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Foreign. A lot of sad, sad news coming out of so many places. Australia, Brown University. And then everybody has probably heard about Rob Reiner and his wife being murdered in their home. Kylie put up the headline, Rob Reiner's son is arrested. Gruesome murders shock Hollywood. I can't even read that the parents were stabbed. And Trump, of course, has to chime in on all of this. Presidents usually do chime in on things like this. But let's listen to what Kings had to say. A very sad thing happened last night in Hollywood. Rob Reiner, a tortured and struggling but once very talented movie director and comedy star, has passed away together with his wife Michelle, reportedly due to the anger he caused others through his massive, unyielding and incurable affliction with a mind crippling disease known as Trump Derangement Syndrome, sometimes referred to as tds. He was known to have driven people crazy by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump. With his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump administration surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness. And with the golden age of America upon us, perhaps like never before, may Rob and Michelle rest in peace. Okay, that is so psychotic. I can't even wrap my head around how narcissistically psychotic this man is.
Co-host
Pumps he made someone's death murder about himself. He had to bring himself into it. And for him to say Rob Reiner struggling in all this. Rob Reiner called balls and strikes with Trump and was not scared or intimidated by Trump. And this, this is so despicable and tells you exactly who the problem is with demeaning people, rhetoric, all that, like, you cannot be the President of the United States and act like this. It's just so embarrassing.
Host
So one thing that I think we need to add is, is the son was struggling from addiction. And I think in 2015, Rob Reiner and the sun made a documentary about addiction. And so this family is really probably the son had relapsed. I'm, that's just, I'm deducing this. But some Republicans have come out against Kanks's psychotic truth social post. Kylie, why don't you pop up Marjorie Taylor Greene's response. Marge says Rob Reiner and his wife were tragically killed at the hands of their own son, who reportedly had drug addiction and other issues. And the remaining children are left in serious mourning and heartbreak. This is a family tragedy, not about politics or political enemies. Many families deal with a family member with a drug addiction and mental health issues. It's incredibly difficult and should be met with empathy, especially when it ends in murder. So here's Marjorie Taylor Greene yet again, outflanking people, calling out this psychosis of this dementia riddled, sociopathic president that we have sadly. And other Republicans are also piling on. Kylie, put up some more of these. Thomas Massey said, regardless of how you felt about Rob Reiner, this is inappropriate and disrespectful discourse about a man who was just brutally murdered. I guess my elected GOP colleagues, the vp, the White House staff will just ignore it because they're afraid I challenge anyone to defend it. Now, this is a really interesting response and it's something that pumps and I speak to quite often. You can have a single solitary nut, which we have in Kanks, the President of the United States, but he's surrounded by people that just rubber stamp and go along with all of his psychotic breaks and meltdowns. And Thomas Massie, I find myself very strange bedfellows with right now because he's exactly right. Will Moses, Mike Grinder Johnson, who's tied his ticks with Jesus Christ, is he going to speak out against this is smoke. Little smokey eye sociopath. The failed drag queen J.D. vance? No. Stephen Miller, of course not. So when you think about the Trump does this and everyone around him just says, yeah, that's great, keep doing it. You're doing a great job, buddy. Golden age of America. I just keep thinking, good God, we are so screwed.
Co-host
Yeah. I mean, when you think about all the times that Mike Johnson has been asked a question and he says, I don't know, I didn't see it. So are we just going to get just a complete wrath of senators and congressmen that don't know or didn't see it? Like, it's your job to know. That's your job. You're third in line to the presidency. And you know, you hear about people as they get older. Mental illness is progressive, it continues and it's. He, he's decompensating. I, I know that's a medical term and I'm not medical, but this Kylie said when this first came out, she said, I'm mad. I still get shocked by how depraved he is. Like this to me, even for him, who I find to be the most despicable leader of. I mean, it's just, it's beyond the pale, even for Trump. And that is such a low bar.
Host
See, I disagree. I. This is right on course with who he has shown me he has been from the very beginning. This is the type of person Rob Reiner scratched the surface and once you get behind this toxic masculinity that he tries to exert and that all of these sycophants around him are like, oh, yeah, you're a macho guy. Ymca, listen to your opera. Decorate the Oval Office. Their weird, distorted version of masculinity behind it is just profound boiling insecurity. And how many times have we seen him throw feces on true social. It's all the time. I just, this is just another day in this country where he does crazy, depraved. Remember when he did that to Megyn Kelly? And now what does she do? She goes and shills for him every single day on her podcast. And so, but these fissures in the, in the Republican base, it's that, that's interesting to me because they're starting to show a little bit of resistance now. He was in the Oval Office just a few moments ago and they asked him if he stands by this tweet and here's what he said. A number of Republicans have denounced your statement on true social after the murder of Rob Reiner. Do you stand by that post?
Guest
Well, I wasn't a fan of his at all. He was a deranged person as far as Trump is concerned. He said he liked. He knew it was false. In fact, it's the exact opposite that I was a friend of Russia, controlled by Russia. You know, it was the Russia hoax. He was one of the people behind it. I think he hurt himself in career wise. He became like a deranged person. Trump derangement syndrome. So I was not a fan of Rob Reiner at all in any way, shape or form. I thought he was very bad for our country. Yeah.
Host
Mr. President, Leader Thune doesn't seem.
Co-host
It's unbelievable. He doubles down. I knew he would double down. I knew he'd get asked about it. I knew he would double down. He never, ever says, you know, I thought about it and that was inappropriate. I probably should walk that back or. No, he just doubles the down. And I just have to say I found the language of he said and he knew it wasn't true. In fact, it's the opposite that I'm a friend of Russia or controlled by Russia. Dude, you don't. Nobody, nobody has to be deranged to know that. They have to be able to look at the facts. But I just thought that was interesting the way he, he knows it wasn't true. And it's quite the opposite. In fact, I just thought his language was weird.
Host
But no, he, he always talks like that, though. Pumps it's, you know, and everybody knows this or that. Actually, what he always is, it's such a tell. Everything he does is always covering up his profound insecurity. And here's the thing. If this whole idea that if he's surrounded by more loyalists would fix him, then this term would be better than Trump 1.0. But in fact, what is true is when you have a sick psycho piggy boy pudding boy Trump, and you surround yourself with even sicker people, you have a worse situation. Everybody is placating to this man's worst impulses. Having yes men around you and people that tell you you're great all the time is the worst thing for you. I mean, this guy is the absolute worst. The damage to our country is unbelievable. But pumps. This is really interesting. Between the time that he sent out the Truth social tweet and the time that the press followed up in the Oval, Kylie discovered on Twitter that Elon Musk was running interference via Grok. So he gave Grok another lobotomy and had Grok out on Twitter fact checking the True Social tweet saying that it wasn't real. And so here's for those that are listening, it says, here's a screenshot of Trump's insane, psychotic, almost victory dance on Rob Reiner's murdered grave and his wife's grade while the bodies are still warm. Somebody asked Grok, is this real? Grok goes in and says, no, that screenshot appears to be fabricated. I couldn't find any such post on Trump's X account or mentions of it in recent news. While Rob Reiner and his wife were tragically found dead on December 14, 2025, there's no evidence Trump comment on it in this way. And then over here, Gro says upon checking the provided True Social link, the post doesn't exist. I also reviews reviewed Trump's recent posts on True Social and X. None match the screenshot. News reports confirm blah, blah, blah. This seems fabricated. So then Kylie went immediately after Gro got a lobotomy from Musk, Kylie goes immediately back to True Social and. And it exists. And then after the lobotomized Grock starts trying to cover for kinks, he goes into the Oval and triples down on this thing. And so you've got these, you know, Elon Musk, I mean, oh my God, this man. If I have to hear one more interview of him grandstanding about all this shit that he knows nothing about. Number one, he's painfully boring. Number two, he's not that great. Number three, how insecure are you that you have to have an AI robot and you have to lobotomize it whenever you want to change the truth. Like, did you know Pumps? He had Grok lobotomized so bad that people were asking Grok who is a better physical specimen, LeBron James or Elon Musk? And Grok picked Elon Musk. LeBron James. I mean, like, like what Argue? Arguably the best basketball player ever. A total phenom. I mean, you could go down the rabbit hole. Is Jordan better? Is LeBron better? My so do this all the time. But nonetheless, he's a total physical specimen. And then you've got chunk boy on ketamine and you. Grok has been so lobotomized that it's saying that Elon Musk. And so it's just these men and their fragile egos yet.
Co-host
Fragile.
Host
Here's what's fascinating to me. Pups did these other. I guess it is an insecure man. When they see an Elon Musk or they see a Trump, they think, oh, yeah, that's masculinity. These guys are tough. Like, I, I don't know. It's, it's so bizarre.
Co-host
I, I don't know. I would think that probably it's the worship of the money and the power that, you know, Elon Musk can do whatever he wants because he's so rich and he's so powerful. So I'm gonna like him anyway. I, I can't. I really would be hard pressed to believe that there is a man out there that looks at Elon Musk or Donald Trump and says, right there, just physically right there is the, is the physique. It's everything I want in Lux. I would think it would have to be the other stuff. I just can't even like a dumb triple trumper. I don't think they could think, oh, my God, that's my ideal look.
Host
I think they do think it is. I, I, there's something. Yes. Because time and time again, they're always returning to this really weird, distorted form of, of masculinity with these men. And I think that they just get so blurry with their. It has to be wrapped up in money, you know, and, and they have blinders. Oh, it's just so insane. All right, Kylie, what else do we have to review? A lot of people on socials are wanting to share Rob Reiner's response on Pierce Morgan right after Charlie Kirk's assassination just to show the duality between these two. So I can cue that up.
Co-host
That'd be great.
Guest
First heard about the murder of Charlie Kirk.
Host
What was your immediate gut reaction to it?
Guest
Well, horror, Absolute horror. And I unfortunately saw the video of it, and it's, it's in this, it's beyond belief what happened to him, and that should never happen to anybody. I don't care what your political beliefs are. That's not acceptable. That's not a solution to, to solving problems. And I felt like what his wife said at the service, that the memorial they had was exactly right. And totally, I believe, you know, I'm Jewish, but I, I believe in the teachings of Jesus and I believe in doing to others, and I believe in forgiveness. And what she said to me was beautiful and absolutely, you know, she, she forgave his, his assassin. And I think that that is admirable.
Host
Man. What a sweet man.
Co-host
Yeah. And you think about, he's been in our life like my life, because I'm.
Host
You know, over 50, significantly older than me.
Co-host
You know, he's been around forever. He was an actor and then he was, I mean, he was just in everything. But this kind of reminded me of, I was looking on the response because I was waiting for, for Republicans to come out in mass against this. Haha. But I saw so many tweets of people saying, you know, the left tries, you know, the left was so ugly about Charlie Kirk's death, which they, you know, in isolation, but not in leadership. But, you know, the right, they handle things better. And then Trump comes out with this and nobody thinks, I mean, nobody that I saw, and maybe they're just not going to do it on Twitter. But they don't say, that's not cool. Like, you can't act that way. You can't try to blame everything on somebody else and then be worse than what you're saying they're doing. But then it goes to the split screen of these people do not live in reality. They think that, you know, Epstein's a hoax. The economy, what's it. That's a hoax. You know, I mean, it's like, can they be reached in reality? My guess is maybe not the 30, but there's got to be some people that saw this that were like, geez, Louise.
Host
Well, I think that we all know and we've known for a very long time from other Republicans. And now Marjorie Taylor Greene is saying the same thing. They all talk about shouting behind his back and they have forever. They're just so cowardly. They don't, they don't act on it. So you, that's why you have mass Resignations. Right now you have little Moses, Mike Grinder Johnson, who just is completely, I mean, he has such a powerful job and he does nothing and, you know, and uses his faith to try to provide cover for himself and Christian signal to other people. And this whole thing with Rob Reiner and his son is so it's about addiction. The whole thing is probably about addiction and mental illness. The thing about Charlie Kirk dying is about gun violence. When you think about that, there's a link between Charlie Kirk's death and the shootings that just happened at Brown University. And it is gun violence on campuses. And it's just really, really sad that we have these problems and there are very distinct, verifiable, objective causes for them. And the government does not jump on what those causes are and say, oh, we're helpers, we're here to, to, to navigate and try to prevent. As government, we want to keep you safe and we want to prevent these things from happening again. And instead what you have now is we have an FBI who wants to fit the narrative of a shooter being a particular kind of person. Like we did an episode earlier today on the Australian shootings. I mean, horrible, horrible stuff. And there was this brave immigrant who runs a fruit stand, Muslim, and he went and he tackled the shooter, saved probably countless of lives. And you know, they didn't want it. It's against their narrative that this Muslim did this. And they just. There's so many people that just want to divide and keep us in groups. And this thing with Rob Reiner, I hate to say it, but Marjorie Taylor Greene's right about that. Addiction plagues so many families and it rips families apart. It happens to MAGA people, it happens to Democrats, it happens to independence, it happens to everybody. And the President who had a brother who was, you know, Mary Trump's dad, who was a horrible alcoholic. And you know, this is not something that he's ever going to come out and speak about addiction. This is something when Hunter Biden, you know, they exploited and you know there's never will. Hunter Biden is now in recovery. You know, everything's just this game. And when it comes to these shootings, it's just horribly sad that nobody in Charlie Kirk's orbit, not one person will say, we've got to do something about gun violence. We need to do something. Bill Clinton had done a lot of gun restrictions on semi automatic weapon weapons. George W. Bush came in, reversed them. And gun violence has increased by almost 300% since that reversal. And so it's just, it's just depressing.
Co-host
And it's really depressing. And it's, it's sad. I, I always go back to this, and I think it's because I have young adults, children, but it's like their whole lives, this lack of decency, this lack of empathy has been on display and lauded by half the country. And it's like, that is not what a leader looks like. That is not what a leader sounds like. And I look to all these Christian people that lay their hands on him and they talk in tongues. Where's their response? We need better from our president.
Host
When you hear not the same people.
Co-host
In death, but they're never gonna do it because they don't give a. It's.
Host
You know what I think pumps like. I watched a lot of the Erica Kirk CBS thing, and you listen to all these people that are in, like, you know, the, when they discuss the Charlie Kirk thing, they don't discuss gun violence because in their world, it's, it, he. It's a spiritual warfare thing. They think that the evil forces killed Charlie. The gun is irrelevant. In their mind, they think, oh, these demonic leftist Democrats kill Charlie. And they think they're struggling in this imaginary spiritual warfare thing. And when you see Erica Kirk speaking on television in these interviews, to me, and I'm not a psychologist or psychiatrist, but to me it seems like she's suffering from religious psychosis. She just does not. It. Something is wrong. Something is clearly wrong there. Now, she could be grieving and under a lot of stress and all of these things, and I have empathy for her. But the, the religious psychosis surrounding the. This and the links to Israel, and it's just, it's all so incredibly strange. But here's something we need to point out, too. Trump doesn't care that Rob Reiner was killed, but he also didn't care that Charlie Kirk was killed. They asked him on the tarmac when he got off of Marine One, and he was like, somebody's like, I know Charlie Kirk was like a son to you. Are you. How are you holding up? He's like, I'm good. Did you see these bulldozer here? We're about to start my ballroom. I mean, he, this is. Man has no empathy. And then when you think about that, a president has zero empathy. We elected a psychopath.
Co-host
Absolutely.
Host
And then the people that are surrounding him are worse.
Co-host
Yeah, they're worse. Like, I'm, I would. I'm going to be very interested for about three things. Number one, next time Caroline KKK Levitt comes out, how does she spin this? Well, he did have Trump derangement syndrome. I'm interested to see if there's any fallout for media. Like, is Fox News going to say, you know, this was inappropriate. You know, we sat up here and all we did is browbeat people, that the left was responsible for this. And then. And, you know, even if they say President Trump did this because he was, you know, taunted by the left or something, or are they just going to glaze over it like it never happened? And then the third thing I want to know is Moses, Mike, what's Moses gonna say? He didn't see it? Is he even going to step into. I disagree with what he said, or they all just going to double down on it? I just. I'm interested in those things.
Host
I think, number one, I don't think Fox will cover it.
Co-host
I think it's just never happened.
Host
Yeah, I don't think they're going to cover it. I think little. Our little grinder, he is going to say, I don't know. I haven't. I haven't had time to look at that yet. Who was the third? Caroline Levitt. She's. She's a psychopath. She'll double down on it. I mean, that's what she always does. Because he likes. What does he say? She's got the lips like a. Yeah, I think she'll. She likes to get. She likes to be the show pony and, you know, and. And I think she gets all sorts of praise from him for going out there, but, oh, my God, there's just a lot of really sad things. My heart goes out to all of the people in Australia, a beautiful community, Jewish people, the immigrant community, all of the people hurting there. They haven't had any gun violence. And I think 30 years, they're not used to this. I think about these two kids at Brown University and all the injured kids and the two kids that won't make it home for Christmas break, and just how tragic and sad that is. And then I think about Rob Reiner and his wife, who love their son unconditionally, and they've fallen prey to addiction, and addiction is such a devastating, devastating disease for families. And I just hope that we can all, you know, continue to build a community. And we have to really motivate each other, to motivate our friends and our communities to get out in these midterms. And this is the fight of our generation, and we must meet it and meet it head on. We shouldn't be scared. We never obey in advance. These people do not have the moral high ground. These are bottom feeders and we will at some point get them out of our White House and they will cease ruling our country. I just it it has to happen. The they do not have as much power as they say. And just as an aside, boycott CBS News and everything to do with CBS News. CBS News is nothing without us. Nothing. And we need to keep beating that drum. Do not do anything anything to do with CBS News. We need to completely dismantle them. They have overnight within 24 hours turned into a huge propaganda channel that is here to shill for this fascist regime and for a war criminal, Benjamin Netanyahu. And it's just complete and utter. Thank you all so much for tuning in to our independent news Channel. We really appreciate you all and we'll be back later with more news. VRBO helps you swap gift wrap time for quality time. Go to VRBO now and book a last minute week long stay and save over $390 this holiday season. Book your next vacation rental home on VRBO. Average savings $396 select homes only.
Podcast: IHIP News
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: December 15, 2025
In this emotionally charged and darkly comedic episode, Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan react to former President Donald Trump’s controversial Truth Social post following the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife. The hosts dissect Trump’s response, GOP reactions, the role of addiction and mental health in the tragedy, and broader issues of political decency and leadership. They also contrast public and private figures’ responses to tragedies, discuss the role of social media disinformation (with a side-eyed look at Elon Musk’s Grok), and lament the pervasive lack of empathy at the highest levels of power.
“He made someone’s death murder about himself.”
— Angie [01:43]
“You cannot be the President of the United States and act like this. It’s just so embarrassing.”
— Jennifer [02:05]
“This is a family tragedy, not about politics or political enemies. …should be met with empathy, especially when it ends in murder.”
— Marjorie Taylor Greene (read by Jennifer) [02:23]
“He’s decompensating. …he, he’s decompensating.”
— Angie [05:00]
“Everything he does is always covering up his profound insecurity.”
— Jennifer [08:34]
“How insecure are you that you have to have an AI robot and you have to lobotomize it whenever you want to change the truth?”
— Jennifer [10:30]
“That is not what a leader looks like. That is not what a leader sounds like… We need better from our president.”
— Angie [19:44]
“We elected a psychopath.”
— Jennifer [22:02]
The hosts’ trademark blend of dark humor, righteous indignation, and Southern candor is evident throughout, with frequent asides and biting sarcasm. They speak candidly about their disgust with Trump’s behavior, their frustration with political hypocrisy, and their hope for meaningful civic engagement.
This episode is essential listening for those interested in the intersection of politics, morality, and media in contemporary America—especially anyone seeking catharsis, sharp commentary, and a progressive perspective on the day’s most outrageous headlines.