
Here's what to look for from Brandon Baker and Melvin Siani.
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Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yeah, he'll have very different responsibilities this year. Last year he had, he had a DJ Campbell inside of him. That was, that was to his left. That was helpful because Campbell was pretty experienced, a little harder to attack and pass protection. Not like an amazing past protecting guard, but he at least knew what he was doing. Yeah, it Would have been interesting. He would have thought that going into the season, the guess would have been teams are going to try to beat Baker off the edge with their best edge rusher and they didn't really do that. That didn't really materialize. I mean, teams did. It's not like he still had to face good defensive ends that would play on the edge a lot. And he held up pretty well, but it was just not the name of the game. It's definitely on third. Third down, like you were saying, is definitely not what teams were focused on. And go ahead. I don't know if he'll be attacked like the left guard was last year. I don't know if the left guard is maybe a little easier to attack than the right guard because Texas will tend to shift things to the right or if there will be a super weak link and if he will be the weak link if that's the case. What was your feel listening to him about his confidence level?
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
I think he, I mean, when you're a. Whatever position, you know, if you're a very highly rated tackle, you think, man, I'm a tackle. And then you play that position for a full year, you probably think that you're a tackle and you can do that at a high level. But I think he also, and this is something I wanted to try to bring onto the screen, like he says, you know what, I'm a football player, you know, like, I, I'm good with whatever. I like just being on the field. I like being able to say that I'm contributing and being able to say that I'm helping. And you know, he has. He's the only married player on the team. I think he said in that interview, which. Okay, yeah, they're all, we're not a he. Well, actually, I know he's Polynesian. I don't know if he's Mormon, so I was about to probably make a generalization. But, you know, that's, that's a level of maturity. He wants to play in the NFL. He went to a very, very competitive high school football program in modern day where you don't play tackle unless you're good enough to play tackle at a lot of different schools. And he was. But I think he's fine with it. I, I think. And I think, Sorry, Utah Horn. I think he understands what the coaches are telling him, what Steve Sarkeesian and what Kyle Flood are telling him. I don't think they would go on to what is a very, very friendly outlet for Texas Longhorns. It's I mean, they, they film it inside the Athletics hall of Honor. It's as close to in house as you get. I don't think he's going on there without, you know, understanding he's going to be asked about that. And he, he sounded very, very happy about it. And part of the reason he seemed happy about it was because there's going to be left tackle Trevor Goosby. That's a really good person to have on your offensive line. Your main questions at left guard, your center is a fifth year senior and we'll get to him in a minute, but your right tackle is someone who's very experienced. Like it, it feels like, whereas last year he could be hidden a little bit because of the problems at left tackle, net center. This year it's like, okay, you know, if you want to try this guy one on one, you want to try me one on one or you want to try to attack me like I'm going to have some help. It felt like he understood what the assignment is going to be. What do you think of this comment from Ryan? The expectations are going to be all sec at least for Melvin. Let's, let's get to the Baker part first. Baker to be a very good pass blocker but get overpowered by more powerful defensive tackles. He talked about that a little bit. He said, you know, when I'm dealing with Colin or Lance, I mean, I'm dealing with some freak athletes who are moving quicker at guard, things are happening actually faster because these guys are right in front of me. Do you think he's going to have some problems with some of those defensive tackles?
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Probably, yes and no. I think in pass protection he's probably going to be okay. I don't think he's gonna get walked back into the quarterback regularly. I think that'd be like some people's fear if he has, if he had a strong enough base for that not to happen at tackle. I know the guys inside are bigger, but they also have usually less speed and sometimes less power than a guy like Colin Simmons and less space to work in. So, and to generate power in. So I, my guess is he'll be okay there on the reverse that I, I do wonder if he'll get a lot of push.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Yeah, he's listed at 305 right now, and I think he played last year at about 3:15, so. And, and I don't know if this is meant. I, I think he was above that last year and I don't know if this is meant to inspire confidence or what. What it may mean. But Cole Hudson played his whole career right at about 310 or 315. It could be good, it could be bad, depending on what you're. You're looking for. But it's not like Texas is just like, okay, you have to be 325 to play guard. Like they will play different looking guys on the interior especially. And, and then, you know, I don't think they make this move without thinking that he could do it. And I know that's hard to say considering Kyle Flood kind of botched the last year evaluation of the offensive line. But at the same time, Kyle Flood has some good experiences moving guys inside and out. At least from Alabama. That was Alabama talent. But what was it? Not Illuminor. He went to A M. There are a few guys that he's made really, really good progress with flipping in between interior and exterior, at least when it comes to offensive line.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yeah, I will say sometimes the weight doesn't necessarily matter as much for pushing the run game. Like I was riding the other day on the America's war game that Notre Dame usually plays a little lighter. Their guys are usually like closer to 300. Indiana too. And then stylistically they try to fire out.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Speaking of firing out and hit people.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
So what, what helps with the weight is leaning on guys like absorbing contact, not giving up ground, and then kind of leaning on guys when they start going one way or the other.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
And one thing is those lighter guys, like, there is some value to it, I think, because what E.J. campbell was really good at for being 325, 330 pounds is he could move. And that's someone that you liked pulling and moving around. And Hayden Connor was the same way. Like he, he had some tackle ability. Like they like being able to move guys. And so maybe that's why instead of like just firing him up to like 323, 30 just for being that big, just for the sake of being that big. They do like having the ability to pull guards, get them on the move, fire off some gap schemes and have some other stuff going on. And I, I like this too. And this, you know, Ryan Nelson, you brought up Leatherwood, he went from inside to outside. And I think there were like, was maybe I forget the order. Maybe Leatherwood got drafted and then Evan Neal moved outside. Or maybe Evan Neal got drafted and then Leatherwood moved outside. Something like that happened. And those guys are two, you know, top 10 picks. But I do like this think turn time's a great example of that. Like we watched turn time and his evaluation was always tackle, tackle, tackle. And I think he got some snaps at guard this spring. And hey, people freaked out over his weight. He's probably not, you know, going to be 3:30 on the next time the roster is listed. But that doesn't mean that they're less confident in his ability to maybe play inside and develop there, at least for this season.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Turn is the most powerful lineman in the whole roster,
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
more than Goosby.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
In terms of how it looks when he blocks people. It looks different than how it looks when everyone else blocks someone. I. That was what made him my favorite of the main guys in high school. Well, was he in the same class as Ojo?
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Yes.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
There was like a trio, right. It was like Ojo and Turntine and another guy whose name I don't recall.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
I don't recall either. It was Ojo and Turntine.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Turntine for sure.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
If Homer's watching. We. We basically all our recruiting thumbnails were those two. And it became a running joke that we just kept using those that I
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
did like the big crimping that went to a. M. Also.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Yeah.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
But turn time, what I liked about him most is that when he hit guys, there would be like a shock. And I looked for it in this. Yes, you can see Snips Blake. Brian says you see Snicks snap back when that dude latches onto somebody. I saw that in the spring game too. When he got in. I think he got in at tackle, so he would have been hitting a smaller target than inside. But yeah, you just. That same snapback was still there. The same force of impact. He's generating power like right on the first step. So he will need weight for. So he doesn't get pushed backwards and pass protection. But in terms of again, it. It's not. He's not. Doesn't really need it for run blocking. We were watching like a world's strongest man a little bit with my boys the other night who had never seen it before. And there was one guy that was like way leaner than the other guys. And my kids were like, well, that guy's not gonna do anything. And then he's like what he did dominated in this deal where you have to like shoulder press 200 pounds and then. And then double press, like this enormous, like cartoonish looking weight set. The. The strength. Yeah. The size is deceiving in the O line and what it means and what it doesn't mean. Where were we on before that?
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Brandon Baker.
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Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
what maybe plays hard too. He's. I don't think he has quite as much power as turn time, but last year he did. He did play hard in the run game and he would keep his feet moving, which would give him a chance to get movement at times.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
And one thing about Baker that I think was important last year and that we talk about this year is that whole line last year was inexperienced. You know, this was first time, this was Trevor Goosby's first time as a starter, you know, full fledged going into the year. He didn't have that luxury when Cam Williams and Kelvin Banks were going through injuries at the end of the 2024 season. Left guard. You know, you go from Connor Strode to Nick Brooks to like oh wait, maybe we do need Cole Hudson. It was Connor Robertson's first extended action. If I yeah, you go. Next up is, you know, right guard. He had D.J. campbell and then Brandon Baker's there in his second year and he entered the season with like 85 offensive snaps or something like that. Just really not that much. Got into the mix on field goal but not really doing anything at all on offense and he goes and plays right tackle and much better in the, you know, take PFF grades for what they Are it played out that way that he was a better pass blocker than run blocker? I don't think he gave up. I don't think he was charged with any sacks last year. But you know, he, yeah, you can have these questions about him as a run blocker but you can also think of the idea that he's just now entering his third year and he's, you know, going into, you know, being a 21 year old or you know, maybe 22 year old and finally not being 18, you know, and we've heard good things about Andre Kojo as well, that he's not 17 anymore and, and yeah, he's coming off a knee injury. But like being older on the offensive line and now for Texas, being older and a little bit more experienced doesn't mean that they're automatically going to be great, but it bodes a lot better for them than it did especially going into last year where, okay, you're starting and I, I was guilty of it. I said you're in as good a situation as you can ask for with Arch Manning because all the guys that you're bringing up are multi year veterans or highly ranked guys like Baker or veterans in the program. They didn't have the snap count, they didn't have the battle scars, they didn't have, you know, the war wounds. And now a lot of those guys do and Brandon Baker's included. That has me a little bit more excited for this offensive line and I think somebody else said it. I'll bring this comment back up. The offensive line is even SEC average. The offense is going to be worlds better than last year. You get SEC average with this offensive line with these backs, like the five yard gains that they could never turn into 30 yard gains may turn into those 30 yard gains that they missed a lot last year.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yep.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
And I wrote the other day, like the explosive plays, 50 yard plays are unicorns a little bit because you can only have a 50 yard play from half the field.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yeah.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
But under Sark they would usually be pretty well balanced like run plays and pass plays producing those 50 yard plays. They were all pass plays last year maybe except for like two. So like I think if you're able to get some more good, just good offensive line play with these backs, like you're going to see those field flipping plays and instead of, like I said, I called it. As opposed to creating explosives, you're finding explosives in the run game and there were just no run game explosives to be found over the past couple or over the past season.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Another kind of explosive play that'll come back the play action shot. Remember how like going into last year it was like Arch Manning is one of the best play action bombers in the country. One of the best that Steve Sarkeesian has ever had. This is gonna be wild. Like hang on to your butts, here comes shots galore. And they had to give up on him in like most of the games because the protection was so atrocious. The receivers weren't super open either, but they would have hit a lot more if they could have blocked worth a lick in in play action protection. And they were so bad at it that they couldn't even throw deep. So there's like this, like this whole level of the offense and layer to Manning's game that we've kind of forgotten about that's about to come back with a vengeance. If they can just be average and protecting, like remember in 2021 they would take a lot of shots and that line was not very good. But they had bean they would, they Sark would still find ways between Bijon and a sixth lineman or whatever to, to set up some shots for Casey Thompson. And they started hitting him until his thumb gave out. It was a, it was a problem for a minute we were like, this dude can't throw deep. What are we doing? Why are we playing hard card? Then he like exploded against Oklahoma and hit a whole bunch of shots in that game. I really nearly beat Oklahoma with that. And then it was a little more iffy after that because the thumb. But Sark just needs a little bit more than he had last year to be able to finally set up Arch to do what we expected last year.
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Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Ian, I think for a video that's coming out on Saturday, you got to talk to Landon Tengwall and hear from him about the Texas offensive line. I think He's a decently recent high school recruiting prospect. I think he played a little bit at Notre Dame. He found a post on or he put a post on Twitter yesterday about Melvin Ciani. And I think when we see the social media posts from like PFF College about like, you know, played acc, went through an ACC schedule without giving up a pressure or sack allowed or something like that, you get excited for what he's able to do in the pass blocking game and justifiably so. Evan went and found that there's some really good run blocking reps for Wake Forest for Siani, for Wake Forest, a team that went nine and four that nobody expected to go nine and four in that first year. Hey, keep hiring head coaches from Washington State. And he found a success rate where if they ran towards Siani's side of the ball, 7.3 yards per carry when they ran and Siani played left tackle for Wake Forest and Temple too when they ran away from Siani when they ran right only 4.2 yards per carry. So a lot of the excitement about Melvin Siani, at least as a pass blocker, there's justifiable reason to be excited for him as a run blocker too.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yeah, very promising set of statistics Tango. I believe he played at Penn State up until recently. And everyone tune in Saturday to hear me and Connor talk to him about his video breaking down the Texas line. I noticed for sure watching Siani in the transfer portal season that he's definitely strong and he moves his. His movement translates in the run game. His ability to. His agility translates very cleanly. He actually reminded me a little bit of Baker. It's kind of like a little bit bigger. Baker maybe stronger too because he's bigger and heavier. Even though I said that that shouldn't matter. This, you know, he can lean on guys a little more. They are a very. They make sense as a pairing because of how quick they are and I really hope that they are able because they've been able to work together for the whole of spring and then the offseason. Unlike on the left side where you know they're Seymour came in in summer. We don't even know for sure what they're going to do there if. If Siani and Baker can be really awesome at trades in outside zone and they can run like ball behind those two guys and their ability to do that that feels like that could be like the. The big right hand of the run game.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
The. And then when you. I'm thinking just kind of in the playbook like Just think about outside zone to the right. You wrote running right. That is a much easier setup for RPOs too. Like okay, you pull from the mesh point, the running back goes by you and then you can throw behind them. So if they're able to do that and still justifiably have a very, very good duo on the left side with Trevor Goose being guard to be named later, that's, that's a positive thing there as well. It's a little bit tougher to do some of the RPOs that way just because you know it, it you're. You're moving away in a certain way. But that, that's a exciting thing to think about. It's just that level of RPO is going to be maybe even more apparent available to Texas and it. Maybe it was last year. Some good comments. I think this otdo could be as good as 2023. That was Kelvin Banks and Christian Jones. I I think there's a very justifiable argument that Kelvin Banks is at least on the Mount Rushmore of Texas offensive lineman and could potentially have a claim to be the best ever. So that's a high bar right there. Christian Jones obviously it took. It took him six seasons to get to being where he was and man he, I think he'll tell you he needed that luxury because and the COVID year that he had available to him was a huge boost because it gave him time to develop that the NFL wasn't going to give him if he had gone after his fifth year. So you got what Jones was a fifth or sixth round pick and then Banks in 2023 as a sophomore, you know All American eventually became the first round pick. I don't know because of how highly I think of Banks. I think it's going to be very, very tough for Goosebie and Siani to or I think it's Sanai. I've heard Sark say it that way to approach that level of play.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Sinai maybe look that up in the pronunciation guide. You know honestly I, I think it could probably be close. I think 24 gets a bad rap. Cameron Williams in 24 was really good and I think he would. I think that 20, I think that 24 group may have been the best actually but no one will ever remember it that way because Williams got injured and beat and then he got destroyed two plays in a row by Ewers old Ohio State roommate. Who's that dude's name?
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Jack Sawyer.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Jack Sawyer twice in a row to lose the game. So there's the baby.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Hey hey, do you think Melvin Sinai is going to do really well this year? Yeah, she's a pat. She's a past game enthusiast. She. She just watches the skill positions. So what do you say? What do you think? Can you say hook them?
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Oh, wow. Oh, my gosh. There we go. I think he's really hard to get up.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Yeah, we'll get there. All right. Go see mama. Good star of the show. No, you could take it away.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yeah. 24. I think 24 may have been the best, except for the injury. Yeah, that 2014 and the 24 team had some of those losses to Georgia that were. Everybody sticks out in everybody's mind. But yeah, David says Cameron Williams is never an athletic right tackle. Routinely gave up sacks and pressures from strong side defensive ends in the one single year he started at Texas. That's not really how I remember it. I remember him being an amazing reach blocker on outside zone and like, crushing people all the time. He did get beat against Georgia by Damon Wilson and maybe somebody else beat him.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
But he also, like, it was very weird for Cam Williams because, like you mentioned about the reach blocking thing, like, he was pretty good in protection, but it's like, why isn't this six seven, 360 pounder, like, moving guys off the ball? It was. It was a very weird part of the evaluation. And, and, you know, I think that's why he ended up dropping into the sixth round. And I think if he had a chance to do it again. Yeah, I. I think, you know, I'm normally very much like, go. If you want to go, go. Like, you. You start your professional career, you're. You're gonna be that way. But now with Nil, like, he could have probably made more money, and I try not to let it be, like, strictly financial. He probably could have made more money at Texas or in college football for another year instead of leaving that sour taste. But he wanted to go. And, you know, I think now he's on the Eagles when it. When it comes to Sinai. You know, when you watched him, I think Sark has said, especially when talking about Sterling Burkhalter, that the Wake Forest offense has a lot of overlap with what Texas does, which is kind of weird because you think of Washington State and just like, let's run gimmicks and hope for the best, considering we're in Pullman does. I mean, it feels like he's gonna. That was the right call to go after him instead of that little brief Jordan Seaton dalliance in Texas. May have gotten a equally as Good player for a little bit better price tag, who is a better fit in the system as a result.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yeah, I, I definitely think they came out ahead in that exchange. Not because I think he's better than Seaton, although it's. I think it's a. Actually possible he could be right. But they could get him for two years maybe.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Hopefully they can move them back to left tackle as well.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
You can move him to left tackle next year is needed, which they might have to do. Well, they'll have ish. Probably be best if they got him back and put him on left tackle and then the price tag. I tried to look this up the other day. Do we know how much Seaton got?
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
No, I do remember that when I, I read from the Wake Forest Rivals site that I believe Texas had to buy out his Rev share deal with the Demon Deacons. And you know, that's. That's just the way business goes. That's what Duke sued Miami about and made Miami pay Darian Mince's buyout. I don't know if it was like an exorbitant number. It didn't make me like think like, wow, that's a bargain or wow, that's expensive. It was like, okay, yeah, SEC starter makes sense. Seaton, I mean, he was the pride and joy of that Colorado team who wasn't a pseudo son or a son of Deion Sanders. That's why, that's why he went there and then he. I mean, he, he joined. He entered the portal to obviously test his market value. And LSU was more than willing to improve what was a pretty bad offensive line with. With a very, very good player in Jordan Seaton like that. I don't want it to be mistaken that we think Jordan Seaton's like, not that good. I think he is. And he was probably a bright spot on that Colorado team, but he's. He was kind of. Some of the knocks against Brandon Baker are similar to the ones against Jordan Seaton. Jordan seaton just is six six and 320. And Brandon Baker is. Well, it may not be that tall, but Brandon Breaker, 64305, like, good pass protector, lacking in the run game, was part of an offensive line that really lacked in the run game last year. But I think with Sinai and Baker, they've got a really good thing set up over there. Anything else on the offensive line that's on your mind?
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
I watched Seon when he was in the portal and I tried to pull up different games and he would. He's clearly very athletic, but it's I think he was only a sophomore last year.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Yes.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
It wasn't like he blew me away either. Like, they're. LSU is paying a lot of money for projection of a player, like what he'll be this year with a. And that's probably not unreasonable, but I watched him against Utah and that's the,
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
that's the hardest test he probably faced last year.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
He got shredded by this. I. I was like, he was getting shredded by this white dude from Utah.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
The three named white dude is at Michigan now.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yeah. And I was like, well, you know, that happens. It is Utah. They, they find these dudes and yeah. John Henry Daly, as it turns out, amazing. 17 and a half tackles for loss and 11 and a half sacks last year. Now he's at Michigan. So it wasn't a scrub, but he destroyed him. So
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
I'm, I, I think, you know, this is the time of year where there's so much looking forward to the season that everything's sunshine and roses. And I think, you know, I think for me it's like the week before the season where I'm like, oh, this is everything that could go wrong. So I haven't gotten to that phase yet, but now I'm in the, like, you know what? Okay, Brandon Baker, right guard, like, if he can improve in run blocking, like, he's going to be really good there. Melvin S. And in one last thing, I think on Sinai that I think speaks to. I. I don't know if it's what you believe on the portal or more so what you believe about portal quarterbacks. Temple, Wake Forest, Texas. Like, this is somebody who's produced, produce, produce. And yeah, you want to be able to get guys in through the high school ranks and develop them. But this is someone, you know, has handled very, very talented pass rushers and can do it with a. A level of success that you're looking for at the SEC level.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yeah, he's a, he's a pretty sure thing.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
I'm excited for that. Let's see, I'm trying to go through some other things and one other thing I think maybe about Seaton, that offense is going to help him too. Like. Oh yeah, it's. It is press button, go offense there. So I think he'll, he'll be helped with that. Instead of, you know, Pat Shermer trying to run progression passing with either a Liberty transfer and Kaden Salter a true freshman with juju Lewis. There we go. So many unimportant things occupy my brain, including the 2025 Colorado Buffalo quarterback starters I guess one thing to end on, on the offensive line before we talk UT versus UT a little bit penalties. How do you see that maybe being resolved a little bit this year? If it is resolved at all.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
You would hope that Arch and Connor Robertson both being back would help clean up some of that. There's different. I mean Texas is always get. They'll have like the normal penalties where it's like, shoot, I'm up against a real monster this week and I'm outmatched and I get jumpy because I don't want to get beat. You have those. Texas gets those just like anybody else when you're going up against like you know, Dylan Stewart or something. And then there's the procedural ones where they just screw up because they got so much going on with motion and whatnot. I'll probably have more than their share of those too just because they do so much. But I bet they can, I bet they can clean it up a lot relative to last year.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Motion's always going to be something that creates difficulties for this offense. It just how it is. Some guys are better at handling it than others, but it shouldn't be at the bottom three in the country or the wrong type of top three in terms of penalties per game and penalty yardage. So hey, and experience, like I said, you know, you're going back to that Trevor Goosby fourth year guy whether it's Lawrence Seymour or whether it's Dylan Sikorsky or whether it's Jaden Chapman or whether whoever it is, I don't think any of those guys are younger than red shirt sophomores Connor Robertson. Seen a lot. Brandon Baker. Seen a lot. Melvin said, I see a lot. Like you would. You were hoping that. And I know Paul, if he's listening to this, he's going to yell at me. Like just snaps is not a stat. It doesn't mean good things. But there is some, I think relevant data to be gleaned from like oh, you know, what it's like when Arch says on two, what it sounds like and, and what, you know, jet right duo on two. Okay. When you need to fire off on the ball and what who's going to be running behind you and stuff like that. So fingers crossed until we get to the, you know, portion of the year where it's all doom and gloom before kickoff and oh, they have 90 penalties in a 90 minute practice. We won't get there. I think it'll be better than that. All right, let's talk a little UT versus ut. That is where Texas Opens SEC play this year they get a little bit of a break because that game at Neyland, one of the places I don't think Texas has ever actually been to, they get an 11am kick. So that'll be a benefit there. Not going to get a hundred thousand people after tailgate in all day.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
It's probably noon, right?
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Say again?
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
It's probably noon, right? Aren't they east? They gotta be eastern.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
I think that part of Tennessee may be eastern. In fact, it definitely is. So still. Okay, cool. You got four hours to tailgate. But Tennessee is going through a lot of different changes on both sides of the ball. They lose their quarterback, they are bringing in a, they have a veteran in the program type guy. They also have a former five star, they have a new defensive coordinator, but they still have Josh Hypo calling plays and Josh Hypo offense. And it is going to look probably like some of those veer and shoot teams of old where you think oh, pass, pass, pass. No, it's going to be DeSean Bishop's team until it's not.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yeah, they have. What, what sparked this thought for me was I saw these Mike Guccar tweets the other week that are embedded in the article of Tennessee running different versions of duo and a lot of them with like quarterback run reads and I was like, boy, this really is formidable. They're good at this every year. If they just play the face on Brandon kid who can, who's like big and tall and can run some, what's to stop them from just like being like that Nico team that made the playoffs where Nico wasn't even really that good but they ran the ball so dang well that they made the playoffs. They got crushed there. But a team like that on the road and Texas is their first big game of the year. Paul's been noting. So that's actually definitely risky atmosphere to go into for Texas and, and I,
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
I think for as quick as Texas fans, sometimes justifiably so, sometimes unjustifiably we'll look at Georgia's defense when mush Champ's been there and try to like claim some of it just as they did when Sark was cooking Ohio State in the national title game, that type of thing. That's a system that's coming to Texas and granted they had Chris Brazil, they had a veteran quarterback and Joey Aguilar. Georgia had to outscore Tennessee to beat them last year.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yeah, that's true.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
And that, that's something that. Okay, if you're gonna claim all the good from the must champ experience and stuff like that. You have to be able to recognize like there are holes in this offense or in this defense that schemes like Tennessee's can take advantage of.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
So Oklahoma kind of wrote the book on defending Tennessee with the flyover and they gave Tennessee fits and Georgia tried to copy it last year they did not know what they were doing and they got wrecked. They were like all out of position. It was awful. Usually Georgia oh Muschamp actually was like a co coordinator Georgia Guard defended Tennessee really well. I was planning to set set that up with some art just write some articles about that coming up after I set it up with this one. But last year they yeah, last year they got wrecked and Tennessee has been evolving so they keep getting better and better at it. They seem like they were kind of stagnant for a minute and then last year they like last year they hit another gear good
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
the the quarter we could we can talk a little bit I guess about the pieces they're missing but we can start at quarterback. I I know it's kind of mean but it kind of registers with me. They. They like the big arm guys who like making single reads. Hinden Hooker was that Joe Milton was especially that as far as big arm Nico, I don't know if what's that line that what's it called Terry Bradshaw, you know can't spell cat. If you gave him the C and the T when it comes to reading defenses he really struggled and that team was still a playoff team because it's like okay one one guy is open. Let me throw it to the Jalen Hyatt or let me just hand it off to this good run game Joey Aguilar and remember they were trying to get Sam Levitt in the transfer portal. So I am thinking and I remember some people were talking during the off season like does Tennessee really want Joey Aguilar back? Yeah, probably not. But I think it also showed there weren't fully fully enthused by what they had still with them for them to go and try to get Sam Levitt.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yeah I thought Aguilar Aguilar kind of the outlier here on the run game he was not as good of a runner although they still used him some obviously somewhat effectively. He did. He did lead guys down the field on deep balls better than anyone had since hooked worker. So he had that going for him and then he was like one of the only dudes to lose his case for more eligibility. I don't remember what the I don't remember what his argument was, he tried
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
to do the pavia thing, but I think he played, like, five years of college ball anyway. So he's like, no, my JUCO years don't count. But you played, like, five years in college or something like that. It was it, like, even with the JUCO permissiveness. Something like that. He was out of eligibility.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yep.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
I wasn't even sure if Tennessee really wanted him back.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yeah. Definitely not. If they could have got Levit. Right. But without Levitt, sounds like I. I watched a little of Faison's high school stuff. I was looking to see if he could run. He really is perfect for them. He's exactly that guy you just described, where it's like, he's. Well, he's six foot. I didn't list it on the table. I think he's six. Six, right?
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Yeah. You have him at six four, 225. And George McIntyre, six, 208.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
He's every bit of six foot, four. He can launch it. His high school offense, he was throwing on RPOs and down the field all the time. And then he's quick, and he's heavy, too. They. They like, getting big, heavy guys that can hold up doing this in the sec. Just smart.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
And as far as, like, losing receivers. Yeah, yeah. He was one of the most highly rated guys in his class as far as losing receivers go. Like, I don't know if Jalen Hyatt's walking through that door or Chris Brazell, but you know what? If you're fast and you want to run deep choice, you can get 800 yards with a blink of an eye. And Ryan Nelson notes that they do have some receivers coming back, too.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yeah, they're. They're pretty good.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
But desean Bishop is back, and that's the big thing.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yeah. Anyway, it makes sense for them to just push their chips in with Faison if they feel like he's close enough to ready. Chris, I do have a sore throat. Yes. Cold Covid 21, maybe
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
original flavor.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Are we gonna fire up these?
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Let me give it a try. Watch on X. Only got one screen to work with right now, but I can do it. Okay. Oh, it's a video, too. Thank you. All right, so you said this is duo. Oh, hold on. Let me share this tab instead. That's the issue.
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Tyler Adams (U.S. Soccer Player)
all right.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
It said there this. Yeah. Kushar is calling it duo. They're pulling a tackle and reading the backside end. They do this a lot. And the thing is, it's like, look, we got double team, double team. It's.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
It's. I know it's duo, but I know the jokes. Like is it. Is it zone or duo? It looks like split zone with the tackle being the splitter instead of the tight end.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
That's exactly what it is.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Yeah.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yeah.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Which is. Oh, that's pretty cool.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
They've been doing this for a while. It's pretty. It's pretty darn good. You know, Kansas State used to do this actually too, back with Snyder. I swear this was like a big thing for them.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Just changing the. The looks of in. In. Kutcher. I found another clip. It's. It's another tackle pull duo. If I can get it to fire up just another clip of in.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
In.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
You can see the defensive front that. Is this utsa? Yeah, this must be. Is this from when Pete Golding was there? Defensive coordinator because in that hooker.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Oh, I don't know.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
But there you. Some of those run reads you were talking about that they have available. That's not hooker. I don't think.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Okay, it's. Could be somebody fast. Is it Nico?
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
No, Nico is not that fast. Actually, you know what it is? Nico, he was number seven is when
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
he could get out with those long strides, he could really. You could get. He could chew up some. Some yards.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
So that would not have been. But this is this def. This literal defensive front right here. This is stuff that Texas is going to use and in the stems like that stuff you'll see from Texas this season.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yeah, it's. Regardless of your front, it gets tricky because the nature of duo is you get double teams where you're trying to. Where you're trying to run the ball so that immediately is. Is tough and then. Then they have all these versions like this where they're adding a lead blocker too or like at least a sliding blocker. And that also makes a big. That's. That's also difficult because basically you're asking the defensive line and the linebackers to do their least favorite things. The defensive line has to take on double teams and the linebackers have to track pullers and take on lead blocks. And everybody's. Everybody's unhappy.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
And that's. I think that's not the strength of Rashim Biles and Ty Anthony Smith either.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Not at all. They are small. They want to be covered up. They don't want to be taken on lead blockers in their laps all the time.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
This is why. This is why. What was it, 2016, Baylor versus North Carolina? Like the Tar Heels just quit because it was. We're. We're. Jim Grow is going out with a 400 yard running game.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
You know, that was Brow still.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
No, it was. It was Grove had taken. It was 2016.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
It was 2015.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
You're right. It was Briles. Oh, yeah. Yes. We drew the offense in the dirt. Offense.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They. Yes, they shredded them. They had no idea what to do. They looked like they hadn't really prepared and then they were in trouble. And then they're like, well, oh, well.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
So you. You close this with. This is the sort of game Will Muschamp was hired to win. What are some of the things you see Texas potentially doing that won't make it so Arch and company just have to outscore the balls.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
So just to remember, remember also this is done from like spread sets and a lot of times those receivers are way out wide. So you have like spacing issues, run past conflict. Because a lot of These plays have RPOs or play action attached to them. Like you watched Tennessee last year, it was like every third play they'd fire up like a duo power looking thing and then it would be play action and then Aguilar would be throwing deep. And so you put everybody in a lot of binds in the back end and then you're double teaming the line, which they don't like. So it's a. It's really a bear to deal with. The two best ways I've seen to deal with it are the Oklahoma flyover way where they would play everyone backing off, spill everything, and then Tennessee would run outside into what looked like wide open space. But then the deep safeties or the nickels would be there in like an instant and it went from looking like panacea to being just nothing. So they could do that, but then that would be totally out of their normal defensive style and flow. And so there's a big risk. Like George, like I said, Georgia tried to do it too. And then Georgia, instead of guys coming from nowhere to make the tackle, guys got lost and it got blown apart. The other thing you can do is play man coverage and get your extra guy in the box, drop Jelani down or whatever and try to avoid guys getting over taxed in space. I've. That's what I figured most champ would do.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
I mean, he'll. He'll do that until it doesn't work, you know, like, oh, guy got beat again. Oh, guy got beat again. All right, time to bring a safety back. So this is why you get Ian Gifard. And it's. And that's also why the tempo, which I don't think we've talked a ton about. Yeah, like, that is gonna make life tough. Like, yeah, you want that big guy there in the middle. It's hard to move 370 pounds snap after snap at like, you know, three steps in a minute.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
It's hard for both sides.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Right.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
But it's hard for them to push him around and then eventually it's hard for him to move himself in the way.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Oh, boy. But that's going to be a very, very intriguing game. Who does Tennessee have before they get to the Texas game?
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
It's a lot of nothing, I think.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Yeah, they don't really. Oh, boy. Okay.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Read their schedule before then.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Okay. Before the SEC opener. Furman.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yeah. Okay.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Do you know what Furman's mascot is?
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Planted Glove. I don't know.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
The Paladins.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
That's good.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
That's good at Georgia Tech, which they'll be able to handle with you would think. And then Kennesaw State. So they don't really face much of a murderer's row. We. This is one of those where you're
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
hoping that they get a bye week.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
No, their bye weeks, not till Halloween. And. And here's the other thing between Texas and the Alabama game, third Saturday of October, big rivalry. They play Auburn, they play Arkansas. Two first year coaches, two teams with one or one team with good talent, who knows how well to be deployed. One team with 2 and 10 watch written all over it. They'll be able to put a lot of stock into this Texas game. It's going to be tough. That's why the 11am was a nice little gift for the Longhorns or maybe the 12pm the noon kickoff. And that's one I know people at Texas are excited about because if I check out, I think the only time that Texas and Tennessee have ever played each other were in some Cotton bowls in the 50s and 60s. Like I'm pretty, I'm pretty sure despite, you know, both of those teams renaissances kind of falling during the same time period in, in The, I think 50s and 60s, they never matched up, you know, at more than those three time periods. Let me see if I can find it. Okay. They played once in the Cotton bowl in 1951, so the 1950 season. They played in the Cotton bowl again in 1953, so the 52 season. And then the Vols were victim to the introduction of the wishbone in 1968 in the 1969 Cotton Bowl. So that's it. They never met in Austin. They never met in Knoxville. Only in a couple Cotton Bowls when I don't know if that was Johnny Majors or General Nealon. I don't know who was coaching Tennessee at that time, but I know DKR was so gonna be a lot of fun. Just a cool environment, sailgating right on the River, 100,000 seat stadium, orange versus orange. Gonna be a lot of fun to, to check that one out. And I think, I think Tennessee has said that game may be when they do like the checkerboard around the stadium. So that's, that's going to be really cool too from a visual perspectives. Noon kickoff though. I wonder what that's going to be going up against on Fox. But it'll be a fun challenge both for Texas and Tennessee. And then I guess real quick if you got two minutes like going against Jim Knowles in that defense, does it being Year one and without them having some impact players make that a little bit easier task for Steve Sarkeesian and company.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Hopefully they brought in some Penn State guys that'll help. One of them didn't make it. One of them medically disqualified. Had some kind of. Yeah, I think he had some, like, mental health issues. They were saying he was struggling. I don't know. And. But I think it was like an edge, though. So not.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
Yeah, he was probably gonna end up being their best pass rusher. I think that's.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
That definitely hurts. But in terms of the adjusting to his system, an edge I don't think is a big deal. You want, like, your. They have veteran linebackers that'll probably pick it up. Well, one of them's from Penn State. Safeties is the other spot where you really want guys that know what he wants. I think they brought a safety from Penn State. It's. It's gonna be. It's hard to tell. He usually has a little bit of an adjustment period because he. He will change so much in his. What a team was doing before. But now I guess they get to warm up with Furman and Kennesaw State. So that can really make a big difference. Man, that really helps when you can because, like, if you play, like, really good teams early, you have to throw more difficult stuff out there. You have to ask more of your players. When you can, like, walk your players through more basic stuff and build, like, gradually, I think that's way better developmentally for learning, for pretty much anything. And so that's going to be ideal for them. That's. That's a concern.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
I'm excited. Going to start a great SEC run. Make sure you're with Inside Texas. Like, like the video. Subscribe to the channel and subscribe to Inside Texas. Join for just $1, then get 50 off your first year. That way you can get all the best from preseason camp, the season, postseason, transfer portal, recruiting, everything, football everything. Longhorns, come check it out. Also make sure you come check out another edition of the Live Deep Dive here in about an hour and a half. Correct. Ian, you and Paul answering some questions?
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yep. Got some more good ones at the end.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
So I listened to that on my drive and I'm like, this. This is peak. Ian and Paul, you know, talking about who the. The ALZ Timer Generals were. You know, that type of thing. That was. That was a fun one, Paul. And I think you're right. They. Until you start getting some projectiles involved, like, I don't know if anybody's Romans on the open field.
Ian Boyd (Inside Texas Analyst)
Yep.
Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
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Joe Cook (Inside Texas Host)
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Air Date: July 16, 2026
Host: Joe Cook (Inside Texas)
Analyst: Ian Boyd (Inside Texas)
This summary focuses exclusively on football content. Ads, sponsorships, and non-content chatter are omitted.
This episode dives deep into the evolving expectations and outlook for the Texas Longhorns’ right guard (RG) and right tackle (RT) positions heading into the new season. Joe Cook and Ian Boyd break down personnel changes, emerging talent, both positions’ challenges, and how Texas’s offensive line stacks up against SEC competition. They close by previewing the high-stakes Texas vs. Tennessee showdown to open SEC play, discussing implications for the offense, defense, and matchups.
[02:46–06:07, 09:08–11:05, 17:01–20:58]
“He says, ‘You know what, I’m a football player…I like being able to say that I’m contributing and being able to say that I’m helping.’” — Joe Cook [06:07]
"In pass protection he's probably going to be okay...if he had a strong enough base for that not to happen at tackle." — Ian Boyd [09:08]
[09:50–15:41]
“They like being able to pull guards, get them on the move, fire off some gap schemes…They do like having the ability to pull guards, get them on the move.” — Joe Cook [11:48]
“Turntine is the most powerful lineman on the whole roster…when he blocks people, it looks different.” — Ian Boyd [13:23]
[17:16–20:58]
[20:04–22:48]
“If you get SEC average with this offensive line with these backs…the five-yard gains that they could never turn into 30-yard gains may turn into those 30-yard gains.” — Joe Cook [17:16]
“There’s like this whole level of the offense—and layer to Manning’s game—that we’ve kind of forgotten about that’s about to come back with a vengeance.” — Ian Boyd [20:58]
[23:30–26:43, 28:58–36:21]
“If they ran towards Siani’s side of the ball…7.3 yards per carry. When they ran right, only 4.2. There’s justifiable reason to be excited for him as a run blocker too.” — Joe Cook [23:30]
“They are a very—they make sense as a pairing because of how quick they are, and I really hope that they are able…to work together for the whole spring.” — Ian Boyd [25:05]
[36:21–37:24]
[38:24–39:13]
“Motion’s always going to be something that creates difficulties for this offense…it shouldn’t be at the bottom three in the country [in penalties].” — Joe Cook [39:13]
On Brandon Baker’s switch to guard:
“He says, ‘You know what, I’m a football player…’ I think he understands what the coaches are telling him…he sounded very, very happy about it.”
— Joe Cook [06:07]
On weight vs. effectiveness in the run game:
“Sometimes the weight doesn’t necessarily matter as much for pushing the run game…what helps with the weight is leaning on guys, like absorbing contact…”
— Ian Boyd [11:05, 11:36]
On OL development:
“Being older on the offensive line…and now for Texas, being older and a little bit more experienced doesn’t mean that they’re automatically going to be great, but it bodes a lot better for them than it did especially going into last year…”
— Joe Cook [17:16]
On the importance of improved pass protection/play action:
“There’s like this whole level of the offense—and layer to Manning’s game—that we’ve kind of forgotten about that’s about to come back with a vengeance.”
— Ian Boyd [20:58]
On penalties and experience:
“You were hoping that…experience, like I said, you’re going back to that Trevor Goosby, fourth-year guy…Connor Robertson, seen a lot, Brandon Baker, seen a lot, Melvin Sanai, seen a lot…”
— Joe Cook [39:13]
[41:01–62:56]
Tennessee’s Offense:
Texas’ Defensive Adjustments:
“The two best ways I’ve seen to deal with it are the Oklahoma flyover way…or play man coverage and get your extra guy in the box, drop Jelani down or whatever…” — Ian Boyd [55:12]
Tempo Issues:
Tennessee’s no-huddle pace will stress both sides’ conditioning and communications, especially interior DL.
“It’s hard to move 370 pounds snap after snap at, like, you know, three steps in a minute.” — Joe Cook [57:27]
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