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In this episode, we explore a powerful question: what would AI look like if it were built not just for the world as it is, but for the world as it could be?

How can we design AI systems that truly reflect underrepresented voices and perspectives? What would it take to move beyond surface-level fixes and tackle the deeper biases that shape today’s technologies?

We ask how AI might become a tool for empowerment—especially for communities with limited digital access—rather than a force that widens existing inequalities. And we examine the roles that governments, tech companies, and civil society must play in building a more inclusive AI future.

In this episode, we spoke with:

Wakanyi Hoffman, Lead Researcher for Sustainable African AI Systems at the Inclusive AI Lab.
Andreas Wegner and Thomas Kuber, co-founders of Futur2, a critical design studio based in Berlin. Andreas spoke from Japan and Thomas from Germany.
Sunny Wijerwardana, Head of Product at Grab Maps, based in Australia.