AI is here. The layoffs have started. Does anyone have a plan?

Gina Raimondo does. Two-term Governor of Rhode Island, former U.S. Commerce Secretary, the person who shepherded the CHIPS Act through Congress and personally negotiated chip exports with Chinese leadership. Harvard, Oxford, Yale Law before any of it.

Her plan: a new grand bargain between government and business. Workforce training that's continuous, employer-led, and funded by outcomes. Wage insurance for workers retraining mid-career. Tax incentives that make it more expensive to abandon workers than to retrain them. The same urgency we've poured into chips and models, applied to the tens of millions of American jobs about to change.

In this episode, Connor and Gina get into the plan, the warning ("do this wrong and we will have automated our decline"), why UBI is a cop-out, and her honest reply to whether she'd like the job of President in 2028. There's also a phrase she banned in her own cabinet that we can't in good conscience print here. Connor gets her to use it on camera. Stay for that.

Chapters

00:00:00 Intro — The woman behind the AI plan
00:01:16 Andy and the power couple formula
00:05:46 Faith, mass, and spirituality in leadership
00:08:01 Winning AI without losing the American dream
00:10:33 The transition crisis nobody's planning for
00:14:34 The grand bargain — Changing incentives for companies
00:17:55 More women in charge would change everything
00:20:03 The girl in the back seat with electrical tape stripes
00:22:39 Lightning round — No grin-fucking allowed
00:43:40 The Misgina Special — Moving at superhuman speed
00:37:32 2028 and the fire in the belly
00:41:48 Conquering the self and the secret to happiness
00:48:03 Wrap-up — Legacy is love, not work

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What if the most interesting thing about work isn't what we do—but what it does to us?

Is This Working?! is about meaningful work and the messy humans who do it. Host Connor Diemand-Yauman talks to the leaders, builders, and creatives navigating the chaos through the moments they question everything and show up anyway.

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Winning AI *Without* Losing The American Dream — Fmr US Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo

Winning AI Without Losing The American Dream — Fmr US Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo