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- [00:06]
Host 1
The murdering sociopathic fascists are throwing feces all over the White House right now because they shot innocent Americans. And it turns out the American public doesn't like that. And their leader, Donald Trump, is all about optics. He doesn't care about human life. Oh, he does one because her parents were Trumpers. But he cares about the optics. And this administration is getting ripped by like even the New York Post editorial board. And so of course, the feces throwing has begun. It's the blame game. And number one on the list is we've got to fire Christy Noem. But interestingly, when they had a little pow wow in the Oval, Stephen Miller was sidelined from the powwow. The Daily Beast is reporting Stephen Miller is being sidelined after he was reportedly shut out of a closed door White House meeting following the killing of Alex Preddy and then put up the next one K. Kylie. Christy Gnome. Mark Caputo tweets, the man behind the Minnesota massacre misinformation is Stephen Miller Gnome. Christy Gnome, the puppy killer is telling others she feels hung out to dry and was just following White House direction. The officers directly involved in the shooting all shut up and got lawyers real quick. So there wasn't a lot of information. One sources briefed on the statement said under Miller's direction. This is a source, media source of Axios. DHS officials began assembling a statement based on information from others on scene who noted that Pretty had a firearm. Stephen heard gun Stephen Miller and knew what the narrative would be. Pretty came up to quote, massacre cops. A source briefed on the process of assembling the press statement said, okay, so here's what you got. Heads are going to roll. So obviously Kristyn ums a nut, narcissist, not that likable and not that helpful. Like, so they're like, okay, she's all about her blowouts and costume changes, so let's kick her to the curb. And she's like, listen up, mfers, I did exactly what Stephen Miller told me to do. Well, Stephen Miller is useful to Trump because he does all the heavy lifting on policy that Trump's not interested in at all. All the executive orders, all that stuff. Stephen Miller does all that stuff and Trump doesn't care that it's depraved. So I think this is a really interesting development because it sounds like if Kristi Noem goes down, she says, stephen, I'm bringing you down with me.
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Host 2
Which is would make me so happy. The thing about it is, is when you hear Greg Bevino talk and Kristi noem talk. It was immediately clear they were talking off of the same set of guidelines. No one is surprised that Stephen Miller is behind the most sadistic of this behavior. It has been said from jump he runs the Justice Department. Pam Bondi is a figurehead. Kristi Noem is a figurehead. For Stephen Miller. It's his immigration policies, he's trying to act, the 3,000 a day, all of those things. What I find so interesting about this is that Kristi Noem says, I feel hung out to dry. No, look at Trump from the start of his life to now. He passes the buck, he throws people under the bus. You're not as important as Stephen Miller. So her feeling out to dry, like it's a shock. This day was going to come no matter what.
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Host 1
Yeah. And this is interesting. Last night, Katie Miller started tweeting and I'm going to read this to you. She says Miller said the Minnesota operations didn't follow the guidelines established by the White House in the aftermath of January 7th shooting of another Minneapolis demonstrator, Renee Good. Specifically, Miller said, so basically, she is tweeting out an article to do damage control on Stephen. So they know like, oh, yeah, they know like, if Christy throws us under the bus, we're fucked. Like, they know this. And so Axios, here's more of that reporting. Put this up. Christy Noem's language that Alex Preddy wanted to massacre federal agents was dictated to nome in her department by a man most responsible for the controversial operation, Stephen Miller. So I want to make. Take a pause here to, to note and to memorialize that typically you do not, in law enforcement or government, you do not make such a claim like that he was there to massacre law enforcement.
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Host 2
You, you.
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Host 1
This is such a rookie move. But more importantly, Stephen Miller is so out of step with the evolution of what's happened since his boss got reelected. Now, this shit hits hard in the MAGA base, who now I guess is anti second amendment. But the fact that he started making these extraordinary claims and even the most corporate of corporate news and the most conservative of newspapers, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, called bullshit on all of this because they all saw the videos is really stunning. But we should never normalize what these Nazis, Stephen Miller, Kristi Noem, little Katie Miller, trying to provide cover for him. What they're doing is they are murdering the bravest among us, the best among us, that are standing up for the marginalized. Like, these are white people that use their privilege to prop up immigrants. And they felt safe because typically white folk in America have been safe from gun violence, from law enforcement. Now black Americans have not. But you can see as the whole thing unfolds, the last thing they're thinking is, they're going to get shot. And so Stephen Miller has to spin this that somehow they're domestic terrorists and they were going to massacre. And nobody's buying it. Nobody's buying it. So he's like, okay, let's throw Kristi Noeman her bus. And she's like, you go down, I go down.
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Host 2
You know, when I. When we were looking at that just now, it reminded me of, remember when Charlie was murdered? And you have sources within the FBI saying the first thing Dan Bongino and Cash Patel did was what were they going to post on social media? And it goes back to something you said earlier in this episode. Trump doesn't give a shit about human lives. He doesn't give a shit about policy, but he does care about optics. And so Stephen Miller. It was not, we need to take hold and figure out why DHS officers are killing people. It was, how can we spin it on social media? Because Trump sees the optics, and that is a sad state of affairs. And nobody's surprised. Nobody is surprised that Kristi. No. Who shoots her dog in her goat.
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Host 1
Is going to do exactly for justice for the goat. We always forget the goat.
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Host 2
We always talk about the puppy. Cricket, Rip. But where's the goat? But he. Stephen Miller is so unlikable. He's so unpopular. Even the MAGA people in my life are like, he's so horrible. He's so gross. And it's like, Trump just woke up and he's, you know, being marionetted by this guy that gives Trump such a pass. But optics are what matters in this administration. And Trump's mad because the optics are so bad. Again, like you said, he doesn't give a shit about the dead people.
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Host 1
All right, let me throw this in here. So there, obviously, there's Senator Thom Tillis, Republican, a lot of people. This is getting some bipartisan, you know, tension and a lot of press around this, that people need to be held accountable for this. And so when you think about Trump being the strongman and, you know, he's building his ballroom, the bunker, all this stuff, talking about running for another term. He has no intention of leaving the White House. The successors are younger and they're chomping at the bit. Right? So I'm wondering, you know, Stephen Miller is going to do whatever he can do to try to manipulate him to stay in the White House. But I wonder if any successors around him. Rubio, J.D. vance. I don't think Trump likes J.D. vance as much. I think he prefers Rubio. I wonder if any of them will throw Stephen Miller under the bus, because Stephen Miller seems to have Trump's ear more than any, any other person. Lindsay Graham was on Twitter yesterday defending Stephen Miller. I mean, so, yeah, I mean, which is a whole psychological case study that we can do when we're not fighting fascism. But I just want to keep a watch on that. Like, because it's, there's no way all these people are friends. You know, there's so much backstabbing and that goes on in that administration. So let's just kind of keep it, keep a watch on this. Now listen, listener, this is juicy, but I presented in a way that's juicy. So we can kind of have some girl talk about it and like, what's going on with these crazy Nazis. But the big statement here is they're Nazis and they shot. They shot. And they've shot more than just those two people. A lot of people have died in ICE custody. All the people from Alligator Alcatraz are missing. I could start talking about this right now. We would never even hit all of the things that they're doing. So here are just a few things that I saw that I wanted to share. Senator Ossoff had a report chronicling the horrific conditions for mothers and ICE babies. Pop this up, Kylie. The Ossoff report finds widespread allegations of abuse in DHS detainment, including DHS threatening to take babies away from new mothers if they did not sign a voluntary departure form. And this commenter says demonic. And then here's just a guy from France. This was in huffed HuffPost France. This is the coverage we're getting abroad right now who is trying to get into the United States. And Alex Taylor posts horrific experience of an MBA Frenchman in an ICE migrant center because his visa was delayed. Sleeping on the floor in a cell with 80 people, lights on, non stop, handcuffed and ankles chained, referred to by a number. He lost seven kilos in a month. Their aim is simply to break you to pieces. And there's a picture of this French man. And in this post they put boycott the World Cup. So this is in the French press, you guys. Of a French person who comes to the United States and is thrown in a cell with 80 other people and starved out and shackled like. And then we're like, we're the shiny city on the hill. We're democracy. This is unbelievable. Using somebody's baby as Leverage to get them to sign something. Somebody whose visa is delayed. You're locking them up for 80 days and barely feeding them sleep deprivation. And then there's this final one. And I'll get your take on it. Pumps amaz and dies in ICE custody. Kylie popped this up. Another death in ICE custody. Still no answers, no acknowledgment, no accountability. Too many people are losing their lives. Close the camps. And then here's the report. 41 year old Haitian man dies just one day after entering ICE custody at Newark's Delaney Hall. 41 years old black man dead within 24 hours. And I mean, the only thing this man's done wrong is being black. In America. The Frenchman, you know, got out and got to get back to France, probably because he's white. Their job is to break you. And they simply do not care about the deaths or the torture. And more than anything, you guys, Trump's friends. The private prison industry complex is making billions off of this, billions off of incarcerating and torturing people. There was a CEO of one of these companies that said, we need to think about this, like Amazon moving bodies through these prisons like Jeff Bezos does packages. So it's not just Miller, there's a whole network, just like there was in Nazi Germany, of apologists and people that go along with this shit and okay it. And I say to France, don't do it. Boycott the World cup, do not come here. It. It's a shit show. It is an absolute shit show.
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Host 2
You know when you were reading that in the description of the ICE facility, Kristi Noem standing at seacot in front of that cell, that's what hit my brain. Like she went down there, saw how deplorable the conditions were, how it dehumanized people and how cruel it was. And she came back and said, that's what I want. I mean, these are not people with normal empathy. I mean, obviously that's master of the obvious. Thank you so much. But it is, it is so stunning. In the United States of America, you have media outlets, Fox, other right wing that are defending the killing of an American citizen. They're tying themselves up in knots. They're, you know, no Second Amendment. Yes, we want the second. All those things. When they defended Kyle Rittenhouse with the gun situation, they are demonizing these people, these American citizens they have dehumanized and treated so cruelly. Immigrants, they were throwing tear grass at a preschool. You cannot defend these people. It is indefensible. And if you are defending these people, the problem Is you. And I do see the polling. You know, he's underwater on all this. He ought to be in prison. Stephen Miller needs to be in prison. Christy, no, don't impeach her. Throw her ass in jail. Greg Bevino saying, these are crimes, they are committing criminal acts. And anybody that is sitting there saying, oh, well, you know, we just need reform and this and that, it's like you're not getting it. You're not understanding. You're not watching the video like we are. It is disgusting. It is chilling. It is 1930s Germany all over again. And we're sitting here sounding the alarm and so many people are not getting hearing it. And it makes me want to scream.
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Host 1
Yes. And I just do want to add, because it's really important that on black Twitter right now and in black circles, they say, can you believe when you hear white people say, can you believe this is happening in the United States of America? So the dehumanization that's going on is just now impacting white people. And this has been going on this whole time in this entire country towards specifically black people. And, you know, now they're focused on immigrants. Well, as well, that man that died, you know, two immigrant, two migrants in detention, one French, one Haitian. Guess who lives the white French guy. And so the dehumanization of black people has been an American problem. And it goes back to the moral problem of if you leave somebody vulnerable, you leave everybody vulnerable. And so in leaving our black population vulnerable and allowing police to shoot them and then blaming them for, you know, don't resist when they're clearly not resisting. And all of the over policing, instead of enriching these communities, the dehumanization of the black community, in my mind, facilitated and incubated this moment because for them, the government's always been fascist liars.
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Host 2
Right?
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Host 1
Two different, you know, look at the cocaine versus crack cocaine sentencing disparities. Crack cocaine used by black people, cocaine used by white people. And look at the federal sentencing guidelines of those two things. And so I just think that we have to always acknowledge that, because I, I think white people have got to wake up and acknowledge that because there's nobody that can organize and help beat this and make progress like black people can. They've been organized since the very beginning of the Trump thing. And they took out Target already this year. You know, I mean, like, they are. And so we need, we need to partner with them and put our hands and arms around them as our brothers and sisters in America and quit allow these right wingers to exploit them for whatever talent they want to be entertained by and then kicking them and their rights and everything to the curb. All right, that's all we have for this episode. Another great day in America. Please, like, subscribe. We'll be back later with more news.