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A cerebral and experienced look into the racing action from the week that was. This is Industry Seating with Jason Thomas. Presented by Guts Racing, Works, Connection, TL Speed Shop, Unmatched Supplements, Firepower Parts, Grandstone Boots and Fly Racing.

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Welcome to the Industry Seating podcast. My name is Jason Thomas. It is what is today, Thursday, November 20th, and we are in between the Paris Supercross and the AUSX Supercross, which is in Melbourne, Australia. And first off, I want to apologize for not having done enough podcasts lately. I feel like I've been doing many other podcasts, lots of other shows. I've been flying all over the place, doing literally media all over the world, but I have not been spending enough time on my own podcast and I for that I apologize. I want to thank the sponsors of this podcast who have been so loyal and I appreciate all of them. Guts racing works connection, race-rentals.com which of course is Jason Cobb and his team down in Arizona. I want to thank Fly Racing, I want to thank Firepower, I want to thank Grandstone Boots, I want to thank Unmatched Supplements for keeping me in such great shape. And I'm about to have a knee procedure done, just my meniscus cleaned up on Monday, so I'll be taking advantage of all the unmatched supplements there as well. But thank you to all of those. TL Speed Shop is the sister company of race-rentals.com so I wanted to mention them as well. But thank you to everybody for being a part of this thing. And let's get into it. I want to cover what happened in Paris and a little bit of that'll kind of roll into what is going to happen in Australia. I'll touch on Vancouver just a tiny bit, but without further ado, Paris. This is my first time to the Paris Supercross and that sounds crazy because I've been to races all over the world and I've been to Bursi many times. So if you don't know the difference, maybe you're young, maybe you don't pay attention to these offseason races. I don't know. Lots of reasons you wouldn't know this, but Paris and Bersey are basically the same event, but they're held in different venues. This was the 42nd edition of this race. It used to be called Paris Bercy. Now it's just the Paris Supercross because it's in Paris proper. It used to be in an area of Paris, like a. Just a part of it. Like if you're in New York, and you're in Manhattan, like, Chelsea or Harlem or Brooklyn. Same thing. This was just the Bursy area of Paris. Now it's in a different area. It's a little bit further north of where we used to be. And it's a bigger arena. It's a nicer arena, holds a lot more people, much more modern, and it's just a better race overall. It is. It's a. It's. I think the area's a little bit nicer. It's kind of a little bit more upscale area. Really nice hotels and restaurants all around it. Where Bursi was, okay, the stadium was just. It was old. Like, it had, you know, if this is the 42nd race, 42nd year. So they were racing there in the 80s. And I'm. I don't know how long the stadium was there before then, but it was. That's really why we stopped going to Bursy in, like, 2014. They started doing renovations to the Bercy stadium. So they went to a city called Lille, which is on the Belgium border, and then they came back to Law defense arena in 2018. Excuse me, 2018. And they've been there ever since. So this was my first time to this arena, which is a complicated way of saying it's my first time to this race. But it's kind of not really. Same promoters, same everything, just a different venue for the same event. This track is much bigger. Lap times are longer. There's a lot of upside to this race now. It's. It doesn't have the nostalgia that Bursi had. It doesn't have the history that Bersey had. It doesn't have the tunnel, the really fast tunnel that we would go out and literally wide open down like Bursy has. And it's crazy. Back in those days, you'd go out and it'd be warm inside the stadium, relatively like normal temperature for an arena. And then we would go out into the tunnel, and it would be freezing cold. And think about, like, tunnels. Like, you get wind anyway, like, literally a wind tunnel, and we're just head on into it. And it would be so damn cold. And I could never figure out if I was, like, upset about the cold blast or if it was, like, cooling you down a little bit from, you know, like, your body heat of the main event. But it was, like, a very distinct, unique aspect of this event that you really don't get in other places, like maybe like that St. Louis thing. But this was a much different thing. And if you're Wondering what I'm talking about? Just Google Bursi Supercross and you'll see it immediately, like the first lap, you'll see them going to the tunnel and it's really fast section and it could have. Honestly, it could go really sketchy if you had a big crash or did something out there. I don't really remember that happening. It's kind of amazing that it didn't because we're going so fast out there. But it was kind of a cool aspect of the old stadium. So let's start with SX2 and I'll be honest with you, Essex2 is a little underwhelming. It's the Prince of Paris, used to be Prince of Bercy. And there are some heavy hitters throughout history at this event. Guys like David Pingree and Nick Way and David Villaman and Joe Shimoda and Tom Vial. And just go through the list if you ever want to Wikipedia it. Big names have been Prince of Pers, Prince of Paris or Prince of Bercy, however you want to phrase it. In the past, I felt like this year was a little. The lineup was just lacking some. Some star power. Just truthfully, I don't know if they swung and missed at some guys. I don't know what the backstory was. Maybe just budget, right? They have. They have Webb, Jet Hunter, Malcolm Val. That's. Those are some big dollars. So you figure you probably have half a million start money in just those. What I was at five guys. So maybe they were just lacking budget and they didn't have money to go out and get a Shimoda or whoever, whatever. Big name 250 guy you want to insert, like a Cole Davies who's injured, but a guy like that. So the racing was fine. You know, Anthony Bourdon, however you want to say it. Burden, I've heard Burden, I've heard Bordon, he won. And it was a battle between he and Luke Clout. Clout got into a crash in the second to last race, which wasn't his fault. I believe it was either. Suleimani, I think it was him, came back across on him in the. On the first second straightaway, I guess, and cleaned him out. It wasn't. It was a racing incident, but it was really unfortunate for Clout. So Bordon wins, Klout gets second overall. They were basically the same. To be really honest, the advantage that Cloud has, his starts were better. Burden was Burdon. I don't know how I'm going to say this. He was a little bit better in the Whoops. Consistently. But Clout was putting himself in better situations. So it kind of evened out in the end. And it was really 51, 49. Like if you told me one, one of the guys won the overall and the other didn't, I would shrug my shoulders because they were basically the same level all weekend long. So it just came down to who made the critical mistake or who had the unfortunate incident. And in the end, that was Clout. So cool. For Bourdin, you know, to win the Prince of Paris is a big deal, especially being a French rider. It's something he'll like, never forget. He'll go down the history as the Prince of Paris. It is a big deal, legacy wise to win that. So kudos for him. It was Clout's first time ever to the race, so kind of like. And I don't know that I'd want, you know, if I had to choose, I would probably choose Bourdon because he's raced before. He was runner up last year. It means so much to the French to win this race. So that was a, that was a cool thing. And Clout is an Australian, first time in Paris. He'll have his opportunity, right? Like, it's not supposed to come easy, you know, so I'm okay with him like just being edged out because it's tough. Like you, you know, I raced in Germany. I'll give you an example. I went to Germany my first year and I was 19 years old, 20 years old, something like that. No idea what I was doing. Raced the big bike class. So I wasn't like Prince of Paris. I was in SX1. I think I made two main events out of ten for the series. It's difficult. I really struggled. And it wasn't that I wasn't riding well and it was. I didn't have the equation sorted out. I didn't have to win in Europe, especially Germany. You need to have positive momentum and you need to know how to execute. And I learned this painfully and then I really leaned into my expertise there. But you need to qualify well to get a good gate pick. You need to get a good start in your first heat and finish well, preferably win. That transfers into your like what they call a half final. You need so you'll get a good gate pick for that, get a good start again, win or finish well. And that. So you get a good gate pick for the main event and it's like a snowball of momentum that you need to stay on the right side of. That is how you win. In Germany, period. Trust me, I've won there a lot. I know very few things in this world, but I know how to win German Supercross races. And you have to stay. You have to stay on the right side of the curve, whatever cliche you want to throw at it. It's very, very important to winning over there that Europe's kind of like that. You can't have a big misstep or things start to unravel on you. It's just how things go over there because really small gates. If you get put on the outside of the start, you really don't have a chance because the start is so short. And then you're just chasing and chasing and chasing this negative scenario, and you just can't ever get back on the right side of it. So I think for clout, he did a great job. He did really well in Germany. The weekend before they raced in Stuttgart, a race that I've won many, many times. I won it three years in a row at one point. I know this podcast, it is about me, but if I get to talk about European Supercrosses, I'm gonna. I'm gonna go for it, because I don't get to talk about my racing very much anymore. But I thought he did really well for his first time in Stuttgart, kind of understanding what to do well, and he's a great starter. That is a huge coup for racing in Europe. If you start well, wife gets much easier. If your starts are terrible, you're going to be fighting an uphill climb every step of the way. And unless you're just so much better than everybody else, like a Chad Reed level guy, it's hard to overcome that. It really is, because you just can't ever kind of get out from behind the eight ball with bad gate picks. So. Good job, the clout. Good job, Berdon. Everybody else was kind of so. So there just wasn't any big names. It was fine, but honestly, the SX2 racing was a little bit boring, in my opinion. Let's jump directly into SX1. So Malcolm wins. And honestly, he was an absolute revelation at this. At this race. And I said on the broadcast that this was the best I'd ever seen him ride. I stand behind it, you know, and immediately everybody's like, you know, even Mathis, like, what about Tampa? What about Tampa? And I'm like, listen, I'm not discounting Tampa, But Tampa was 21 minutes of perfection by Malcolm. And honestly, it wasn't perfection. He didn't get a great start, but he was so good in the whoops and relentless that he moved to the front. Sexton goes down, and he did exactly what he needed to do. Fantastic job in Tampa. I'm not taking anything away from Tampa, but when I look at the body of work from Malcolm in Paris, I think this was better. I truly do. From the jump. Okay, Jet beats him in time qualifying on Saturday. Barely. Barely beats him. Then Malcolm just absolutely dominates Saturday night. Hole shots, fastest laps, no mistakes. Like, what else can you possibly do? He was the best guy, period. End of story. Saturday night, go out Sunday, fastest qualifier wins a super pole. And he had. His starts weren't as dialed on Sunday, but I don't think you'll find anybody that say he wasn't the fastest guy on Sunday. Jet had one race where he kind of checked out, but the other one that Jet won, Malcolm was catching him, and then Malcolm won the other one. So I look at it as a collective body of work throughout the weekend. He was checking so many boxes on an exceptional level. I just think this is the best I've seen from him because there were really no holes in the game. He didn't get bad starts. He didn't make mistakes. He didn't have crashes. His laps were fast. His whoops were fast. He was good in and out of the corners. He had really innovative lines. He was dialed like he was. He. Okay. Jet jumped the quad first. But as soon as Malcolm saw Jet do it, he immediately did it. He had this quad in a rhythm section, like, quad single into a corner. He was the first one to do that. Jet picked it up later. But, like, the point is he was innovating on the level of Jet, right? No one else was trying this stuff. No one else was doing this stuff. Just those two. And they were kind of tit for tat. So if you're going to say that Malcolm was the same as Jet on that level and beat him consistently throughout the weekend, I mean, that's the highest level he's ever been at, period, full stop. Like, it's the best performance I've ever seen from Malcolm. You may have a different opinion. Other people can disagree and say Tampa was better. That's fine. I'm not here to argue it. This is just my opinion based on what I saw consistently over the course of two days, not just one main event. That, to me, is the difference in why I say that Jet Lawrence was not terrible, but not great. I would if, you know, if I was a teacher and give him a score, I would give him like a B on the weekend water mistakes, crashes in the Super Pole. He gets blasted by vl, which is not his fault in the first race and then has a pretty big crash entering the loops. Loses the front end. So very atypical Jett Lawrence mistakes. He did show some brilliance also. It wasn't all terrible. Like, you know, that's why I would give him the B grade because it was kind of an in between type thing. So I think he would probably look back on the weekend and say, eh, wasn't my best work. Which is fair. It was not his best work. But he is usually not mistake prone and I saw a lot of mistakes from Jet and I. That's why I kind of was like iffy on the weekend because he looked out of sorts at times. He usually is just not the guy that is throwing it away for really no reason. The questions I have are, was this rusty? Like was he just not. Is he not in season form, hasn't been riding, been taking time off and then when you try to go race pace, the mistakes show up. Is that what this was? I don't know. It's a question I'm posing. Was there any variable here with running a production motorcycle versus his factory bike? Because there is differences like the frames, they're not different frames so I want to be careful with that. But they gusset them, they add stability in area. So they are. They do react differently, make no mistake about that. They're within the legal parameters, but they are different, if that makes sense. Different engines, lots of different components. So was the bike reacting differently? If he expects A to happen and he gets B, was that causing him to end up on the ground? I don't know. That's something he would have to answer if he wanted to answer. Honestly, I'm not really sure, but I think the result was different. So it has to be. The question has to be posed, how much of a role did that play? Who knows? We're going to get more insight from Australia. He's going to have the same situation. Last year he did this in Australia, ran production bikes. It wasn't great. Like he got poor starts, he crashed. It was not a good weekend for Gent Lawrence in Australia on this same scenario. So will he be better this weekend than he was in Paris, than he was a year ago in Australia? I think he will, but time will tell and we're going to have more evidence and more information to draw conclusions from after Australia to these questions that I'm posing. But overall, you know, I think he got out of there safe. He made A bunch of money, but it wasn't like a banner Jet Lawrence coming out party weekend. It just was not that. I don't know that I expected that. I thought he would win, but he. His track record at these offseason races, motocross nations is the exception. But these offseason supercrosses, his track record is not spectacular. It's really not. He lost Paris last year. He lost Paris this year. He lost Australia last year. What do we get in Australia this year? That is my question. Moving on to Cooper Webb. He was solid, and if I had to give him a grade, I would give him like a, A minus, B plus. And the reasons are because I. I like where he is in his program. He got good starts. He didn't crash. He didn't have enough speed either. That definitely needs to be said. But he's going in, trying to gauge himself, make some money, stay safe and get out of there. And I think he accomplished that. I know he wanted to make some motorcycle changes that he wasn't able to because they didn't have the technical staff there. I don't even know if they had the right parts there to make these changes. So that's always difficult, similar to where Jet was. I'm sure Jet would have loved to have had his race bike there. He didn't. So that's always a factor at these races is the changes you would want to make that they would make on race day. They simply can't make at these races because they don't have the resources to make them. So sometimes it's really frustrating. I understand this all too well. I raced Bercy, which is Paris, in 09, and I was second race with factory Connection suspension. It was way too soft. I had won the Montreal Supercross the weekend before. I really liked my setup there. But the track was super hard packed, low traction environment and easy loops. So my bike being soft was fine. It was actually ideal. Go to Paris. The dirt was really soft. It was really sticky, and the extra load plus really big loops. My bike was simply way too soft. We didn't have a way to make it stiff enough. We're all the way out on clickers. And we were not allowed to open our suspension because this was proprietary technology from Works Connection. So I was stuck. And I basically just had to tell Eric Bernard, who's a promoter, and Xavier Oduart, who's the other promoter, hey, man, it's going to be a tough weekend. My bike's too soft and. And I don't have a way to do anything about it. So I apologize. This isn't going to be my best effort and it sucks because you're disappointing them, you're disappointing yourself, you're embarrassing yourself as a racer. But what are you going to do? You're limited on resources and that is kind of what offseason supercrosses are about in a certain way is adapting, making the most of what you have to work with at the time. So for Webb, again, B plus is probably where I would land. I liked how solid he was. He didn't make mistakes, you know, like he didn't have any glaring holes other than he simply wasn't as fast as Malcolm or Jet, full stop. Like that is probably not breaking news. But he, like, they were, they were yarding him pretty bad. Once they would get going and kind of get away, they were putting 10 seconds into him consistently. So that would be something he needs to work on. He's going to have to get faster and he probably knows that. And if this race was in February, he would probably be unhappy with how that went. But it's not, it's November, so he's going to go back to work, try to find some speed. And he, I think he knows that whether it's Sexton or Jet or, you know, whoever is Tomac, if they're on their game, he might not be as fast as them. I think he knows that. I think he's very aware of what his strengths and weaknesses are. Flat out. Sprint speed is not his A game. Right. He, he holds his own, but it's never going to be the, the sword he wields over everyone, just not what he does. He's solid, he's mentally strong, he continually puts himself in positive situations. He's able to avoid the pivotal crash and he's always there and keeps coming. That's what he does. Blistering laps and just yarding everybody is not really the Cooper Webb MO for winning. Hunter Lawrence is up next and man, this was a scary one. I think he's very lucky to be racing in Australia. He's very lucky to not still be in Paris at the hospital. If you saw the image of his helmet on his Instagram, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. I'm pretty sure he took a foot peg to the helmet and that's scary. You know, quality helmets. If you're ever wondering if helmet quality matters, I don't think you would wonder anymore after you look at that helmet. Scary stuff like these guys are taking a lot of risk and you kind of overlook it, you don't think about it too much because they're so good at what they do and they don't make mistakes very often. But I think that crash shows you how fast things can go sideways and the risk that these guys are truly taking. So I thought Hunter was okay. Not a big, you know, like he was kind of just hanging in there all weekend. Pretty solid. He got super pole on Saturday which was cool. But my, the feeling I left with was I'm simply just happy he's okay because it could be a lot worse and I truly like Hunter Lawrence as a person and yeah, just, just thankful that he's all right. Forget about the racing as far as that goes. He'll have a chance to bounce back in Australia, but yeah, just glad he was able to get up. Tom Vial was okay, but being fully honest with you, the listener getting beat in the overall best, Cedric Subarus is not a great look. It's not. You are a two time MX2 world champ. You were a two time 250 East Supercross champ. You're on factory Honda HRC on a full works bike. You should be beating 35 year old Cedric Subarus. Like I don't know how more simply I can put it than that, I don't know how old Cedric is, but it's around that, something like that. You should be beating him on home soil. Like I, I can't put it any more simply than that now he's not racing Supercross next year. I don't think that Giacomo Garibaldi, who is his boss, is stressing about his supercross skills because they're not going to be racing Supercross. But I'm just saying on a debut, look like you want to kind of be in the fight and certainly be ahead of a privateer guy. You want to be the, for one, you want to be the top French guy. That goes without saying. But you, you don't want to get beat by a privateer, that's for sure. So I would kind of give it like a C plus for VL to be honest. It's okay. But I don't think that's kind of what he had his heart set on. Like I think he wanted to be in the fight with those other guys and he just wasn't as good as them. Like yeah, that's really all it came down to is he was not as good as those guys. So taking out Jet Lawrence, the, you know, Honda's golden boy, the first race, not a great look either. Like that's not ideal. He didn't Mean to he over jumped the triple and then just yarded into the fourth one into the Bermuda and blasted Jet. Like that's totally a racing incident, totally a mistake. But not ideal for your first race with Honda either. Imagine if he hurt Jet there. Oh my gosh, like, like nothing he could do about it. It's not like they're going to fire him. But how bad would Tom feel? He hurts Jet the first race. Like, thankfully he didn't. And it's all ifs and buts, but man, that was not the great greatest first weekend for, for Tom Vial. And like, I saw a post and I've talked about this a couple times, but I saw a post from a media outlet talking about is Val gonna make everybody regret not signing him? And like when I watched it I was like, no, no. Because all those guys are really like, they took a video of a clip of a video that Tom posted ripping at this practice track. Well, guess what, everybody that's on a factory 450 team hauls ass at the practice track. Trust me, I know. I practiced with most of them in my day. Posting a video of somebody going really fast at the practice track is not anything new and not evidence that everybody's going to regret not signing them. So when I watched him in Paris struggle a little bit and get beaten by subs for the in the overall, I kind of was like, yeah, you may want to take that post down because now that post looks really silly and it could have been clickbait. Like I'm aware that that stuff happens and maybe they didn't really mean it. They were just trying to get engagement. Well, I certainly was triggered by it because I was like, that is a asinine post to make these teams deserve more credit than that in their analysis. If anybody thought that VL was going to beat a bunch of current crop of 450 factory guys, they're diluting themselves. And I think Paris was pretty good evidence of that. Okay, rant over. Let's move on to Vancouver Supercross. Just want to touch on this quickly. I obviously would just watch the video clips on YouTube or whatever. I wasn't there. Clearly I was not in Vancouver. But I did watch closely to try to learn some things and garner whatever insights I could kind of to push forward into the new year. And I thought TOMAC looked good. You know, that's not breaking news. But when I looked at the track and I and I realized that the same dirt that they used when I raced there 20 years ago almost, I kind of remembered what that Track was like what the dirt was like. And I was like, yeah, this should work for Tomac because Tomac's MO is he wants to be, excuse me, heavy handed on the throttle. He wants to be really aggressive on the racetrack. He wants to attack the racetrack. And if the track is conducive to that, if it will allow you to attack it, he's going to be comfortable and you're going to get Eli's best stuff. The tough part for Eli is when you get kind of mixed conditions. Like for instance, we've seen at times where it's a little slippery or you get mixed conditions at Anaheim where we get rain and then it's like slippery but also like spongy and the bumps get weird and it's really hard to kind of anticipate what the bike's going to do in that type of condition. We've seen Eli struggle. He cannot figure out where to go with the motorcycle. And when he feels uncomfortable, he hesitates a bit, like he backs out to not hurt himself. I think that will happen at times in 26. Like, is it going to happen three times or eight times? I can't tell you. But I'm very sure that you're going to see him struggle every once in a while on a brand new team, a new bike, a new chassis, different metallurgy, like, it's a completely different makeup of a motorcycle than what he's been riding for his entire career. There's no way you can convince me that he's not going to have some sort of setup difficulty in 26. There's just there are way too many different variables to think that will happen because it's happened to him his entire career. So with this much change, why would I ever think it won't happen on the KTM? That's not. That doesn't mean it's Red Bull KTM's fault. That's just the way racing goes. That's what, that's the variance that change brings. And I don't think Eli is going to be any different in 26 than he's been prior. He's going to be great sometimes and other times you're going to. He's going to be head scratching. And I think if you walked by the Red Bull KTM truck after the race, you would see he and his father and his mechanic and a technician looking at the motorcycle, trying to sort out where they kind of got lost on the settings and why Eli wasn't his best self on a particular weekend. That's going to Happen. The question is, when you talk about championships, when you talk about can he be in the championship fight in 26, the question comes down to how many times does it happen? Does it happen twice? Does it happen six times? Does it happen 11 times? Your answer about championship relevant or not is in that question, is in the answer to that question. And I'm removing. I'm removing injuries because obviously if he's injured, forget it. Everything else goes out the window. I'm just going with a healthy, good to go, Eli. I believe the championship relevance question question. The answer to that question comes in the questions that I post. So, yeah, great job. Great debut weekend. Everything was good. When I watched him ride on. On Friday, I was like, ah, he's gonna. He's gonna be good. Like, I think he'll win. I've seen this story before. He's a little bit better than Kenny. He'll find a way to outlast him, and that's exactly what happened. If you've watched these races before between these two, that's typically how it goes. And this is exactly a replay of that. Eli is just a little bit better. And especially on a track where he is allowed to lean into the aggression, that only bolsters his. I'm trying to think of the right word. Effectiveness. There you go. That'll work. So good job for Eli. Kenny kind of the same, you know, Like, I think this isn't an ideal track for Kenny. He was really good, don't get me wrong. But Kenny has an edge. When it's slippery, you have to really be light on the throttle. You have to be super technical. Use your body weight and all these things that Kenny excels at. That is what Kenny does well when aggression is on the menu. It's not that he can't ride that way. It just. He doesn't have an edge on everyone else. Like, look at Argentina. Look how tricky it was. He just dominated those guys because he is so good in those conditions. And I think a lot of that is growing up in Germany. The tracks are like that. Go watch a race in Teutenthal. Go watch a race in Geldorf. Maybe you've never heard of these tracks, but I have. I've been there. They're super rocky, super slippery, and they're really difficult to ride. You can't. You can barely get on the throttle because the rear tire will spin up. Kenny developed that skill set at an early age to excel in conditions like that. And I think that's what Argentina was. This was the antithesis of that and he just didn't have an edge over Tomac the way he might have in Argentina. So we'll see what I'll show you brings. I'm really excited to see Deegan. He looked fantastic on the latest Instagram video he posted. I know it's just Instagram, but I noticed improvement. Seriously, I noticed improvement from prior Instagram videos to this one. He. He just looks more comfortable. He looks more aggressive. His entry speed into the Whoops is better. So I want to see if that shows up in Australia because it's certainly showing up on the practice track. I just noticed he looks more comfortable. Like, that's probably the best way I can say it. And more and more comfortable leads to more speed for Hayden Deegan, more aggression. And it's going to be an interesting race to watch to see him going up against the likes of Tomac, which talked about it before. These races are going to determine whether or not he races anaheim on a 450. So I think Australia is a big chapter in that story. If he goes out and he's in the fight to win, I think we probably see him in Anaheim. I really do. And especially after watching that video today, he's really making improvements and taking steps towards being the guy that he wants to be. And I'll even go a step further. Him watching Jet struggle a bit and Hunter crash, I think even makes it more likely. Listen, these guys say what you want. You don't have to like Brian Deegan. You don't have to like Hayden Deegan. They're tacticians when it comes to decision making. They truly are. They analyze every aspect of a decision before they do it. I think watching those guys struggle a little bit gives them a little bit of confidence to go race Anaheim. If Jett was just on fire, winning everything, like, nobody can touch him, I think they'd be like, let's not walk into that ambush, you know, and maybe it's an ambush anyway. But I think it just. It just pushes the narrative a little bit further. Like, hey, he's not, like, he's not that great right now. Like, maybe this is our opportunity to get into his head early. Right there is that. I think that is a conversation that is being had. So that just lends a little bit more to how does Jet ride in Australia and how does Deegan ride in Australia at separate rounds? So that's it for this week. Again, thank you to the sponsors, Guts Racing Works Connection, TLSpeed Shop and Race Rentals.com unmatched supplements. Thank you for keeping me so Healthy Firepower Works Connection, Grantstone Boots. Thank you to everybody for being a part of this thing. And yeah, we will talk to you next time. See you.