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A pulp MX Network production. A cerebral and experienced look into the racing action from the week that was. This is Industry Seating with Jason Thomas. Presented by Pirelli Tires Guts Racing Plum Creek Funding Pro Blow Wash Works connection, Bass Foundry, TL Speed Shop Concept, Cod Design Co. Grandstone Boots and Fly Racing. Welcome to the Industry City podcast. My name is Jason Thomas. It is Sunday. I'm actually coming to you on a Sunday that is a miracle in and of itself. It is 9-15-2024 and yesterday was the second round of the SMX World Championship playoffs and they were in Texas. And I'm not even going to try. I guess it's Fort Worth. People lose their mind if we say it was Dallas. I was told he was even actually a city called Roanoke. I don't know man. I just know it was hot and the track wasn't great. I do know those things. Thank the sponsors of this podcast because they are great. Much better than that racetrack was Pirelli Tires Guts Racing. Check them out. 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But for anybody who was outside the whole time, and I was so jealous of my broadcast partners like Ricky and James Stewart and Weege and the production truck and all these people that I work with, that many of them, you. You don't know and you'll probably never know, but they are the people behind the scenes that make this all. And make the whole TV thing happen. And I. I didn't know many of them until the last few years, but they were all inside in the ac and I was with Will Christian and all the guys, you know, Adam Sincerella, Brayton, Katie Osborne. We were all out there. We were sweating a lot, to be real frank with you. And no one should feel sorry for us. I'm. This is my dream job. This is all I've ever wanted to do outside of racing professionally. So if I had to sweat like that every single time, guess what? I would do it. But for the riders, they had to be feeling it because it was. It was a big difference from most of the weekends we've had in a very long time. Yes, it was 20 minutes plus a lap. That certainly helped. But I can promise you, they. They were feeling it. You know, did it show up in their lap times? Maybe not. But, you know, I would bet last night after the race, when they, you know, took a shower and were relaxing, they could feel they'd have taken more out of them than normal, because I think everybody did. Everybody that was there, even the fans, I would bet there when they got to their house or their hotel or whatever, they're like, man, it was. That was. That was a rough day out in the sun. But I'm just glad I didn't have to ride that racetrack. You want. I wondered how it would be going in, and I don't. I don't always know what's going to happen. That's, you know, ridiculous to ever surmise that. But I was very curious as to how this track was going to be, because when you mix in really high temps and hard adobe Texas clay, that's not a good combo. I just, you know, and supercross, like, that is a really, really difficult combination to pretend it's going to work or think it's going to be. Any sort of conducive. Conducive conditions or high traction or make for good racing. I would say the odds were against all those things. And that's. That's what we got. We got a really difficult racetrack that all the riders pretty much hated. They didn't hate the layout. It was the condi. It was the way the track turned out because it got so hard and so slippery. And look at all the crashes we had. I mean, that's not normal. I, you know, if you listen to the review podcast we did earlier today, there were so many crashes in the rhythm section and even before the rhythm section because everybody was losing, especially the front end coming into it. I was standing right by it. So it was, it was. It was impossible really for me to miss. But I, man, I would have to go through every single rider because it was. It was damn near all of them. Rider DeFrancesco crashed twice in the first moto alone in the same spot. You saw, you saw the crashes we put on tv. Like, there was a bunch of those. Those are kind of the highlights. But there were so many more behind him, are behind the leaders that we just don't have the opportunity to show. Justin Cooper, for example, he cracked his collarbone in the second moto in that spot. Like it was over and over and over again. All that was happening is riders are coming up to it and you hit the jump at an angle. Coming out of that, there was like a rise on the inside and the outside was flat. It was where Hayden Deegan was tripling in. Well, coming from the inside, they were coming off that ledge at an angle onto the takeoff, and the front end comes unweighted and it's at an angle on virtually ice is what they're trying to turn on. And the front end pushes away and they have no feel at all like it's just instantly gone. And they are off, off the bike, like it's just completely pushes away from them. And they have two options. Either hold on and you crash big, which is like what Carson Mumford, he crashed in that section compound fractured his leg in the first practice of the morning. I forgot about him. It's another rider that got hurt there. But literally, it was one of the most basic sections. But it was so treacherous because of the slippery conditions. And if you didn't just let the bike go, like completely push it away and accept the crash, it got much worse. The crash was going to be much, much worse if you tried to hang on to it. So there were. There were a million tiny crashes that really didn't hurt. It was no big deal other than really screwing your race up. But man, it was such a unique dynamic in that corner. I wish we had some sort like a static camera just set up right there all day long so we could put some sort of compilation together because it wouldn't be anything egregious like as far as like thrills, chills and spills or anything like that. It was just the volume of crashes. There were amazing. As for the 250 class, I mean Hayden Deegan just is absolutely annihilating these guys. You know, he's not winning by 30 seconds but he is in such firm control of the 250 class right now and he, he's the guy there. There's really no other way you could honestly put it or, or view it. He is the guy in 250 supercross and motocross in America at the moment. I, I wish so badly that he was going to motocross the nations. You know, we've, we've already kind of crossed that bridge. We've talked about it. It's beating a dead horse but man, to not have him going into that race is, it's tough. That is a really tough look for, for everybody involved in my opinion. Now we just got to go finish the deal. Got a really nice lead. He doesn't have to do a lot. I think he has to get third or better, something like that if my math is correct. And yeah, barring disaster, you know, he'll be a two time SMX world champion in 250 class and another 500k for his troubles. Plus the 100k he's already earned in purse money for the first two. So you think if he wins again, which he's going to be the odds on favorite, there's no doubt he has a chance to make 650k, you know, in three weeks. That's not bad. You know, I don't, I don't know if he has any other bonuses. I don't know what else is involved, but I've heard that many of the teams are not paying bonuses for these races. So 650k, three weeks. Yeah, it's good money if you can get it right. Joe Shimota, man, he's been solid. I was blown away at his, his performance in Charlotte and he backed it up this weekend because remember that collarbone? Like he's kind of brushed it off and I don't think that's fair to brush it off like in, in a good way. Like he deserves more than brushing it off because that is, that is truly phenomenal. To come back and be this good, this quickly coming off an injury, you know, if he just said, hey, I'm not going to race, I need some time off and practiced for four weeks. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, I don't care. I wouldn't even, I wouldn't even give him a ton of credit. But yeah, this is what he's supposed to do at factory Honda, but he had a freaking broken collarbone. Like, that changes the algebra so much for me as far as what the expectation is. So great job for Joe Shimoto. It does beg the question, though. It does beg the question. Is this late, late season Joe Shimota, is it? I'll let you be the judge of that. But that, that narrative is certainly out there. Late season Joe is in full effect. Tom Vial back on the podium. That was a solid day. You know, I, I kind of the same day as Joe, you know, really solid, Nothing crazy. But on the podium, that's what he, that's where he needs to be. Like, if he can't beat Hayden right now, you know, I don't think anybody's thrilled about that. On his, his side, ktm, him, anybody. I don't think anybody's like jumping up and down about losing to Hayden. But if you can't do it, then at least be on the podium. Like that is, that's a big deal, right? Like to be off the podium for what the ask is of him. They want wins out of him. And if you can't do that, then second best has to be the next step. Like, you know what I mean? Trying to kind of quantify what it means. If you're a Red Bull KTM like you, you're gonna go, well, we need to be winning. Because their KTM is hardcore about winning. That's, that's the only acceptable result to them, you know, like big picture and, and within reason. Right. They are just so locked in on winning races. But for your job security, for them wanting to push you forward to the 450 class eventually and then wanting to write you big checks and all those things, all the, all those boxes, they want to check for you, you need to be doing your part and that means getting results. And if you can't win, you damn sure better be second. And yeah, that's kind of what he, what he was this weekend. Rj. Oh, this sucks. I went to Florida last week and did an interview with him. We're gonna, we're gonna put some content out for rj. Long overdue. In my opinion. And I got to do a sit down with him and spend some time with him. And I'm such a big RJ fan. We have so much in common, both being from Florida. And, you know, I knew his father when he raced, and I've got to watch him his whole career, you know, and so I hate to see him go down like that. Like, he took such a big hit from the bike. And if you watch the crash, you'll think that I thought initially, and probably many people that weren't really watching it closely thought he, you know, hit his head or knocked himself out or whatever happened. I don't have. I'm not a doctor, but he looked like he knocked himself out. You would think it was from the ground, but it's actually from the bike hitting him. The bike. He kind of steps off the bike and the bike bounces off the ground and back into his face and just wallops him. I mean, wallops him. And that's what did the damage, man. He got hit hard. But I will say, and this brings me no joy to say, but RJ is a habitual line stepper, and that is that. I'm taking that from the Chappelle Show. If you ever watch the Chappelle show, you'll get that reference. But what a habitual line stepper is, is someone who is always pushing the limit. Always, you know, just. They're over the line. You're over the limit, Right? Like, and when you do that all the time, you are going to pay the price eventually. It doesn't mean you can't have great races. It doesn't mean you can't win the 250 West Coast Supercross Championship. It just means you are going to get penalized for your actions. Right? Like, if you're constantly taking too many chances and the limit is here, and you are one level over the limit all the time because you want it. Like, it's. It's from desire, right? Like, he wants to win and you want. But, like, I don't think you can constantly just stay there without suffering horrific consequences like he did yesterday. So that's just my take on it. I don't. That's not any fun for me to say, but that's kind of how I see it. You know, there. There are limits. Everybody has their limits. And if you're going to constantly push them and go past them, you're going to have big crashes. That's just. That's the only way I know how to. How to put it. And, yeah, he certainly was on the losing end of that one yesterday, Levi Kitchen's the last note I have on the 250 class, and he's still third in points. But he kind of wasn't a factor in Texas. And, you know, there's nothing wrong with what he's doing. But we saw what he's capable of in supercross this year. Like, we saw he can do it. And even in pro motocross, like, he is absolutely capable. And you don't know what's going on. You don't know if it's just long season fatigue, is. He just kind of lost the edge of intensity, which certainly happens. That. That definitely is a thing. I've felt it. You just have this incredibly long year, and your body's just out of gas. You are just simply out of gas. As far as getting up for the weekend, pushing the limit, being able to hold your highest heart rate, hold the highest intensity, it's not even a psychological thing. Your body is just worn out. And I'm not. I don't know that that's where he is. I'm just giving possible explanations for why we're not seeing we buy Kitchen's best stuff. It could also just be the track sucked. That could. That could be it, too, you know, like, I don't quite know what's going on, you know, and he wasn't terrible. He's third in points, for crying out loud. But it's all. Versus the expectation of what we know he's capable of. That's the thing. In the end, that's the thing. Expectation is everything. If, you know, I'll put myself into this, because I'm the only one talking on this podcast on a certain weekend. If I knew the ceiling was like, ninth, like, if I rode my heart out and I put my bet, I just did everything right. I wasn't. I couldn't do better than, like, eighth or ninth because I just knew I didn't have the equipment, I didn't have the talent, I didn't have the ability. My ceiling was 8th or 9th in a particular weekend. Well, if I got 16th, I'm not going to be thrilled with that. Right. If I get 11th, it's like, okay, you know, not my best every weekend, but, like, I'm close to, like, doing it as good as I can. And that's all you can really ask for is, like, try to be as near your best as possible. And I just feel like Kitchen is not quite at his best level. Right. If you want to insert Levi Kitchen, winning would be the best he's capable of. And for him to be 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 in a particular moto, you know, especially on the backside of that, the latter part of that, like 6, 7, 8, which he was doing a couple times, you know, just something's not quite right. And that. That's all I'm getting to. No jump into the 450s. We do the power rankings here, and we'll bring it back today. Number 10 is Malcolm Stewart, and certainly nothing wrong with what Malcolm's got going on. I mean, he's. He's older. Like, Malcolm's got to be 30 years old, something like that. I'm guessing. I don't. I mean, I remember him racing like 2011, 2012. That's 13 years ago. So figure 29, 30, 31, I don't know. But he's been around a minute, so to think he is going to be still improving at this point of his career is probably unlikely. You know, it's probably wishful thinking, but he's on a factory bike, he's getting top tens. Does he want more? Of course he does. Everybody does. But, yeah, it's just one of those things where it's really hard to. To get better when you're on the. You know, closer to 30 than not. He may even be 30. I don't. I don't quite know, but I'm not going to hate on his effort. You know, I. I think the bike is. Some of this. I don't think his motorcycle is great. I don't think he would tell you it's great either. I don't think Christian Craig would tell you it's great either. So I think there's something to that. But I just, you know, we all want to see Heat race Mookie, you know, that that's crazy Sprint speed. I just don't know if it's there anymore. You know, maybe that's. Maybe that's something, you know, something from yesteryear. I don't know. That might. He might have just grown out of that. You know, that happens, too. It's harder. It's harder as you get older to find that craziness, the crazy bursts of speed. It's just. It's just a harder thing to find. Jay Coop is number nine, and he may. He may be out after this week because that cracked collarbone. I don't know how bad it is. I don't know if he'll be able to race Vegas or not. We'll have to see. I guess. I don't. I heard it's A hairline kind of fracture. So maybe, you know, if it's not a dangerous situation, he'll go race Vegas and try to get points and try to get more money. We'll just have to wait and see on that. But he crashed in that same rhythm section. Same thing as I talked about. Top of the show, loss of front end. Off we go. Happens time and time and time again. Jason Anderson, I mean, really, he was just, I think, happy to be racing. You know, he had that huge crash in practice, didn't race in Charlotte. And I think coming in, he was just like, man, I just want to get some points. It's not going to be my best effort. No one should expect me to be on the podium. Like, I think that's the fair way to, you know, for me as an analyst, thinking about his weekend going in and after, I think that's appropriate. You know, he's just lucky to be out there with an injury. And eight. Eight. It's okay, you know, nothing to write home about, but nothing to sneer at. Knowing the situation as well. Kenny Rockson, he was. He was pretty good, right? And Steve and I kind of. It's funny where we landed on this, because I was like, first Moto, like, those guys passed him, Hunter passed him, Tomac passed him. They all pulled away from him like it wasn't. Or this second Moto, whatever Moto they pat. I just remember those guys passing him and pulling away. And for Kenny, I know how good he is like that to me. And you remember how awesome he was last year in these races. He won the Chicago race, which would have been round two, just like this was round two. So I'm judging off that. And it's not that. I know he's coming off a knee injury. That's not 100%. So I'm not going to bury him for that result. But I also know what he's capable of. So it comes back to that. It's always, you know, the judgment is always going to be based off of expectation and what they're capable of. If that was Marshall Welton doing what Roxann did, we'd be over the moon. Like, if that was Phil Nicolette, we'd be over the moon. Right. But it's not. It's Ken Rockson. So what we're grading. What we're grading on is a much different expectation level. So you have to react accordingly. So it was okay. And Mathis came down on. Kenny was pumped. He rode really well. The second Moto he was said he was catching Tomac well, I don't remember that. I'm sure it happened. I just don't remember. That's not my recollection of the event. I just remember getting passed. So it's funny how people remember kind of what they want to, especially for riders. Riders always remember that. Very selective memory. And I just remember what I saw was like, Kenny was in the mix, and then those guys passed him and pulled away. And I was like, ah, that's. That's a tough thing to swallow when you're right there and you can't stay with them. Cooper Webb is at number six. And you may say, why? Why is Cooper six? Like, that's crazy. Well, he didn't race outdoors, and when he did, it wasn't good. And then his Charlotte race was terrible. So I'm factoring that, all of that in after a great supercross series, and I think six makes sense, you know, like, he shouldn't be ahead of ap, not after motocross. But Webb was better. He was better this weekend. You know, 20, 25A1 is when he needs to be his best. Right now, he knows he's not his best. He knows he needs more time, he needs to get in better shape. He needs to get more time back on the bike. He needs to get, like, all the fine tuning done. But this was, make no mistake, this was a better weekend than Charlotte, and that's all you want. Like, if last weekend sucked, make this weekend better. If this weekend was okay, make Vegas even better than that. That's. That's all these, you know, in the most basic sense, that's all these guys are trying to do. Be better than I was last weekend. Aaron Plessinger, he has a hurt shoulder and he's fighting through that, which is not a great setup for motocross Nations. Chance Hymas has a hurt knee. He didn't even race. That's not a great setup for motocross the nation. So our Motocross the Nations team is in big trouble right now. I hope that it gets better, but it's not looking great at the moment. Let's just say that I don't think we're in danger of, like, not racing or anything like that, but like, to go in and think you're going to have a chance at doing really well. We're like a triage unit at the moment. Now, AP wasn't awful, you know, but he's not 100. I. I talked to him. I got to see him on two on Wednesday. He is not 100. So what does that look like come October, time will tell. You know, I'm sure taking a weekend off will help, but it's not ideal. That's. I guess that's the best I can give you is. It's not ideal. Eli Tomac, you know, it's. I don't want to go back to the motocross nations thing, right? But look how good he's riding. Look at the improvements he's made. You can't tell me that he is not probably the choice for motocross nations. If the choice is made now. I don't think you can tell me that. Like, I just don't think that you can tell me that right this second. Like, I don't think that would be appropriate. So what can we do about it? Really? Nothing. Let's just hope. Let's just hope it goes well. You know, our decisions have already been made. We had to make the best decision in the moment possible. But, yeah, it's tough. It's tough. Let's talk about Tomac specifically, though. Sakamoto, he kind of couldn't close the gap, which I thought he was going to. I really think the tire was a big factor. It had to be really difficult to ride that track with that tire with the way conditions. Conditions deteriorated. And also, I think he's so locked in on the start with that tire, it's like it's going to put him in the best position possible. And when it doesn't, now you don't get the start and you have a tire that is not conducive to the race conditions. So it's like a. You didn't get the advantage and now you have to deal with the disadvantage. So it's. It's a big risk, this big reward scenario, and I think that's really what held him back in that second moto. Hunter Lawrence is number three. It's one of the highest he's been to some this summer, but with a full field, probably the highest he's been. That was a huge win. I mean, absolutely huge win for Hunter Lawrence, and I can't say that I saw it coming. He wasn't really even close to that at Charlotte, so. So great job to him. He put himself in good position. He fought for that first moto win, and, you know, he didn't. He made some mistakes, but he didn't make the critical error at the wrong time. And now he's the points leader. He's got the red plate. You know, it's going to be winner take all for the final, so it kind of doesn't matter. You know, in a sense, it doesn't matter, but it has to feel good. And that a hundred thousand dollars paycheck certainly felt good for winning the race. So, yeah, I think everybody kind of felt good for Hunter. Like, it was a feel good moment for a guy who has not always had the easy road. Like, he has suffered some real hardship in his career. So anytime Hunter does good, it doesn't take a lot for me to smile for him. Jet Lawrence is number two. And there are going to be people that are like, how do you put Jet to how. Right. Well, pretty simple. He didn't win the Pro Motocross Championship. He is nine points out of the SMX World Championship. And Sexton won the Pro Motocross Championship and Sexton won the Sakamoto by like 15 seconds. So you could argue that it could be flipped. And Jeff should be one in Sexton quid too. I probably wouldn't put up a big fight with that because I'm a huge Jet proponent. But I'm going to give it to Sexton this week because I think Jet really let himself down this weekend. You know, that first moto, he got the lead, then he stalled it. He. I don't think he used enough urgency in his riding at the beginning of the moto. You know, he didn't ensure that Tomac was going to stay in that gap they had built up. So I just think it was kind of a missed weekend. And I think that's why Jett was so pissed. Like, he was very angry after the race. I'm telling you. Like, he did a good job of kind of hiding it and being an adult on the podium. But I'm just telling you he was very upset with how that race went. And I think you're going to see a very fired up Jet Lawrence at Vegas. Not that that means he'll win. I'm just telling you he is extremely motivated right now, or at least he was yesterday afternoon that that guy was pissed off. So we'll see. We'll see what he brings. But I, I think it's fair to put him at two right now. He'll be one probably for years to come. I'm fully aware of that. He'll, he's, he'll probably be one for a very long time, but I think it was a miss for him this weekend. So I'm going to bump him to two. Number one is Chase Sexton. And that second motto is a statement win. Right. Like, there was a flinching on the gate that threw off Hunter that threw off Jed, it threw off a lot of guys and it brought Ferrandus to the front. It brought Sexton to the front. But these things happen. It happened at Unadilla too. And guess what happened to Unadilla. Chase Sexton absolutely yarded everybody. And guess what happened in the second moto at Texas. Chase Sexton absolutely yarded everybody. So if you're going to tell me that there's not something mental going on with Chase and getting out front and he, he's not buying it. He is out on that concept. I, I kind of don't care, like, I kind of don't care that he's not there. It, the evidence is too stark to ignore. There's just too much, it's too blatantly clear that when he gets out front, he rides so much different, so much more confidently and he just puts his head down and absolutely rips. And when he's stuck behind Jet or he just doesn't, he's not the same guy. He is not the same guy. And at some point he's got to figure out how to change that. Like he's, he's truly like Jekyll and Hyde when he's out front and when he's not. And I don't know, I'm not a sports psychologist, but it's becoming a thing like, or it's already become a thing like it. In my mind, it is truly a thing that is real and it's as real as the results are. And more and more and more evidence we are getting to support it. So it's tough, it's a tough setup for Chase because he's not the best starter and Jed is one of the best starters we've seen and that Honda is extremely proficient on the starts. So if you have a rider that struggles to pass another rider and one of them, the guy that, the guy that can't pass is the one that doesn't get the starts. You tell me what that means. Pretty sure it's going to be a tough setup moving forward. So I can't wait for this weekend, you know, like, Mathis is so jaded and like, I, I don't know what his deal is. I really don't. But like, he just won't buy into this SMX World Championship thing. He's like, oh, you guys are on the pay, like, fine, whatever. Yeah, we are. We are on the broadcast team. But you're going to tell me that a three way winner take all between Hunter, Jet and Chase isn't exciting for a million freaking Dollars. Get out of here. Like, I don't care what you push back with. When I tell you that, when I tell, if I tell anybody that we have a one race where any of those three win and they get a million bucks, that's exciting. Doesn't have to be anything. I don't care if you don't respect the SMX World Championship. I don't care if you think that it's not as prestigious as supercross or motocross, that's fine. Everybody's entitled to their own opinion. But if you don't think it's exciting, you're watching the wrong sport. Like that is a, that's a big deal. And if you don't think that Jet cares, then you didn't see him after the race and I realized most people didn't, but I did and he was thoroughly pissed off. So any doubts about whether these guys care about this or not, I'm here to tell you, you should not think that. That's pretty piss poor analysis by me. But it was very clear how much this meant to Jet by the anger that was radiating out of him, like out of his pores after that second moto. So yeah, it's, it's going to be a great weekend, man. I, you know, like I told Matt, it's like what do you want? You want it to be like a Deegan thing where it's already over before it starts? Like that's not great. That sucks. So at least we have this three way winner take all fight for the premier championship. I, I don't know, man. Like, this isn't about math. It's. I, but I just think there are other people that feel this way. It's not even a math this thing. It's just that I've heard that pushback. It's like, yeah, this, yeah, but is this, is this even a big championship? Like, forget it. If you don't even have to care about the championship. It's a million dollars. Like what would you do for a million dollars? How much would you care about a million dollars? Like that's truly life, life changing money. No matter how you feel about it. It is. It can be life changing money for anybody. It really can be. So that's it for this week. Thanks everybody for listening. Thank you to all the sponsors. Pirelli Tires, Guts Racing, Plum Creek Funding, TL Speed Shop Works Connection Pro Glow Wash Concept coatings design company, Grant Stone Boots Fly Racing. Thanks everybody for being a part of this thing. Thanks everybody for listening and we'll come to try to get to Sunday. After this race, I'll be still down in Vegas. We'll be at Bill Nick Weddy's retirement party. Sunday night. Should be a good time. Saturday night? Saturday night. But I'll be at Mathis's on Sunday. So thanks, everybody. See you later.