Building a Legacy with Ayesha and Stephen Curry

Summary

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Podcast Summary: IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson

Episode: Building a Legacy with Ayesha and Stephen Curry
Date: March 25, 2026
Podcast Host: Higher Ground

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Main Theme & Purpose

In this heartfelt and lively episode, Michelle Obama and her brother Craig Robinson sit down with NBA superstar Stephen Curry and entrepreneur/chef Ayesha Curry to explore the meaning of legacy—on and off the court, at home, and in the community. The Currys open up about parenting, partnership, public life, and the reality behind their celebrated marriage. They also share candid stories about working together, maintaining individuality, supporting each other through challenges, and raising well-grounded children. Listener questions prompt practical advice on balancing ambition, family, and self-care.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Plezi Nutrition Collaboration (05:14–07:36)

• Partnership Announcement: Michelle reveals a new venture with the Currys—Plezi Nutrition, focusing on healthy hydration drinks for children.
• Motivation: The Currys' kids were the driving force behind their involvement.
  • “Our kids really gravitated towards all of the samples...then we started to try and we were like, wait, we really like this.” – Ayesha Curry [05:51]
  • “The energy we got from them...there’s such a much more educated kid and family consumer now.” – Stephen Curry [06:30]
• Real-World Approval: Even Craig’s sons, who “don’t like other hydration drinks,” loved Plezi, reinforcing its appeal to kids [07:10–07:34].

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2. Parenting & Family Values (07:38–15:20)

• Expanding Family: The Currys discuss why they eventually had four children and the push-pull of that decision.
  • “We had the three. And then we kind of got that itch...it feels like someone’s missing.” – Ayesha Curry [08:47]
• Pregnancy Difficulties: Candid talk about Ayesha’s battles with hyperemesis gravidarum and the struggle for Black women to be taken seriously by the medical system.
  • “Oftentimes the pain...is kind of written off within the healthcare system...just continuously advocate for yourself.” – Ayesha Curry [09:48–10:51]
• Dividing Duties: The importance of shared responsibilities, outside help, and letting go of the supermom ideal.
  • “I had this strange sense of pride and this need to prove that I could be supermom...I paid for it, though, mentally and physically.” – Ayesha Curry [13:42–14:35]
  • “With Kai, our fourth, I said...I got a night nurse to get those 6–8 hours.” – Ayesha Curry [14:35]

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3. Building & Maintaining a Strong Marriage (19:11–29:54)

• Origin Story: The Currys recount their first meeting at church in high school, her “no athletes” rule, and their eventual reconnection and romance.
  • “We were kind of like in the same circle...all our conversations in high school were about either church or where you going on Wednesday or Canadian candy.” – Stephen Curry [00:00/19:27 repeated anecdote]
  • Memorable: Ayesha admits she “did think [she] was protecting [her] peace” with her anti-athlete mentality, but meeting Stephen "just felt like we were best friends" right away [22:44–24:00].
• Chemistry & Growth: Both describe how their marriage evolved—“learning each other as we go through,” supporting each other, and always refocusing on their partnership.
  • “We try to also approach all of this from like a ‘it’s just us’ mentality...making sure that we at the center of it all realize that it’s us in this together.” – Ayesha Curry [27:16]
• Honesty over Hashtag Goals: Michelle and Ayesha both stress the importance of not romanticizing marriage.
  • “It’s one thing to be hashtag relationship goals, it’s another to tell the truth about what it takes.” – Michelle Obama [28:00]
  • “Anything great takes work...growth is inevitable and change is inevitable.” – Ayesha Curry [29:14–29:49]
  • “Neither one of us can quit on the same day.” – Stephen Curry [29:54]

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4. Parenting Philosophy & Making Childhood “Normal” (30:47–43:26)

• Adapting to Kids’ Needs: The realities of raising a teen and the different approaches needed for each child.
  • “You’ve got to parent each one of them a little different. As the older they get, the more they notice that.” – Stephen Curry [32:01]
• Advocacy at Home: Michelle explains the importance of children “learning to advocate for themselves” via family debate and disagreement at the dinner table [32:12].
• Fame & Normalcy: Both families describe the challenge of helping kids feel “regular” despite privilege and exposure.
  • “They just want to be regular people.” – Michelle Obama, on both the Curry and Obama daughters’ reactions to the trappings of fame [41:10]
  • “Normal is a weird word...that's a normal experience. Like, we’re gonna be at your game...embarrassing you after your theater production.” – Stephen Curry [42:00–43:00]
• Parental Modeling: How parents’ attitudes set the tone for what kids consider normal [44:23–44:39].

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5. Working Together as a Couple (45:43–50:37)

• Animated Movie ‘GOAT’: The Currys share how their animated family movie came to be, and their distinct approaches to voice acting.
  • “Animation takes forever...my favorite part is there's something for the entire family.” – Stephen Curry [46:08]
  • Ayesha pitched creative voices for her character—“I wanted to be like, you don't get any pie. Or maybe have a Jamaican accent...They were like, no—your regular voice is great.” – Ayesha Curry [48:03]
• Collaboration Dynamic: Aisha values working with Stephan but emphasizes wanting opportunities based on her own merit.
  • “I never want to feel like I'm inserting myself...Sometimes I do feel like I have a point to prove...but he's always so gracious...putting me on a pedestal, even when I don’t want to be up there.” – Ayesha Curry [49:22]

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6. Mutual Growth & Individual Lessons (55:02–57:53)

• What They Learn From Each Other:
  • “I’ve learned from Aisha what true, like ambition and passion really looks like on a daily basis...that motivates me.” – Stephen Curry [55:17]
  • “He is so even-keeled, and he can compartmentalize really big emotions...that’s extremely inspiring.” – Ayesha Curry [56:42]

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7. Listener Question: Juggling Family, Ambition & Boundaries (58:09–65:36)

• The Challenge: Vivian, a mother, nurse, and community leader, asks how to balance all her roles without burning out or feeling “not enough.”
• Ayesha’s “Many Cups” Analogy: “For women...there are many cups we’re dealing with. Separate everything into these cups and realize when you’re pouring into that cup, it’s just that cup in the moment.” [60:10]
• Self-Compassion: Stephen and Ayesha stress giving oneself grace, setting boundaries, and accepting you can't do everything at 120%.
  • “Those days where you don’t feel like you’re killing it...probably the days that you’re killing it the most.” – Stephen Curry [61:41]
  • “It’s also okay not to kill it every single day.” – Ayesha Curry [61:51]
  • “Learn to say no.” – Michelle Obama [62:58]
  • “Do less and learn to be okay with it.” – Michelle Obama [64:42]

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8. Looking Ahead (66:03–67:31)

• The Future: The Currys celebrate 15 years of marriage and approach the “who knows?” of life after NBA.
  • “We have our 15 year wedding anniversary this summer. Very happy about that.” – Ayesha Curry [66:22]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with timestamps)

• “We can’t keep it in a week.”
  – Stephen Curry on kids’ approval of the drink [07:34]
• “Neither one of us can quit on the same day.”
  – Stephen Curry [29:54]
• “Anything great takes work.”
  – Ayesha Curry [29:14]
• “Our kids reacted the way we reacted. So if we showed up special...then slowly they followed suit.”
  – Michelle Obama [44:23]
• “I wish I had that instinct...she has that on a daily basis and it motivates me.”
  – Stephen Curry [56:06]
• “Do less and learn to be okay with it.”
  – Michelle Obama [64:42]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 05:14 – Plezi Nutrition and partnering on health
• 08:34 – On deciding to have a fourth child
• 09:47 – Ayesha discusses pregnancy complications for Black women
• 13:42 – On the illusion and cost of “supermom”
• 19:11 – The Currys’ backstory as high school church friends
• 26:35 – Lessons learned in 15 years of marriage
• 29:14 – The reality behind marriage “goals”
• 32:12 – Teaching kids self-advocacy
• 41:03 – Making kids feel normal amid privilege
• 46:08 – The making of ‘GOAT’ and couple collaboration
• 55:17 – What they teach each other
• 58:19 – Listener Question on balancing roles
• 62:58 – Michelle’s advice: “Learn to say no.”
• 66:22 – Celebrating 15 years together

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Tone & Language

The episode is candid, playful, and emotionally open, combining practical wisdom and real stories with humor and obvious affection among the hosts and guests. Michelle and Craig keep it relaxed and approachable, while the Currys meet vulnerability with warmth and insight. No one shies away from difficult truths—about marriage, parenting, ambition, or self-doubt—but the focus is always on growth, grace, and mutual support.

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Conclusion

This episode offers an insider's look at two remarkable families striving to build authentic legacies, both public and private. Through laughter, storytelling, and raw honesty, the Currys and Obamas share lessons on partnership, humility, and the ongoing challenge of balancing all the “cups” of modern life. Listeners leave inspired, with practical advice ringing in their ears: “Do less, and learn to be okay with it.”

Transcript

[Stephen Curry]

We were kind of like in the same circle of friends, but all our conversations in high school were about either church or where you going on Wednesday or Canadian candy. It was like talking about sweet tooth stuff.

[Coach Robinson]

So.

[Stephen Curry]

No, it was. No.

[Coach Robinson]

No rap. No.

[Stephen Curry]

No. I don't know if I ain't have any game or if she was nervous or, like, vice versa. And, like, neither one of us really kind of. It was just, you know, I feel

[Aisha Curry]

like this is something that gets misconstrued.

[Coach Robinson]

Okay.

[Michelle Obama]

Okay.

[Guest or Host]

Publicly, let's clear.

[Michelle Obama]

This episode is brought to you by Chase Home Lending and theraflu. Well, it's been a while since I've seen you.

[Coach Robinson]

It feels like a whole year.

[Stephen Curry]

Yeah.

[Michelle Obama]

You're doing okay.

[Coach Robinson]

Doing fine.

[Michelle Obama]

That's good. You look good.

[Guest or Host]

I feel good.

[Michelle Obama]

Have you been losing weight?

[Guest or Host]

I have.

[Michelle Obama]

Is that what I see, or is that just a big jacket?

[Coach Robinson]

No, no, no. I've actually. Remember the last time my knee was bothering me.

[Michelle Obama]

Oh, yeah.

[Coach Robinson]

It's all better. So I can do more stuff, be more active, get my workout in. That's good.

[Michelle Obama]

That's good.

[Coach Robinson]

And then I'm coaching. So.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah.

[Coach Robinson]

Running around with these little channels.

[Michelle Obama]

And how many teams are you coaching now?

[Coach Robinson]

So I'm coaching Aaron's 8th grade team.

[Michelle Obama]

What's the name of their team?

[Coach Robinson]

Junior Highlanders.

[Michelle Obama]

What does that mascot look like?

[Guest or Host]

It looks like a guy with big.

[Coach Robinson]

Dressed in a kilt.

[Aisha Curry]

Oh,

[Coach Robinson]

you can't laugh at that. That's a serious master.

[Michelle Obama]

It's like. So what's his story? Is he a Sherpa or something?

[Coach Robinson]

No, he's more like a Scottishman.

[Guest or Host]

That's the kilt helped me out.

[Coach Robinson]

The kilt, Hence the kilt.

[Guest or Host]

I'll do some research and find out.

[Michelle Obama]

Please, please.

[Coach Robinson]

But I'm coaching the crazy.

[Michelle Obama]

We are gonna find out about the Highlanders, and I'm sure all the folks in Mequon will be reaching out to give you information, because I want to know.

[Coach Robinson]

They will.

[Michelle Obama]

Okay, so you got the Highlanders, and

[Coach Robinson]

then I'm the assistant coach for the high school team, which are the actual Highlanders. They're not called Senior Highlanders. They are the Highlanders.

[Michelle Obama]

Okay. All right.

[Coach Robinson]

And they happen to be playing right now, so.

[Michelle Obama]

So you're missing the game, Coach.

[Guest or Host]

But that's okay because we have a.

[Michelle Obama]

It's a good example of why Coach Robinson is absent. And the whole team will be ecstatic.

[Coach Robinson]

And I'm very excited because, see, you know these two, and I'm just meeting them for the first time, if you can believe that.

[Michelle Obama]

I didn't realize that you hadn't Well,

[Coach Robinson]

I mean, I worked in the NBA for five years, and I would come out before the games when we would play Golden State and I'd see him doing his workout. And I always wanted to go introduce myself and say, you know, I'm Michelle Obama's brother. But I didn't have the nerve to interrupt his workout. I'm looking forward to talking to Aisha because I probably, other than them, I'm the only person who's been to International Smoke at this table.

[Michelle Obama]

Oh, you've been to International Smoke?

[Guest or Host]

Oh, yes, I have.

[Listener Vivian]

All right.

[Aisha Curry]

Okay.

[Michelle Obama]

Well, let's bring them on. Let me give their proper introduction.

[Coach Robinson]

I will do that. All right. So Stephen Curry, on and off the court. Legacy is underscored by transformation and innovation. He is a four time NBA champion, 12 time All Star, New York Times bestselling author, and Olympic gold medalist. And now I have to say he's an actor because. Did you see Goat?

[Michelle Obama]

I sure did.

[Coach Robinson]

That was fun, wasn't it?

[Michelle Obama]

I sure did. But the real star of the couple is.

[Coach Robinson]

The star of the couple is Aisha Curry.

[Michelle Obama]

My girl.

[Coach Robinson]

A renowned restaurateur, chef, two time New York Times bestselling author, actress, producer, and CEO of Sweet July Skin. Her accessible approach to cooking has made her one of the most sought after experts in food and lifestyle. So without further ado, please welcome Aisha and Stephen Curry.

[Michelle Obama]

The Currys are in the house.

[Stephen Curry]

What's going on?

[Aisha Curry]

Thank you for having me.

[Guest or Host]

Oh, thanks for being here.

[Stephen Curry]

Absolutely.

[Guest or Host]

Thanks for being here.

[Michelle Obama]

Hello.

[Coach Robinson]

Good.

[Michelle Obama]

Good to see you.

[Coach Robinson]

Come on in.

[Stephen Curry]

Great to see you too.

[Michelle Obama]

Welcome to imo.

[Guest or Host]

You don't even have to move the

[Coach Robinson]

chair,

[Guest or Host]

so I usually have to scoot the chair out.

[Michelle Obama]

Well, welcome, you guys.

[Aisha Curry]

Thank you for having us and taking the time.

[Michelle Obama]

Y' all got busy lives. But you're here with us and we are grateful, excited. Aisha and I are text buddies.

[Aisha Curry]

We are.

[Michelle Obama]

Because we. You are. You're too busy. I'm not too busy. You are just too busy.

[Aisha Curry]

You know, I know we've become friends, but sometimes I'm still teetering on the line of I don't want to send too many texts.

[Michelle Obama]

I know, and I tell you, it's like, I'm not that nice. So if I don't want. If I don't want to talk to you, you're like, I won't respond, so I will not.

[Coach Robinson]

But she ghosts me sometimes, so I do not.

[Michelle Obama]

That's not true.

[Coach Robinson]

No, that's not true. She texts me back right away.

[Michelle Obama]

But we've gotten to know one Another on so many different levels. Barack loves you to death. Loves you both. But excited because we're partners.

[Stephen Curry]

Yes, we are.

[Michelle Obama]

You know, and our wonderful new venture, Plessy Plesi nutrition. And Steph and Aisha, you guys are the key behind the formulation of our new hydration drink. So, so glad to be working with you on that. And I want to just start by asking why. What makes you excited about Plezi? I know what makes me excited, but you wanna start?

[Aisha Curry]

Sure. So I think for me, it was our kids 100%. So our kids really gravitated towards all of the samples. When we were doing the sampling and we looked at each other and they were like, no, they really like this. And then we started to try and we were like, wait, we really like this. And then when you have something that can be for the kids, it can help you on the court. And then if you mix it with a little tequila, it's nice as well.

[Michelle Obama]

Mixer. And you're winning.

[Coach Robinson]

Okay.

[Aisha Curry]

So that really was the key component for us was did our kids love it?

[Stephen Curry]

100%. And to that, like, the energy we got from them. Obviously our first conversation with you about how much time and energy was put into what was in the bottle in the can, the roadmap of a full scale offering from a nutrition standp. And then now with hydration being a key focus, it's exciting to bring it into the world of sports in a way. But there's such a much more educated kid and family consumer now in terms of what's going in the bottle, obviously the taste has to be great, but we're trying to check all of those boxes. I think, I mean, we're all biased, but I think we accomplished that for sure.

[Coach Robinson]

I would say you're not biased because the Robinson boys, I've got 16 and 14.

[Guest or Host]

Both play hoops, play others.

[Coach Robinson]

They play sports. When Meesh sent us a case of it, I was like, no way they're gonna drink this. Cause they don't like other hydration drinks. And they were like, whoa, what is this? And it was gone in a week,

[Stephen Curry]

so we can't keep it in a week.

[Coach Robinson]

Kudos to you guys.

[Michelle Obama]

Speaking of kids, y' all got a lot of kids.

[Stephen Curry]

We have a lot. We do a lot. 4. We got the same amount.

[Coach Robinson]

Y' all got the right amount of kids.

[Aisha Curry]

Thank year.

[Coach Robinson]

The right amount of kids.

[Stephen Curry]

It's a blessing.

[Coach Robinson]

It's wonderful. But yours are closer in age, so it's.

[Michelle Obama]

Although you got that the baby outlier.

[Stephen Curry]

We do.

[Aisha Curry]

He is the outlier. He's a year and a half.

[Michelle Obama]

Cuz you all have three and three and three and then.

[Aisha Curry]

Yep, then six.

[Michelle Obama]

Then six.

[Stephen Curry]

Big gap. So high school and diapers, right?

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah, yeah.

[Coach Robinson]

So now, given the way. So you're fat. You both come from multiple sibling families. Did you always want to have a lot of kids or did this sort of just happen organically or. I'm sure it happened organically.

[Michelle Obama]

It's like, that's a good Craig. Do you. We have to start with the birds and the bees.

[Aisha Curry]

No, I'm just kidding. Growing up, I never saw myself there, but as an adult. And like when we fell in love, we always said three.

[Stephen Curry]

Yeah.

[Aisha Curry]

And we had the three.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah.

[Aisha Curry]

And then we kind of got that itch and we were looking at each other like it feels like someone's missing. It's like we would get in the car and be like, everybody in here and feel like someone wasn't there.

[Stephen Curry]

And it was more of the conversation

[Aisha Curry]

setting at the table on a daily

[Stephen Curry]

of just having that like, do we want another one? And I was more. If I remember correctly, I was more on like, yeah, let's do it. But then, you know, it would flip too. Where. Yeah, it would flip every six months. We'd be like, ah, nah, I'm off of it. Cause you know, the schedules are crazy and the juggling of the three kids. And then she had some rough pregnancies too. So it was a part of the consideration of putting her through something that's severe. Even with our third kid, Cannon, she had hyperemesis pretty much the whole time. And so that was another consideration.

[Michelle Obama]

And just so people know, because we can do some education on that, because that, you know, more and more women, particularly women of color.

[Aisha Curry]

Yes.

[Michelle Obama]

Can you talk? You feel comfortable talking a bit?

[Aisha Curry]

Of course, yeah. I feel like with the four kids, I maybe am well versed in the. But you're speaking to the hyperemesis, right? Yes. So it's interesting, especially as a black woman within our community, it's oftentimes the pain, the sickness is kind of written off within the healthcare system. And so women will go in and won't be taken seriously because they'll look at you and be like, well, you don't look like you're in pain or you don't look like something's wrong.

[Michelle Obama]

And when you say pain, what were

[Aisha Curry]

you experiencing on top of the dehydration? Just constant sickness. It's essentially morning sickness all day, amplified times 10, sometimes your blood pressure, duration of the pregnancy throughout the entire pregnancy up until Delivery. And so I would encourage, like any women who are expecting, if you're feeling that way, to just continuously advocate for yourself. And if you're feeling like something's not right, keep going back until somebody listens. Cause it's not great to sit in agony like that.

[Michelle Obama]

And Stefan, how were you a support in this?

[Stephen Curry]

What did you do exactly? Okay, you were crazy, especially. Cause with our third child, Ken, and we had the blessing. I was most of all. Three of our babies are July babies. And so our season, especially that last six weeks, eight weeks, I was fully available. And then throughout the season, just trying to be as supportive as I could in the sense of if she had to go in and out of the hospital countless times, especially for with our last one. What's the unit called?

[Aisha Curry]

Antepartum.

[Stephen Curry]

Yes, the Antepartum. But I was trying to obviously just be as supportive and understanding of if I need to pick up some of the other responsibilities, especially with the kids. That was my. I know it's hard to say it. Cause you were going through agony, but it was my favorite part of it. And since she could be as focused on taking care of herself and baby Caius at time, the. And I could kind of, you know, be there to, you know, support and take care of and run the, you know, kids around, make sure that they knew what was going on also. But, like, we're gonna let mom, you know, handle this and she's gonna be good and she's in the right place. So that's the hardest thing. I know you feel like you're always like missing out or like one of the kids has to, you know, they all want attention. Right. And they all deserve the attention. But it's hard to kind of manage all of that, especially through her last pregnancy. I was trying to do my part there, but the hard. I have no idea what hyperemesis feels like, but I've seen her face, I've seen her go. And it's like to the point of that amplification, when she said morning sickness times 10, I saw it up close and personal.

[Michelle Obama]

What's your community of support period? Right. I mean, you guys are so busy and with the season. Look, I had a husband who was in the state legislature and then D.C. right. And it's almost like a season. He could come home on the weekends.

[Aisha Curry]

Right.

[Michelle Obama]

But we had our kids in the midst of that. And Barack was really hands on. I mean, the one reason why I always say, like, I slept in those early years, because we would divide up the time. I mean, I would go to bed at eight, you know, or nine, do that last feeding and then pump and I would just go to sleep, cover my ears and just let him have the night right up until the last feeding because he stayed up late. How did you guys, how do you guys manage that? And as kids, yeah.

[Aisha Curry]

So with our first three, and people would advocate for me and be like, get some help, get some help. I had this strange sense of pride and this need to prove that I could be supermom. And so I didn't do those things. And I was exhausted. And then with his line of work, his games go so late, normal day to day schedule. He also, he's a bit of a deep sleeper.

[Stephen Curry]

When you said Barack was up all night, right?

[Michelle Obama]

He was like, oh, that wouldn't be me.

[Aisha Curry]

So, like, kids are screaming and no, literally, yes, yes.

[Coach Robinson]

Oh, man.

[Aisha Curry]

So then you just kind of give up on that. And so I was.

[Michelle Obama]

It was say it's more trying to wake him up.

[Aisha Curry]

I paid for it, though. I paid for it, like mentally and physically. So then with Kai. Kai, with our fourth now, I said, you know what, we are so fortunate to have the resources to have a little bit of help. So I actually got this time around, had a night nurse to get those six, eight hours and Rip Van Winkle

[Michelle Obama]

over here

[Stephen Curry]

and our last one.

[Aisha Curry]

And then I made a huge difference

[Stephen Curry]

and decided to go to the Olympics like four weeks after Kyos was born. And so that added a little wrinkle into the support she did.

[Guest or Host]

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[Coach Robinson]

So when I was doing my research, I heard the story of you all meeting, which I had never heard. Can you talk a little bit about you guys meeting first as youngsters and then how you remet? Cause I have some questions.

[Stephen Curry]

It's crazy. So the long story short is in High school, I lived in Charlotte, and her family had moved down to Charlotte. She's from Toronto to start high school, and so I'm a year older. And we went to the same. Ended up going to the same youth group at the same church. Central Church of God in Charlotte, North Carolina.

[Michelle Obama]

Shout out.

[Stephen Curry]

Yeah. Pastor Livingston, the whole crew. We ended up eventually getting married there, and he officiated our wedding. So it was awesome. Full circle. But we met there. We were kind of like in the same circle of friends. But all our conversations in high school were about either church or where you going on Wednesday or Canadian candy. It was like, talk about sweet tooth stuff. So, no, it was. No.

[Coach Robinson]

No rap. No. No.

[Stephen Curry]

I don't know if I ain't have any game or if she was nervous or like, vice versa. And neither one of us really kind of. It was just, you know, I feel

[Aisha Curry]

like this is something that gets misconstrued.

[Michelle Obama]

Okay, okay.

[Guest or Host]

Public unconscious.

[Michelle Obama]

Let's clear it up.

[Aisha Curry]

Not that you didn't have game. I was 14 years old.

[Coach Robinson]

I was not.

[Aisha Curry]

Okay,

[Michelle Obama]

yeah, that. That. That does make a difference.

[Aisha Curry]

That is.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah, yeah.

[Stephen Curry]

No, I'm putting you here.

[Aisha Curry]

But did I think you were cute? Absolutely.

[Coach Robinson]

But did you? I. I also heard you had a no athletes rule.

[Aisha Curry]

I. That is true.

[Coach Robinson]

So tell. Tell me about that.

[Aisha Curry]

A very disrespectful comment also on my part. It's so.

[Guest or Host]

Okay, honest. Thank you.

[Michelle Obama]

No, how.

[Coach Robinson]

That's really nice.

[Michelle Obama]

And right now, why is that disrespectful?

[Aisha Curry]

I had very textbook, maybe misconceptions.

[Stephen Curry]

I'm kind of framed like movie plots.

[Aisha Curry]

Movie plots, ideas of athletes, the job stereotype. I was a theater nerd, so I think I was protecting my piece. And just. I don't know. The teacher. It was an activity one day in class, and she said, write down what you would look for. And it was in capital letters, like, God is funny. It was in capital letters. And my parents found it way down the road, I want to say, like maybe eight years ago in an old box. And they were like, ha, ha, look at this. And I'm like, oh, wow, it's embarrassing. But, yeah, I don't know. It was just an activity in class that she had us do. But I definitely did say that, and I think I did think that too, because I remember our first. He calls it a date.

[Stephen Curry]

It was definitely that.

[Aisha Curry]

He calls it a date.

[Stephen Curry]

I worked. I was in la. I came out here my sophomore year in college. I came out here and I knew she had moved out here to pursue acting. So I Hit her up when I was on my way. It was me and my dad coming out. And I actually ditched my dad. We were supposed to go to this party, have this dinner in this party, but I told him, hey, I'm gonna hang out with Aisha. Like, you cool hanging out here. I thought I was gonna be gone like two hours and come back, and it was in the rest of the night. She picked me up in the Astro van she had out here, and we rolled around Hollywood like all the touristy stuff you could do in LA.

[Coach Robinson]

So, Stephan, were you always thinking about 100%?

[Stephen Curry]

100%?

[Aisha Curry]

Really?

[Stephen Curry]

We didn't really talk that much when I went to college back in the day, the Facebook message type thing.

[Michelle Obama]

Were you shy?

[Stephen Curry]

Oh, for sure, for sure.

[Michelle Obama]

Would you say that Aisha. Did he.

[Aisha Curry]

He didn't come across. I'm shy and I'm an introvert. He. He didn't come across that way at. At all.

[Michelle Obama]

What was he. What was he like? Was he Mr. Talking Charisma, walked a lot.

[Aisha Curry]

Super competent, very charismatic, very knowledgeable about what? Just a cool. Any.

[Stephen Curry]

Any.

[Aisha Curry]

Everything. Like something to say about any subject matter.

[Michelle Obama]

He was op.

[Aisha Curry]

Hold a conversation really well.

[Stephen Curry]

Yeah.

[Aisha Curry]

But he was funny. And I think that that was the most important thing because going into us hanging out, we had never really hung out before. And so going in on our own and so going into that day, I didn't know who I was picking up. I picked him up in my three hours later, 90 years stroke.

[Stephen Curry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Aisha Curry]

And I didn't know who I was gonna get. And it was the second he got in the car. It just felt like we were best friends. And we had literally been together since that day.

[Michelle Obama]

That's cool.

[Stephen Curry]

So shout out to. What is that, 2008?

[Michelle Obama]

When, over the course of the date. Aisha, did you feel like.

[Aisha Curry]

Oh, there was a moment when, I mean, we were two young kids, so we were just doing. It was silly. When we were looking for the donut.

[Stephen Curry]

Oh, yeah.

[Aisha Curry]

In the typical. We were looking in cop cars to see if they had donuts in the stereo pack.

[Michelle Obama]

We were kids.

[Aisha Curry]

And I think the way that we were laughing with each other and how we just got a kick out of such a ridiculous situation, I was like, oh, my gosh, I really like him. But I didn't. This is another thing that gets misconstrued. People for some reason think that in the past I've said that he wasn't my type. But what I was saying was I didn't think I was his type. Cause this was Mr.

[Guest or Host]

Cool.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah.

[Aisha Curry]

Yeah. And so I kind of sold myself short in thinking like, oh, there's no way. He must just like me as a friend.

[Coach Robinson]

Aisha.

[Aisha Curry]

So I won't even take it.

[Coach Robinson]

Aisha.

[Aisha Curry]

I'm glad it didn't.

[Guest or Host]

Aisha.

[Stephen Curry]

She left the door open.

[Aisha Curry]

I'm glad I didn't get friend zone.

[Coach Robinson]

I'm a half percent.

[Stephen Curry]

See, every time I texted her call, she picked up the phone. After that, after I was in full court. Friend. After that date. For sure.

[Coach Robinson]

Yeah, for sure. See, we guys know that y' all in charge.

[Aisha Curry]

So when I finally realized that that was the direction it was going in, I verbalized that to him that I was confused. Because if there's one thing I'm gonna do, I'm speak my mind.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah.

[Aisha Curry]

But he looked at me. Cause he had come to my house for two weeks straight at the time, my parents house.

[Michelle Obama]

So that didn't tip you all to

[Stephen Curry]

play with me with her brother?

[Aisha Curry]

Do you think I've been here every. Every night for the past two weeks to play video games with your brothers? I was like, oh, that makes a lot of sense.

[Stephen Curry]

I'm glad it all happened days, for sure. It was a beautiful kind of reconnection at that point.

[Coach Robinson]

Well, it's really interesting to hear that story and then see you guys now with all the stuff you've got going on, kids, businesses, you know, you're still playing, you're doing your thing, everything, all this stuff. And you guys feel like, at least it's my perception from the outside looking in, that you work really well together?

[Stephen Curry]

We do.

[Coach Robinson]

Can you talk about that relationship now, how that's evolved, given how you met and.

[Stephen Curry]

Well, from my perspective, the biggest thing is we've learned each other as we've gone through. You know, even when things get a little rocky or, you know, there's obstacles you have to go over, people feel stressed out or overwhelmed or whatever the case are. We're always working towards the same goal of being there for each other. And I think that's been such a rewarding experience through these 15 years, almost 15 years of marriage. And also acknowledging you don't know everything either. And you're still learning, you're still learning, you're still growing and trying to have humility through that.

[Aisha Curry]

I think we try to also approach all of this from like a it's just us mentality and realizing, like, even with the kids, the kids are gonna grow up and they're gonna leave us. And so we always come back to center, like, with each other. And Even with all of the business. And yes, we're gonna try to make an impact. We're gonna try to do decent things in the world, but at the end of the day, all of this is so fleeting and so making sure that we at the center of it all realize that it's us in this together. We vowed to do this together from day one. And so as long as we keep that, I think that's kind of what's kept us going.

[Michelle Obama]

Aisha, I love that you are plain spoken in life and sort of like me, but sometimes, you know, you're stating what feels like the obvious sometimes in life, and then people interpret that the wrong way. Right. And, you know, I love your vulnerability and your honesty, because I think that's what helps people. You know, it's like, it's one thing to be hashtag relationship goals, but it's another to tell the truth about what it takes. And I tend to do that when I talk about the challenges of marriage and that it's not all that. It's like, I love my husband, I like my husband, you know, but we also wanna be a part of helping couples understand that it does take work and it is hard even in the best marriages. Can you talk a little bit more about that, knowing that this is a safe space of not judgment. Everybody understands humility and blessings, but. But it takes work. And so you don't wanna give up on something when it starts to get hard in the way that it's naturally gonna be.

[Aisha Curry]

Yeah, I think anything great takes work. So I agree with that. I think we're living in this age right now of everybody wants to romanticize everything, and that's a beautiful thing. But I think it's unrealistic, like, in marriage at times, because growth is inevitable and change is inevitable. And I think that's a beautiful thing. Like, if you expect it to stay the same for 15, 20 years, like, that's sad.

[Michelle Obama]

It's sad.

[Aisha Curry]

Then there's a problem.

[Stephen Curry]

We don't run away from the tension on the daily of like, again, I think I heard somebody say, like, neither one of us can quit on the same day. As a philosophy of understanding, you should know your significant other the best and understand when they might be, when they might need a little pick me up or you to carry a little bit more of the load or vice versa. I subscribe to that philosophy. But also the tension in the daily. Try not to run away from it. You run towards it because you know that that's gonna help you get to that next level. Of, I don't know, togetherness or just the seasons of life that kind of come at you. And so for us, if you feel like something's not. If your marriage is not perfect, you're probably right. And that's okay. Nobody, nobody is this.

[Michelle Obama]

Let's talk about how you're raising the kids, you know, the values, how you're thinking about what kind of people you want them to be. Are you parenting the girls differently? And the boys are babies.

[Stephen Curry]

So it's an interesting dynamic with the two older girls and the two younger boys.

[Aisha Curry]

I'm grateful that the girls arrived first because when the boys get to the girls age now, I feel like you'll be done playing. And it's very important to me for them to have him around more. Yep, very important. And so I'm just grateful that that's how it worked out. But it is. Parenting's hard, like we're sure is, especially now we have a 13 year old. She's gonna go to high school next year. We're doing the whole high school.

[Michelle Obama]

Scared of her yet? Is she scaring you?

[Aisha Curry]

And I'm gonna need you these next couple of years.

[Michelle Obama]

I am here. It gets. Cause sometimes, well, Barack got scared, you know, he got scared off. Sasha, the feisty one was very scary to her father.

[Stephen Curry]

There's a lot of scoreboard washing going on in our house. I call it where why can't I do that? And why can't. Oh, and how you parent, you have to parent each one of them a little different. As the older they get, the more

[Michelle Obama]

they notice that, you know, it means something to at end the, at all these stages to, you know, just have these honest conversations where your kids can, they can disagree with you, they can point out stuff because it's like, I think that gave us the confidence that you need when you're out there and you. And at some point you gotta advocate for yourself in life. Oh, for sure, right. And if you don't feel like you've been taught to advocate for yourself at home, like then who, you know, where do you get the practice of speaking up for yourself and demanding a level of respect and then how to do it? You know, all of that stuff is practice at home around the table, which doesn't require any money. You know, it doesn't require. My parents didn't go to college. They didn't, you know, they weren't wealthy and connected, but they had just a baseline common sense and a respect for us as humans that just sort of came through. And I say that to all parents. Because we sit here very privileged, right. With resources and so on and so forth. But we weren't raised. We were raised in a little bitty apartment with a mother that stayed home and a father that was a pump engineer at the water filtration plant all his life. I think he never had rarely got a new car. You know, we went on one family vacation every year and drove to this Duke's happy holiday resort. Now, we did not have resources, but we had parents who fundamentally liked us. You know, in the same way that you build that, like, relationship in a marriage. Yeah. It's like your kids have to know that you like who they are truly for themselves.

[Stephen Curry]

Foreign.

[Guest or Host]

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[Michelle Obama]

I want to ask particularly how you doing? I mean, how am I doing? Yes, because you have a lot on your plate and you're doing it well.

[Aisha Curry]

Thank you. I had more on my plate and it came to a head where I was like, okay, I gotta lay it all out and figure out what, what do I really love, what is important to me, what do I value? And so I've like really streamlined things, I'd say over the past four, three, four years, but I'm doing really well. I feel like I'm kind of in a, I don't want to say the word smooth sailing because I don't want to jinx myself in the parenting department.

[Michelle Obama]

We'll be doing that in the 60.

[Aisha Curry]

The parenting situation is feeling really good. You know, we had our fourth, and so I'm feeling comfortable in my body again. I'm feeling more like myself, and that's such a good feeling. And also allows me to be a better parent in some strange way, because I feel like I know who I am again. And so that's been really great.

[Michelle Obama]

How do you carve out the space to take care of yourself in the midst of it all?

[Aisha Curry]

I never used to do it, and now I just make it a priority. I don't know how else to say it. I put it on the calendar, I make it a priority, and I get it done. Oftentimes now, even just for getting my body moving and getting outside, I just bring the baby along with me and we get it done. But I find I have to be outside multiple times a week. I notice a difference from a mental health perspective.

[Michelle Obama]

And so because you can be with four kids, it's like you could be in the house forever, and they have

[Aisha Curry]

so much going on themselves.

[Stephen Curry]

The house or the car?

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah, I know. Every time we talk to you all, you all are in the car.

[Stephen Curry]

The first meeting we had or the first call we had, we were in the back of the car.

[Michelle Obama]

I was like, do they live in the car?

[Stephen Curry]

We were right over a soccer game.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah.

[Stephen Curry]

We were trying to go to the

[Michelle Obama]

soccer game, and I was like, we got it. Brock and I go to watch the game.

[Aisha Curry]

But we were at the soccer game. We were in the Sprinter, and the kids were so mad at us because they don't like when we bring the sprinter to school. Cause it's embarrassing.

[Coach Robinson]

Oh, really? Are you kidding?

[Aisha Curry]

Oh, they're so embarrassed.

[Coach Robinson]

Oh, my goodness.

[Michelle Obama]

They just want to be regular people.

[Guest or Host]

See, Austin and Aaron are like, can

[Coach Robinson]

we get a sprinter?

[Michelle Obama]

That's until their parents come out of one. I mean, Malia and Sasha never wanted Barack to come to their stuff with the presidential motorcade. You talk about.

[Stephen Curry]

That's a different look.

[Michelle Obama]

I mean, they're just like that. Just don't. Oh, yeah, don't come. Why are those men on the roof with machine guns? But they don't like the sprinter, huh?

[Aisha Curry]

No, the girls don't.

[Stephen Curry]

They don't at all.

[Michelle Obama]

How do. How do you manage integrating into normal parent life? I know that was something that we had to work on. I mean, how do you. How do you make your kids feel normal?

[Stephen Curry]

I guess it's a challenge, for sure.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah.

[Stephen Curry]

You know, worried about. We're at the, like, sleep overnights or, you know, extracurriculars. Especially with Riley, she wants to be a little bit more independent. And can you drop me off here and do this? And, like, meeting new parents and not making it a big deal, but making sure there's boundaries around how we move so that we feel safe. And if we feel safe, then it allows us to take that next necessary step, I feel like, to allow your kid to explore. Right. You want them to be curious. And it's just showing up, I think, is the biggest deal that you meet people, you meet parents. We do try to, in terms of, like, especially for sports activities, school activities, that type of thing, where for our kids and seeing, like, that's how we. Normal is a weird word, but that's a normal experience. Like, we're gonna be at your game. We're gonna be loud, yelling, going crazy. We're gonna be embarrassing you after your theater production performance.

[Michelle Obama]

We do do that.

[Stephen Curry]

Do all of that.

[Aisha Curry]

Pride myself

[Stephen Curry]

and celebrate them. Right? I think we try to do that. The social part of it, there's challenges, there's considerations that we never thought we'd have to make or take to make sure you can let your kids kind of go out and thrive. But. But part of that, too, is, again, still learning, because every year is so different.

[Aisha Curry]

It's all so weird. It is weird. I think we're doing a good job of allowing them to go very normal

[Stephen Curry]

to the most level. I don't know how y' all did it to the point of.

[Michelle Obama]

But, you know, it's all the same thing, you know? Like, the girls growing up, they didn't want people to come to their house, the White House, because it felt like it's not a normal house. And I was like, I guarantee you. Your friends want to come.

[Aisha Curry]

Yes.

[Michelle Obama]

They want to watch a movie in the movie theater. It's like, why would somebody want to come here? And I was like, but they do. So it took them a second to kind of understand that it's not. It isn't normal from where they came from in Chicago, but it is their normal. And I think it's like, everything. Our kids reacted the way we reacted. So if we showed up special.

[Stephen Curry]

Yeah, exactly.

[Michelle Obama]

If we just showed up and was like, look the other way. We're just here. It's not a big deal, you know? Then slowly they followed suit. And I also found that the school environment followed suit.

[Stephen Curry]

So they meet you or meet your energy, you know, you'd hope so.

[Coach Robinson]

Yeah. It's wonderful. And just watching kids develop Giving them what we can. It is a joy to go to practice every day with my old self and rickety bones, but it's really been a treat.

[Michelle Obama]

So you won't even be as old

[Coach Robinson]

as him when I know you'll be able to get out there with him, show him some things.

[Guest or Host]

I show em that I can shoot

[Stephen Curry]

just for some credibility. Absolutely, absolutely.

[Coach Robinson]

And then that's it.

[Guest or Host]

It's one of the kids. Wait, Aisha.

[Coach Robinson]

One of the kids asked me today. He was so. I mean, these are high school kids, right? He's a senior and he's like, hey, Coach Robinson, can you still get up there and dunk? And I felt bittersweet. You know, it was nice of him to think that I could dunk. But not being able to dunk anymore was the bitter part.

[Michelle Obama]

It's like, can you still jump?

[Guest or Host]

Yeah.

[Coach Robinson]

And speaking of basketball, how did you guys decide to do goat? How did that all come about?

[Michelle Obama]

Because your team, that was so good.

[Coach Robinson]

Was kind enough to let us take

[Guest or Host]

a look at that.

[Michelle Obama]

It's coming out today.

[Stephen Curry]

It's out today. I know. We're dating this. Yeah, it's out today.

[Michelle Obama]

So good.

[Stephen Curry]

Thank you so much. It's been a seven year journey to me. Oh, wow.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah. Animation takes forever.

[Stephen Curry]

Animation takes forever. And then that initial process of working with the Sony Animation. Sony Studios. We had an initial meeting and then the idea of having an animated story that was sports related then brought me in. Basketball in an all animal world was kind of just a starting point. And my favorite part about the whole thing is there's something for the entire family. The comedy is high paced, high action. The visuals are stunning in the all animal world. And. And Aisha is the she's Carol, the diner ownership who's always looking out.

[Coach Robinson]

When you guys were sort of working through this, was it always you were gonna be in it as well? How did that come about? Because you all are pretty darn right good at it.

[Stephen Curry]

I was drafting off of her because I've never done voice acting and she's been acting her whole life. And so when we had the opportunity to do some of the characters and look at, you know, how we were filling out the team and Lenny the giraffe was the exact opposite of me as a player and a person. He's like laid back, kind of not really focused, just kind of there. He's been cast around the entire Roarball league. He's played for 10 different teams in 10 years. He likes music more than he likes Roar ball.

[Michelle Obama]

He wants to rap, he wants to Rap.

[Stephen Curry]

It was a little bit more. A little on the nose for Aisha in terms of the culinary kind of connection for Carol, the diner. But that whole. I don't know how you felt from the voice acting perspective, it was so much fun.

[Aisha Curry]

It's so different from being on your traditional set. There's a lot that goes into the voice work. I wanted to have a different voice so bad.

[Michelle Obama]

You wanted to completely change your voice. So what would have been.

[Coach Robinson]

To change your voice?

[Michelle Obama]

What would have been your voice? I want to hear what you wanted.

[Guest or Host]

What would you.

[Aisha Curry]

I gave them a sample and they looked at me after and they were like, just. I think your regular voice.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah. What was one of the type of.

[Aisha Curry]

I wanted to be like, you don't get any pie. Or maybe have a Jamaican accent. Be like, hey, Wagwan, welcome, welcome.

[Michelle Obama]

They're like, no.

[Aisha Curry]

They were like, no. Your regular voice is great. Thank you.

[Michelle Obama]

Well, your regular voice was great. Congratulations.

[Stephen Curry]

Thank you very much.

[Michelle Obama]

Way to go. All right. Just another thing on the caps. How is it working together? I mean, I work with my husband sometimes, you know, I mean, you are essentially two principles. Okay.

[Stephen Curry]

For sure.

[Michelle Obama]

Right. I mean, it's not like Aisha's your supporting cast. She's got her own thing. Maybe I should ask Aisha.

[Aisha Curry]

Yeah.

[Michelle Obama]

How do you, you know, how do you break through the noise of him.

[Aisha Curry]

Yeah.

[Michelle Obama]

As you were working to assert what you want your vision to stay seen in it all. Cause you had definitely done that. And I know it's more than a notion to do that.

[Aisha Curry]

Yeah. I think that's an interesting. That's an interesting question. Very multi pronged. But I think, do I like working with him? Absolutely. I love it. We shot a show years ago called About Last Night, and we had so much fun on set together. I think where it gets dicey for me is where I never want to feel like I'm inserting myself or just being thrown into the mix. I think because I work so hard and sometimes I do feel like I have a point to prove. And so I like to be able to kind of stand on my own two feet sometimes. But I feel like he's always been so gracious about either bringing me along or hyping me up or, like, true, like, truly putting me on a pedestal even when I don't want to be up there. And he's been so great about just being such a support system for me. And truly, like my partner in crime, he's never been like, stand back here. Stand right here. It's always like, no you're gonna stand right here with me. And I think that's been, that to me is very romantic.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah.

[Aisha Curry]

So I love that he's always done that for me and been that person for me. Kind of my confidence when it's maybe

[Michelle Obama]

lacking in myself and it gets easier over time. I mean, I've been saying this a lot. It's like I'm 62 now and it wasn't until my 50s that I felt like I could claim what I know, I understood, you know, And I think that may be a woman thing. Right. I mean, men are encouraged to, you know, like you, A man at 20, it's like you don't know anything, you know, I mean, you were the man, you both were the men in high school, you didn't know anything, you know, but you're handed that, you know, you're encouraged to be that. Right. Whereas think us as women, we're always second guessing ourselves and wondering, he doesn't really like me. And we don't get to make the first move sometimes in life, you know, And I try to figure out what that is because it's not that I wasn't confident, but it took me a while to be like, I, I know what I'm talking about.

[Guest or Host]

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[Coach Robinson]

You guys are both so accomplished at such a young age. What have you learned from Aisha? And Aisha, what have you learned from Stephan?

[Stephen Curry]

I've learned from Aisha what true, like ambition and passion really looks like on a daily basis. And that's not just career wise, that's for your family. Like, she lives every day with her full self and like, I know it's scary and vulnerable at times because you want to kind of, you know, protect yourself. And she puts herself out there and I'm a little bit more reserved in that respect. And that fire, like, I wish I had more of it. I can get there on the court and like, you know, you have those moments but on a daily basis, like, I'm a little bit more kind of even keel and I wish I had that instinct. Like just she has that on a daily basis and it motivates me just, you know, when things can get a little drag or, you know, things aren't really going your way or there's not really a clear path to get what you want. Like that fire and that passion is a big deal. I definitely have learned a little bit from the way that she shows up in that way.

[Coach Robinson]

That's a lot from a guy who's got four championships.

[Michelle Obama]

Well, that's all he's got. No I'm just. I'm messing with you, Stefan.

[Aisha Curry]

I think I've learned from him. On the flip side, or what I'd like. What was it what I'd like from you?

[Coach Robinson]

Learn from.

[Aisha Curry]

Learn from what I've learned from you. I think on the flip side of what he said about me, for me, he is so even keeled, and he can compartmentalize really big emotions very well. And he does know how to block out the noise. And so I've learned little by little, I think, how to do more of that. Because like you said, I'm very passionate. I'm fiery, and sometimes it works, but sometimes it doesn't, and vice versa. And then I think I've learned this unwavering work ethic. I've never seen anything like it, but it obviously manifests itself in how things work out for him in his basketball career. I'm like, tomorrow he'll be up 6:30, you know, working on himself when he doesn't necessarily have to. And so I've just, year after year after year, seen him do things when he doesn't have to. And then I see the results that come from that, and it's extremely inspiring.

[Michelle Obama]

Oh, my God. Yeah, thank you. Let's bottle some of that up and sprinkle it over the. That's very sweet.

[Stephen Curry]

Thank you.

[Michelle Obama]

I'm so proud of you too.

[Stephen Curry]

Oh, stop, stop, stop.

[Michelle Obama]

All right, we're gonna do the listener question. Cause the listener question will lead to a little more discussion.

[Coach Robinson]

Yeah. Yeah. So our question today is from Vivian in Raleigh, North Carolina.

[Michelle Obama]

Vivian, shout out to.

[Listener Vivian]

I am the first of three children, two girls and one boy. It always seems I'm the mother of everyone, from my parents to my siblings, then to my spouse and 12 year old. I recently lost my dad, so it's been very hard on my mom. She wants me to call daily and respond to all the texts daily. I love my entire family and I want to be there for them. But I'm also a registered nurse, and I owe it to my pediatric patients and their families to give them excellent care. I am working to go back to school, to become a family nurse practitioner or go to medical school. I feel I am not enough, but my husband believes that I am smart and I can do all things through Christ. I am also a precinct official, thanks to your book. Now they want me to take on more responsibilities and fears gripping me, but I really want to do more. I was privileged to go canvassing with my daughter, knocking on doors. She was so excited about doing what Mrs. Obama did. With her dad. My question is, how can I juggle all this and still look fly, Be a great daughter, sister, wife and a mom.

[Stephen Curry]

I don't even know where to start.

[Aisha Curry]

The first thing that comes to mind for me is. Is like thinking of the cups and not these cups, but how they say you can't pour from an empty cup. And I think for women, I think that statement is false because generally women have many cups. There are many cups we're dealing with. And so I like my. Is it advice would be your opinion. My opinion, yes, that's right. Would be. I mean, also, as women, we tend to ruminate on things when we're in a different situation, thinking about all the other things that need to go on. And so I think my opinion would be to realize, separate everything into these separate cups and realize when you're pouring into that cup, it's just that cup in that moment. And to try and tune everything else out and get to it when you need to get to it so that you can fully give yourself to whatever it is that you're focusing on at that time, whether it's, you know, at the hospital or with your mom or with the kids or whatever else it is you're doing. I think there will be so much peace of mind if you can just compartmentalize those moments.

[Stephen Curry]

You gotta applaud her and her.

[Michelle Obama]

For sure.

[Aisha Curry]

Yes.

[Stephen Curry]

The responsibility that she's carrying for so many people that she knows and she doesn't know or she's beaten on a daily basis at her work.

[Guest or Host]

Work.

[Stephen Curry]

Have grace for you with yourself too, I'd say, too. Because those days where you don't feel like you're. You're killing it. Probably the days that you're killing it the most.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah.

[Aisha Curry]

But it's also okay not to kill it every single day.

[Stephen Curry]

That's true. That's true. But having grace with yourself, I guess, is the biggest piece of.

[Listener Vivian]

Yeah.

[Stephen Curry]

As you. And hopefully she can set healthy boundaries for herself as she goes to aspire for. What does that mean?

[Aisha Curry]

What does that mean? Like what. Cause what.

[Stephen Curry]

People should be able to support her and her endeavors as well. In the sense of, like, I don't know how much her mom reaches out or feels like it's maybe a burden at times or maybe not, but.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah.

[Stephen Curry]

But if there's moments where she can have the space to go after the things that she wants to and she creates that room for herself, that the boundaries are. The people respect that and allow her to go pursue what she wants to and that it's okay. Even if somebody else gets the short end of the stick for a day or a week or a month, that's

[Coach Robinson]

kind of what I.

[Stephen Curry]

It's not a bad thing, actually.

[Aisha Curry]

I think I read that in your first book and you said, say no, they will be okay, and we'll move on.

[Michelle Obama]

That's what I said. That's exactly. Yeah.

[Coach Robinson]

It's just what I wrote down. Learn to say no.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah, yeah, well. And, you know, look, Vivian sounds like. And I say this a lot. She sounds like what I call a 120 percenter. You know, like everybody around this table, like, you don't think you're killing it when you were doing everything. It's like that extra percentage and you feel like, okay, now I'm putting it in. When, you know, life can be okay at 70% and sometimes at 40% and at 30%, you know, I'm learning right now. Yeah, you're starting to learn. And it's a sort of a conglomeration of what we've all said. It's like, you can't do everything at 120%, and you can't, and you don't have to. And you learn that over time. Like, maybe you can't be there for your mom in the exact way that she wants you to be there for her. And it's okay. Right? Because maybe if you're not giving 120% to your mom and 40% at times, somebody else will come in. But if she's trying to fill all the cups herself, you know, there's no vacuum for need. Right. If you're doing it all. And some people aren't 20%, 120 percenters, they'll be a 20 percenter a lot. She may be surrounded by other siblings that are just putting in 20%, because Vivian's gonna do it all.

[Stephen Curry]

The rest. Yeah.

[Michelle Obama]

You know, if you don't need. Say you need help, nobody is gonna help you. You know, So I say, do less.

[Stephen Curry]

Write that down.

[Aisha Curry]

Do less.

[Michelle Obama]

Do less. And learn to be okay with it. Yeah, that's.

[Aisha Curry]

No, actually, I was just sitting here thinking. I was just sitting here. Every time you say, like, dang, people probably don't even see the 20.

[Michelle Obama]

No, they don't.

[Aisha Curry]

They don't even know it's there.

[Michelle Obama]

It's all in here. That's in your mind and heart, and you're measuring yourself.

[Coach Robinson]

Yeah.

[Michelle Obama]

And people are like, you know, like. You say no, and they're like, okay, fine, next.

[Coach Robinson]

Yeah. You know, but I like the cups metaphor because people don't See all the cups? You see, right? You see all these cups and they're like, ooh, those three cups. You're handling things.

[Michelle Obama]

They don't even know you got.

[Coach Robinson]

They don't even know they got table full of cups.

[Stephen Curry]

That's a good point.

[Coach Robinson]

Well, Vivian, I hope that was helpful.

[Stephen Curry]

Absolutely.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah. But like you said, Stefan, props to you for holding it down. You know, it's like there are a lot of people out in the world who are trying to do it all. And hopefully this, you know, gives you some guidance, takes a load off, and you don't feel guilty about, you know, looking out for yourself every now and then.

[Coach Robinson]

Good advice.

[Michelle Obama]

Okay, great advice. Well, what's next for the Currys? Not like there has to be. Cause we just talked about that, but

[Stephen Curry]

I know we're.

[Michelle Obama]

What are you looking forward to? Like, not even projects, but just life.

[Aisha Curry]

We have our 15 year wedding anniversary this summer. Very happy about that.

[Michelle Obama]

Yay.

[Coach Robinson]

Absolutely.

[Michelle Obama]

Congratulations.

[Guest or Host]

Thank you.

[Stephen Curry]

But 17th year in the league. See how many more years on the court. Hopefully it's not over too soon. But it is at that stage where you start to think about, you know, appreciating every year because. But then after that, who knows? We're very bad at predicting the future. At least I am. I said, oh, next year's not gonna be that crazy.

[Michelle Obama]

Right?

[Aisha Curry]

Right.

[Stephen Curry]

Okay, I said that. All right. Next year.

[Michelle Obama]

Has it been like that for a few years?

[Aisha Curry]

Then you gotta hear about it from me.

[Stephen Curry]

I'm the master at that.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah, I have a. I'm married to one of those.

[Aisha Curry]

It's like, they just get so optimist. Oh, my God.

[Michelle Obama]

I call it poor executive function. It's like, you know, it's gonna take a lot of work to do that. And everything is so big. Every. Every idea is so big. It's just.

[Aisha Curry]

It's just exhausting

[Stephen Curry]

having fun with it, though.

[Michelle Obama]

Well, it's been great having you guys spend some time with us.

[Stephen Curry]

Absolutely.

[Michelle Obama]

Thank you so much for dropping all the knowledge and being vul. And, Aisha, take care of yourself, your sanity.

[Aisha Curry]

I will.

[Michelle Obama]

It's just noise. Yes. All right. The truth is, right before you and I will fight somebody.

[Stephen Curry]

That's it. That's it.

[Aisha Curry]

Thank you.

[Coach Robinson]

And Stefan, take your time. You don't have to leave soon.

[Stephen Curry]

I got you. I got you.

[Aisha Curry]

I hear you.

[Coach Robinson]

No, this has been great. Thank you.

[Stephen Curry]

We appreciate you.

[Aisha Curry]

Thank you for making us feel comfortable.

[Stephen Curry]

Absolutely.