Have you ever turned down an opportunity because you thought it was too risky? What would you do if you got a second chance?

On today’s episode, we talk with Jim Murphy, who has had an over two decade career at Pixar - even though he originally turned them down.

That’s right. As a budding animator, he was offered the chance to work for Pixar, but it was only a 6 month contract with no guarantees. He decided that was too risky and so he said no…... and then something incredible happened: Toy Story.

Jim spent the next week watching the movie every day and realizing he needed to work at Pixar. Eventually, he got a second chance and has been involved in Pixar's tremendous success ever since: working on films such as The Incredibles, Monsters Inc, Ratatouille, and then even directing his own hit short film Lava.

But this episode isn’t about filmmaking: it’s a lesson in creativity, culture, and making the most out of the opportunities that present themselves:

As Jim described the early days at Pixar:

“The art form was new, we were just a ragtag bunch of artists from all different mediums. And we all had something to prove. That’s the lightning in the bottle — nobody really believes you can do it and you have this surprise for the world”

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