Innovation spans many areas, and compliance professionals need not only to be ready for it but also to embrace it. Join Tom Fox, the Voice of Compliance, as he visits with top innovative minds, thinkers, and creators in the award-winning Innovation in Compliance podcast. In this episode, host Tom visits with GRC expert and OCEG co-founder Carole Switzer.

They highlight her new books, “Mastering GRC: The Lawyer’s Guide to Success in Governance, Risk and Compliance” and “The AI-Enabled Law Firm” (co-authored with Lee Denner). Carole explains she wrote “Mastering GRC” to help lawyers applying legal skills in GRC roles move from reactive problem-solvers to proactive enterprise leaders by embedding in business objectives, asking better questions, and collaborating across audit, risk, legal, and compliance. She recounts OCEG’s origins and its GRC Capability Model, certifications, and global growth. Carole discusses balancing legal oversight with business partnership, including the risks of privilege when acting in business roles. Looking ahead, she predicts rapid AI-driven change in legal practice, stressing technology and data-meaning (“semantic layer”) issues, and the need to adapt existing GRC frameworks for speed and volatility.

Key highlights:

Why These Two Books
From Counselor to Leader
Integrated Governance Mindset
How OCEG Built GRC Standards
Oversight vs Business Partner
Future of Legal GRC and AI
Managing Volatility With Frameworks

Resources:

Carole Switzer on LinkedIn

OCEG

The AI-Enabled Law Firm

Mastering GRC: The Lawyer’s Guide to Success in Governance, Risk and Compliance

Innovation in Compliance, a multi-award-winning podcast, was recently honored as the Number 4 podcast in Risk Management by 1,000,000 Podcasts.