IHIP News: “Trump Wants a Dictatorship and MAGA Calls for Leftist Executions?”
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Air Date: September 15, 2025
Brief Overview
In this episode, deep in a red state, progressive hosts Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan tackle alarming trends in U.S. politics, focusing on escalating extremist rhetoric from the MAGA right, recent events around Charlie Kirk’s murder, Trump’s authoritarian ambitions, and the dangers of demonizing the political left. They reflect on the normalization of violent language from conservative media personalities, the growing threats to democracy, and urge the left to foster coalition-building instead of internal division.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
Trump’s Rhetoric and Fabricated Claims
[00:05 - 01:51]
- The hosts derisively refer to Trump as “Kanks,” poking fun at his perceived cognitive decline.
- Trump’s bizarre claim of “300 million people died last year from drugs” is fact-checked and ridiculed.
- “Where were these 300 million people?” – Host 3 [00:50]
- They discuss Trump’s pattern of making up statistics and touting unsubstantiated achievements (e.g., stopping “seven wars”).
- Concern is raised about the serious erosion of democracy by the MAGA movement using high-profile events (like Charlie Kirk’s murder) to attack civil liberties.
- Trump’s hostility toward American citizens is highlighted:
- “I’ve never in my lifetime heard an American president that just consistently and constantly shit talks the American citizens the way this man does.” – Host 2 [01:31]
Demonizing the Left & Weaponized Investigations
[01:51 - 02:30]
- Trump and MAGA are accused of scapegoating the left, calling them agitators and “scum,” and associating them with flag burning and unpatriotic acts.
- “The problem is on the left...the agitators, you look at the scum that speaks so badly of our country. The American flag burnings all over the place. That’s the left.” – Trump clip [01:51]
- Discussion on Trump’s hints at ongoing investigations into liberal figures, alluding strongly to George Soros.
- Hypocrisy is noted: while the right proudly waves “Don’t Tread on Me” flags, they ignore actual treading on civil liberties.
- Hosts recall seeing Nazi and Confederate flags at January 6th, challenging the right’s self-image of patriotism.
Manipulation of Violent Narratives & Charlie Kirk’s Death
[02:30 - 05:29]
- The right’s use of Charlie Kirk’s murder as propaganda against the left is dissected.
- Charlie Kirk’s own call for the “death penalty against Joe Biden” is condemned.
- Hosts argue Fox News would amplify the shooter’s leftist leanings if any existed – they accuse right-wing media of constructing convenient narratives:
- “They are gaslighting Americans that don’t follow the everyday news.” – Host 2 [03:46]
- Highlight the reality of “white-on-white crime,” underlying the hypocrisy in coverage.
- The lack of mainstream pushback is seen as emboldening right-wing violence.
- “They do not want peace, they want to take up guns and start a civil war...start incarcerating Democrats...incarcerating any type of speech that is not pro-Trump.” – Host 3 [04:50]
Erosion of Free Speech and Oligarchic Agendas
[05:29 - 07:32]
- Elon Musk is criticized for fueling extremist conspiracy theories via social media.
- “The world’s richest man has been on a psychotic ketamine bender...claiming that there are transgender terror cells in Utah that have been unlocked and unleashed.” – Host 2 [05:52]
- Hosts highlight the irony: those purporting to be “free speech absolutists” really want to control narratives and use platforms for propaganda, not genuine free speech.
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Far-Right Rhetoric: Direct Calls for Dictatorship and Violence
[08:33 - 10:54]
- The hosts play a chilling three-year-old compilation from right-wing sources (via Right Wing Watch), advocating for:
- “Total dictator Trump”
- Suspending laws, dismissing legislatures, executing political enemies
- Military tribunals and firing squads for “traitors”
- Modern militias targeting “commies”
- Notable quotes from the right-wing extremists (audio clip):
- “Fuck democracy. I want to see antifa members hanging from gallows and Trump ties.” [08:42]
- “My goal is to break American democracy.” [09:12]
- “People need to be tried, convicted and executed for treason.” [09:20]
- “If for any reason the President decides to put out the tweet that says, my fellow Americans, my fellow 2A loving Americans, it’s time to take up arms against these assholes, you are all fucked in under an hour.” [10:17]
- Hosts stress that these voices are not fringe but part of the MAGA “big tent,” and have only grown louder and more emboldened.
- Host 2 laments Democratic failures in directly spotlighting these dangers to broader audiences.
The Real Beneficiaries of MAGA Authoritarianism
[11:48 - 12:24]
- Host 3 stresses that if Trump or an autocratic system takes hold, the true winners will be oligarchs (Peter Thiel, Elon Musk) and not the working-class supporters or religious zealots:
- “He doesn’t want to be your dictator. He wants the oligarchs, he wants the money...when this whole thing, if Trump gets his way, it would not be these working class people and pastors in power. It’s going to be the Peter Thiel's, Elon Musk, the oligarchy...”
Message to the Progressive Left: Build Coalitions, Not Purity Wars
[12:24 - END]
- Celebrates NY Governor Kathy Hochul’s endorsement of Zoron Mamdani, a left-wing candidate.
- Urges the left not to nitpick establishment figures' “late” progressivism, but to embrace coalition-building:
- “On the left, when somebody arrives at the party, accept them and embrace it and build coalitions. And don’t get sanctimonious on this…” – Host 2 [13:35]
- Warns of the contrast with red states governed by hard-right leaders like Kevin Stitt, who wield religion to justify regressive policies and enrich elites.
- Stresses the catastrophic social outcomes under right-wing state governments: worst-in-nation ratings for women, education, healthcare, poverty, and crime.
- Final note: forming coalitions is critical to prevent the “white supremacist Christian nationalists” from consolidating power.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “I’ve never in my lifetime heard an American president that just consistently and constantly shit talks the American citizens the way this man does.” – Host 2 [01:31]
- “The problem is on the left...the agitators, you look at the scum that speaks so badly of our country. The American flag burnings all over the place. That’s the left.” – Trump clip [01:51]
- “They are gaslighting Americans that don’t follow the everyday news.” – Host 2 [03:46]
- “They do not want peace, they want to take up guns and start a civil war...start incarcerating Democrats and any type of speech that is not pro-Trump.” – Host 3 [04:50]
- “Fuck democracy. I want to see antifa members hanging from gallows and Trump ties.” – Far-right extremist (audio clip) [08:42]
- “My goal is to break American democracy.” – Far-right extremist (audio clip) [09:12]
- “He doesn’t want to be your dictator. He wants the oligarchs, he wants the money…” – Host 3 [12:09]
- “On the left, when somebody arrives at the party, accept them and embrace it and build coalitions. And don’t get sanctimonious on this…” – Host 2 [13:35]
Timestamps for Important Segments
- 00:05 – Hosts lampoon Trump’s lies, cognitive decline, and fabricated statistics on drug deaths
- 01:51 – Trump’s anti-left scapegoating, talk of investigations, “flag burning” narrative
- 02:30 – Critique of right-wing hypocrisy, Confederate/Nazi flags at January 6th, Joe Biden imagery
- 03:46 – Right-wing calls for violence, manipulation after Charlie Kirk’s murder
- 05:29 – Elon Musk’s inflammatory tweets, free speech hypocrisy
- 08:33 – Montage of right-wing extremists advocating dictatorship and executions
- 11:48 – Oligarchy as the true beneficiary of MAGA authoritarianism
- 12:24 – Case for big-tent coalition-building among progressives
Overall Tone & Takeaways
The episode blends biting sarcasm, anger, and advocacy. Welch and Sullivan underscore the danger of normalizing violence and authoritarian language, urging the left to respond both strategically and with coalition-mindedness. They warn that the true threat comes not from isolated extremists but from their increasing influence within mainstream politics—and that the only effective counter is solidarity and broad participation, not ideological purity.