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You're listening to an Ono Media podcast. Hey everyone and welcome back to the into the Dark Podcast. I'm your host Peyton Moreland. I'm so glad you are here listening my 10 seconds. This week I've started stretching again you guys. Stretching is so good for you. If you don't know how literally YouTube morning stretching routine and then just follow it. It is so good for your body, it's so good for mobility, it is good for your muscles, it's good for aging and it's good for your nervous system. Okay? I love stretching. Put your headphones on, put on some music that relaxes you and then just follow a stretching routine. I I promise it gets easier and easier the more you do it. I was a dancer so I grew up stretching all of the time so I don't follow a routine but I know there is so many on YouTube that you can follow and again it is like a hack for your nervous system and just for your body in general. So yeah, I've been stretching again and if you are listening to this right now. You should stretch, too. All right, I'm done. I won't tell you what to do anymore, other than to keep this video or podcast going as we get into today's episode. Picking a college is one of the biggest decisions you can make, because this could determine what you will major in, what kind of career you will have in the future. It can also shape your social life. After all, the people you meet in school can become your closest friends in the years to come. And a lot of people don't realize this, but some believe that the choices you make at college can actually change the entire world. And I'm not just talking about getting involved with political groups or organizing school events. There are actually rumors that college campuses are the sites of major government cover ups, advanced spy operations, and powerful secret societies. So today's episode is going to look a little different from ones I've made in the past. So instead of doing a deep dive into one dark story, I am covering five tinfoil tales. And they are all about hidden plots, supernatural events, and misinformation campaigns at colleges. So here we go. I am going to start with one of the most well known university tinfoil tales of all time. Skull and Bones. Now, for those who aren't familiar, that is the name of a secret society at Yale. Skull and Bones was founded in 1832, and the two founders were very open and honest about their goals. They wanted the richest, most powerful and best connected men at Yale to have a place where they could meet and talk privately. And they also wanted a place for members to feel comfortable saying things that were rude or prejudiced without being judged for it. And most importantly, they encouraged society members called Bonesmen, which is honestly a cool name, to form lifelong friendships that would last for decades after graduation. Think, you know, fraternity house on steroids. In other words, the purpose of Skull and Bones was for people who already had a lot of privilege to connect with one another. They would support each other, make plans without anyone realizing what they were up to, and then gain even more power and prestige. And then they would use their secret society connections to increase their wealth and influence as adults. And again, you guys, this isn't speculation. Like, the founders openly admitted that this is what Skull and Bones was supposed to accomplish. This is a well known thing. It is real. They designed a logo for the society that was full of secret symbols that represented the death of democracy and the triumph of dictatorship. And for decades, they banned certain students, including people of color and women, from joining. So all of this to say, the group was clearly opposed to equality and fairness. Now, today, people say Skull and Bones is exactly what the original founders wanted it to be. It's still a club that helps rich people get unfair advantages while harming the general public. In fact, it's allegedly more powerful than anyone ever expected it to be. Three US presidents have been former Bonesmen. William Howard Taft, George H.W. bush, and his son, George W. Bush. And many secret society members also have important jobs in the government, while others run some of the largest banks in the world. So these are people who can shape politics and finances in major ways. People say the society has orchestrated wars to ensure members remain rich and powerful to, or that they possibly planned the Kennedy assassination. I mean, when you have that many rich, powerful businessmen meeting in secret in college and then staying in contact for decades, you have to assume that they're up to something pretty intense, right? But those allegations are very controversial. Some people think Skull and Bones actually rules the world. However, others say this is all baseless, with no evidence to back any of it up. Ultimately, it is impossible to say who is right and who is wrong, because nobody knows exactly what Skull and Bones is up to, other than the members themselves. But this is one secret society that is definitely real. At college, however, the next tinfoil tale I want to cover has a lot more documented evidence to support it. And to set the scene, I want you to picture your typical college campus. It is full of students, faculty, visiting lecturers, and all sorts of other people. You can expect to meet just about anyone and everyone while you're in college. Even undercover spies? Yes, really. See, the Central Intelligence agency, or the CIA, was formed back in 1947. And one of their first tasks was to hire people to work for the US Government as bureaucrats, data analysts, and spies. They reached out to graduates from the top schools in the United States, which at the time mostly meant, like, Ivy League leagues, especially Harvard, Princeton, and Yale. A few years went by, and generally, anytime there was an opening at the CIA, current employees would refer their friends and alumni from their colleges, which meant they continued recruiting Ivy League grads to work for the CIA. Now, eventually, the relationship between the CIA and schools became more formal. Recruiters actually got permission to actively visit college campuses to identify students who might make good agents someday. And then they would offer prestigious jobs to seniors who were basically going to graduate. And nowadays, it's pretty common knowledge that if you want to be a spy when you grow up, you can just go to Princeton, Yell, or Harvard. But some people think it actually goes further than that. Then this is what is documented in real. But rumors and allegations suggest these agencies aren't just recruiting students. They're also sending undercover agents onto campuses to keep tabs on the people who work and study there. See, Ivy League schools tend to work very closely with diplomats, scientists and researchers. You take a programming class, you might learn about state of the art hacking techniques from one of the best computer technicians in the world. Or if you sign up for a seminar on politics, you could end up hearing lectures from ambassadors with impressive real world experience. Allegedly, students from other countries could be enrolling in these courses to get closer to the top minds in the United States and then pass the information they learn along back to their government. And it's thought that the CIA sends undercover agents to college campuses to catch those foreign spies and keep tabs on the professors who work there. Take this story, which an anonymous professor shared in 2017. I don't know his name, so we'll call him Peter. Now, one day, Peter was leading a class discussion on a sensitive political issue. After the hour ended, a visitor with a Russian accent approached him. He told Peter he had been listening in, he liked what he had to say, and he wanted to grab lunch sometime. Now, Peter wasn't sure if that was a good idea or not, especially because he'd done some high level government work in the past, which was one of the biggest reasons he had been hired to teach this class at an Ivy League in the first place. He asked his boss for feedback and his supervisor said, oh, that Russian man is a spy. And even more alarming, the FBI already knew about this guy and they wanted Peter to get lunch with him and find out what he was up to. Keep in mind, Peter was not a trained undercover agent. He hadn't taken this professor job with any expectation that he would be doing this kind of work, but he agreed to take on the task because he wanted to help his country. Now, over the course of the next two years, the Russian man met Peter for lunch ten separate times, and he showered Peter with expensive gifts that were clearly meant to be bribes. And meanwhile, Peter kept careful notes on every single thing the Russian man said or did and then reported everything back to the FBI. Now, the really interesting thing about this story is that it isn't unique. There are a ton of students and professors at Ivy League universities who have had similar experiences. Roughly one out of three alumni say that the FBI approached them at some point before graduation, and who knows how many more were contacted by foreign agents and never publicly admitted to it. Some even alleged that the FBI or CIA can influence who these schools hire as teachers or staff so they can punish certain activists by making it harder for them to find jobs or or place agents into positions to do more undercover work. In other words, schools like Harvard, Yale and Princeton might all be swarming with FBI and CIA agents, not to mention all of those alleged foreign operatives. And enrolling at these colleges might open the door for you to get a job with a government agency or plunge you into a strange world of espionage, lies and double crosses, all before you even get your degree. Now I know that all can be like a bit upsetting and disturbing. So luckily the next college tinfoil tell I want to touch on is a change of pace. Alright guys, let's be honest. Shopping. Well, it's not as easy or fun as it sounds. I have spent hours scrolling, zooming in, reading reviews, only to end up with a cart full of nothing that fits or feels right and a bunch of returns to do. But a Stitch Fix makes it so much easier. A personal stylist sends pieces that match your size, style, and everything's in your budget. No guesswork, no stress. Honestly, Stitch Fix is so cool. Let me tell you how it works. 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That's Quince Q-U-I-N-C-E.comdark to get free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.comdark so let's go to a midwestern city called Athens, which is where you will find the campus for Ohio University. Now, before the school opened its doors, Athens was home to a mental health facility. It was founded in the early 1850s, but later the hospital came to be known as the Ridges, which is how I'll be referring to it. When a lot of people think of mental health treatment from that era, they picture horrible facilities full of dark cells and treatments that might as well have been torture. But the Ridges in Ohio was different. It was part of a new movement in the medical world, one that focused on treating people with mental health conditions with love and respect. The Ridges was intentionally designed to have a small number of patients so doctors could give each resident lots of attention and care. The people who lived there were encouraged to spend time outside, getting in touch with nature, and they were even given chores like helping out with the cooking and the cleaning. The idea was that people feel better when they have a sense of purpose and when they get to accomplish things. So patients were getting remedies, being treated well, and doing work that meant something to them. The problem was that even though the doctors meant well, they still didn't really understand at that time how the mind worked. So sometimes they gave their patients treatments that weren't effective, things like electroshock therapy and lobotomies. But doctors also tried to cure their patients at this time by forcing them to sit in tubs filled with boiling water. And when the residents thrashed around and tried to escape, doctors and their assistants held them down. Now, I know this sounds like the cruel torture from the time, but medical professionals at the Time genuinely thought these painful remedies were we're actually helping people. In fact, some of these treatments can be effective in the right circumstances. People get electroshock therapy even today, and it can help them feel better, but it can't cure everything. And since the doctors didn't understand when it was appropriate to use these treatments and when it wasn't, they just ended up hurting people for no reason. Plus, in the 1900s, a lot of the residents who checked into the Ridges weren't even suffering from mental health conditions. Some of them were low income, didn't have anywhere else to go. Others were elderly or had physical disabilities, but they didn't have access to traditional medical care. These people came to the Ridges because they were out of other options. And unfortunately, the doctors didn't always distinguish between these residents and and those who had come in with serious emotional problems, and they used the same treatments on everyone. Now, some of the clients at the Ridges became very ill or died because they didn't get the kind of care they needed. And sadly, many of those people never even received a proper burial. See, many patients families refused to speak to them or even acknowledge that they existed. I mean, the stigma against mental health treatment was so strong at this time. So when these patients died, many of them had to just be buried on the facility's grounds because nobody was willing to come and collect their remains or throw a proper funeral for them. And even worse, new owners took over the ridges in the 1950s. And unlike the original founders, these executives didn't care about their patients dignity and well being, and it was just a business to them. They cut budgets and accepted as many residents as possible until the building was dangerously overcrowded. It took decades before the government intervened to regulate the Ridges and advocate for the clients. And then in the late 1980s, elected officials realized the building was too old and run down and people weren't getting the support they needed there. So patients were sent to other facilities. And in 1993, 3, the ridges finally shut down entirely. And then Ohio University took over the property and converted it into administrative offices and a campus operated museum. Now, fast forward to today. Some people say the spirits of those former residents never left, even after the hospital closed its doors. Instead, reportedly, ghosts continue to haunt the the halls of the land. At the Ridges, for example, there are a lot of legends about a former resident named Margaret Schilling. She was receiving treatment at the facility back in 1979, but at some point during the year, she wandered away from her doctors and caretakers and just disappeared months later, her remains were found in the building's attic. The assumption is that she became trapped up there somehow and passed away. And by the time she was discovered, her body was severely decomposed. It left a permanent stain on the floor, which is still visible today. And some students and workers who visit the attic say they have spotted the spirit of a woman walking around. Rumor says it's Margaret's ghost still trapped near the exact location where she passed away. Visitors have also spotted inexplicable entities in other parts of the Ridges. These spirits are dressed as asylum staff or as patients, but it's hard to identify anyone by name. Some believe the ghosts are attracted to this place because of the horrors that happened while it was a mental health hospital. But there are other stranger rumors. It's said that in the 1850s, around the time when the Ridges was built, a wealthy local family in Athens was obsessed with the supernatural, and they regularly performed seances and other rituals in town. It is said that they may have opened some kind of gateway or portal to the afterlife. And since then, Ohio University has been a hotbed for supernatural activity. In fact, it has actually been called the most haunted campus in the entire world. It's hard to say which of this is true, and that is actually, in part, thanks to the next tinfoil tale. I'm going to cover for this one. I need to talk about the Iowa Writers Workshop, which is a prestigious creative writing program at the University of Iowa. It is one of the top programs of its kind in the United States. The Iowa Writers Workshop was founded in the 1930s, and at the time, it was the only major like it. If you wanted to learn how to write and become a novelist, this was your only option. But over the next two decades, lots of other schools started their own creative writing departments, all of which were modeled on Iowa's original department. Now, when these schools had to hire teachers and administrators, they often hired Iowa Writers Workshop graduates. In fact, more than half the staffers who took over these creative writing programs had been through Iowa's program. Meaning, throughout most of the 20th century, the majority of writing professors all over the US were all following the same curriculum. They were also teaching their students the same writing styles, all of which had originated from this one college. So it's not an exaggeration to say the Iowa Writers Workshop is incredibly influential, and it has permanently shaped the way authors learn their craft and think about their novels. But this department also has a dark side. See, during the Cold War, the CIA was very worried that young people were too sympathetic toward Communist ideas, particularly students who were interested in the arts and in creative writing. The CIA also feared that up and coming young authors would write books that depicted communism as good and capitalism as bad. Perhaps these novels would persuade even more people of the future to agree with them. So the agency reached out to the most prestigious creative writing program in the country and said, hey, can you change your curriculum? And to entice the Iowa Writers Workshop to cooperate, they gave the school lots and lots of money. Now, CIA agents couldn't just tell professors to teach their students to write pro capitalism propaganda. The students would see through those lessons and maybe reject them outright. So instead, agents encouraged professors to do something a little more subtle in the classroom. They taught that good literature shouldn't have a clear message at all. I mean, we've all heard people complain when a story is too on the nose or when a moral is just too obvious. Well, the Iowa Writers Workshop took it one step further. They told their students that stories often shouldn't even have a moral at all. They should be more about feelings or vibes or little moments that evoke an emotion without suggesting anything deeper. Or as one New York Times article described it, good literature, students learned, contains sensations, not doctrines, experiences, not dogmas, memories, not philosophies. So students who may have wanted to write about communism learned that they would be better authors if they hid their real beliefs. Often, the messages were so deep in their stories that nobody would even pick up on them. They had to hide it. Now, the CIA shapes the publishing industry, and this is a big deal, because some of the graduates from these programs went on to write books that got published. Others found work as literary agents, executives at publishing houses. But book reviewers, Basically, nearly all of the people who make decisions about which novels go to stores, what sells and what doesn't are products of these programs. And since these people also learned lessons that were influenced by the CIA, that means this government agency has been shaping all of American literature for decades. Literally, you cannot walk into a bookstore or a library without seeing manuscripts that were created because of of the Iowa Writers Program. And these students all learned not to include clear themes or be too on the nose because the government was afraid of how this might impact the future. It's enough to make you wonder, what great works of literature are we missing out on because of government influence? And more importantly, how can you ever trust anything that you read? Now, that is a question that's worth keeping in mind as I cover my fifth and final tinfoil tale. 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These are things people say about drivers who switch their car insurance to Progressive and save Hundreds of Visit progressive.com to see if you could save Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates. Potential savings will vary. Not available in all states or situations. It's a story that begins on Monday, March 21, 1966. That evening, a whole bunch of students were gathered in their residence hall at Hillsdale College in Southern Michigan. It was about 10:30pm and and if you've ever lived in a dorm, you might be imagining a bunch of students getting ready for dates, parties or evening classes. But Hillsdell was a conservative religious school, and all of the female students had to follow a strict curfew, meaning everyone over 100 residents was at home at this time of night. Except then someone saw a strange light in the sky outside her window. It was shaped like a football. It was hovering right over the campus. So she told her friends what she had seen and they told more people and before you know it, over 87 students were crowded at their windows watching an unidentified glowing object. In 1966, this was almost every student in that building. And then while everyone was watching, two more lights appeared in the sky with the original one, and one of them moved toward the dorm. Now, at this point, the young women were frightened enough to call campus security and say, hey, we can all see these lights floating in the sky. Please investigate, do something. I mean, they didn't know what they were looking at, but they figured whatever it was, the authorities needed to get involved. Except the young women don't actually need to call anybody. Because a pair of police officers on patrol needed near the campus had also already spotted the same strange lights. The problem was that when the police officers tried to call the station and ask for information, they couldn't. Every time they turned on the radio, they only heard a loud burst of static. Almost like those lights were somehow interfering with our equipment and technology. So all anyone could do in the squad car or the dorm, everyone who's seeing these was sit still and watch. The lights actually remained in the sky for the rest of the night until about 5, 10am and at that time they just faded away into nothing. Now the good news is nobody was hurt. There was no indication that the unidentified objects were dangerous or a threat or kidnapping anybody. Still, everyone felt very unnerved after this event. Like they all knew it happened collectively as a whole. They saw it. This is real. They, but they don't know what it was. They have no answers. So before long, the government sent investigators to try and learn the truth about the so called Hillsdale incident. Specifically, a team from Project Blue Book came to campus to interview the witnesses, try to figure out what really happened. For those who aren't aware, Project Blue Book was like the real life version of the X Files. Their job, this is a real thing, was to look into UFO sightings and try to learn whether aliens exist. Makes sense why the government would have this program. So after they talked to the witnesses and some experts on weather and the aircraft, they came to a conclusion. The Blue Book officials said that everyone at Hillsdale College, all 87 witnesses, plus the police officers, saw swamp gas. Specifically, they said the lights had come from a marshy area just off campus. And when plants and animals die and decay in the swamp, they rot and they release gas. During the winter, that gas can get trapped under the ice when the top layer of the pond freezes. And then every spring the ice melts and all of the gas that has been building for months just Whooshes upward. Now, if you're picturing invisible vapors in the air, think again. Sometimes swamp gas can be visible, and it has even been known to glow in the dark. So, in summary, that is what the folks at Project Blue Book said had happened. They claimed that the evening of March 21, 1966, was unusually warm and the ice that night in the swamp melted and a bunch of gas escaped and lit up the sky. That's what the women in the dorms and the passing police officers actually saw. Now, of course, a lot of people do not believe this official story. I mean, how could 87 or more witnesses all be wrong? How could they all be like, no, it was definitely like floating lights, especially when so many of them had already lived on campus for years at that point and knew what the skies looked like in the spring. In fact, this explanation gets even stranger when you realize there was an eyewitness who lived off campus but saw something odd the night before, back on March 20th. Now, this witness was a farmer, and that night he and his son were at home when they saw a saucer covered in lights basically land on their front porch or their front lawn. And they called the police. And the officer who responded was not the same one who saw the objects in the sky the next day, night still, this officer also spotted something flying through the air and snapped a photo. Now, the picture does not turn out very clear, but it does show streaks of light like they were part of an aircraft that was racing across the sky during a picture taken at night time. In other words, he definitely wasn't seeing glowing swamp gas. And neither was the farmer or the son who reported the saucer. And that's why many people reject the Blue Book's explanation and think the unidentified craft were alien spaceships. And the government told a wild story about swamp gas to try and cover it up, even when over 80 people saw it. That said, I don't know how the actual eyewitnesses feel about all of this, because many of them refuse to publicly speak about the incident even to this day. In fact, in 2022, a film professor and his students wanted to make a documentary on the Heels Dell incident. As part of it, they planned to talk to some of the witnesses who had gone public nearly 60 years earlier. The documentarians weren't looking to release anything controversial or explosive. They just wanted to cover the information that was already published and recorded. Now, given how much time had passed, many of those witnesses had passed away. But the students and their professor identified 12 women. They had all been Staying in that particular dorm at the time of the sighting, they were still alive. They had all been a part of the original story story. So they reached out to all 12 of these women, and not one of them agreed to be in the documentary. Some just politely declined, saying they were too busy or they didn't remember anything. Others didn't respond. But this was strange to the film professor. He had helped his students make plenty of documentaries before now, and this was the first time he'd ever run into the problem where nobody involved was willing to speak on camera. While one of the women they'd contacted lived pretty close to campus, she hadn't responded to their request for an interview. So the professor figured maybe she just didn't receive their messages inviting her to come do the documentary. Perhaps she would be more receptive if they asked her face to face. So he and a few students went to her house and knocked on the door. Now, when she answered, the professor tried to explain who he was and what they were doing there. But as soon as he mentioned the UFO sighting back from her college days, she cut him off. She abruptly said, I'm sorry, but I never want to talk about that again. Well, the professor didn't want to pressure her or make her uncomfortable, so he thanked her for her time and left. But afterward, he found the whole encounter very strange. He just couldn't understand why every single eyewitness was so scared or reluctant to talk on camera. So again, you have to wonder what really happened? What were they afraid of? Maybe they worried people would judge them if they admitted that they believed in aliens and that they saw a ufo. Or perhaps someone very powerful had found a way to silence them. It's honestly impossible to say for sure if that is true. In fact, all five of these college tinfoil tales I've covered today are very controversial. Some might be based in reality. Others might be exaggerations or complete fabrications. And it's also worth noting that these are not the only tinfoil tales about colleges that exist. There are way more that I didn't have enough time to share in this episode. So if you've heard any rumors or allegations about your school that I didn't cover, please comment and let me know. I'm talking cover ups, supernatural ufo, weird government agencies being involved. Otherwise, tell me if you agree with any of the tinfoil tales I told today, or if you have your own theories. Because the truth is, you don't need to be a formal student to study evidence, research strange events, or debate what they mean. There are lots of ways to find the truth, so long as you have an open mind. So again, go to college, have fun. But maybe be careful because maybe it's not what it seems. All right you guys, that was my Tinfoil Tell episode for today and I will see you next week as we dive into a true crime case and go further into the dark together. Goodbye.
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Into The Dark Episode 156 – College Conspiracies
Host: Payton Moreland
Date: February 4, 2026
In this special episode, Payton Moreland explores the shadowy side of college life by diving into five intriguing conspiracy theories, cover-ups, and supernatural tales tied to universities. Instead of her standard true crime case deep-dive, Payton strings together a narrative of "tinfoil tales," ranging from secret societies and government espionage to haunted campuses and mysterious UFO sightings, all centered on the hidden world lurking within and around American colleges.
Payton's narration is congenial, inviting, and slightly skeptical, blending factual delivery with speculative musings. She preserves her trademark curiosity and approachable style throughout:
“There are lots of ways to find the truth, so long as you have an open mind. So again, go to college, have fun. But maybe be careful because maybe it's not what it seems.” (37:30)
Payton wraps with an invitation to listeners to share their own campus rumors, highlighting that these five are only a small sample of college-related conspiracy lore.
Summary prepared for listeners seeking the stories, key ideas, and memorable moments—without the ads, intros, or outros.