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Host 1
Welcome to America's Top Hater podcast, where we specialize in hating on maga. Because it's so easy and it's so fun and they're so easy to be triggered. Pumps. What do you have in store for our listener today?
Host 2
I've been racking my brain about Trump's assault on Canada. And so I just want to remind everybody what the President of the United States says about our closest neighbor and ally, Canada.
Guest
You're tougher with Canada than you are with some of our biggest adversaries. Only because it's meant to be our 51st street.
Host 1
Okay, but.
Guest
No, but listen to this for a second. We need their territory. They have territorial advantage. We're not going to get close to China. Look, I deal with every country indirectly or directly. One of the nastiest countries to deal with is Canada. The people that. Now, this was Trudeau. The people that. Good old Justin. I call him Governor Trudeau. He was. His people were nasty and they weren't telling the truth. They never told the truth. You know that.
Host 1
I just, I, I guess I'm somewhat. I guess shouldn't be surprised, but his one take on anybody that he doesn't like is they're nasty.
Host 2
Yes.
Host 1
In his audience, his cult base. Like if I liked somebody and they always had the exact same comeback for everything, I would grow bored of that person. I'm just surprised that people are not bored of him, despite, okay, let's say they like him for the cruel. They like his makeup. They don't care that he wears a diaper. They don't care that he's incompetent. They don't care about the felon felonies. And all of that stuff. He's boring. This is. He's boring. Donald Trump is so boring, he doesn't even entertain anybody anymore. It's the same old tired shtick.
Host 2
The nasty. It's like he usually reserves that for women. So Justin Trudeau has now made it into that class. But do you notice how breathy he is? Canada, our 51st. He sounds slurry or something.
Host 1
I think that, I think he's on pills. I always have thought so. I think that he doesn't drink, but I think he's prescribed medications and I think he goes from being on uppers to downers. And I mean, he has all of the characteristics, besides being a malignant narcissist, he has all of the characteristics of somebody who is an untreated drug addict, in my opinion. Well.
Host 2
And even Laura Ingram couldn't make sense of it. She's like, why are you doing this to Canada? So if Fox News can't make sense of it, we're in trouble. Okay, one more clip from that interview with Trump on Canada didn't pay for military.
Guest
They don't give any. They give us nothing. And they are the worst people to negotiate with of everybody. They usmca, you finally got them around the edge on that, though. You got. No, I got them there. And USMCA is good, but they cheat. You know, an agreement's good, but they cheat.
Host 2
I have no patience for Donald Trump to call anybody a cheater. He cheats on wives, he cheats on taxes. He cheats at golf. He cheats at business. He cheats at every thing he touches. So when he says they cheat, that tells me they don't cheat because he is a liar and a projector. This just sent me into orbit.
Host 1
Every accusation with MAGA is a confession. And you have just. This is a whole group of completely broken people. This is bottom feeders. And he uses this type of propaganda to prepare his base because he constantly moves the goalposts and it's psychological warfare. And they start prepping. They've started to prep this Canada thing and they do all the work on it. And the mistake that Democrats make is we always play assumption politics. That's crazy. We assume that nobody's going to take him seriously. And that is our fatal error because many Americans were educated in probably these red states with very poor education systems and fall prey to this type of propaganda. And the mistake that Democrats make is we don't acknowledge that this is a war. It's not a war with guns and bombs. It's a psychological war. And we have to use those types of tactics back, we have to eviscerate this man every single day, make it a sport. Hating on MAGA and hating on these really bizarre MAGA men that are so obsessed with being masculine and what that reveals underneath. Because a real man doesn't have to talk about it, they don't have to talk about being a man. And so it's such an easy layup. But we have to change the language because this is a psychological war. And right now they're winning. They have all these dipshit podcasters, they have dipshit news networks, they have a dipshit crackhead president with Elon Musk sucking off everybody all the time. And they've convinced these people that Musk and Trump care about them.
Host 2
Right? Which is the biggest fallacy of all, because every single action they take says they only care about themselves. So Elon Musk, you mentioned him, he is the President's babysitter, slash leash holder. Here's what he said about Canada. Canada is not a real country. All of this begs the question for me. Why, why are they picking on candidate? Why are they zeroing in on Canada? What's your thought?
Host 1
I think it's. I don't think there's one quick answer. I think it's a multi thronged answer to this. Number one, Trump admires Putin. He admires autocrats, and what autocrats do is they take over other countries. Look no further than Putin's advance into Ukraine. So I think that's one factor to it. Justin Trudeau has been very critical of Donald Trump and he's been very critical of Vladimir Putin. And I think Putin is connected into this. I think they want the natural resources of Canada. But I also saw a clip of Elon Musk on one of these Maga Zeta male podcast shows, and he was talking about how he, in 20 years, he thinks we can have like a million people living on Mars. Which, number one, I'm not a scientist. I know that's bullshit. I know it's a complete waste of time. On the one hand, you can't be weane, need to completely reorganize America and I need to save it. Also, my side Hustle project is to spend trillions upon trillions of dollars to move people to Mars. But what he said in this is that he would need a lot of minerals from the earth. He would need minerals. So when I heard that, it clicked in my head. Oh, okay, Canada, Greenland, because they have all of these natural resources. And I just think that this is a typical oligarch billionaire thing where they just want to rape and pillage all resources, whether it be money from hardworking Americans like Elon Musk has done with his taxpayer subsidies or oil and gas cutting down trees. They don't care. They're maniacal sociopaths. So I think it's a multiple, you know, very short sighted, stupid approach. But again, our response to this needs to be to his tweet. Canada is not a real country. Every Democrat and every Democratic like us platformer who believes in democracy. That's a stupid statement said by a stupid man who's an untreated drug addict who is a welfare queen and we need to beat the out of him on the Internet. The minute Joe Biden won, they started going and going and going after him. After a while, it starts gaining a lot of steam and we're not bullying these people enough. That was a stupid tweet. And they do all of this stuff with impunity because they flood the zone and we need to say our zone's not flooded. All you're doing is building more evidence about what a dumb you are and how incompetent you are. And thinking about this. Elon Musk is, would never be a billionaire without subsidies. His cars suck, they're getting recalled left and right. He's terrible at doge. It's been an abject failure. It's gotten his ass beaten in court, left, right, top, down, center, every which way. And we're spending more money now and harming more people than we were this time last year and the economy's tanking. And I just think we need to bully these people more.
Host 2
I completely agree on that point because we're not going to gain traction until we start going on offense and just letting these people run around and say crazy shit is not working. We've done that. We've seen it doesn't work. My thought on the Donald Trump wants to take is Canada. I thought he sees Putin has gone into Ukraine and he's saying Ukraine's mine. And I think Donald Trump wants to show Putin I'm not your because I can take Canada, which he can't take Canada. But I think it's more of a dick measuring contest between he and Putin. But the Elon Musk part with the natural resources is incredibly interesting because I think Elon Musk believes he's going to have people living on Mars in 20 years.
Host 1
See, yeah, I, I don't, I don't think that Trump would do something this provocative with, with Canada without some sort of, this Being an idea or promoted or sponsored or encouraged by Putin. And Putin cannot stand Justin Trudeau. Trudeau has been, he was, when he was the prime minister, very black and white about Putin. And Putin, like Trump, he recognizes people that stand up for democracy with principle. And Canada is a problem for autocrats. And so I think there is more of a collusion. I don't think Donald Trump is man enough or intellectually creative enough to think I'm going to make Putin proud of me. I just, I don't think he has that in him. I don't think he's that ambitious. I mean, this is a lazy guy who likes to go around and talk about Hannibal Lecter and do tweets and horribly decorate the Oval Office and do press conferences where he, you know, where he belittles people and calls them nasty. This is not, this is a guy at every meeting, cabinet meeting he's ever been in, they say he's bored and he's scrolling social media the whole time. I just, I don't give him that much credit to be that creative to think we're going to make Canada the 51st state. That's how stupid I think he is.
Host 2
So you think it's more of a collusion, Putin pushing this?
Host 1
Yeah, I do.
Host 2
I can buy that.
Host 1
Because Canada and Europe are a huge, huge problem for Putin's plans. And the, he would need Canada to be a part of the United States. The only thing preventing Putin from advancing into Europe is the United States. And so I think he has been playing this game and he's a decade or two decades ahead of us on this. And he started the psychological warfare. He got all of the dumbed down, maga, triple Trumper dipshits in on it. And he attacked America through the NRA and through these religious groups, the most easy, manipulatable people on the planet that are very fear driven. The more fear based you are, the easier you are to manipulate. And Putin knew this. And so he also a problem for him is Canada. And so if Canada's in NATO and we pull out of, if we pull out of NATO, then you have this big problem right there. So I think this is way, way over. Trump skis.
Host 2
Well, I can definitely buy that now that you say it like that, but I did have to include this in this video because J.B. pritzker, the governor of Illinois, he had this. And I think it's what we're all asking. Could speak directly to Donald Trump.
Host 1
What would you tell him?
Guest
What does Vladimir Putin have on you?
Host 2
It's so True. This cannot be that. It's just like an equal relationship. Vladimir Putin is controlling the President of the United States and Elon Musk is right there with him. So what does he have on Trump? I hope I live long enough to find out, but I know that'll be in history.
Host 1
There are, I mean, there are rumors that I think have a lot of points of this have been substantiated that in the 80s, late 80s, early 90s, Trump was dead as broke and American banks would no longer give him money. And this is when Russia filled that void. And he became beholden to the Russians at that time. And they, he even has a name. It's like Krasnov or something like this. And if you ask even Elon Musk's artificial intelligence grok it, they think he has an 80% chance that he is a Russian asset, that the President, the sitting President, United States of America is a Russian asset. So it's not that we don't know what is it, the pee pee tape, Is it money? Is it both? But he has been beholden to Russia for a very long time, and there is a lot of facts and body of evidence behind that. There's not some smoking gun out there yet to be seen. I mean, I think we know it's money. And Putin, a former KGB agent, he knows how to compromise people. He has it, I think they call it kompromat or something like that is the Russian term for it. And I don't think there's any question that Donald Trump is completely compromised by Canada and too big of a dipshit to drop a war plan to take over Canada. Be like you and I trying to take over Canada. I think we'd do a better job of it. We'd put on a charm offensive or something. And Canada, we don't want to do that. We love you guys, but I mean, this guy, he bankrupted casinos, as you always brilliantly point out. Right.
Host 2
I mean, if you can make casino, I mean, is America to be the next thing he bankrupts? I'm starting to think yes.
Host 1
He already is.
Host 2
Right?
Host 1
Yeah. All right, we'll see you all later.
IHIP News Podcast Summary
Episode Title: Why Trump and Elon are Really Obsessed With Canada
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Release Date: March 22, 2025
In the March 22, 2025 episode of IHIP News, progressive podcasters Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan delve into the intriguing question: Why are Donald Trump and Elon Musk seemingly obsessed with Canada? Set against the backdrop of a politically charged environment in a predominantly red state, the hosts dissect recent statements and actions from influential figures, weaving humor with critical analysis to unpack this complex issue.
The episode opens with Host 2, Angie Sullivan, highlighting former President Donald Trump's increasingly hostile rhetoric towards Canada. Sullivan remarks on Trump's characterization of Canada as a "51st state," emphasizing the President of the United States' harsh stance on what is traditionally viewed as a close ally.
Angie Sullivan [01:20]: "I've been racking my brain about Trump's assault on Canada. And so I just want to remind everybody what the President of the United States says about our closest neighbor and ally, Canada."
Host 1, Jennifer Welch, reinforces this sentiment by critiquing Trump’s broad labeling of individuals he dislikes as "nasty," drawing parallels to his treatment of women and now extending this critique to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
Jennifer Welch [02:01]: "I just, I, I guess I'm somewhat... he's boring. Donald Trump is so boring, he doesn't even entertain anybody anymore. It's the same old tired shtick."
The hosts express frustration over Trump's repetitive and uninspired approach, suggesting that his inability to engage meaningfully with allies undermines diplomatic relations.
A significant portion of the discussion pivots to the potential influence of Russian President Vladimir Putin on Trump's policies towards Canada. Host 1 posits that Trump's aggressive stance may be orchestrated or influenced by Putin, drawing on historical interactions and alleged financial dependencies.
Jennifer Welch [06:22]: "Trump admires Putin. He admires autocrats, and what autocrats do is they take over other countries. Look no further than Putin's advance into Ukraine."
The conversation suggests that Trump's actions against Canada might be a strategic move to align with Putin's expansionist goals, hinting at deeper geopolitical maneuvers. Host 2 questions the plausibility of Trump acting without external influence, especially given his perceived lack of creativity and strategic planning.
Angie Sullivan [03:17]: "And so the mistake that Democrats make is we always play assumption politics... this is a war. It's not a war with guns and bombs. It's a psychological war."
The hosts transition to discussing Elon Musk's role in this narrative, exploring his recent comments about colonizing Mars and the implications regarding natural resource acquisition from Canada. Host 2 connects Musk's futuristic ambitions with the need for minerals, suggesting a covert interest in Canadian resources underpinning these grand plans.
Angie Sullivan [06:22]: "I saw a clip of Elon Musk on one of these Maga Zeta male podcast shows... I think Musk and Trump care about them [the Canadian resources]."
Host 1 echoes these concerns, criticizing Musk's dependency on taxpayer subsidies and questioning the sustainability and ethics of his ventures.
Jennifer Welch [08:07]: "Elon Musk, you mentioned him, he is the President's babysitter, slash leash holder."
A recurring theme in the episode is the concept of psychological warfare orchestrated by the MAGA movement. The hosts argue that the constant barrage of negative propaganda and fear-mongering is designed to manipulate and control public perception.
Jennifer Welch [04:07]: "Every accusation with MAGA is a confession. This is psychological warfare. And they start prepping this Canada thing and they do all the work on it."
They emphasize the importance of combating this strategy by taking an offensive stance, actively debunking misinformation, and dismantling the psychological constructs that MAGA supporters are built upon.
Angie Sullivan [05:53]: "We're not going to gain traction until we start going on offense and just letting these people run around and say crazy shit is not working."
The hosts advocate for a proactive approach in countering MAGA influence, suggesting that consistent and strategic "bullying" of MAGA figures online and in media can undermine their credibility and sway public opinion. They argue that by highlighting the incompetencies and contradictions of MAGA leaders, such as Trump and Musk, they can erode the foundation of their support.
Jennifer Welch [04:11]: "We have to eviscerate this man every single day, make it a sport. Hating on MAGA and hating on these really bizarre MAGA men..."
They also touch upon the detrimental impact of MAGA influencers on mainstream media and public discourse, labeling many as "dipshit podcasters" and "crackhead president," thereby diminishing their authority and appeal.
In wrapping up the episode, both hosts reiterate the urgency of their mission to counteract MAGA tactics and influence. They stress the need for continuous vigilance and active resistance against the psychological and political maneuvers employed by Trump, Musk, and their affiliates.
Jennifer Welch [14:56]: "He's already is. All right, we'll see you all later."
IHIP News concludes this episode by reinforcing the importance of awareness and action in the face of political adversities, urging listeners to stay informed and engaged in the fight against detrimental political influences.
This episode of IHIP News provides a comprehensive and critical examination of the intertwined relationships between political figures and their strategic maneuvers concerning Canada. Through incisive analysis and spirited discussion, Jennifer Welch and Angie Sullivan offer listeners a nuanced perspective on contemporary political dynamics.