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Host 1
Foreign.
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Host 2
It's working, but we can do better pumps. I want to show you what a whipped puppy looks like.
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Elon Musk
I think in terms of political spending, I'm going to do a lot less in the future.
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Interviewer
And why is that?
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Elon Musk
I think I've done enough.
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Interviewer
Is it. Is it because of blowback?
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Elon Musk
Well, if I see a reason to do political spending in the future, I will do it. I do not currently see a reason.
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Interviewer
What about.
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Host 2
Okay, so here he is, you know, facing the consequences of the aftermath of academy spiral, doing horrible business dealings that caused him to be under 16 different investigations. He's doing Nazi salutes. He buys Twitter, renames it. It's just been an abject failure. And furthermore, I've read a lot of reports that his cars, Tesla, aren't even that great. They're not even the best EV on the market. They haven't evolved technologically like other cars have. So here he is facing consequences and how smug he is there, and the lack of acknowledgment that maybe I should have just focused on my businesses and. And face the music. Because this public global backlash that he's dealing with, I think he will never be able to dig out of. I do not think his reputation is recoverable, and I don't think it should be.
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Host 1
I completely agree with you on that. Two things stuck out to me. Like you said, he has zero ability to say, you know, I made some mistakes and some poor choices, and if I had it to do over again, I do differently. No accountability. And then he says, well, if I see a reason to do it, the reason he doesn't need to buy another presidency is all the damage he's done to the United States in this presidency. And he got out of all the trouble that he was in with the investigations, like you mentioned, because he bought and paid for Donald Trump. And I hope for the American people we don't have another presidential candidate that's up for sale.
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Host 2
Well, I think he puts that caveat in there, unless I need to. He needed to buy Donald Trump. That's right. And so now he's doing the calculus. Was me pulling out all of these investigations that were going on against my companies, did that? What fines he would have paid? What is a greater damage here? Lifelong brand damage and a stock tumbling and everybody boycotting his brands worldwide, other countries refusing to put Starlink in their countries, or would it have been better for him to have just paid the fines? I think probably his board of directors on his publicly held companies are telling him this was not worth it. And in any other company on the planet, he would have been fired. But here's the same interview, and this is where he just completely starts spiraling out of control. Watch this.
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Elon Musk
Not otherwise. And so now I'm in this absurd situation where I was born in South Africa but cannot get a license to operate in Starlink because I'm not black.
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Interviewer
Well, it looks like that's about. Looks like that's about to change.
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Elon Musk
I just asked you a question. Please answer. Does that seem right to you?
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Interviewer
Well, those rules were designed to bring.
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Elon Musk
Yes or no?
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Interviewer
Those rules were designed to bring about an era of more economic equality in South Africa. And it looks like the government has found a way around those rules for you.
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Elon Musk
Ask your question.
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Interviewer
This is your interview. Everyone wants to hear from you.
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Elon Musk
Ask your question. Yes or no.
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Interviewer
Not for me. Not for me to answer. I have got a question for you about your government work and the amount of savings.
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Elon Musk
Why do you like racist laws?
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Interviewer
This is not for me to ask. Come on.
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Host 2
So this is. You know, anytime the majority of us face accountability or rules or regulations in our life, we don't get to have a public fit like this and buy our way out of it. And the world has basically been set up for Elon Musk to excel. The American government under even democratic presidents has had some massive flaws in it that we have aided and abetted a man to this much unregulated wealth that then he is able to ascend to basically being a co president that has dismantled safety measures built into our government like faa like. The fact that this man politicized air traffic control is a damning, damning autopsy on where the United States of America is as our psyche. That he's politicized the air traffic control. And when you hear reports of whistleblowers within the faa, they are saying do not fly. Right now in Newark, for example, we're supposed to have 30 to 40 air traffic controllers. We have 20 to 30. But this titty baby is sitting there upset. Out of all the countries in the world that he can't have Starlink ins South Africa that is trying to reconcile its horrific apartheid passed and honor black business leaders. And that's what the people want. They're a majority black nation. But he is, he can't ever play by the rules. And this is a problem right now, globally, that he's, that he's inserting himself into the United States and all this DEI stuff. And whether you like DEI or not, we live in a mold multicultural society. And it's been easier for you and me to ascend to these microphones than it is for a black woman to do so. And in South Africa, it's the whole system has been rigged for white men, but it's just not enough for him. He always, always, always wants to have his way. And when he doesn't get his way, he has to pitch a fit.
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Host 1
He is the biggest titty baby. And I agree with you. He cannot survive on a meritocracy. He has to be the victim and everybody's against him when in he's taking the influence of the United States and Trump is allowing him to use it to put Starlink in other countries. This man wants an advantage in every situation. It is absolutely abhorrent how arrogant he is.
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Host 2
And I think a larger question that Americans are going to have to address is how not just Republicans, but a lot of people have enabled the evil deeds of billionaires and corporate greed. And that is a reconciling that I hope the Democrats Democratic Party jumps on in their messaging because there is a massive billionaire backlash. If you look at Silicon Valley, they were notoriously liberal and embraced climate change and facts. Well, then they started making a lot of money. And when you have a big company like that, the government puts consumer protections in place, algorithms, fact checking, etc. Well, they saw that as harmful to their profits. So then all of a sudden, what do they do? Money corrupted them, power corrupted them, and it wasn't enough. Their liberalism and their embrace of facts was only contingent upon their ability to have unlimited power and unlimited funds. And this is something that has to start from the grassroots that we value consumer safety over billionaires having the ability to use their money for nefarious means. Next up, we have Musk continuing his whining campaign on cnbc.
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Reporter
My question is more about your work at Doge, for example. Was that worth it? You know, to the extent you are now Elon, you are somewhat divisive figure two years ago, but now you really are. I mean, there are people who love you, but there are a lot of people who dislike you, some of whom were your customers. And I wonder, was it worth the undertaking at Doge and everything else that you've done and how outspoken you've been in terms of the things you believe in to antagonize so many potential buyers and or users of things like a robot taxi?
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Elon Musk
Well, I mean, unfortunately what I've learned is that legacy media propaganda is very effective at making people believe things that aren't true.
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Reporter
What would an example of that, that.
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Host 2
I'm a Nazi, for example, okay, lie number one there is that legacy media engages in propaganda that benefits the left, right? That is the biggest lie. Legacy media barely goes after Trump. Legacy media right now, if you look at CNN is on some ridiculous bend over about a guy who isn't even president anymore, didn't seek a second term and has cancer. Meanwhile, Musk has is doing illegal acts within the United States government. But secondly, you are a Nazi, right? I mean, that's just all there is to it. Okay, so Canada has completely had it with the United States of America and they have been boycotting travel to the United States and it has been deepening and deepening and the press is really starting to cover it. But what's so interesting is when I get on our favorite app, Ground News, the center reports this story 39 of the time. The left reports at 42% of the time. Right wing media only reports it 19%. And so you see this huge blind spot that the supporters of MAGA are not understanding how deep this anti American sentiment is.
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Host 1
What is so refreshing about Ground News is it gives you the factuality of the article and it also tells you what both sides are talking about so you can communicate effectively knowing what they're hearing versus what is actually fact and what you're seeing.
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Host 2
Listener, you have agency. Be a good citizen and download Ground News. You can join us by going to ground news.com I hip to get 40% off the ground News Vantage plan that pumps and I use every day. They're subscriber funded and our favorite part is that they are female founded. By subscribing you're not only getting a tool we all need today, you're also supporting our work. That's ground gr o u n dnews.com I h I p and we have linked it below in the show notes. Let's put up this headline right here. Verified Pro Nazi X Accounts Flourish under Elon Musk. An ABC News review identified 150 verified premium accounts that have posted or amplified Pro Nazi content. So this was something that Jack Dorsey, the former owner of Twitter, didn't allow on the platform. He these accounts were banned. You couldn't be a Nazi on his platform. Elon Musk didn't like that, so he bought the platform and then the Nazis flooded in. But you just have to always, always, always remember what your eyes show you and believe your eyes and believe facts and don't believe the real propaganda. Full of just the biggest misfits imaginable. I mean idiotic beyond the pale. But look at this. Never forget that this is what this man did back to back. And I want you to look at his mouth. I want you to look at how he's like grinding his teeth. He later tried to spin this, that he was showing love. Look at, look at the grimace, look at all the facial muscles that it takes to show that. Furthermore, he meets with the far right German party IDF in between, amplifies all of these Nazi accounts, retweeting these Nazi accounts, but he meets with them and says, get over your past. Get over Nazi Germany's past. And that's what they want everybody to do. Don't, don't think about what happened in Nazi Germany. Don't, don't think about that, because that's what we're planning on doing. I mean, Kristi Noem under this administration has shipped 50 people who came to this country legally to a concentration camp in El Salvador. And she doesn't even know what habeas corpus is. And his face planting all over the place. So this is dire. I don't know if he's going to be completely out of Trump's orbit because he always seems to snake his way in. But what's your take on that, Pops?
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Host 1
Number one, my biggest take is if you are going to sit there and act like they're making you out to be a Nazi and you're not, you are not living in reality. You are solely responsible for the narrative that surrounds you. Elon Musk and I think he might, you know, the Doge appointment might be gone. He bought and paid for Donald Trump. He bought and paid for him for a reason. And I do not think that he is just going to fade into the twilight. I think he likes the power too much and I think he wants more from the US Government and Donald Trump's willing to give it.
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Host 2
Yeah. But I wonder what happens with the. And I think this is something that's going to play out with the MAGA regime and capitalism. So you have RFK Jr. That's going after pharmaceutical companies. Pharmaceutical companies are a huge part of our economy. Good, bad, indifferent. I mean, I think pharmaceutical companies are inherently evil. Just look at the Sackler family and the opioid crisis. But think about Elon Musk shareholders juxtaposing with what he's doing. All of these activities with Donald Trump, they only benefit Musk and to and, and on a personal level, damaging his brand's ability to have sustainable longevity in the economy. And I think we're going to see these things start to clash big time. The big business. And then Trump's myopic view for only a few, because even in Trump's form of oligarchy, it leads leaves out hundreds of thousands of other businesses that don't get the benefit that only the select few get. And it's important to point out many of the select few that the Trump regime favors aren't even Americans. You know, Elon Musk and then this whole circle jerk that just happened in the Middle East. And so it always seems that Trump is favoring foreigners over Americans, and he's going to neglect a lot of our S&P 500s, which is why I'm always calling on these CEOs to speak out against these distinct abuses of power. All right, that's all we have for today, and we'll see you all later.