Turn off Your Socials with Angel Reese

Summary

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Summary: IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson

Episode: "Turn off Your Socials with Angel Reese"

Original air date: April 22, 2026
Special Guest: Angel Reese (NCAA Champion, WNBA All-Star, Entrepreneur, Podcast Host)

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Episode Overview

In this vibrant, insightful episode, Michelle Obama and her brother Craig Robinson sit down with Angel Reese—a trailblazing athlete and rising cultural icon—to discuss fame, social media, self-worth, family support, navigating criticism, and staying true to yourself in the spotlight. The conversation is honest, warm, and sprinkled with humor, personal stories, and actionable wisdom for young listeners and anyone learning to thrive under pressure.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Angel Reese: Her Path & Mindset

• Angel reflects on her rapid rise to success, the pressures of fame at a young age, and building her own path both on and off the court.
• Quote: "I'm still 23. I'm, like, living this life once and, like, try to give myself so much grace, but at the same time, it's all coming so fast. I'm still soaking it up." (04:09, Angel Reese)
• She credits her mother for her resilience and strategic mindset, noting how she was raised to be independent, focused, and “have a plan.”
• Quote: "My mom was an independent single mom that raised me and my brother ... I was highly recruited. Sixth grade, seventh grade, eighth grade." (13:04, Angel Reese)

2. Brand Building, NIL Era & Business Savvy

• Angel discusses the business side of college sports, her historic NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) deals, and how she chose to work with Reebok, emphasizing the importance of being prioritized as a Black woman athlete.
• She broke away from a big agency with her (now longtime) agent Jeanine, betting on herself.
• Quote: "We took a bold step, and we're like, we're gonna do this on our own... a lot of people are signed to really big agencies, but we're very small. It was all women at one point." (14:54, Angel Reese)
• Reese expresses a desire to use her influence to uplift others, especially young women.

3. Family Ties & Upbringing

• Angel’s upbringing in a tight-knit, basketball-loving family shaped her tenacity. Her mother coached her, her brother played alongside her, and she describes sibling rivalry and support.
• The three banter about tall families, “mama’s boys,” and the unique bonds between siblings.
• Quote: "I would never take that point for granted, like, having my mom, like, coach me. It was fine." (17:42, Angel Reese)

4. Identity, Dating, and Independence

• The hosts and Angel candidly discuss dating as successful Black women, the importance of independence in relationships, and navigating traditional gender expectations.
• Quote: "I think it takes a strong man to be able to be open to a woman that has her own, that works on her own, that does her own things and doesn't necessarily need you." (27:32, Angel Reese)
• Michelle uses a basketball analogy: “A relationship is like a basketball team. Everybody’s gotta be able to shoot, dribble, score, and defend...” (28:42, Michelle Obama)

5. Social Media, Fame & Protecting Your Peace

• The episode’s main theme emerges: managing mental health amid social media scrutiny. Angel and Michelle agree younger generations especially need to separate digital perception from real life.
• Quote: “Social media is not real.” (33:07, Angel Reese)
• Quote: "A lot of young people don't even know that they need to protect themselves...I'm glad to hear that you understand this fully." (33:20, Michelle Obama)

6. Overcoming Criticism and Building Resilience

• Angel shares how she developed resilience through being bullied as a child, rejection, and sometimes unfair public criticism—even after big wins.
• She limits her inner circle, values loyalty, and learns from each setback while maintaining her joy.
• Quote: “I try not to let the negative outshine the positive ... I keep my circle very small. I love who I love on. I am big on loyalty.” (36:10, Angel Reese)
• Craig offers practical advice: "Just worry about who's at this kitchen table right here." (39:10, Craig Robinson)

7. Life Off the Court & New Ventures

• Angel discusses her goals: making the USA Basketball World Cup team, building her shoe and fashion lines, acting (including work with Idris Elba), and potentially launching her own cooking show.
• She talks about wanting to create shoes and makeup products specifically for tall women and athletes.

8. The Angel C. Reese Foundation & Giving Back

• Angel is passionate about giving back to her Baltimore high school with scholarships and community events.
• She shares her intent to teach financial literacy and confidence to girls, acting as a visible and tangible role model.
• Quote: "When you see it, you can believe it and you can be it." (47:18, Angel Reese)

9. Listener Q&A & Parting Advice

• Angel and Michelle answer a listener’s question about staying true to your purpose amid outside expectations.
• Quote: "Don't compare yourself to others... nobody's timing is like God's timing... social media has had us in this chokehold that you have to succeed at a certain time, or if you don't, then you'll fail." (65:12, Angel Reese)
• Michelle sums up: “If you're lucky, life is long...The most important thing in the thick of it is just being a good person. That lasts through everybody.” (65:41, Michelle Obama)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On handling negative media: "I'll take a fine before I have to go to media and feel like my back is against the wall." (37:28, Angel Reese)
• On "life be lifein'": "A relationship is like a basketball team... 'cause you never know what life is gonna have before you. You know, it's like you want a partner that is bringing what you're bringing to the table. Because life happens. ... Life be lifein'." (28:42, Michelle Obama / 29:11, Angel Reese)
• On gratitude: "My new thing is being tired of the things that I prayed for, and I'm just grateful to be tired from the things that I prayed for." (67:26, Angel Reese)
• On beauty & confidence in sport: "And this is why women, we are so amazing, because in addition to being able to dunk and rebound, we got we looking cute on top of it." (63:49, Michelle Obama)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Introduction & Angel’s Resume (02:22–04:49)
• Angel’s Early Life & Upbringing (13:04–18:48)
• On Nil, Branding & Independence (10:29–15:52)
• Coping with Fame & Mental Health (32:14–34:30)
• Resilience and Advice for Young People (35:34–39:30)
• Dating, Relationships, and Gender Roles (27:11–30:34)
• Foundation & Community Impact (46:04–47:19)
• Listener Question: Balancing Purpose & Pressure (64:57–67:12)
• Final Reflections & Gratitude (67:25–68:03)

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Language, Tone & Atmosphere

The tone is candid, empowering, and supportive, with playful familial teasing and a mix of practical advice, heartfelt encouragement, and laughter. Angel’s perspective is insightful and honest; Michelle and Craig act as wise, compassionate mentors.

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For Those Who Haven’t Listened

This conversation isn’t just about sports—it's a masterclass in forging your own path, building resilience, and standing strong in your worth, all while staying grounded and giving back. Angel Reese’s journey provides inspiration and concrete life lessons for young people navigating pressure, social media, and success—generously guided by Michelle Obama’s and Craig Robinson’s warmth and wisdom.

Transcript

[Michelle Obama]

You have a beat face for a game.

[Angel Reese]

Not like, but I'll do like a little concealer and a little blush and keep it going.

[Craig Robinson]

What's beat for the. For the male listeners.

[Angel Reese]

That's like the guys. Your face is like done.

[Michelle Obama]

Your face is clean. Like the makeup artist beat your face, girl beats it at God.

[Angel Reese]

You're beat. You're God.

[Michelle Obama]

So that's why having a good beat means your face is done.

[Craig Robinson]

An adjective.

[Michelle Obama]

It's made up.

[Craig Robinson]

Got it. Okay.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah, it's an adjective. Yeah. You know, it's me.

[Craig Robinson]

I thought it was a noun. You don't have makeup on in the game, do you?

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah, we just said where were you?

[Angel Reese]

I missed that. I didn't think you were sitting here. Wear a little something.

[Michelle Obama]

He was trying to understand what a beat is. This episode of IMO is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Mish Craig Robinson.

[Craig Robinson]

How are you?

[Michelle Obama]

I'm doing great. I'm doing pretty good. How about you?

[Craig Robinson]

I feel busy. Yeah, well, when you have kids still in school, it's a busy time.

[Michelle Obama]

And you're in basketball season.

[Craig Robinson]

That's right.

[Michelle Obama]

So. And again, how many teams are you facilitating this?

[Craig Robinson]

So I'm coaching 8th grade as well as assistant coaching high school. And then the NABC is preparing for the Final four, which is an abc is national association of Basketball Coaches.

[Michelle Obama]

Which is your side.

[Craig Robinson]

It's my full time job. And you know, interesting thing, the final four is in Indianapolis this year.

[Michelle Obama]

Oh, so that's good for you.

[Craig Robinson]

That's good for me because it's close by. But all three divisions are having their championship in the Indianapolis area.

[Michelle Obama]

So that's going to be Division 1,

[Craig Robinson]

Division 2, Division 3. So it's going to be. I won't say that. I'll say it'll be a festival. Yeah, this is. It's rare that they have em all together. So it's sort of a celebration of the game.

[Michelle Obama]

Talking about basketball.

[Craig Robinson]

Oh, man.

[Michelle Obama]

Talking about.

[Craig Robinson]

Yes.

[Michelle Obama]

Talking about some goats. Talking about.

[Craig Robinson]

Talking about an honorary Chicagoan.

[Michelle Obama]

Yes. We've got. I'm really excited for our guests this episode. Craig, why don't you do the honors and then we can get to.

[Craig Robinson]

I will, I will. We are talking about today we have Angel Reese on. She is an NCAA champion, two time WNBA all star. In addition to her incredible achievements on the court, she hosts the podcast Unapologetically Angel, a fellow podcaster, which I'm really interested in talking to her about that. She's also an entrepreneur with brands like Reebok, Victoria's Secret, Reese's which is one of my favorite candies and beets. And in 2023, she founded the Angel C. Reese foundation, dedicated to empowering girls and women through sports education, financial literacy, and more.

[Michelle Obama]

That's great.

[Craig Robinson]

And she wore her heels today, so she's taller than me, which makes me feel so good. Without further ado, Angel Reese.

[Angel Reese]

Great.

[Michelle Obama]

It's so good to have you here. You are gorgeous. Gorgeous, gorgeous. Well, this is what we call in our family normal height.

[Angel Reese]

Yes.

[Michelle Obama]

You know, tall queens. And we wear our heels.

[Angel Reese]

Yes.

[Craig Robinson]

Wear your heels.

[Michelle Obama]

Ladies, Me, my girls, it's like brothers. Better. You know, better watch out. Get the confidence up. It's like you might have to be looking up for a second, but, girl, you are gorgeous.

[Angel Reese]

Thank you. Gorgeous. So happy to be here.

[Michelle Obama]

I am so happy to have you here.

[Angel Reese]

Thank you.

[Michelle Obama]

Oh, my God. Reading your resume, your introduction, I would think he'd be about 50 years old.

[Angel Reese]

I'm dead. That's so funny.

[Michelle Obama]

But I'm, like, you, a baby.

[Angel Reese]

I am a baby.

[Michelle Obama]

You are a baby.

[Angel Reese]

I know. And I try to, like, remember that. Sometimes I get caught off guard. Yeah. I'm still 23. I'm, like, living this life once and, like, try to give myself so much grace, but at the same time, just, like, it's all coming so fast. Like, everything came so fast for me, so I'm still soaking it up.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah. But you are handling yourself beautifully.

[Angel Reese]

Thank you.

[Michelle Obama]

I mean, it's not just what you do, but the way you carry yourself, girl.

[Craig Robinson]

Thank you.

[Angel Reese]

Thank you.

[Michelle Obama]

It is really a joy to watch you manage it all, and you do it with a smile on your face, with an excellent attitude.

[Angel Reese]

Thank you.

[Michelle Obama]

So I am just.

[Angel Reese]

It's an honor coming from you. The queen. The Queen. The queen. Thank.

[Craig Robinson]

You know, I don't think they were making girls like you when I was growing up.

[Angel Reese]

What does that mean?

[Craig Robinson]

I mean.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah.

[Angel Reese]

What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean?

[Craig Robinson]

All of what you said. And can get 10 rebounds a game.

[Angel Reese]

Okay. Yeah.

[Craig Robinson]

And can get 10 rebounds again.

[Angel Reese]

I mean, Lisa, Leslie, you know, she was. She was my girl.

[Michelle Obama]

I just saw her at the All Star Game, so she's still saying, oh, we missed you.

[Angel Reese]

Oh, no, I know.

[Michelle Obama]

You were on tv.

[Angel Reese]

I wasn't there. I wasn't there.

[Michelle Obama]

No, I saw her across the way.

[Craig Robinson]

But, see, she's still young. I mean, it's just. Oh, man, it's so nice to see.

[Angel Reese]

It's a breath of fresh air.

[Craig Robinson]

It sure is. Yes.

[Angel Reese]

Yes.

[Craig Robinson]

And the passion with which you play is so fun.

[Angel Reese]

I love It.

[Michelle Obama]

Well, let me start, because I hear that I am a reality TV fan, and I know you are into Love Island. Girls got me into Love Island.

[Angel Reese]

Really?

[Michelle Obama]

You know, because I wasn't. You know, I would always just click past it because it just seemed like too much.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah.

[Michelle Obama]

And then one time they were like, mom, you just have to sit here and watch with us. And I think it was the season before last, and, man, was I hooked.

[Craig Robinson]

I mean.

[Michelle Obama]

Oh, it's crazy. It's crazy.

[Craig Robinson]

I can't help you here.

[Angel Reese]

You're not watching?

[Michelle Obama]

No, he doesn't watch any of it. We're trying to get him.

[Angel Reese]

What's your show?

[Craig Robinson]

Not World of Sports.

[Michelle Obama]

It's some old. You know, he's watching old tv. He's, like, watching gun.

[Craig Robinson]

Sports isn't on anymore, but if it

[Michelle Obama]

were, he'd be watching Wide World of Sports now.

[Craig Robinson]

Who sounds like they don't know pop culture? Goodness. You know what? I watch movies.

[Angel Reese]

Okay.

[Michelle Obama]

Old movies.

[Craig Robinson]

And I watch things to prepare for the podcast.

[Angel Reese]

Okay.

[Craig Robinson]

And then I'm watching basketball, probably because of my job and because of my kids and because I'm watching you, I'm watching a lot of basketball.

[Angel Reese]

Okay.

[Craig Robinson]

Yeah.

[Michelle Obama]

So he's watching nothing fun, but sometimes

[Angel Reese]

you gotta watch some trash TV or something. I just. You're like, oh, okay, that part.

[Michelle Obama]

Are you watching Traitors?

[Angel Reese]

I haven't watched Traders.

[Michelle Obama]

Oh, girl, I don't watch.

[Angel Reese]

Like, I watch TV sometimes, but, like, when something is trending, it is good.

[Michelle Obama]

Traitors is good.

[Angel Reese]

Okay. What is that on?

[Michelle Obama]

Well, it's on Bravo. Is it on Bravo? It's on Peacock. But all these celebrities, a lot of them from reality tv, so Rob from Love island is on it this year.

[Angel Reese]

I'm gonna watch that.

[Michelle Obama]

Put that on your.

[Craig Robinson]

But he's on Love Island.

[Michelle Obama]

You're saying he was on Love Island? Yeah.

[Angel Reese]

Rob from Love Island. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

[Michelle Obama]

Rob.

[Craig Robinson]

Yeah. What's the point of Love Island?

[Angel Reese]

You're gonna find love on an island

[Craig Robinson]

and everybody's in a bikini and everybody's naked. Okay.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah. And also last night.

[Craig Robinson]

That's right up my alley. Right up my. I'm really missing something here. I'm missing something here. Over here.

[Angel Reese]

Last week, I had Janae Craig on my podcast. She was on this season. Not this season, but last season. And she was telling me, and I was like, were you not nervous going on there? Like, you have to kiss other people? All these different people? Like, your parents are watching.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah.

[Angel Reese]

What, you don't have a bikini on? She was like. At first I was like, yeah, like, my mom, they're very religious, so her mom was like, don't do that again. Like, don't do that again. She didn't tell her mom. She hid it from her mom for so long, and she was telling me. She was like, she wouldn't do it again. But she loved the results from it and everything that came from it.

[Craig Robinson]

But wait, her mom found out on tv?

[Angel Reese]

Yes. Her mom did not.

[Craig Robinson]

That's wrong. That is not right.

[Michelle Obama]

Now, I do think that that's. That's a little. You know, I would be thrown if I looked up and Sasha or Malia were on TV in a bikini and I didn't know.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah.

[Craig Robinson]

I'd be like, girls and smooching up with a bunch of people.

[Michelle Obama]

It's more than smooching up.

[Angel Reese]

They're doing it all. It's hot. Nervy. They're having a good time.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah. And they all sleep in the same room. And they get paired up.

[Craig Robinson]

They get coupled up, that is.

[Angel Reese]

And they're, like, young. They're like, everybody's, like, within their 20s and 30s and, like, trying to find love. Like, and it's like you. I always. I always ask all of them, like, are you here to intentionally find someone, or are you trying to win the money? Because at the end of the day, there's 50k on the table.

[Craig Robinson]

So you're not trying to get married like a bachelorette.

[Angel Reese]

You are.

[Michelle Obama]

It's not the end goal. It's not like you're gonna get married,

[Angel Reese]

but this is just. Were you offering to live outside the villa? Like, a lot of them have lived outside. Like, Serena and Leah, they're, like, still with their partner, and they're still living outside the villa. Cause you're like, you need to see what their everyday life looks like outside of it.

[Michelle Obama]

So a lot of these couples get out, and they get out into the real world, and sometimes the relationships last and sometimes they don't.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah, some of them don't.

[Michelle Obama]

But anyway, you.

[Craig Robinson]

Is you trying to get me to watch it? I'm trying to be interested.

[Angel Reese]

It's gonna be funny for you to watch.

[Michelle Obama]

I know. I can't wait. How do you like podcasting?

[Angel Reese]

I like it. I feel like I get to know different people in different professions that I never really think I would talk to. This is actually my first time going on somebody else's podcast.

[Michelle Obama]

Oh, yeah.

[Angel Reese]

Because I like being in the one in control. I'm like, I can ask you this. You can't ask me that. So this is my first time doing it. So I like to, like, now being able to be in a different seat and what it feels like. But I do really enjoy, like, getting to know everybody, and I make my space so people can come on there and be themselves and to feel like a safe space. Like, I don't want them to come on there and feel like this is a trap. We're trying to get drama. We're trying to get clickbaits. Like, I don't want any of that. Like, I want them to just be able to come on there and just have a good time. And everybody that's been on there just has had a good time, and I really love it.

[Craig Robinson]

Who is the oldest person you've had on?

[Angel Reese]

Probably Shaq.

[Craig Robinson]

Oh, yeah.

[Michelle Obama]

Oh, yeah.

[Angel Reese]

Shaq's probably the oldest.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah.

[Craig Robinson]

And he ain't even that old.

[Angel Reese]

Shaq's oldest.

[Craig Robinson]

Yeah. Okay.

[Michelle Obama]

Shaq has been pretty instrumental. I saw the Reebok documentary.

[Angel Reese]

Yes.

[Michelle Obama]

It was good to see him in the sort of the quest to get Reebok back on the map. How's that going? How are you feeling?

[Angel Reese]

Yeah, it's been great. I mean, when I first started talking to him, Shaq went to lsu, and I went to LSU as well. So his daughter was in the recruitment process of trying to come to lsu, and he asked me one day, was like, what will it take for you to come to Reebok? And I was like, I'm not really interested in signing a shoe. Like, this was before I won the championship, so people knew who I was, and I had a good following, but, like, I hadn't done much. I didn't do anything. And I feel like being able to sign to a shoe brand was something that was, like, big.

[Craig Robinson]

Wait, this was when you were still in.

[Angel Reese]

This is when I was in college, and I hadn't even won the championship yet. I won the championship my junior year, but this was, like, September, October of my junior year, so I hadn't won anything yet. But this year.

[Craig Robinson]

So you were more concerned with winning, having a winning pedigree than cash in the check.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah, I wanted to win first. Okay. I wanted to win because I didn't want it to look like I was just based off of my name. And interesting when he was like, what would it take? And I'm like, I don't know. Like, I'm not really looking for it. Like, we'll figure it out when it gets there. So when I finally won the championship, we were still in talks and connections, and he was like, anything you ever need. Like, I'll make sure I Get it for you or it'll help you out. And after I won the championship, all the different shoe brands started reaching out. So I was like, okay, well, I wanna go where I'm prioritized, right? And to be prioritized as a woman, as a black woman, and helping a brand to come back and regenerate where it was, that was something that was really important to me. I mean, everybody wore Shaqs, everybody wore AI so they didn't have a woman that was the face of their brand. And Shaq told me, he was like, you could be the face of Reebok. And I didn't believe him at first. And I was like, I don't know, because I know how women can be percepted, and I just know how it could be for a woman and trying to get into the industry. And I was like. He was like, just trust me.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah.

[Angel Reese]

So I signed to Reebok and we started just working together and building certain things. And I told him, like, I want to incorporate fashion with basketball. And that was the biggest thing for me. And since then, it's just been history. Being able to create the shoe is just. It's just been phenomenal, man.

[Michelle Obama]

How, where did you get your savvy and your maturity? I mean, just, you know, you had a strategy coming into this. I mean, you, you know, yourself, you know, and I also saw the documentary on Nil, right, when you were at LSU and watching you handle all of that, I mean, going to school, playing, starting the pressure, and still basically working a full time brand. Where did you get your sophistication, your strategic thinking?

[Angel Reese]

Yeah, probably from my mom. My mom was an independent single mom that raised me and my brother. And I knew I had to get to college on the scholarship. There was no way she was gonna be able to pay out of pocket for school. So I was like, okay, let me find something that I know that I really love and enjoy to do that can get me to college. So I was highly recruited. Sixth grade, seventh grade, eighth grade. I went to the University of Maryland initially.

[Michelle Obama]

Maryland, Maryland, Baltimore, Baltimore. Baltimore, Baltimore.

[Angel Reese]

Cause I wanted to stay close to home. I wanted to stay close to my family. My grandparents were the ones that took me places during tournaments. And then my mom took my brother places. And we always made sure they made sure it worked for us. So I always wanted to make sure I did it for my mom. And then when I finally transferred to lsu, I had already been posting on Instagram, like, I love fashion. I love having cute stuff stuff. I love putting on My heels. Like, I loved all of that. So I was like, I need to make sure I continue to have a brand outside of basketball. That was just something that was important to me. I didn't know about Nil. Initially, I was like, we should be getting paid. It was new. We should be getting paid. So the first two years, I wasn't getting paid. None of us were getting paid. Right. And when I. When we. The deadline, it was like, July 1st. I was like, I need to find somebody to help me get my brand aligned with things that I want to do. And it was slow in the beginning. I always tell this story. I'm not signed to an agency, but I was working with Janine. That's my agent I work with now. That's Kirsty. She's not here. Oh, Jeanine's not here. But shout out to Jeanine. But I signed to an agency initially that Jeanine was with, and they told me that I wasn't going to make more than $2,000.

[Craig Robinson]

This was at the very beginning of I.

[Angel Reese]

This was the very beginning, Nil. So I told myself, I know I'm going to make more than $2,000. I don't know what y' all talking about, but I know I'm going to make more than $2,000. And me and Jeanine left. We did our own thing. It was just me and her, and

[Craig Robinson]

she left the agency.

[Angel Reese]

She left the agency with me.

[Craig Robinson]

Okay.

[Angel Reese]

We took a bold step, and we're like, we're gonna do this on our own. So we started doing it and started doing it. And then when we won the national championship, that's when we added two more people. But we're a very, very small group. Like, a lot of people are assigned to really big agencies, but we're very small. It's just us. Like, it was all women at one point. And then we have my financial advisor, my lawyer. Those are the guys that handle the big stuff. You let some guys. The guys. The. We have a couple guys in there. Yeah, a lot of stuff, too. Your mom. My mom is very. My mom sees all my accounts. I didn't trust anybody with my money except my mom. And I knew nobody was going to backdoor me outside of my mom. I knew my mom was going to be the one for me. So I kind of had the plan, and I took risk. I was like, I'm going to do this. This is what I want to do. I know I'm going to be able to do fashion. I'm going to be able to be a basketball Player. If I want to start a podcast, I can do it. And I just had big dreams. And luckily I was able to accomplish them at school. Such a crazy fast pace. But I definitely had a plan for sure.

[Craig Robinson]

Yeah. So you do this podcast thing. We treat this like you're at our house. So we like jumping around on all different stuff. Cause I want to go back to when did you fall in love with basketball? Did you play other sports? I want to hear about you growing up.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah. So I did. I ran track.

[Craig Robinson]

I did cheerleading, running, track. Did you run field? What did you do?

[Angel Reese]

I was running.

[Craig Robinson]

Well, what about.

[Angel Reese]

Let me tell you the story. I was running a 401 time. My mom was out there and I was running. I did my first lap and I just stopped in the middle of the track and I fell out. And I was like, I can't do this. She was so embarrassed.

[Craig Robinson]

It was at a meet.

[Angel Reese]

It was at a meet. It was thousands of people that.

[Michelle Obama]

Let me tell you, that's what the 400 makes you feel like. Like you want to stop. Like your body is telling you stop.

[Angel Reese]

I couldn't do it, so I tried cheerleading. And I had a next door neighbor that I used to hang out with, and I used to tell her, like, I hate cheerleading, I hate cheerleading, but I'm just gonna do it. She snitched to my mom one day and told her that I hated cheerleading. My mom took me off the meet one day at the cheer meet. She's like, you're not doing this. If you don't wanna do it, don't do it. So she was a coach, and I used to go around and play basketball. She used to coach a third grade team.

[Craig Robinson]

Wait, your mom was a coach? My mom was a coach.

[Angel Reese]

She coached, like, a third grade team.

[Craig Robinson]

Okay.

[Angel Reese]

And I was like four or five years old, and I used to just go and play basketball around the gym and play while she was practicing.

[Craig Robinson]

Now, was your brother playing at this point?

[Angel Reese]

My brother was not playing yet. He wasn't playing yet.

[Craig Robinson]

Okay.

[Angel Reese]

He wasn't. He was a late bloomer.

[Craig Robinson]

Okay.

[Angel Reese]

So we started playing with each other probably like when we were 8 and 9. And she coached us.

[Craig Robinson]

Okay.

[Angel Reese]

So I was on an all boys team, and it was just me. I was the only girl. And she coached us and she said she would never do that again. Me and him used to fight. We used to go at it like it was crazy. But it really helped me and it really built me. But I really enjoy, like, I would never take that point for granted, like, having my mom, like, coach me. It was fine.

[Craig Robinson]

And so what grade was this?

[Angel Reese]

This was like, oh, fifth grade.

[Craig Robinson]

Okay, sixth grade. By sixth grade and seventh, you started getting recruited.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah, I was getting recruited. I was playing well when I was in third grade, I was playing on a fifth grade team. So by the time I was in fifth grade and sixth grade, I was kind of already advanced. Like, I had already knew what I was doing. I was also short. I was short. And I was a point guard when I was younger. I used to wear goggles. I was a point guard. So that's kind of where I had my, like, ball handling skills from, because I was a guard when I was younger.

[Craig Robinson]

It makes sense.

[Angel Reese]

And then I just. 8th grade is when, like, I just shot up and got tall. And I was just like, ugh, I hated it. I hated being tall. Cause, like, all the guys were like, oh, I'm the tall girl. The giraffe in the classroom, I never understood.

[Craig Robinson]

Yeah, we don't know. Cause we don't catch up until later.

[Angel Reese]

You don't get into. Until too late. Until you're too late. But, like, nobody instilled. Like, my grandma used to tell me, like, you're tall for a reason. But I never understood, like, grandma, you're not at school with me when these kids are, like, being mean to me and bullying me and stuff like that. But now, like, I get it and I really embrace it.

[Craig Robinson]

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[Michelle Obama]

Where's your does your height come from? Who's my.

[Angel Reese]

My whole family. My granddad is 6 5.

[Michelle Obama]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Angel Reese]

Everybody's tall. My mom's 6 1, my dad's 6 9, my brother's 6 9. My brother other brother's 6 9. So everybody was tall. So in high school I was being heavily recruited and then my first two years I played volleyball. I won two championships in volleyball oh,

[Craig Robinson]

you just went in everywhere.

[Angel Reese]

I love volleyball. It was so fun. And I thought it was something that could just continue to help me. I think that kind of helped me with rebounding as well. I'm sure it probably did. My mom was a great rebounder, though. She has a record held at UMBC in Maryland, so.

[Craig Robinson]

But she. Did she say to you, all right, you gotta get 10 rebounds a game?

[Angel Reese]

No. She's never been the type to be like, you need to do this, you need to do that. Ok. She always let me be free. Like, she always let me because she trusted. And she knew that I would work hard and know that I can get to my goals. Because I worked hard. She trusted me. Now, my brother, on the other hand, when he went to college, he was like, what are you doing? She knew that I was gonna always be successful because she trusted me.

[Craig Robinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Michelle Obama]

Did you guys. I do. Were you guys. What was your relationship like with your mom? Was it like. Were you, like, friends? Was she like, I'm not one of your little friends?

[Angel Reese]

Yes, that was that. And so I got to college. I loved her. When we got to college, I didn't have to come home at a certain time, do certain things. And me and my brother are 11 months apart.

[Craig Robinson]

Okay.

[Angel Reese]

So we used to try to be like. Yeah, we used to try to be like, hey, let's do this. Let's not tell mom this. And tell mom we were super close when we were younger. And then when we got older, we just all, like. We're like best friends. All. We text in the group chat and just have a good time. And I think parents understand once you're out of the house and we're adults and we understand what life is about now. Cause you've taught us so many great things, and I think you know that we're not gonna do anything crazy or get in any trouble, because I know you're gonna get on me. That's right.

[Michelle Obama]

It's like, you gotta be more afraid of me than you are friends.

[Angel Reese]

Yes. I'm still afraid of my mom.

[Michelle Obama]

Yes. Yeah. And I say that, too. My girls say the same thing. I was like, I'm. I'm good with that. You know, I think a little fear is good for all the parents out there. It's like, let your kids like you when they're adults, but until then, they should be a little afraid. Just a little afraid.

[Angel Reese]

Yes. Yeah, I'm still there.

[Craig Robinson]

I tell my kids I'm easy to manage.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah.

[Craig Robinson]

Just do what you're supposed to do. I'm easy to manage. Did you guys go to the same high school initially?

[Angel Reese]

No. He went to a public school, and I went to a private school my four years. And then I used to tell him, like, I don't like the situation. And I used to tell my mom, like, I wasn't liking the situation, so he needs to come with me. And, like, I used to always watch over him. I didn't like the situation at the public school because public school sometimes is, like, it's too much going on. I think he need the undivided attention of being at a private school. What is it with small little sisters

[Craig Robinson]

taking care of their older brothers?

[Angel Reese]

No, this is my little brother.

[Craig Robinson]

This is your older brother?

[Angel Reese]

My little brother, yes.

[Craig Robinson]

Okay.

[Angel Reese]

I kind of feel like I knew what was best for him.

[Craig Robinson]

I got you.

[Angel Reese]

And he was successful. He was able to still thrive, but I had to, like, watch him. Like I always say, my mom, like. My mom, like, just love lets me be independent. And she, like, still babies my brother. I'm like, you have to let him live life.

[Michelle Obama]

That's what happened here, too.

[Angel Reese]

See the mama's boys?

[Michelle Obama]

Yes.

[Angel Reese]

Geez, it's rough.

[Craig Robinson]

It's a rough life. It's a rough life.

[Michelle Obama]

I had to take her to the White House before she noticed. She's like, craig.

[Angel Reese]

Craig. Is Craig fine? That's what my mom does, too. I'm like, she's like, is Juju fine? I'm like, I don't know. Call him. He just got. He's playing with the G League in Toronto, and she went down to set his room up. I'm like, what are you doing, Simone? You didn't come set my room up. But I love it because I know that that's what makes him feel comfortable, and that's what makes me feel comfortable

[Craig Robinson]

for him, because, you know, he's good.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah, he's good.

[Michelle Obama]

I'm like, you good?

[Angel Reese]

You need something? I'm like, he's like, all right, so

[Michelle Obama]

how do you feel about girlfriends in his life? All right, let's talk about that for a bit.

[Angel Reese]

I am open to what he likes and loves, but I definitely will let him know, like, this might not be the best situation for you. And I see it at the end. It always folds how I feel.

[Craig Robinson]

You already. You always know.

[Angel Reese]

I always know what I'm talking about. I'm like, ma. I'm like, ma. She's like, just let him live. Like, he has to go through it. I'm like, mom, this is not. It's like, if she do something to my brother, man, I'm not gonna be

[Michelle Obama]

happy it's going down.

[Angel Reese]

Won't play with my brother.

[Michelle Obama]

Let's understand that. Ladies, don't be messing with Angel's little baby.

[Craig Robinson]

So he's not. He hasn't met anybody who's like you.

[Angel Reese]

I don't think he's capable of being with somebody like me.

[Craig Robinson]

Okay.

[Michelle Obama]

Okay.

[Craig Robinson]

To expound.

[Angel Reese]

I don't think he's able to be with the woman that has her own. I think a lot of men are not able to have

[Michelle Obama]

that.

[Craig Robinson]

Requires present company excluded.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah. You okay?

[Angel Reese]

I think it's hard. I think it takes a strong man to be able to be open to a woman that has her own, that works on her own, that does her own things and doesn't necessarily need you.

[Michelle Obama]

And that is not catering to, you know, it's like when you have your own thing, you don't have time to make sure you're this. Make sure. Cause you're, you know, you're. You know, you've got your own pathway.

[Angel Reese]

Yes.

[Craig Robinson]

Yeah.

[Michelle Obama]

And it is. It is a difficult thing. I mean, I feel very blessed that, you know, my husband in his. Before all of this, he had to be completely secure with all that was me. How I felt, how I moved, how I. You know, and it's. It's a rare thing.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah. My mom. That's how my mom was like. My mom was very, like. She taught me how to cut grass if I needed to. If I need to change, like, attire. Like, she made me so independent. Like, if I'm coming in a relationship, sir, I don't need you. You're just a plus to me. And I kind of. When I tell my brother, I'm like, you want a woman that is also ambitious because you don't want to deal with. You don't want to be with somebody that's not driven, that is not gonna push you to be better. Cause when you're slacking, you need somebody to tap you on the butt. Like, hey, you gotta get up and come on.

[Michelle Obama]

I say a relationship is like a basketball team. It's like everybody's gotta be able to shoot, dribble, score, and defend everybody. It's like, you wouldn't pick your team and be like, I only dribble. And it's like, you know. Cause you never know what life is gonna have before you. You know, it's like you want a partner that is bringing what you're bringing to the table. Because life happens. Somebody could get somebody. Could life be lifein'?

[Angel Reese]

Life be lifein' can we just.

[Craig Robinson]

Can we just pause for a moment? And I wanna let the producers mark this time that my sister used a basketball analogy for the first time in a whole year. Not with me, but I do.

[Michelle Obama]

When I'm talking to men, trying to get them to understand, it's like you want a partner that can bring it all.

[Angel Reese]

Yes.

[Michelle Obama]

And I tell my daughters, you have to be able to do everything. I don't want you to ever count on somebody. I've seen too many friends who, you know, they served the role, they did what they were supposed to do, and then somebody walked out on them or somebody died.

[Craig Robinson]

Unfortunately, it takes us a while.

[Angel Reese]

How long?

[Craig Robinson]

When we get older.

[Angel Reese]

How long?

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah. Really? How long?

[Craig Robinson]

I would say for me, I was probably in my early 30s when I was, like, confident.

[Angel Reese]

Okay.

[Michelle Obama]

Well, I think that it's not the

[Craig Robinson]

same for everybody, though. Like, there's some guys who probably have that at 25, and I've met some guys who've had it early. But I would think around 30 is the right age, especially for somebody as polished as you are. Yeah, you might. Yeah. Sorry I cut you off.

[Michelle Obama]

No, no, no, no. Cause I want to hear your opinion as the man especially.

[Angel Reese]

I never understood, though. Is it a. I wanna know. Do you feel like it's a threat when you were younger, in your earlier days, do you feel like.

[Craig Robinson]

No. Cause I grew up in a household of strong women. I didn't see it as a threat. It was more. I wasn't ready to be as responsible as you or as my sister was at an earlier age. I was still, you know, I was trying to play basketball. I'm trying to be out there and see what this all brings. And then when I stopped playing, I was trying to make a living and I was really focused on that.

[Angel Reese]

I think it's like the lifestyle too. Like, you get so caught up in the lifestyle, especially the guys. You get caught, you see, you have so much access to everything.

[Michelle Obama]

Yes.

[Angel Reese]

And you don't understand what it even looks like to be in a real relationship or be with someone that is driven and has their own, like, oh, she. I woke up today because I saw you Woke up at 5. And now I'm about to get up and get up at 5:30 because I'm motivated to keep going and get up and do things. And I think that is important, especially at 23. I've seen so many much in the dating world, and I think being able to be around people and be around someone that really understands and is very ambitious and talks long Term things. Because I like to be educated too, because I don't know everything.

[Michelle Obama]

That's right.

[Angel Reese]

Tell me about the investments and how. How to do certain things and assets. Because I wasn't taught that in school. They don't teach us that in school.

[Michelle Obama]

No, they don't teach that anywhere.

[Angel Reese]

Oh, yeah, anywhere. But I think that is really important. And I. And I think I've had an eye opener to that. And not just over the years, just. Just being in the life, in the space that I've been now, like, realizing, like, it's bigger than the lifestyle. Like, end of the day, we. We have to turn the social media off. Everything that we see, and we have to sit and lay down in bed together and. And this is a reality.

[Michelle Obama]

How do you. How are you managing that? I mean, your, Your brain. You are. First of all, it's your generation, it's your profession. It's the. How do you. How do you make the separation?

[Angel Reese]

Yeah.

[Michelle Obama]

How do you keep yourself sane and still, you know, get the job done?

[Angel Reese]

I think I try to have some type of normalization of knowing where I've come from. I'll never forget that. I don't want to ever feel like I'm bigger than anything. So I always sit back and just think, like, I'm so grateful. I'm so thankful. I love being able just to come home and turn my phone off and just relax and just doing the things that I enjoy. Laying in bed and just laughing and just having a good time with the people that I love and enjoy. So I think over the years, it's been hard for me to realize that. But I think the maturity of just understanding, like, social media isn't real. The reality.

[Michelle Obama]

Say that again.

[Angel Reese]

Social media is not real.

[Michelle Obama]

Okay, everybody.

[Angel Reese]

I think we get so caught up in that Years, probably I would comment back at things and let things continue to bother me, but now it's just

[Michelle Obama]

like, well, you know, girl, it takes some people until now, my age, 62, to realize that it's just beautiful that, you know. And look, I adore you. It's fun to watch you, but I also want to make sure you're protecting your soul through all of this. And a lot of young people don't even know that they need to protect themselves. So I'm glad to hear that you understand this fully.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah, I think now over the last two years, I've been able to understand it. Do I think what has happened to me over the years is normal? No, not at all. And it's acceptable? No. And not at all but understanding this is my new reality of what life is about and being able to just be grateful and graceful of everything that I'm able to enjoy, of just being able to come home and let my hair down and just walk around the house, like, just being able to enjoy the little things. And now that's just the things I enjoy. I can't go to the grocery store and do the same things I used to be able to do. Go to the concert and just have a good time or just go to the hair salon. Now I just enjoy the little things at home when I can.

[Craig Robinson]

I have to back up. Cause you said you were talking about being bullied because you were tall. Yeah, I think. And correct me if I'm wrong, all the stuff that you've had to go through has prepared you for what you're handling now. And I have to say so. I started following you when you were at lsu, so I didn't know you when you were at Maryland. So when you started being on TV and I was like, oh, look at this beautiful woman getting all these rebounds and being able to really play, I could tell you could handle the ball. I could tell you can see the game by the way you pass. You're seeing now sports is like reality tv. The media wants to manufacture some stuff. And I just want you to know that I noticed how you've handled yourself, and it has been. And absolutely. With aplomb. You can't really teach that. You can talk to people about it, but you can't teach what you went through.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah. I don't think anybody will ever, ever understand.

[Craig Robinson]

And so for those young people, not just women coming up behind you, how would you talk to them about what you went through?

[Angel Reese]

I think it was a really pivotal point in my life. I think it was a character builder for me to be able to go through what I was going through, especially at a time where I won. But am I losing at the same time where I'm feeling like I'm getting pulled by the wins, but I'm also getting pulled by the losses? And how do I find a medium where I'm able to just cope with both.

[Craig Robinson]

Yeah.

[Angel Reese]

And figuring that out. And like, I've had to eliminate people out of my life, eliminate people out of my circle. Being able to find people that genuinely. Just outside of Bayou Barbie, Chi Town Barbie, outside of everything, like Angel. Who's Angel? And just being able to enjoy great company. I think that's really important for me. And just continuing to. Just to be confident. I think everybody always Asks me like, are you all right? Yeah, I'm as all right as I can be. And everything is not great, but I try to wake up every day and just be grateful for every moment. Every moment hasn't been great, but I wouldn't change this life for anything because I have had some really good moments, and I don't want bad moments to outshine the good moments because I know I've been able to bless my family, bless the community. Being able to start a foundation. I never would have thought I was able to start a foundation at this age. Girl. I never would have thought that being able to just continue to thrive in basketball, have a sneaker, and just being able to do so many great things. I try not to let the negative outshine the positive, but like I said, I keep my circle very small. I love who I love on. I am big on loyalty. I love the people around me. I appreciate you guys for making this a safe space for me, because, like you said, the media has not always been great for me.

[Craig Robinson]

No, no.

[Angel Reese]

I'll take a fine. I'll catch a fine. Especially in the wnb, I'll take a fine before I have to go to media and feel like my back is against the wall. So I really appreciate you guys for allowing me to come on here and this feel like a safe space. And one of the safest spaces that it's been in a very.

[Michelle Obama]

Well, we've had our share. You know, I mean, I. You know, it's. You know, I completely understand, you know, the challenges that you face and. But doing it at 23, I mean, you know, by the time we got in the White House, we were in our 40s. So it's like a big difference to have to deal with that kind of spotlight.

[Craig Robinson]

So tell me this. The negative stuff that you've been through, I don't want to stay on the negative, but the negative stuff you've been through, has it changed your passion or love for the game? All right, good.

[Angel Reese]

I don't think anybody can dictate the love and joy or take that away from me.

[Craig Robinson]

Good.

[Angel Reese]

I think I've been through so much at a pivotal time. Like I said, when I was winning so much, now it's like, everything is a win to me. The small things are a win to me. So I don't even let the negativity get to me. Like, it doesn't bother me. You see it, I see it. We all see it. And it's like I've grown to have a skin where you can't Break me.

[Craig Robinson]

Yeah. Good, good.

[Angel Reese]

You just can't break me. I feel like I've learned over the years also when I've spoken out on those things, of things that I have gone through, it's backfired or anything, anything you say, I feel like you damn if you do, damn if you don't. You say something and it's a problem. You don't say something, it's still a problem.

[Craig Robinson]

And you, that the people you have surrounded yourself with, your family, your team, those are the only people you need to care about. And that's what our mom used to tell us. Just worry about who's at this kitchen table right here. Don't worry about these other folks.

[Michelle Obama]

It's like, come here, come home to be loved.

[Craig Robinson]

You need love. Come to your team, go to your team or come home and.

[Michelle Obama]

And that's true for everybody, quite frankly.

[Craig Robinson]

Everybody should be that way. But it's hard, especially your generation when everything is judged. And hearing you talk about social media like a 60 year old makes me happy because I know you're not sitting there swiping and going down a rabbit hole of like, oh man, I might just give up playing cause the same word that I, I can be a fashion designer, I can be a shoe salesperson. You can do whatever you want.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah. No, it just, yeah, it just makes me go harder. I'm so, yeah. I have so many goals. It's like if I stop now, I proved you right and I proved you right, like, and I have nothing to prove to anybody but myself. And I just know, like, I want to continue to do the things that I want to do. Nobody can. I'm not going to let the outside control my own narrative of what I want to be and what I want to do.

[Craig Robinson]

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[Angel Reese]

Now.

[Craig Robinson]

Okay. What part of your game are you working on this summer?

[Angel Reese]

Everything.

[Craig Robinson]

Ooh, okay, that was quick.

[Angel Reese]

See?

[Michelle Obama]

And that. But then you still sounded like a baby right then.

[Craig Robinson]

Yeah.

[Angel Reese]

This has been a good off season for me, though. This is my first time I was able to have a real off season and have what's been the difference. So when I came from college, you

[Craig Robinson]

go right to the league.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah. The way WNBA works, you go right to the league. I was drafted on April 15. I was in charity camp by April 29.

[Craig Robinson]

And right after the college season.

[Angel Reese]

Right after the college season.

[Craig Robinson]

So there's no break.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah, there's no break. So I did that my rookie year and then last year, and then this is the first off season, so I was able to enjoy my off season and do some of my sneaker stuff and just continue to build my game. And then now I trained for the USA team because that's a big goal for me to play on the 20, 28 LA team. So I trained and did a lot of stuff with that in December, and they just announced that I made the World cup team. So I'm looking forward to that. And then I'm gonna go and play unrivaled for the last three games and hopefully we get to the finals and run it back.

[Michelle Obama]

So how is Chicago?

[Angel Reese]

The city is beautiful, which is why

[Craig Robinson]

we're not there yet.

[Angel Reese]

Oh, it's the best. The food, the vibes.

[Michelle Obama]

Like, the city. It's like a small town, big city. You know, people are really nice. Nice, lovely. It's like that Midwestern, you know, everybody's sweet. It's sort of. I always say it's because it's Southern. You know, it's like black folks migrated from the South. Everybody went down south for the. It's like it's got that Southern welcoming vibe. I was hoping you were enjoying yourself.

[Angel Reese]

I love the culture there. Like, they show up, they sell out our games. Like, they love us. And going to a city where the legacy of Chicago and sports speaks for itself, like, it was an honor to be able to be in this city,

[Craig Robinson]

and we still love it, even though we don't live there, but we've got

[Michelle Obama]

the Presidential center opening up in June, so. And we still have our home there. We live in Hyde Park. Yeah. So we are going to be doing a lot of work, and hopefully we can do some things together.

[Angel Reese]

Yes, yes, yes, definitely.

[Michelle Obama]

With your foundation. You know, I'll be working with girls and young leaders, and it would be great to figure out some ways we can do some things together for the city.

[Craig Robinson]

Talk about your foundation. I want the folks out here to hear about it.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah, yeah. So when I started my foundation. Well, let's start back when I was in high school, I went to a school called St. Francis Academy in Baltimore. If I'm here, the jail is right there. In Baltimore City, there were about 250 students in the school. Probably about 50 of us were women. And I always told myself, like, I want to be able to give a scholarship back to the school however I can. If it's just to a woman, to a player on the team, somebody. I was like, I want to do that. So when I. When everything happened with the national championship, I was like, this money can't just be spent. I can't be just spending. I Gotta give back to the community and give back to where I know I was from and where I was founded. So St. Francis was the first thing I was able to do. I was able to give a scholarship away first. Then I did my back to school event there and giving backpacks and everything away for the entire community. And then I was like, nobody ever taught me what it's like to have a lump sum of money because I'm a first generation of having this much money and I didn't know what to do with it initially. And I'm learning on the go and learning on the fly. But. But how about as I'm learning, I'm teaching some young girls of how to do it as well and how to be confident within themselves, to have a big sister as myself and being able to feel and touch them and they can see me. Because when you see it, you can believe it and you can be it.

[Craig Robinson]

Yeah, wonderful.

[Michelle Obama]

All right, let me switch. And I don't want to make this personal, but as a young person out here, because I got two young daughters, it's like, what do you make of the dating scene? You know, how you know and I know it's hard for you. It's like, cause you're beautiful and you're smart and you know, your own thing. I'm always like, what does it feel like being out here these days? And that's not about the who or no, it's just like, what's your take on this situation?

[Angel Reese]

I think, like I said, finding someone that doesn't care about all the extra stuff. I don't want you to fantasize over me because of what you see on social media. Like, you know, I'm that girl. But at the end of the day, like, when we go home, like, you're still a genuinely good person. And I have my own, so I don't need to be with someone for their own. So I think it was very intentional for me. One, I date privately. That's what I learned over the years. Not putting your business out there. Sharing what you want people to know and keeping things private of what you want to keep private. But I haven't had, like, a hard life in the dating scene. I think.

[Craig Robinson]

Of course not.

[Angel Reese]

I'm having a soft life, but of course not. I'm very big on, like. Like I said, like, you treat me right.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah, yeah.

[Angel Reese]

But if you don't, like, next. Yeah, you gotta go.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah, yeah, I like that.

[Angel Reese]

Do you feel like it's hard for your daughters?

[Michelle Obama]

I mean, you know, they aren't Lonely.

[Angel Reese]

Right.

[Michelle Obama]

But they're attractive women. But, you know, I do think just in the whole situation of young people, because it's not just my kids, but, you know, the young women who are like my daughters. And, you know, just like we talked about, for women, it's, you know, the pickings are slim or they seem slim because it just feels like no one wants to commit.

[Angel Reese]

I think it's hard. I think you always want to have the. You walk in the grocery store and you need to reach up and find something, and the man just walks in and grabs it for you.

[Michelle Obama]

Everybody's got this romantic story.

[Angel Reese]

It doesn't happen. So I think just finding the reality of what genuine love is like. And I am young and still figuring things out. And I think you find someone that. That is helping you learn this life thing. At the same time, like I said, I'm big on loyalty. You ride with me, I'm a ride with you through any and all. So as long as we doing that and rocking, then we're good to go.

[Michelle Obama]

We're gonna be okay.

[Angel Reese]

We're gonna be okay.

[Michelle Obama]

Just fine.

[Angel Reese]

Just fine.

[Craig Robinson]

What are the. I mean, you're into everything, and I was looking through the research that we had. So you're trying to get into cooking more now?

[Angel Reese]

I do. I wanna cook.

[Michelle Obama]

Okay, you want to.

[Angel Reese]

I wanna go to culinary school.

[Michelle Obama]

Okay.

[Craig Robinson]

Like, serious cooking.

[Michelle Obama]

You want to be able to chop and dicey.

[Angel Reese]

We have a chef. But, like, I want to be able to. I mean, I can do a little one, too, but, like, I want to be able to, like, dress the plate up and, like, have it looking like the restaurants.

[Michelle Obama]

You want to have sauces?

[Angel Reese]

Yeah, like, the sauces. The little drips of the sauce. And, like, that's what I want. I feel like I can't. Like I said, basketball's going to be done one day.

[Craig Robinson]

I'm going to have kids and, like,

[Angel Reese]

yeah, the chef can do the thing one of these days, but sometimes I got to put it together too. Right?

[Michelle Obama]

Right.

[Angel Reese]

It's not like you can just see

[Craig Robinson]

your kids coming home. Hey, Mommy. Thanks for the little design on my plate.

[Angel Reese]

I also. I don't know if you guys know who Nora Smith is. Okay. She's like. She's.

[Craig Robinson]

No.

[Angel Reese]

She makes and cooks everything from scratch. I'm sure people. Somebody back there knows what she's like.

[Michelle Obama]

Milk and the cow and. Oh. Oh, you. I think I've.

[Angel Reese]

Yes, your daughters know.

[Michelle Obama]

Okay.

[Angel Reese]

So I want to, like. I. I mean, not that in depth, but.

[Michelle Obama]

But she makes things a little extra

[Craig Robinson]

so you gonna be making your own baby food like they make.

[Michelle Obama]

Did she make Cheerios or something like that?

[Angel Reese]

Everything. There's nothing she hasn't made. So, like, that, like, interests me. I like stuff like that. Yeah. So I like watching cooking videos.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah. You're talking to somebody who gave up cooking a while ago.

[Angel Reese]

What happened?

[Michelle Obama]

The White House.

[Craig Robinson]

Hey, listen, now we're getting to the point where you and I got more in common. And everybody else in there, I was

[Angel Reese]

like, why you wanna do that?

[Michelle Obama]

No, I'm just kidding.

[Craig Robinson]

No cooking. No commercial flights.

[Angel Reese]

No. You know, do you enjoy the life?

[Craig Robinson]

My life. I am having a blast. This has been so, you know, so she's 62. I'm gonna be 64 on my next birthday.

[Angel Reese]

Yes.

[Craig Robinson]

And being able to. To learn something completely new at this age. This whole podcasting thing has been a godsend for me. Like, it is really fun getting to talk. I was telling my wife, I was like, I'm really having fun. I can't put my finger on it. And she said, you just like talking to people.

[Angel Reese]

And that's what I like. It's fun. Yeah.

[Craig Robinson]

And being able to do it with her. Cause we grew up kind of like you and your brother. We were close, and then when I started coaching, I was moving all around, and then they moved to the White House so we'd only see each other twice a year. Now we see each other once a month.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah.

[Craig Robinson]

And it's so much fun.

[Angel Reese]

I love that.

[Craig Robinson]

I'm really enjoying this part of life. And I'm working with the coaches association for college. So I'm all involved in the nil stuff and the transfer portal and trying to be in on those discussions. And then I've got. We still have two younger sons who are high school and eighth grade, so I'm coaching and their team. So it's. I'm at a good spot.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah.

[Michelle Obama]

Well, it's a good.

[Craig Robinson]

It might be a little too busy, but it's good.

[Angel Reese]

Is there anything you guys miss about, like, the normalcy of, like, this one thing? I miss, like, going to the mall.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah.

[Angel Reese]

Or just, like, casually just walking in and nobody knowing you are.

[Michelle Obama]

The first little things. Like, I went to Mallorca visiting a friend. The girls came with me.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah.

[Michelle Obama]

We're at this villa and we're staying there because we got all. We got all this security. When we go abroad, it's just like the international. They require all this stuff. So, you know, nobody would know I'm anywhere except for the local police, you know? So I was like, I Just want to go into town. I just want to walk into this little beautiful town. And so we found a way to kind of ditch the big motorcade. And we parked in my security, and we got out, because we're learning how to do things stealthily. Because it's usually the security that tells people somebody's here.

[Angel Reese]

Right.

[Michelle Obama]

So we snuck in, me and the girls, a couple of friends of ours, we walked to this beautiful little boutique. We went in it, and we shopped for two hours. We got a dressing room. And I realized I had never been able to take my girls shopping like that. Like, those are the little things. Like, we had so much fun. And I was like, get what you want. Try that on. Oh, that looks cute. We just hadn't had or the experience the other summer. Cause I started driving in Martha's Vineyard. Cause it's small and I'm followed by people, but I'm in my own car, driving myself. And I was in the car with Malia, and she's in the passenger seat, and it's a little convertible. We had the top down, and she's playing music and we're singing.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah.

[Michelle Obama]

That was the first time I had that experience with my daughter where I was driving and she was in the car, and it was just us. Those are the things that, you know, you miss anonymity.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah, my mom always says that. She's like, I miss when we can just go to a restaurant.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah, yeah.

[Angel Reese]

And just go eat. And now everybody's walking up to the table. Or, like, just wanting a picture. And you want to give everybody a picture and enjoy everybody, but you also want to enjoy your own time.

[Michelle Obama]

And this is not a complaint. You feel like you want to be

[Angel Reese]

like, oh, look at you. You got a lot of complaints.

[Craig Robinson]

No crying on the yacht.

[Angel Reese]

No crying on the yacht.

[Michelle Obama]

But, you know, you feel like you have to falsify all of those statements, for sure. But there is a loneliness that comes with the isolation, and you're going through it young, you know? I mean, so it's like, it's important to acknowledge that that's not normal, you know?

[Angel Reese]

Yeah, it's not.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah, it's not. And it is okay to feel away about it. Right. Because I don't think there are very few people who understand what it feels like to never, ever be able to blend in. Like, first of all, we're tall.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah.

[Michelle Obama]

All right. So before this, we can't walk in any place without anybody going, well, who's that? Right?

[Angel Reese]

It's always gonna be like that.

[Michelle Obama]

It's Always gonna be like that. But, you know, I would imagine, you know, I can imagine. What's that like being 23?

[Craig Robinson]

It's tougher for you being 23. And I. I'm still in the streets like a normal person

[Angel Reese]

in the streets.

[Craig Robinson]

I'm going to the mall.

[Angel Reese]

Okay.

[Craig Robinson]

Going out to dinner.

[Michelle Obama]

You're not in the street.

[Angel Reese]

Ain't in the street.

[Craig Robinson]

Just like I was when I was in Chicago. I'm like in the Wisconsin streets.

[Angel Reese]

Okay, okay. In the suburbs.

[Craig Robinson]

In the suburbs of Wisconsin. But because I have young children, we're trying to give them a normal experience. So I have to. To endure all of the. And now with a podcast and walking around with this face looking just like her, they're like, aren't you Michelle's brother? And it's like, yeah. And I say yes and keep going.

[Angel Reese]

Once one starts, it's everybody.

[Craig Robinson]

And so you learn how to navigate it. But it is. It's an interesting way to exist. Right. And it's been this way since really since I've been. And coaching. You know, when you start coaching at the Division 1 level, everybody knows you, but when you have children, you're gonna go back to trying to give them a normal life and maybe it dies down, but, you know, you'll be the host of a hit podcast, you'll probably have your own reality TV series, maybe

[Angel Reese]

a cooking show that you could be a part of.

[Craig Robinson]

Cooking show.

[Michelle Obama]

I heard you're gonna be on Hunting Wives.

[Angel Reese]

I am, yes.

[Michelle Obama]

I love that show.

[Angel Reese]

Hunting wise, it's. You think we can get.

[Michelle Obama]

We?

[Craig Robinson]

I told him, if you're on it, I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna watch it.

[Angel Reese]

All right. Let's give him a little warning, though.

[Michelle Obama]

I can't.

[Craig Robinson]

Am I gonna hate it?

[Michelle Obama]

Of one?

[Angel Reese]

No, no, no, not a hate it. Just. You're gonna be surprised.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah.

[Michelle Obama]

So can you talk about what role?

[Angel Reese]

What? Yeah, I'm a trainer.

[Michelle Obama]

You're a trainer?

[Angel Reese]

I'm a trainer.

[Michelle Obama]

So which trainer? Which.

[Angel Reese]

You're going to bail.

[Michelle Obama]

Okay.

[Craig Robinson]

See, I have no idea what you all talking about.

[Michelle Obama]

That's okay.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah, that's okay.

[Craig Robinson]

So I'm gonna watch the first season.

[Angel Reese]

Yes.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah, you should.

[Angel Reese]

You should just catch up once you watched the first episode. You're hooked.

[Michelle Obama]

How was the experience? It. Was this your first, like, playing a role?

[Angel Reese]

So I did. I worked with Idris Elba last two years ago.

[Michelle Obama]

Whoa. Tell us more.

[Craig Robinson]

Excuse us.

[Michelle Obama]

Idris Elba, Come on, Imo. He's the other one.

[Angel Reese]

We love him.

[Michelle Obama]

He's the other one.

[Angel Reese]

Yes. I worked with him, and we can

[Michelle Obama]

do it without Craig.

[Craig Robinson]

Oh, that's wrong. Well, I like him.

[Michelle Obama]

I don't care.

[Angel Reese]

It's Idris.

[Michelle Obama]

It's Idris. So you.

[Angel Reese]

So I worked with him on House of Dynamite. It was a movie that came out on Netflix probably in October. December.

[Michelle Obama]

October.

[Angel Reese]

And it was about his presidency and he was actually in Chicago, and you guys have to watch it. I was in the end of it. I was a basketball player on the court, and I was myself.

[Craig Robinson]

Oh, okay, okay.

[Angel Reese]

But it was really good. He's the best. Like, when I met him, I was like, I love him. And we've been connected since then. But. Yeah, that was.

[Michelle Obama]

Tell him to come on imo. I know Michelle wants him on imo.

[Angel Reese]

Did you? Idris.

[Michelle Obama]

Idris.

[Angel Reese]

He's usually in London, so.

[Michelle Obama]

Okay, he'll come.

[Angel Reese]

Okay.

[Michelle Obama]

We can tape in London.

[Angel Reese]

We'll take it to London. Let's take IMO to London.

[Craig Robinson]

Oh, yeah.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah.

[Michelle Obama]

But was it fun, like, being another character?

[Angel Reese]

It was fun.

[Michelle Obama]

Did you have acting training or did you just use in your own life?

[Craig Robinson]

I believed it.

[Angel Reese]

I believed was fun, though. Like, it was really fun. And I was on set and doing the normal things and just seeing, like, the set life. That's a long day.

[Michelle Obama]

It's such a long day. And you for one scene and then all the angles, and now you have to do it again and again. It's, like, crazy. Yeah.

[Angel Reese]

And it was really cool, though. Like, I really, really enjoyed it and I definitely would do it again.

[Michelle Obama]

I want to talk about fashion a little bit.

[Craig Robinson]

Go ahead.

[Michelle Obama]

It's like, first of all, what's that? That's.

[Angel Reese]

We are in Versace today.

[Michelle Obama]

No, Versace. Versace.

[Angel Reese]

Versace, Versace, Versace, Versace. I love fashion.

[Michelle Obama]

Yes, me too.

[Angel Reese]

Yes. I love fashion. What are you wearing today?

[Michelle Obama]

This is Loewe.

[Angel Reese]

I love.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah, it's good. And it's long. It's good.

[Angel Reese]

It's long.

[Michelle Obama]

Well, I, you know, tall girls, first of all, they'll. They'll make it longer. Yeah, right.

[Angel Reese]

I like that.

[Michelle Obama]

And then we still may have to alter here or there, pull out a sleeve. But I think this was okay. This is. I think they. I think they. They made it for me.

[Craig Robinson]

If anybody cares, I'm wearing American Tall.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah, that's all.

[Angel Reese]

American Tall's always good.

[Michelle Obama]

It's American Tall, you know, we want to get him another. And also, American Tall needs to be sponsor, so. American Tall. I think we shout you out all the time. This guy.

[Craig Robinson]

I don't always wear it. I have other Sponsorships.

[Michelle Obama]

We're trying to get a sponsorship. Okay.

[Craig Robinson]

Yeah, we are.

[Michelle Obama]

So, I mean, pay attention.

[Craig Robinson]

I wear it most of the time.

[Michelle Obama]

Pay attention. Have you done any Fashion Week stuff? Any. Did you. Have you ever done. Met Gala stuff?

[Angel Reese]

Done? I've been twice.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah, you've been twice. That's right.

[Angel Reese]

I've been twice. It's a crazy day.

[Michelle Obama]

It seems like it. That seems a lot. Like. I don't know. That seems a bit much.

[Angel Reese]

And usually I fly in and fly out the same day because I have a game the next day or practice the next day. So usually I practice in the morning, and then I'll fly out that same day, like 11 o', clock, and I'll get there at like, 1, 2 o', clock. And then it's go time. And it's like, go. Like, they're stitching on me. Hair and makeup. I've done hair and makeup on a plane before my first year, and then last year I went with Thom Brown and.

[Michelle Obama]

Love Tom Brown.

[Angel Reese]

Love Tom Brown. So good. And it was just amazing. So I'm looking forward to it again this year.

[Michelle Obama]

Are you doing any of your own? Are you thinking about clothing?

[Angel Reese]

Yeah, I want to start a shoe line, extended heel line for larger feet, larger sizes. So I'm looking forward to that and doing a little bit more stuff with makeup because I do a lot of blush and setting spray during the games and stuff.

[Michelle Obama]

Yes. Your face is beast.

[Angel Reese]

Thank you.

[Michelle Obama]

You have a beat face for a game.

[Angel Reese]

Not like. But I'll do, like, a little concealer and a little blush and keep it going.

[Craig Robinson]

What's beat for the. For the male listener?

[Angel Reese]

That's like the guys. Okay, so, like, football, like, terminology is when you guys wear the little.

[Craig Robinson]

Oh, eye black.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah, I guess.

[Michelle Obama]

No, but a beat. Getting a beat on your face means that your face is so done.

[Angel Reese]

Your face is, like, done.

[Michelle Obama]

Your face is clean. Like, they, like, the makeup artist beat your face, girl beats it to God.

[Angel Reese]

You're beat. You're God.

[Michelle Obama]

So that's why having a good beat means your face is done.

[Craig Robinson]

And adjective.

[Michelle Obama]

It's made up.

[Craig Robinson]

Got it. Okay.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah, it's an adjective. Yeah. You know, I thought it was a noun. Yes, but you do a little concealer.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah, I do a little concealer and a little blushing. Keep it pushing.

[Michelle Obama]

How do you keep. Keep it on setting spray. Okay. All right. So.

[Angel Reese]

But I'm gonna come out something soon.

[Michelle Obama]

Like, I'd use your setting spray.

[Angel Reese]

Okay.

[Michelle Obama]

Because it's like. Because if you can keep a face through a game, that's like you should definitely. Everybody should want your setting spray.

[Craig Robinson]

You don't have makeup on in the game, do you?

[Angel Reese]

Yeah, I wear a little bit.

[Michelle Obama]

Where were you?

[Angel Reese]

I missed that. I didn't think you meant I wear a little something.

[Michelle Obama]

He was trying to understand what a beat is.

[Angel Reese]

Just a little 1, 2. It just became a thing. You know, Lissa Leslie used to do that.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah.

[Angel Reese]

Tina Thompson used to have the red lip.

[Michelle Obama]

And this is why women, we are so amazing, because in addition to being able to dunk and rebound, we got we looking cute on top of it. When have you. You probably don't even put lotion on.

[Angel Reese]

I put before a game.

[Craig Robinson]

Well, no, because I'd be sweating and it was just sweating off.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah, yeah. Well, not us women. We want to figure it out, get it looking good all the time.

[Angel Reese]

It's televised all the time.

[Michelle Obama]

Exactly.

[Angel Reese]

We catch attention. You said no queen, beautiful balloon.

[Michelle Obama]

And you gotta watch out about toweling off. I mean, how do you manage the towel off?

[Angel Reese]

It doesn't.

[Michelle Obama]

You just Pat, Pat, Pat.

[Angel Reese]

I know.

[Michelle Obama]

I'm gonna watch you in the game for to see. Just.

[Angel Reese]

It doesn't ever slide down, though.

[Michelle Obama]

Usually you do a Beyonce Pat.

[Angel Reese]

Yeah.

[Michelle Obama]

She can be totally wet and it's like, how'd you keep your face on? Yeah, yeah.

[Angel Reese]

Keep a little lip gloss on the bench. Me and the girls. Yeah, yeah, all the girls do it. We all keep our little lip gloss on the bench. It's a little thing.

[Michelle Obama]

Would somebody tell you when you get a little time off?

[Craig Robinson]

I'm busy watching the game.

[Angel Reese]

Girl, your lip touch up. We gotta get that together.

[Craig Robinson]

But we'll get to our listener question.

[Michelle Obama]

I have two questions. My first one is, how do you stay true to your purpose when the public expects so much from you? My follow up question is, what would you say to young people like me trying to stay strong in a world that keeps testing us?

[Angel Reese]

I would just say don't compare yourself to others. I think social media has us thinking that we have to rush and to do these things at a successful pace. And I feel like nobody's timing is like God's timing. I think you go at your own speed, you win at your own speed. And like I said, social media has had us in this chokehold that you have to succeed at a certain time, or if you don't, then you'll fail. And just don't. Don't compare yourself to others. I think you move at your own

[Craig Robinson]

speed, run your own race.

[Michelle Obama]

Run your own race, and life doesn't work that way. That's not True. That's not how life works. If you're lucky, life is long. I think the most important thing to do in the thick of it is just being a good person that lasts through everybody. It's like, think about how you show up in the world, how you treat other people. What kind of friend are you? Does your word mean anything? Do you have empathy for other people? Something that sadly feels like it's lacking today? Can you put yourself in somebody else's shoes and have a level of compassion for them? Because we got a lot of successful people out there, people who are billionaires in the world, who are showing a lack of an ability to show compassion towards people who aren't like them or who don't have what they have. And that. That is worse to me than anything. And I want our young people to start focusing on the inside. Right. Because that's all you have at the end of the day is how you show up in the world. Well, angel, gosh, you are an angel. It is true. It's true. What are you looking forward to next?

[Angel Reese]

Well, now I'm training for USA and we're going.

[Michelle Obama]

I think you're gonna make the team.

[Angel Reese]

Well, no, I made the team already,

[Michelle Obama]

but I think it's gonna be fine, right?

[Angel Reese]

Yeah, it's gonna be fine.

[Michelle Obama]

It's gonna be fine.

[Angel Reese]

I'm going to Puerto Rico and playing soon. So first unrivaled, we win a championship and then go to Puerto Rico and win some more. Just enjoy life, be happy.

[Michelle Obama]

Yeah.

[Angel Reese]

I always say, like, now my new thing is being tired of the things that I prayed for. And I'm just grateful to be tired from the things that I prayed for. And I maximize my 24 hours and I manifest everything and just continuing just to have fun and enjoy great people. And I'm really thankful for you guys for allowing me on here.

[Craig Robinson]

Oh, are you kidding?

[Angel Reese]

It's amazing.

[Michelle Obama]

It's a real treat. You are, as a special, special person.

[Angel Reese]

Thank you.

[Michelle Obama]

You know, and I'm saying that to the world. Don't mess with this girl. Don't mess with this spirit.

[Angel Reese]

That's right.

[Michelle Obama]

Do not mess with this angel. Stop it. Just stop it.

[Craig Robinson]

That's right.

[Michelle Obama]

Right.

[Craig Robinson]

She got a. She got us with her now for.