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Political Commentator 1
All right. There is something happening right now across the nation that is coming to a climax in New York. And it is the Democratic Party and, and the feeling that the base and even base adjacent people feel that the Democratic leadership are folders, not fighters, and that they are too beholden to corporate interests. And all of this is coming to a head in this New York mayoral race. And because Zoran Mamdani is so good at this, he is excellent at campaigning, it is breaking a lot of people. Like they are completely breaking over this. They are saying that he's a jihadist, horrible Islamophobic attacks on him. They are saying that one night he went out and ate sushi with his wife for her birthday or his. I can't remember that he's, you know, an asshole. Imagine running against Andrew Cuomo and the only thing they can find against him is that he went to an expensive sushi rest restaurant. But something somebody has been continually breaking. Somebody that I used to watch frequently earlier and in my political junkie days, and that's Bill Maher being an atheist in a Bible belt. My mother and I always watched Bill Maher because it was interesting to see somebody who thought the way we thought about religion. And ever since I would say Trump's middle of Biden's second term, middle of Biden's term all the way to Trump's second term. He just continually seems to break and break and break and has completely seems to me gotten quasi red pill to somebody who watched him for years and years. And I haven't been able to watch him in the last four or five. But here he is saying one of the most intellectually lazy takes I've ever heard on Mamdani play.
Political Commentator 2
The clip issue now that Andrew Cuomo is bringing up in New York is that he is a Ugandan citizen. Uganda's a country where they kill homosexuals.
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So somebody who is a dual citizen can't be married in New York or.
Political Commentator 2
I would renounce if I was the dual citizen with a country whose policy, government policy was we kill homosexuals. Yeah, I would renounce that citizenship and to not.
Political Commentator 1
And.
Political Commentator 2
And he also could.
Experian Advertiser
I think that is Buying into a fear framework that.
Political Commentator 2
Is not fear of killing homosexuals. Yes.
Experian Advertiser
It's not good for the country. It's not good for the country.
Political Commentator 2
You shouldn't be afraid of that.
Experian Advertiser
I think the way that Cuomo is closing out this race and really race baiting and really leaning in on me.
Political Commentator 2
You know what?
Political Commentator 1
Just because something.
Experian Advertiser
I don't think that's good for the country.
Political Commentator 2
I understand, but just because something is done by people in Africa doesn't mean it's always okay. Well, and, but you said race fading. It has nothing to do with race.
Experian Advertiser
Oh, I'm talking about what Cuomo's doing, suggesting that Mambani couldn't be a leader in a terror situation if he were mayor of New York and God forbid something else like nine.
Political Commentator 2
Well, he did campaign with the terrorists.
Experian Advertiser
He did say well, but Cuomo was pretty clear, I thought, in the way he talked about that, in a way that I thought was ugly.
Political Commentator 2
Well, he campaigned this week with a guy who was an unindicted co conspirator in the 1993 World Trade center bombing and served as a character witness for Omar Abdelrahman, the terrorist who organized it. So Sarah Palin used to say Obama palled around the terrorists, which was bullshit. But I just don't know if this is a great look for the party. I really don't.
Political Commentator 1
Okay, let me tackle why this is so intellectually dishonest and intellectually lazy. Number one, his notion that Zoran Mamdani should get rid of his Ugandan citizenship because the government will kill homosexuals. I want all liberals across the United States of America understand what happens in Bible Belt states. You have politicians that actively talk about wanting to kill homosexuals or sentencing them to death. Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of Defense, own pastor and his own church has said these same things. But my home city of Oklahoma City has a person that works at City Hall. Kylie put up the headline polite and friendly in his OKC job. In other gigs as church leader, he says gay people should be lined up and executed. And look at the timestamp that, everybody. May 28, 2025. This is an old this is the emboldened MAGA movement. So by Bill Maher's logic, it's only these far off African or Middle Eastern countries that want to do this execution style punitive treatment to homosexuals. When in actuality those of us liberals that live in red states have been sounding the alarm on this year after year after year after year that listen, these evangelicals in this mega church culture where they dress it up with their shitty architecture and they have the dunk tank and they have the rock band and the pastor that wears True religion jeans and has a stylist underneath all of that flash there is horrific homophobia to the tune that they think these people should not live. And I encourage the Bill Mahers of the world to go live in a red state in a suburb and embed yourself in American evangelical culture. And you will find that they have everything in common with these other religious whack job governments. So by his logic, I should disown Oklahoma and disown Oklahoma City because they have people that work in the government that want to kill homosexuals. But let's just take a troll down memory lane here and let's talk about. He also says that Zoron palled around with the terrorists. Well, the fact of the matter about this listener and pumps is that this imam that he was photographed with, Zoran Mamdani, Bill de Blasio was photographed with and so was Eric Adams. So he doesn't tell the full story there. And any politician at any point in their campaigning as they go to different religious leaders, you know, I think you have, I remember during some of the races with Obama they said he was a Muslim. And another point, his pastor was too radical and dissipate rights, etc. But if we're going to talk about who you hang out with and whether that's qualifying or disqualifying, I would like for Kylie to put up now the image of Trump. This is just a couple of days ago on Air Force One with the leaders of Qatar. And this Meacham doctor on Twitter tweets an image of Kanks. You can see the stroke, you know his lip. Look at his right lip going downwards from the mini stroke that he had. Maga, we can't let Muslims have political influence in America. Also MAGA this. I also want to point out that Kanks hangs out with the, the guy who killed Khashoggi in Saudi Arabia. And these people are terrorists, the Qataris, fun terrorism. And so it's just really rich to me that Bill Maher just cherry picks because Bill Maher is an atheist. But at the epicenter of a lot of his atheism is a preference to hate Muslims the most. And there is some embedded Islamophobia in there. And I just think it's such a cheap, intellectually lazy shot at Zoran Momdani the way he teed that up. It was such a right wing talking point. Okay, I'm sorry I bogarted the mic but I wanted to lay that out for you. Pumps. Now what do you think of that?
Political Commentator 3
I look at all this uproar about Zora mom dummy and obviously they know he's going to win. I think we can check that mark off the list. But here's the thing. I also think it's, it's the compound thoughts and feelings like Democrats are supposed to be able to do two things at once. Bill Maher at one point could do two things at once. Just because you have citizenships in two countries doesn't mean that you can't be conflict free and do the best for the city you're elected to represent. Like, I don't understand. It's kind of like you have to pay protesters to go to the no Kings rally. No, we'll do it for free. Just because I have citizenship in America doesn't mean that I don't think that Canada is in the right with all this Trump, from all this stuff with Trump. I mean like, why do you have to assume that people cannot hold two values, two thoughts at the same time?
Political Commentator 1
I think the point he was trying to make was that because it is a crime that is punishable by death to be homosexual in Uganda, if Zoran Mamdami is this champion for universal human rights, he should get rid of that citizenship on principle. I believe that's the point that he was making. Not that if he, trust me, if he were a citizen of France and the United States, nobody would be having this conversation. The elephant in the room pumps is the Muslim portion of this. That's what primes him to all of this critique. Yet, yet the United States government, particularly Kanks, Kushner and all of these others have no problem with the funders of Hamas, which is Qatar. They have no problem with egregious human rights violators and mass murderers Saudi Arabia. They have no problem engaging in their sports washing, comedy washing, insane washing of the new rollout that these horrific regimes want to do. And I want to remind everybody, the funders of the World Trade center bombings on 911 was Saudi Arabia. And last time I checked, Trump was over there juggling an orb, running around looking like a nut in Saudi Arabia. But here's a video. If we're going to talk about, if we follow Bill Maher's logic that Zoram Hamdani should disown his Ugandan citizenship, then every American that disagrees with Kanks should get rid of their American citizenship. Because here we have Kanks and I've already talked about him cozying up with the funders of 9 11, cozying up with the funders of Hamas, cozying up with war criminal Benjamin Netanyahu. Here he is cozying up with a murderous dictator, enemy of America, whom he greeted and rolled out the red carpet for. Play the clip. So there he is with one of our biggest adversaries. And then finally, per Bill Maher's argument, if we are to get rid of our citizenship based on policies of our country, country's leaders, and deny that part of our being, because I will always be an American, and I disagree with everything that this regime is doing, and I hate pedophiles, and I think they should be exposed, and I think that we should sanitize the whole thing and release all the files. But look at this. Yeah, look at the company that Kanks keeps. Look at the company that he keeps. And then finally, this is why Bill Maher is able to say that. Because he does this double play and this moral duplicity better than anybody. And Bill Maher was the guy who was terrified of Mitt Romney and donated $1 million to Barack Obama's campaign. Bill Maher is the guy who said Kanks will not leave the White house in Trump 1.0. He said it over and over and over again. And everybody said he was crazy and he was 100% right. But something broke in him, like, breaks in so many people. And here he is right here having dinner with Kid Rock and Kanks at the Oval Office. And Kanks is the guy who pals around with terrorists, Bill Maher, lots of them. He pals around with a lot of terrorists, more than anybody else ever has in the history of America. And you have no problem going and kissing the ring and then thumbing your nose at the people who used to listen to you because you were a progressive thought leader. But in the last five or six years, that statement that you made about Mamdani is so rooted in your own personal feeling that you dislike all religions, which I share that with you, but your own personal feeling that Islam is more of the mother load, to quote Sam Harris, more of the mother load of bad ideas than any other religion anywhere. And that even a moderate Muslim like Zoran Maldani, who's creating a sanctuary city for LGBTQ people, somehow some jihadist terrorist, you just. You're smarter than that. You know better than that. You know that there are millions of Muslims that are Muslim light, that don't believe in having a bunch of wives that are not jihadist and etc. Yet you continue to carry on these Islamophobic stereotypes and tropes. And that's why everybody's so terrified of Zoron, because they're going to see somebody who is Muslim. But that's over here. Because we live in a secular society, right? But fights for the poor, fights for trans kids, fights for drag queens, fights for books. Doesn't pal around with war criminals and terrorists like Benjamin Netanyahu. Like Kanks does. So the person who pals around with terrorist Bill Maher is Kanks. It's him. He's the one that does that, not Zoran Mamdani. And this is nothing more than bigotry and racism in motion. Wrapped up as I am a thought leader, and I just think it's such bullshit. And maybe this works on your new MAGA base that watches your show, but I just thought it was disgraceful, intellectually lazy and intellectually dishonest. All right, that's all we have for this episode. Please, like, subscribe. Pumps, model the book.
Political Commentator 3
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Political Commentator 1
Do a better job. There you go. There she is.
Political Commentator 3
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Political Commentator 1
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Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: October 29, 2025
In this episode, Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan dissect the escalating frenzy in mainstream media and establishment political circles over Zohran Mamdani’s meteoric rise in the New York mayoral race. With a blend of humor and pointed analysis, the hosts explore how Mamdani’s progressive campaign is sending shockwaves through both the Democratic Party and media personalities such as Bill Maher, revealing deep-seated anxieties about shifting political power, xenophobia, and the limits of “acceptable” dissent.
| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|-------|---------| | 00:25 | “It is breaking a lot of people. Like they are completely breaking over this.” | Jennifer Welch | | 04:04 | “His notion that Zoran Mamdani should get rid of his Ugandan citizenship because the government will kill homosexuals. I want all liberals… to understand what happens in Bible Belt states.” | Jennifer Welch | | 04:21 | “…By Bill Maher’s logic, it’s only these far-off African or Middle Eastern countries that want to do this execution-style punitive treatment to homosexuals. When in actuality, those of us liberals that live in red states… have been sounding the alarm.” | Jennifer Welch | | 08:54 | “Democrats are supposed to be able to do two things at once… Just because you have citizenships in two countries doesn't mean that you can't be conflict free and do the best for the city you're elected to represent.” | Angie “Pumps” Sullivan | | 10:37 | “The funders of the World Trade Center bombings on 9/11 was Saudi Arabia… And last time I checked, Trump was over there juggling an orb, running around looking like a nut in Saudi Arabia.” | Jennifer Welch | | 14:15 | “And this is nothing more than bigotry and racism in motion. Wrapped up as I am a thought leader, and I just think it’s such bullshit… Maybe this works on your new MAGA base that watches your show, but I just thought it was disgraceful, intellectually lazy, and intellectually dishonest.” | Jennifer Welch |
The episode maintains a passionate, irreverent, and often humorous tone. Jennifer’s commentary is sharp and unapologetic, while Angie “Pumps” Sullivan’s interjections provide relatable, down-to-earth perspectives. The hosts deftly mix personal anecdotes, pointed political criticism, and pop culture observations.
This episode is a compelling, incisive takedown of mainstream media and establishment hypocrisy regarding Zohran Mamdani’s candidacy. Welch and Sullivan combine searing political analysis with wit and personal reflection, unmasking the thinly-veiled xenophobia and Islamophobia at play while challenging listeners to hold both progressives and the Democratic Party to a higher standard. Listeners are left with a stark question: Who does the media really protect, and what are they so afraid of when new progressivism threatens the status quo?