Trump, it's not like he's over there machinating about world domination. He's getting dog walked by people all around him. I mean if somebody really sat down in front of him, said we need to talk about the ballroom for all week long, he'd be all in on that. You know what I mean? He's, it's not like he's like, okay, give me like he's playing with the, remember the, in the 80s, the game Risk, you know, he's every report from everybody around him. He's intellectually lazy. It's just he, people are dog walking him. But here's, here's what, here's what I was going to say. What I've had to do to get me through this is I see the America that these guys want, which is not America. It's, it's this tried and true playbook. We all know where it ends up in the history books of these broken men who struggle with probably their testosterone and penis sizes and various other Freudian type sexual assignments, right? And they're doing what all of these people before them have done and we all know how it ends. And then there's the America that I have an affection for. And it's an America where we have a really messy past. But with each election, with each decade, each year, we try to advance towards a quote, more perfect union. And I know that sounds, you know, silly to say right now, but I believe in this place. And I'm an American through and through. And we cannot give our country to these toddlers who are an absolute laughing stock on the global stage. I mean, this man is throwing a fit and threatening to blow up the whole world because he doesn't understand the difference between the country of Norway and then the Norwegian Nobel Peace Prize. It's based in Norway and it, it's in the hive mind of these Republicans. They just will go along with whatever he says they will. And I think it's probably about 30% of the country and the 70% of us that care about each other, care about other countries in the world, care about Greenland, care about Canada, care about America, care about the immigrants that are here, care about our black population. That always gets on, you know, we have to stand together and we have to cut through the noise, cut through the crap, cut through these corporate democrats, and nobody's coming to save us but us. But I think these fascists are so incompetent. I think we might get this, I really, really do this. That what they're doing, the level of incompetence is so Europe could tank our economy in 24 hours if they wanted to. They could start dumping all of their investments and it would completely us. And they have the ability to do that.
Saagar Enjeti
Well, that is the perfect segue because over the weekend, Trump got mad at Europe because they're not backing his play to take over Greenland. So he sends out just a deranged lie social about how he is going to start a new tariff. 10% more on February 1 and then 25% more on June 6, unless everybody does what he wants, which is give him Greenland, let him have Greenland. And so here's the thing about that. Then Europe responds pretty forcefully in a joint statement. And basically they say, tariff skipping to the end. Tariff threats undermine transatlantic relations and risk a dangerous downward downward spiral. We will continue to stand united and coordinate in our responses. We are committed to upholding our sovereignty. And then I've read a bunch over the weekend about how Europe is finally starting to figure it out and they are looking at all options on how to combat this. And I, sadly, I think that that might be what wakes some people up, is Europe saying you and tanks our economy and nobody wants that. Well, maybe Trump does.
Krystal Ball
Well, it's really important to understand these tariffs are not tariffs on Europe. They are attacks on Americans. These are taxes on Americans because this regime and the low t hive mind oligarchs that are chronically online trying to prove how masculine they are, they have Such disdain for American citizens. This the European Union, the hive mind oligarchs, Elon Musk and his posse of beta males online, they do not like the European Union because it is an example that you can regulate capitalism and that you can provide social safety nets and that you can, you can provide health care for people. They do not want that example here. So I watched this, this is kind of going off the reservation here, but I think this is really interesting. I watched this probably like 10 minute little mini documentary on Instagram and it was a. I can't remember what the account is, but it. They were talking about people who were voted, voted for Trump all three times and voted for mom Donnie. And they found this guy in Queens and he was a triple Trumper. He was a turning point USA or the whole thing. But he also voted for mom Donnie and they asked him why. And when he was in college he was totally into the turning point thing. And then he studied in Japan and that kind of opened his eyes like wow. You know, as an American I thought every other place in the world was a piece of. That's a pretty nice place. We got really, really sick in Japan and he went to the hospital or to the doctor and he only paid $30 out of pocket and he received it ton of like world class treatment and he was like wow, why don't we have that? So that was like the first eye opening thing. He gets back to Astoria in Queens and his roof in his apartment is leaking, leaking, leaking, leaking. Cause the landlord, cause the landlord, landlord will not do anything. So he ends up calling the assemblyman Zoran Mamdani's office and they send some people over and they find the landlord and landlord has to get the roof fixed, etc. And. And he was like wow, this is the first time the government's actually ever done anything for me. So he started to realize and he's going through this awakening outside of the MAGA media echo chamber, there are other countries in the world that provide a social safety net and it's not sucking off.
Saagar Enjeti
Right?
Krystal Ball
The people who are sucking off the taxpayer tit are the billionaires. Elon Musk is the biggest one welfare queen. And so he had. It's a really. I'll DM it to you and I'll listener. I'll have Kylie try to put it down in the notes. It was really a very well done thing. But that's why they have such a hard on for Europe because they know that it is a living, breathing example of the remedy that a lot of us want in our politics and they don't want a trillion dollars is not enough money for Elon Musk. You know, his sperm all around all of these petri dishes all over the world making babies so that he can be the world's biggest deadbeat father that treats his existing child, Vivian like she's dead. You know, like just, it's so disgusting that he's so shallow and so petty and so these, these people are super duper dangerous. But Europe needs to stand up. I agree to this regime. I feel more aligned with their democratic principles. I, I don't want recognize anything that these people are doing as being American. I, I'm appalled from the moment that man descended on the escalator to what he's actively doing now. And it's going to take the democracies of democracies of the world standing up to this feces throwing toddler that's running the United States of America and all of these horrific men and women surrounding him that go along with this moral depravity. All right, listeners, raise your hand if you've been putting off a dental cleaning, an annual checkup, or honestly, any kind of doctor's appointment at all. I have this fear of the dentist. Well, I moved to New York and I'm like, how am I going to even find the right dentist? So that helped me prolong it more. But you all know my favorite app is ZocDoc. I got on ZocDoc and I was able to find a dentist in my neighborhood, takes my insurance and had an appointment available by the end of the week so that I could get my teeth cleaned and conquer my fear of going to the dentist. Listener. Zocdoc is a free app and website that helps you find and book high quality in network doctors so you can find someone you love. We're talking about booking in network appointments with more than 150,000 providers across all 50 states. Listener stop putting off those doctor's appointments and go to Zocdoc.com ihip to find and instantly book a doctor you love today. That's z o c doc.com ihip zocdoc.com ihip we'd like to thank Zocdoc for sponsoring this message.
Saagar Enjeti
It's really stunning when you realize that other countries, European countries, they have health care, they work less, they have happier, like higher happiness scales because they get, you know, a woman has a baby, she's gone for six months to a year, everybody's fine with it. It's, it's so stunning. How we're so egocentric that we think, oh, America does it the best way. But when you look at the data and you look at the lives of people overseas, you realize we're really fucked up. We're really more worried about money and making money and keeping money than we are human beings. And that's a really stunning eye opening thing that I think a lot of people are seeing with the Trump administration. There are a lot of people in this country that don't value human life, that are easily, are easy to be led to demean human people and take joy in it.
Krystal Ball
And it's gross. I want to say something though, before you close it. It's important right now to remember that in 2016, Bernie Sanders was running on this. Yep. The all of the things that we're all realizing now. And I was completely bought into the corporate Democratic platform in 2016. I voted for Hillary Clinton. I believed in the corporate Dem policies. I was somewhat brainwashed on corporate news. It was an error of my, of my thinking, even though I thought at the time I was so evolved politically. And it's really important that we understand that people are evolving politically right now. And so for the really far leftists that heard everything that Pumps just said, said, well, we've been saying this forever. Yes, you have been. And sometimes it takes a long time for that to sink into people. And I will say that people on the far left as we've collaborated, these people aren't just like, I told you we were right. They're like, thank God there is a great awakening happening in the country. And this great awakening waking up to this cancer in America, that we value money over human beings. And a lot of these Christians that preach all this Christianity and all this patriotism and they don't have the moral clarity to stand up against child pedophilia, but they can grift you with their mega church, but they don't have the moral clarity to stand up for a woman who was executed point blank range. They're all full of shit. And we get that. But these Democrats who straddle both sides, they're just as bad, if not worse because it takes such a level of manipulation to keep pitching that. And so I think as we head keep heading into this and this year is going to be tough. It's going to be so hard on all of us when people start to open up their eyes about corporate Democrats. Embrace them. Don't shame them, don't be the word police. Embrace them and build a community to save our country. This is bigger than being right or bigger than dunking on people or bigger than if somebody says homeless instead of unhoused, let all that go and get serious. And if you see somebody online that the gist of them is there, don't go in the comment section and get sanctimonious and police something they said maybe the wrong, not woke enough word. Let all that go and really come together to make us a country of the people, by the people, for the people. And that's why this administration is so hell bent on weakening the United States. Because if they weaken the government, they weaken us. And so it's so important that we allow people an off ramp into this movement of understanding that corporate Democrats have screwed us every bit as much as corporate Republicans have. And so I just, I really, really want us to focus on a sense of community because I think this, we're all struggling pumps and I struggle, you know, like, oh, God, it's so hard to stay on top of the news. And I know y' all are struggling, but I'm glad you're watching us. I'm glad that we're all staying informed.
Saagar Enjeti
Yeah, that's a great point. We've got to band together and put, put aside our slight differences. Worry about that after we save democracy. All right, please like this video and subscribe to our channel. And we will be back with more news.
Episode Title: Trump Threatens Norway with Violence? Insiders Talk of 25th Amendment Are Growing
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: January 19, 2026
In this episode, Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan deliver a sharply critical, comedic take on recent political developments, focusing on Donald Trump’s reported threats against Norway following his Nobel Peace Prize snub, escalating international rhetoric, and the growing whispers about invoking the 25th Amendment. The hosts dissect Trump’s motives, the GOP’s complicity, the Democrats’ ineffectiveness, and America’s standing on the world stage, all while encouraging listeners to unite across the progressive spectrum.
Trump’s Toddler Diplomacy (07:04):
"We cannot give our country to these toddlers who are an absolute laughing stock on the global stage." — Krystal Ball
Economic Fallout Warning (09:55):
"Europe could tank our economy in 24 hours if they wanted to. They could start dumping all of their investments and it would completely us." — Krystal Ball
The Awakening, Solidarity, and Call to Action (17:58, 21:39):
"Embrace them and build a community to save our country." — Krystal Ball
"We've got to band together and put aside our slight differences. Worry about that after we save democracy." — Saagar Enjeti
| Timestamp | Segment Description | |------------|------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:04 | Trump’s anger over Nobel Peace Prize and letter to Norway | | 01:12 | Trump’s repeated calls to Norway; comprehension issues | | 03:57 | Warning: “Nobody is safe under this man. No one.” | | 04:27 | Trump’s wider international threats (Greenland, Canada) | | 06:02 | America’s “whiplash” under Trump; manipulation by advisors | | 10:14 | EU’s response to tariffs, transatlantic tensions | | 14:06 | Viral story: conservative’s awakening to social programs | | 17:58 | Call for leftist unity and acceptance of “political latecomers” | | 21:39 | “Band together after we save democracy” closing sentiment |
The episode is delivered in an urgent, sarcastic, and impassioned style, with recurring humor and exasperation at political absurdities. The hosts use accessible language interwoven with direct, sometimes profane, criticisms of political figures and institutions, aiming to energize and unify listeners who feel disillusioned or overwhelmed.
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