SMU President Jay Hartzell shares his journey from growing up in Oklahoma to leading two major universities—first at the University of Texas and now at SMU. He reflects on the differences between large public institutions and smaller private schools, the complexities of leadership during times of crisis, and the evolving landscape of higher education.

Hartzell offers a behind-the-scenes look at navigating COVID-19, social unrest, and political pressures while leading UT, along with insights into major decisions like conference realignment and the future of college athletics. He also outlines his vision for SMU’s continued rise, emphasizing agility, community support, and the powerful role of Dallas in the university’s success.

In This Episode

[00:01:04] From UT to SMU

[00:05:35] The Opportunity Emerges

[00:08:06] Finding Economics & Academia

[00:11:14] Teaching & Early Career Growth

[00:14:00] Becoming UT President During COVID

[00:19:00] Diversity, Culture & Campus Challenges

[00:25:24] Protests, Free Speech & Leadership Pressure

[00:28:58] SEC Realignment & Big Decisions

[00:33:00] The Future of College Athletics

[00:40:00] NIL, Transfers & Athlete Development

[00:52:00] SMU Strategy & ACC Positioning