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To Monday.com you're listening to an Ono Media Podcast. Hey everyone and welcome back to the into the Dark podcast. I'm your host Peyton Moreland. I am so glad you are here either watching or listening to this true crime slash dark spooky everything podcast. If you are new to the channel or the show, can you please subscribe, follow the show, turn on notifications, turn on downloads, and please leave a comment on the YouTube video or over on the into the Dark podcast. Instagram Leave a Review Guys, it's just a great way to interact with the show and it really helps out more than you know. But either way, as always, I'm just so happy you are here. Jumping into my 10 seconds for the week. I just got back from Idaho which is where I was born and raised. I was there visiting family but I'm back and I'm settled and it feels so great. I still have been going to the chiropractor, still have been going to the gym so stretching all the good things I did just order some new spooky coloring books for Halloween coming up. You guys know I color on my iPad, but I also do love to color with my markers too so I'm really excited for those. Also, if you missed it on my personal Twitch channel which if you don't know what Twitch is, it is just a live streaming platform where you it's just easier to live stream on there than say TikTok or Instagram. It's a live streaming platform. It is free to join. I have a personal channel over there where I go live almost every single day. Just doing stuff with my life. Sometimes I play fortnite, sometimes I do get ready with me this last week I did a build a spooky fairy garden with me while live and I went to Michael's and I bought all this stuff and it was so fun and I built this fairy garden live on stream with all of the viewers talking in the chat, playing music. It was such a vibe. It was so much fun. So if you are interested in kind of seeing that side of my world, go ahead. The links are everywhere in my personal Instagram. You can just go and follow me on Twitch. But yeah, that is all I have I think for today. So let's jump right into the case. All right. So in a perfect world, we would all have great relationships with our family members. Parents would support and love their children unconditionally and kids would adore and respect their mothers and fathers. They would understand that even when they don't like certain rules and restrictions, they exist to keep everyone healthy and safe. Now, sadly, we don't live in a perfect world. Some families are dysfunctional and even healthy ordinary people can have strained relationships with their relatives. And in some cases, nobody has even done anything wrong. It's just that people don't click for whatever reason, even if they are related by blood. But of course, there are also families where everyone is close and loving. And to all appearances, that once was true of the Van Gelderins who lived in Druid Hills, Georgia. Now, Druid Hills is a very upscale neighborhood outside of Atlanta and it's known for being wealthy, nice and safe. I mean, with a last name like Van Gelderrens, I would hope so. So the Van Gelderins were a family of four. The parents, Roseanne and Leon, were a happily married couple. They had one son and one daughter, Will and Jenna. Now, Jenna, the daughter had a reputation for being very quirky even at a young age. She was smart and high energy and she wanted to understand everything she could about the world. So she asked questions constantly. Jenna never seemed to notice if the person she was talking to was busy or distracted or if they just didn't want to talk to her. She would ask question after question until the other person got annoyed and asked her to leave. And it's great to be curious and to want to learn more, especially as a child. But Jenna's habit made it difficult for her to make friends in her area. Other kids at her school avoided her because they didn't want to listen to her non stop. And by the time she was in middle school, Jenna realized she was not very popular. She regularly got snubbed when her classmates sent out birthday party invitations or through sleepovers. And since she didn't have many friends her own age, Jenna became even closer to her brother and her parents. She was kind of known as the glue that held this whole wealthy family together. In fact, Jenna had a knack for organizing and planning events, so she never forgot anyone's birthday, anniversary, or any major holiday. Jenna was also very organized, and as she grew up, she followed a strict schedule, and it was something that her family really appreciated about her. The problem was, by the time Jenna was a young adult, she was still very lonely. Her family couldn't be her entire world, and she wanted real friends. She was so eager to be liked and accepted that sometimes she would actually let her guard down with the wrong people. There were cases when her peers pretended to like her just to use her or embarrass her, and Jenna fell for those kinds of tricks again and again. She only wanted to get along with people, and that stopped her from being as careful as. As she might have been otherwise. But beyond that, Jenna seemed to have a hard time reading social cues. Just like when she was younger, it was much tougher for her than it was with other people. And Jenna's parents worried about this. So in 2016, when Jenna was 24 years old, they actually encouraged her to speak to a doctor. And that's when Jenna was diagnosed as being on the autism spectrum. Now, autism affects people very differently, and there is no one universal experience with it. But in Jenna's case, as we already know, it meant that she just had a hard time making friends. And she could be overly trusting when she met new people, which in turn meant that she had a lot of fake friends who only pretended to like her, but they didn't have her best interests at heart. In fact, according to her father, Leon, she fell in with a bad crowd around early 2017. This was just a few months she received her diagnosis. She's 24 years old, and I don't know the full details on who these people were and what they did, but as soon as Jenna's parents heard about them, they knew that these people were bad news. The problem is that when Leon and Roseanne warned Jenna about her new friends, she defended them. She didn't want to believe that these new friends could hurt her. Except the truth was that her life was already kind of headed in a bad direction. See, Jenna had a job working at a pet store. It was the first Full time position she had ever had. And Jenna was so excited to make money and take on adult responsibilities. She was also a huge animal lover, so it was basically the perfect job for her. But around February or March, so not long after she started hanging out with her new friends, Jenna actually got fired. The store managers had learned that she had stolen cash from them, about $3,000 in fact. This wasn't something they just suspected. They knew Jenna had done it. And in addition to her firing, they also filed a police report against her. So Jenna was soon charged with misdemeanor theft. But she had to wait for her trial date to see what kind of trouble she was actually going to get into. Now, as soon as Roseanne and Leon heard about this, they were shocked. They, they did not believe their daughter Jenna would ever steal from her job. She was usually honest and trustworthy, and it's not like she really needed the money. The only explanation that they could come up with was that maybe her friends had pressured her to do it. Perhaps they were using her for money and she began stealing on their behalf for acceptance. The problem was, at this point, her parents were suspicious, but they couldn't back up their suspicions with evidence. They certainly couldn't prove that Jenna's friends had anything to do with this theft. And unfortunately, Leon was hesitant to ask Jenna about it directly. They were kind of walking on eggshells. After all, every time he had criticized her friends in the past, she had stood up for them. So instead of talking over the situation, he actually decided to just go through Jenna's phone. They were on the same family plan, and it was set up so he could pull her call and text records at any time. His hope was he would find an incriminating message that would prove Jenna was innocent and that her friends were to blame. And I don't know exactly what he saw because that specific information hasn't been made public, but whatever it was that he found on her phone, it had him feeling more convinced than ever that Jenna's friends were bad influences. So, armed with this evidence, he went to Jenna and told her, hey, you have to stop seeing these friends. Now, of course, Jenna asked him a lot of questions about why he didn't like them and why he was so upset. Remember, she loved to ask questions. And when she asked him why he disliked all of the people that she was friends with, he confessed. He admitted he'd gone through her private messages on her phone. Well, once Jenna heard that a full grown adult, she felt completely betrayed. She announced that she was actually going to move out from the family home because she needed space from all of her family. And then in April of that year, Jenna went out and found an apartment to live in. But she refused to tell her parents her new address. She said this was necessary. It was the only way for her to get the freedom that she needed. She had to figure out who she was as a person and ensure that her boundaries were respected. Now, let's be honest, this all sounds very intense. Except even though Jenna was living away from her parents and hiding her address, she still loved them. She still wanted to be close to them. She didn't cut them off entirely. She and her family did remain fairly close. Jenna talked to her mother on the phone every single day, and she actually still called Leon and Roseanne Daddy and Mommy. She'd never grown out of using those nicknames, and it showed that deep down, she still felt close and affectionate toward them. On top of that, she still came back home and slept in her own bedroom on a pretty regular basis. To be clear, she had no plans to move back home permanently. But the point was that even though things were kind of tense, Jenna still loved her parents and wanted them to be a part of her life. In fact, she admitted to one of her friends that she wasn't even actually angry with her mom or dad. She hadn't moved out to try and hurt them or punish them. Instead, she just felt like they disproved of the way she was living her life, and she wanted the freedom to try new things and figure out who she was as an independent adult without them always keeping tabs on her. So basically, in Jenna's mind, she wasn't rebelling. The secrecy and the new apartment were just necessary steps on the road to growing up. She was working hard to still be on good terms with her parents, and everyone was doing what they could to keep the peace and get along.
