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Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet. I'm producer Mia Sorrenti for this episode. We're rejoining for part two of our live event with one of the UK's best loved comedians, Alan Davis. Davis joined us recently at Union Chapel in London to reflect on his life in comedy, from the early days of Stand up to the changing cultural landscape facing comedians today. He was in conversation with journalist and broadcaster Jenny Kleeman. If you haven't heard Part one, we recommend jumping back an episode to get up to speed. But now let's rejoin the conversation live at Union Chapel in London.
Audience Member / Questioner (2:20)
How have your brother and sister reacted to you being so open about what's happened you to oh.
Alan Davies (2:27)
My brother doesn't have any contact. He used to send cards to my kids for their birthdays and then when I had my father arrested for historical sexual abuse, he stopped sending birthday cards to my kids. That was the only response that registered and my sister didn't want me to write the book. She said to me, our childhood is private, and I get it. And I'm still in touch with her. And I know she's found it very difficult. She was only three when she lost her mum. And so for all of us, our father, you have to please this one parent. And he was very manipulative man, and it was very difficult to please him. And I carried on trying to please him into my 40s, I realized, and I think it's extremely difficult for her to cope with. So it's a sadness, you know, I've got a friend who was badly abused as a child by her father, and she subsequently became a sign language interpreter and very obviously telling other people's stories whilst unable to tell her own. You know, it was clear what she was doing. But lots and lots of deaf people, she was helping deaf people when they're in contact with social services, when they're in contact with the courts, when they're in contact with the police, whose lives have gone off the rails. And there's a lot of vulnerability in the deaf community, and there's a lot of vulnerability to predators and abusers. And so she's continually having to interpret for deaf people who've had these experiences. So it's really extremely difficult for her as a victim of abuse. But she's. I think she's an amazing. You know, this is one of those people who should have the MBE or whatever the fuck they give out. She's amazing. She says routinely, her experiences for each of these victims or survivors or whatever term you want to use, when they confront their family, the family closes ranks in there. That's the norm. And it's very distressing to hear that. But often the abuse is in the family and is powerful in the family. And the fear of displeasing that person often means that this one person is pushed out the nest. That's kind of where we are in the world. There's a brilliant book, Percival van der Kolk's book, the Body Keeps the Score, and he talks about a lot about child abuse in that book. And he considered. He was writing about the United States, but he considers it to be the most serious epidemic in America, that the damage done to people in childhood, the cost for the state in terms of how many people need to access health care, how many people have bad health outcomes because of drug abuse, alcohol abuse, how many people can't function properly in the workplace, you know, the amount of associated problems that the cost to the society is billions of dollars. You know, so I think it's this sort of secret problem. So this book is. And the other book is a tiny little like your phone torch from space trying to help.