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Inside EMS
Hosted by EMS1 Podcasts · EN
Keeping you on the pulse of what’s happening inside the EMS community. Catch up with Chris Cebollero and Kelly Grayson weekly as they discuss EMS life through good-natured banter and expert perspectives. Their vehicle for delivering the news and know how is that of two medics sitting on the truck between calls. Their mission is to make all listeners, EMS insiders.
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‘Culture eats strategy’: Rebuilding an EMS system from the ground up
4w ago00:29:06Tap to summarizeIn this episode of the Inside EMS podcast, host Chris Cebollero shares why he left the consulting and community paramedicine world to become chief of EMS and COO for EMS Team in Dayton, Ohio — a growing multi-state agency with “visions of world dominance.” The conversation digs deep into servant leadership, workforce buy-in and the balance between supporting crews while still holding the line on professionalism and performance. Chris also lays out his vision for creating a sustainable culture built on accountability, engagement and shared ownership. It’s equal parts leadership seminar, war story and reality check for anyone who’s ever tried to fix a fractured EMS system. Additional resources: How to lead without being that boss Leadership lessons: How to turn failure into growth Enjoying Inside EMS? Email theshow@ems1.com to share feedback.
Transcribe →Reality check: How close does TV get to real EMS?
Apr 2400:32:48Tap to summarizeThis week on Inside EMS, it’s a no-holds-barred breakdown of HBO’s The Pitt — and surprisingly, it earns a solid thumbs up from the field. The show nails the feel of emergency medicine: nonstop chaos, overlapping patients and that mental grind that never lets up. The set, the medicine and the team dynamics all hit close enough to make even seasoned providers nod along. But let’s not pretend it’s perfect. The guys call out the usual TV sins — compressed timelines, back-to-back disasters and docs who never miss on the first try. But, there is a botched 12-lead that sparks a real-world debate about electrode placement, patient modesty and doing the job right when it matters most. Where The Pitt really shines? The emotional weight. Burnout, breaking points and the slow unraveling that comes with the job — it’s all there, and it hits hard. Have you watched the show? What are your thoughts? Let us know in the comment field below. Quotable takeaways “At some point you're so saturated by fear and emotion and being strong through somebody else's grief and trying to be on 24/7, you can't afford a bad moment.” “I think they do a great job of displaying the emotional toll that a career in medicine takes on the people who practice it.” Enjoying Inside EMS? Email theshow@ems1.com to share feedback.
Transcribe →When the job follows you home
Apr 1700:37:35Tap to summarizeEditor’s Note: Suicide is always preventable. If you are having thoughts of suicide or feeling suicidal, please call the National Suicide Prevention Hotline immediately at 988. Remember: You deserve to be supported, and it is never too late to seek help. Speak with someone today. ----more---- This week on Inside EMS, host Kelly Grayson is joined by Texas educator John Puryear as they process the loss of a colleague to suicide — and to confront the uncomfortable truth: the mental health crisis in EMS is years in the making, and awareness alone isn’t cutting it. From peer support to fatigue policies, Chris and Jon lay out what actually helps: real conversations in the rig, leadership that prioritizes mental health and seeking professional help. The message is clear: taking care of your mind is operational readiness. And if you’re not checking on your partner, you’re missing the fight that matters most. Quotable takeaways “I don't think the public understands how much this profession can break you.” “It’s not about what’s wrong with you, it’s what’s happened to you.” “Help is a professional strength, not a weakness.” Additional resources: What’s your department’s suicide prevention plan? How to recognize, help a struggling team member Mental wellness check-ins: What they are and how they help Enjoying Inside EMS? Email theshow@ems1.com to share feedback.
Transcribe →Online EMS education: More than just recorded lectures
Apr 1000:39:57Tap to summarizeThis week on the Inside EMS podcast, host Kelly Grayson tags in Texas educator John Puryear for a deep dive into the ever-evolving world of EMS education. What starts with a little sweet tea and Southern storytelling quickly turns into a masterclass on how to actually make distance learning work. Puryear breaks down the difference between synchronous and asynchronous learning, and why simply dumping recorded lectures on students isn’t enough. The real magic? Engagement. Whether it’s live interaction, strategic questioning or just being a “bit of an entertainer,” effective online education demands more than a webcam and a PowerPoint. Bottom line: online education isn’t going anywhere. But if you’re going to do it, you better do it right. The future isn’t just virtual — it’s hybrid, interactive and built by educators who actually care. Enjoying Inside EMS? Email theshow@ems1.com to share feedback.
Transcribe →Inside EMS co-host debate: Street time or straight to medic?
Mar 2700:28:00Tap to summarizeThings get intense on this episode of Inside EMS as hosts Chris Cebollero and Kelly Grayson tackle an age-old industry debate: should EMTs spend time on a truck before going to paramedic school or is that “experience” overrated? Kelly kicks things off with a spicy take, arguing that poor field training and inconsistent preceptorship often do more harm than good. From his perspective, bad habits, weak mentorship and burnout culture are the norm, not the exception. But Chris isn’t buying it. He counters that experience builds what classrooms can’t: clinical judgment, scene management and the ability to function in chaos. For him, skipping that step means stacking advanced skills on a shaky foundation. What follows is a back-and-forth that hits on everything from “microwave medics” and outdated curricula to high-fidelity simulation and whether modern education can truly replicate the street. Both sides agree the system is flawed — but disagree on where to fix it. Enjoying the show? Email editor@ems1.com to share feedback.
Transcribe →Stop guessing your blood gases
Mar 2000:30:01Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Inside EMS, cohosts Chris Cebollero and Kelly Grayson are once again joined by paramedic student April McKenzie, a.k.a., “April Anonymous,” for a deep dive on measuring arterial blood gas. Chris and Kelly walk April (and anyone else grinding through class) through the core idea that everything hinges on knowing “normal.” Once you lock in pH, CO₂ and bicarb ranges, the rest becomes pattern recognition, not panic. The big takeaway? Master normal, stay curious and treat every patient like a learning opportunity. Because the more normals you encounter, the faster you’ll catch what’s not. Quotable takeaways “Our whole job in a nutshell is maintaining homeostasis and knowing when the body is going to restore homeostasis.” “Voltaire said that the art of medicine is entertaining the patient until nature cures the disease. But, we know that nature doesn't always cure the disease. We have to know when to step in, when nature's not gonna do it.” Email theshow@ems1.com to share feedback.
Transcribe →How everyday actions shape EMS culture
Mar 1300:28:50Tap to summarizeThis week on Inside EMS, hosts Chris Cebollero and Kelly Grayson take a practical look at how leadership — both formal and informal — shapes the culture of an EMS organization. The hosts break down three things crews notice immediately: consistency, presence and composure. They emphasize that good leadership isn’t about controlling people or enforcing policies — it’s about developing crews, communicating clearly and earning trust over time. This episode breaks down how leadership credibility is built slowly through consistent behavior — and it only takes one misstep to damage it. Quotable takeaways “The culture of an EMS organization is shaped far more by leadership behavior than by policy manuals.” “You don't build strong organizations by controlling people. You build them by developing people.” “Leadership starts the moment people are watching.” Email theshow@ems1.com to share feedback.
Transcribe →Stop leading EMS like it’s a bar fight
Mar 600:30:41Tap to summarize“The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War This week on Inside EMS, host Chris Cebollero brings a fresh interpretation to Sun Tzu’s ancient text with his latest book, “The Art of War for Business Leaders: Winning Without Fighting in Leadership, Strategy, and Life.” Chris makes the case that EMS leadership is more about clarity and discipline than chest-thumping command presence, tying Tzu’s principles back to everyday EMS realities. The discussion digs into why leaders so often fight the wrong battles, from staffing drama and culture clashes, to policy headaches and ego wars, and how better planning can keep those problems from blowing up in the first place The conversation dissects what accountability without chaos means in practice: building culture, reducing friction and leading in a way that gives crews the tools, support and ownership they need to succeed. Quotable takeaways “Most leaders don't fail because they're bad people. They fail because they fight battles that they never really need to fight.” “Never allow your emotions to dictate your actions. I was a powder keg that would explode when things didn't go right. [“The Art of War”] taught me to be less reactive.” “Discipline creates freedom.” Email theshow@ems1.com to share feedback.
Transcribe →Beyond check-the-box: Making National Registry prep actually stick
Feb 2800:33:59Tap to summarizeThis episode of Inside EMS is brought to you by ZOLL software and data solutions. Optimize EMS performance and outcomes at every stage of operations with interoperable solutions from dispatch, to patient care, QA/QI, billing and beyond. Visit zolldata.com to learn about the complete solution suite. This week on the Inside EMS podcast, Jon Puryear, NREMT-P, is back and if you’ve ever sweated a National Registry deadline, this one hits home. Amid the ever-looming March 31 cutoff, Puryear breaks down what’s changed in continuing education — and what hasn’t. Known for his ability to simplify complex topics, Puryear has built National Registry refresher courses, explainers and CE programs designed not just to check a box, but to truly reinforce clinical understanding. His teaching style leans heavily on storytelling and practical analogies — think pulmonary edema explained through a waterlogged sponge — so providers walk away actually understanding the information, not just memorizing it. If you need hours, motivation — or just someone to explain it like a human — this episode is your reset. Top quotes “I don’t believe that we chose this profession. I believe that the profession chose us. We have a special calling inside of us to be able to take care of our fellow mankind.” “We don’t get rich. We don’t make a lot of money doing this. We’re truly public servants.” “Continuing education is still important to be able to keep our mind, our clinical care, our judgment, everything on top.” Email editor@ems1.com to share feedback.
Transcribe →Are you burned out — or done?
Feb 2000:31:31Tap to summarizeEditor’s Note: This episode of Inside EMS is brought to you by ZOLL software and data solutions. Optimize EMS performance and outcomes at every stage of operations with interoperable solutions from dispatch, to patient care, QA/QI, billing and beyond. Visit zolldata.com to learn about the complete solution suite. This episode of Inside EMS tackles a difficult question: When is it time to step away from the job? Hosts Chris Cebollero and Kelly Grayson trade hard-earned wisdom — from Kelly’s knee-rehab comic relief to serious talk about emotional burnout, wellness needs and timing. The hosts also explore the psychology of identity — how being a paramedic or EMT isn’t just a job, it’s who you are. They unpack how to carry forward the best parts of that identity — calm under pressure, decisive action, compassion — into new roles if needed. This isn’t about quitting — it’s about owning your career before it owns you. Whether it’s fewer shifts, a new role, a new service or a new direction altogether, the message is clear: protect your identity, protect your professionalism and make moves that keep you sharp for the long haul. Quotable takeaways “Burnout is gradual. It's not explosive, but you've got to be able to realize the emotional flattening that is happening.” — Chris Cebollero “Our identity often becomes EMS. I tell people, to this day, ‘I'm a paramedic,’ and there's a lot that goes into that — and not just when you put the boots or the polo shirt on. It really becomes the core of who you are.” — Chris Cebollero “The vast majority of us don't leave after one bad call. We wake up one day and realize we've been surviving instead of serving, and that's when the burnout epiphany really hits us hard.” — Kelly Grayson Enjoying Inside EMS? Email theshow@ems1.com to share feedback or suggest guests for a future episode.
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