As AI accelerates cyber-attacks and intelligence moves to the edge, security economics are being rewritten.

In this episode of IoT and AI Leaders, Nick Earle is joined by Jasson Casey, CEO and co‑founder of Beyond Identity, to explore what happens when AI, IoT, and autonomous agents collide and why identity has become the weakest link in modern systems.

The conversation goes beyond device security into the deeper problem of movable credentials, AI‑powered attackers, and agent-driven systems operating at machine speed. From hacked robotic vacuums to compromised payment terminals, Jasson explains why most cyber incidents still share the same root cause and how immovable, cryptographically bound credentials change the game.

Key topics include:

Why AI makes speed more dangerous than sophistication in cyber attacks
How 80%+ of breaches trace back to identity and access failures
What “immovable credentials” really mean (and why chip & PIN got it right)
Real-world IoT security failures—and their systemic consequences
The rise of autonomous AI agents and “shadow AI” inside organisations

Tune in to hear the full conversation.

Key Topics & Chapters

(00:00) Introduction: AI, IoT and security
(02:10) Jasson Casey
(04:00) AI and the speed of cyber
(07:45) Movable credentials and breach
(11:20) Chip & PIN and immovable credentials
(15:30) IoT device failures and real-world risks
(21:10) Hacked vacuums and firmware trust
(24:30) Autonomous agents and shadow AI
(29:40) AI governance and data-flow control
(33:50) Humans, verification, and future skills
(38:10) Closing thoughts on security at machine speed