Executive Disorder: Asylum Seekers Forced to Meet with Iranian Officials, Ken Paxton, Activist Charged for GrapheneOS Phone Wipe

Summary

Executive Disorder: Asylum, Ken Paxton, and the GrapheneOS Case

It Could Happen Here, Executive Disorder Weekly (July 31, 2026)
Hosts: Garrison Davis, James Stout, Robert Evans
Featured topics: Iranian asylum seekers and ICE, the Ken Paxton Senate campaign, a landmark GrapheneOS digital privacy case, plus congressional races, data centers, and drone security.

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Episode Overview

This episode covers the week's major stories surrounding collapse and state repression in the U.S. and abroad. Topics include collusion between ICE and Iranian officials that endangers asylum seekers, a deep dive into Texas AG Ken Paxton’s scandal-ridden Senate race, a first-of-its-kind federal case targeting an activist for using a secure phone OS feature, recent developments in military spending, and the evolving landscape of digital rights and border searches.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. U.S.-Iran-Saudi Conflicts & Military Updates

[03:09 – 05:35]

• Recent Strikes & Regional Escalation:

  • On July 29, U.S. and Saudi forces conducted strikes inside Iraq targeting what they call "Iran-backed terrorists."
  • Iraqi officials blamed Ukraine for earlier strikes—falsely.
  • Iran attempted to target US bases in Jordan; strikes against Kurdistan continue.
  • Reuters reports that Iran will soon receive Chinese shoulder-fired air-defense systems ("manpads") despite China’s denials.
    • “Women can use them too. Probably not in Iran.” – James Stout [03:56]

• Military Aid and Laws:

  • House approved $1.15 trillion 2027 National Defense Authorization Act; includes $750M for US-Israel joint military programs [05:35].
  • The Trump administration allegedly canceled $8B in clean energy grants based solely on swing/Democratic-leaning states.
    • “Lawyers for the Department of Energy just explicitly laid this out in court doc saying that’s how these grants were selected.” – Garrison Davis [06:35]

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2. Curtailing Asylum: ICE & Iranian Officials (Shocking Allegations)

[50:04 – 59:40]

• ICE meets with Iranian officials:

  • ICE forced Iranian asylum seekers, who fled the regime, to meet with Iranian government representatives—sometimes in U.S. detention centers (e.g., Otay Mesa, San Diego).
    • Iranian official introduced as a "consul" despite Iran having no consulate in the U.S.; meetings occurred in person and by phone.
    • Iranian officials had detailed knowledge of detainees' asylum applications and personal data—sometimes reciting case details back to them.
    • “This disclosure… of asylum information to the Iranian government… has materially increased the likelihood that I will be detained, interrogated or tortured or killed if I ever return to Iran.” – Survivor testimony, read by James [55:20]
  • Detainees were allegedly threatened, pressured to contact the regime, or forced to sign self-deportation papers (sometimes by physical force).
  • Many of these cases involve women who had fled Iran due to protest activities or religious persecution and endured sexual abuse and torture both before and during detention.
    • “The regime agent also knew when her husband was being deported and to where… before he met this woman.” [56:00]
  • The Iranian Interest Section (at the Pakistani Embassy) claimed they met monthly with ICE, were given lists of individuals and asylum applications, and coordinated removals—sometimes the U.S. even sought help “getting rid of” certain detainees [56:45].

• Legal Context:

  • Stringent bans and “purge” of pro-immigrant judges under Trump make winning asylum nearly impossible.
    • “People are in ever-spiraling delays, or appealing, or going through the Convention Against Torture process… front and center of what you would think a textbook asylum case would be.” – James [58:09]
    • “All of these people detail torture, most of the women detail sexual abuse…” [58:33]

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3. Ken Paxton’s Texas Senate Race: Corruption and a Possible Democratic Win?

[24:45 – 39:28]

• Paxton's History of Corruption:

  • Involved in ethics and securities fraud scandals going back to 2008; covered up business interests in state contracts.
    • “You hate it when you’re dry snitched on by the company that bribed you.” – Ryan Cooper [27:05]
  • Openly stole a $1,000 pen on courthouse video; ran “blind” trust with direct communication to trustee.
    • "He’s going to get charged with securities fraud for this" – Ryan [27:37]
  • Narrowly elected as state Attorney General despite scandals, benefiting from massive campaign spending and anti-Democratic sentiment [28:51].
  • Survived impeachment and criminal charges, in part by leaning into his role as a “conservative warrior” and leveraging support from Trump-era Republicans.

• Notorious Abuses of Power:

  • Approved sweetheart deals for sex offenders and murder for hire suspects while in office [34:13].
  • “He’s a flawed person, no doubt about it, but he fights for traditional American values… as long as you’re not in jail, they’ll elect you.” – Paxton supporter David Lapp, quoted by Ryan [32:36].
  • Faced (and narrowly overcame) electoral challenges from George P. Bush and John Cornyn despite these vulnerabilities; still currently under multiple investigations.

• Senate Race Now Competitive:

  • For first time, several polls show Democrat James Talarico leading or within reach.
    • Recent Texas Public Opinion Research poll: Talarico 45%, Paxton 40%; even among non-college educated voters (traditionally Paxton’s base), Talarico leads by 9% [36:15].
  • “There is evidence that Paxton's longevity… is at its end. Maybe there’s too much scandal for him to stand up next to someone as squeaky and nice as Talarico.” – Ryan [36:35]
  • Talarico with strong fundraising advantage ($21M vs. Paxton’s <$8M).
  • Caution: undecided voters could still break for Paxton; and other races (e.g., Ted Cruz’s Senate bid) don’t look nearly as close.

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4. National Political News: Crackdowns and Scandals

[06:43 – 09:01 ; 39:29 – 46:55]

• Press Freedom Attacks:

  • Trump administration subpoenaed journalists' families over Air Force One security leaks; congressional Republicans subpoenaing left-leaning outlets (Breakthrough News, People's Forum) for alleged ties to foreign powers and left-wing activism.
  • “There's this campaign against Cuba-aligned left organizations and PSL-linked anti-imperialist protest spaces.” – Garrison [08:40]

• House Ethics, Abusive GOP Candidates:

  • Speaker Mike Johnson dismissed domestic violence claims against Reps Max Miller and Corey Mills, signaling further tolerance for GOP misconduct.
  • Details of Max Miller's alleged spousal and child abuse, libel suit tactics, and “open secrets” in Washington [41:33–45:31].

• Other Notable Races:

  • Michigan Senate primary: Haley Stevens pressed on $60M AIPAC and utility industry support; opponent Dr. Abdul Al Sayed focuses on corporate influence [39:29].
  • Wisconsin gubernatorial: Francesca Hong pulling ahead.
  • Close coverage promised as primaries approach.

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5. Data Centers, “Campus Guardian Angel,” and Surveillance

[09:01–14:11]

• Drones in U.S. Schools:

  • Texas company "Campus Guardian Angel" is trialing remote-activated drone swarms for school security—capable of launching mace, pepper balls, and “glass breakers.”
    • “They want to send a drone swarm to stop a school shooter? …The thing is, with a drone swarm, it can’t be a coward, which has historically been the issue for the cops.” – James [09:43]
  • Drones pitched for both school shooter scenarios and general discipline—raising concerns about abuse for minor misbehavior.
    • “I don’t know. I don’t think this is going to wind up saving as many lives as it is causing drone-related assaults in public schools…” – Ryan [10:41]
  • Hosts react skeptically to demo footage: drones miss targets, questionable effectiveness, danger to bystanders.

• Facebook’s Louisiana Data Center:

  • Meta building a massive, likely doomed $50B data center in a Louisiana floodplain.
    • Local and state officials provided tax exemptions and subsidies to attract Meta; teachers and officials awarded huge bonuses.
    • “It’s really just legal bribery… No chance anyone is going to protest or stop the construction… but when the next hurricane hits, it’s the locals who’ll pay.” – Ryan [16:17]
  • Contract allows Meta to abandon the project after several years, potentially devastating local economy [17:44].

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6. Immigration ‘Public Charge’ Rule Rollback

[17:44 – 21:04]

• Trump to rescind Biden-era 2022 “public charge” rule (effective September 18).
  • Previous definition only considered cash assistance or institutionalization; new likely guidance may be much stricter, possibly including food, housing, benefits like SNAP, WIC, free school meals.
  • “They could draw this… to rent controlled housing even… an extremely broad interpretation could be very bad for people looking to adjust their status.” – James [19:42]
• Implications: lots of uncertainty for immigrants seeking to adjust status; host urges legal counsel.
  • “This is something you should discuss with your immigration lawyer if that pertains to you.” [20:44]

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7. Legal Case: Privacy and the Activist’s “Duress Password”

[59:40 – 72:22]

• Samuel Tunick, Atlanta Activist, Targeted Over GrapheneOS Phone Wipe:
  • Tunick, associated with ‘Defend the Atlanta Forest’, indicted for allegedly “destroying” his phone’s data via a duress password while detained by CBP/FBI at the airport [59:52].
    • “This is a first-of-its-kind case, focusing on an extreme privacy feature of Graphene OS…” – Garrison [59:42]
  • Authorities questioned him about protest affiliations; denied his requests for a lawyer and never Mirandized him.
    • “When it comes to immigration and customs, right, it's a whole different ball game. And we have search authority; we don't need a warrant.” – CPB officer [65:22]
  • The legal gray area:
    • Was it “destruction of evidence” if the duress password simply deleted encryption keys?
    • Was the wipe voluntary or triggered by agents?
      • “This is a case that could become Supreme Court precedent over time… a very new frontier in digital privacy and the law.” – Garrison [71:26]
    • EFF resources recommended for anyone concerned [70:47].
  • Case is ongoing; outcome could set a major U.S. legal precedent for tech and privacy at borders.

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8. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• "You hate it when you're dry snitched on by the company that bribed you." – Ryan [27:05]
• “They want to send a drone swarm to stop a school shooter? Yeah, that’s what they wanted to.” – Garrison [09:43]
• “He’s a flawed person, no doubt about it, but he fights for traditional American values. … As long as you’re not in jail, they’ll elect you,” – Texas voter on Ken Paxton [32:36]
• “The regime agent [Iran] also knew when her husband was being deported and to where.” – James [56:00]
• “This could become a very influential case going forward.” – Garrison on the GrapheneOS/duress password case [71:26]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• U.S./Iran/Saudi Military Escalations: [03:09–05:35]
• Drone Swarms for School Security: [09:01–14:11]
• Facebook Data Center in Louisiana: [14:11–17:44]
• Immigration ‘Public Charge’ Change: [17:44–21:04]
• Ken Paxton’s Senate Race: [24:45–39:28]
• Max Miller Abuse Allegations: [41:33–45:31]
• ICE/Iranian Official Collusion: [50:04–59:40]
• GrapheneOS Privacy Case: [59:40–72:22]

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Tone & Style

True to It Could Happen Here’s signature blend of dark humor, skepticism, and factual deep dives. Hosts trade banter and gallows humor ("I can't see this being used to harass teenagers for doing things every teenager does" – James [13:59]), but never at the expense of the gravity of suffering (especially for asylum seekers and abuse survivors).

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Conclusion

This week’s Executive Disorder is a stark cross-section of collapse and legal grey zones: U.S. complicity in the endangerment of refugees, shocking levels of corruption and abuse among Republican officials, and unprecedented legal strategies being used to target activists/practitioners of digital privacy. The crew promises continued coverage of these evolving, often chilling, stories—as they shape what remains of the country’s rights and future.

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For further reading, the team recommends:

• Court listener documents (asylum testimonies)
• EFF’s guides to border searches and digital rights
• Reporting on the upcoming legal decisions in the GrapheneOS privacy case

Legal defense fundraising for Samuel Tunick linked in episode notes.

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[James Stout]

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[Garrison Davis]

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[James Stout]

this and Sophie has been excommunicated.

[Garrison Davis]

Sophie said something that Robert will not let us repeat.

[Ryan Cooper]

Yeah, we legally can't repeat it. You'd all go to prison and we would be right to send you there.

[Garrison Davis]

West Wing as in the TV show? Yeah, this episode we're covering the week of July 22nd to July 29th. James, some small things to start.

[James Stout]

Yeah, let's do it. So today on the day that we are recording, which is 29 July, the United States and Saudi forces conducted strikes inside Iraq at what they are calling Iran backed terrorists. This comes after a Iraqi National Security advisor earlier this week suggested that Ukraine was responsible for strikes inside Iraq, which is a thing that isn't true. Iran again attempted to target US bases in Jordan today. But at the time of recording the US military is reporting that its missiles were all intercepted. Iranian strikes on Kurdistan have continued. And Reuters is reporting that Iran is soon to receive Chinese shoulder fired manpads, its man portable air defense system. Women can use them too. Probably not in Iran. But these are part of what Reuters is saying is a recently signed deal between the two states. China of course denying it, but that would be very interesting right, Considering that it was a shoulder launched manpads that shot down the jet that triggered the massive CESAR mission a few months ago.

[Ryan Cooper]

Yeah, it's always funny when, when something comes around like this in the history of like military colonialist adventures overseas. You know it wasn't so long ago that we were sending manpads into Afghanistan and the Soviets were going, oh no, all of our helicopters.

[Tony Ayo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Cooper]

And yeah, it's just beautiful how cyclical nature is.

[James Stout]

Yeah. Here we are. Finally I want to talk about the TPS temporary protective status for Haitian people. So a few weeks ago on our Supreme Court special we spoke about the court that effectively ended this protected status. Right. And it is set to expire this week. We know that this will impact as many as 350,000 people are going with a number from Haitian bridge alliance there. A lot of these people are going back is not an option. It's not in any way going to be safe for them or they just don't simply have a place to go back to there. Many of these people will have US citizen children who therefore will not lose cps. Right. But it's unclear what exactly Or I mean, I think the administration probably doesn't give a shit what happens to their children. I'm going to keep reporting on this. There are already rumors of ICE raids targeting Haitian people. I'm going to try and get some folks on from HBA or one of the other advocacy organizations. But I'm going to wait a little bit just to see how things play out in the next couple of days. But I'm afraid whatever happens won't be great.

[Garrison Davis]

The House approved the $1.15 trillion 2027 National Defense Authorization act and a 216 to 212 vote, largely on party lines, though six Democrats voted in support. The version of the bill that passed includes section 219 which expands cooperation between the US and Israeli militaries, specifically the co development of military technology and joint training and information sharing to deploy jointly developed technology. The budget contains 750 million for these US Israel joint programs. The bills currently installed in the Senate Court documents revealed that last October the Trump administration canceled nearly $8 billion of clean energy grants by explicitly targeting states whose Electoral college votes went to Kamala Harris in 2024 or who have two senators who caucus with the Democrats, that is Georgia. And lawyers for the Department of Energy just explicitly laid this out in court doc saying that's how these grants were selected. Was was on these political lines.

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[James Stout]

Incredible.

[Garrison Davis]

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[Ryan Cooper]

I've got a fun thing to talk about.

[James Stout]

All right, let's do it. What's fun?

[Ryan Cooper]

There's an article in the Guardian that just came out July 28th that is about this new company based out of Austin called Campus Guardian angel, which is taking lessons from the Ukrainian war and applying them to US public schools, specifically in Ukraine. They've seen a lot of luck in stopping breaches of areas of like the front of trenches and stuff using waves of small drones.

[Garrison Davis]

Oh, I've seen this video. I know what you're talking about.

[James Stout]

I haven't. Hit me with it. Come on, I want to see this.

[Ryan Cooper]

These are waves of drones that can launch mace and pepper balls and have like, they've got glass breakers so they can fly through windows.

[Garrison Davis]

They want to fucking send a drone swarm to stop a school shooter? Yeah, that's what they wanted to.

[Ryan Cooper]

Yeah, yeah.

[James Stout]

The thing is with a drone swarm, it can't be a coward, which has historically been an issue for the cops. Right.

[Ryan Cooper]

It is true. This could work better. The problem is that in terms of actually stopping school shooters, this actually might be a lot more effective than calling the cops. I'm not going to say I don't think it's possible that this could work.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Ryan Cooper]

But everything about the like press around this says, tells me this company is also billing itself as a way that like school administrators can use drones to fuck up kids who misbehave.

[James Stout]

Sure. No, I can see that being a.

[Ryan Cooper]

That's, that's kind of the what I'm expecting. Right.

[James Stout]

Yeah, yeah. You're going to get maced by a drone.

[Ryan Cooper]

I want to read a quote from the article here. They could be flown from thousands of miles away and support two way communication through an embedded speakerphone, allowing the company's response team to engage Verbally with a threat or communicate to teachers and school staff. Campus Guardian Angels website stated, this allows our team in our op center to communicate to law enforcement officers verbally with messages such as follow me and I'll take you to the suspect or open the door and we'll go in and clear the room and I'll tell you what you see. And it's the whole thing about going after the suspect that I'm like, I can see this also just these drones being swarmed after some kids smoking pot or somebody who has a suspicious looking backpack to some shitty AI like visual identification system because you can't have a guy on the cameras at all times. I don't know. I don't think this is going to wind up saving as many lives as it is causing drone related assaults in public schools, but I guess we'll see.

[James Stout]

Fascinating. The video's great. Yeah, I want to see the video. Can I?

[Garrison Davis]

You should look up the video.

[James Stout]

Campus Guardian Angel. Let's get a live react.

[Ryan Cooper]

Campus Guardian Angel. There you go.

[James Stout]

When I hear that phrase, the first thing that comes to my mind is pedophile. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking when I hear some. Okay, watch video. The first active shooter suppression service. I'm sure that's true. All right, here we go. Got a couple of cops. Yeah, it's still blurry. I still can't quite. It's still. Wow, it's having a long thing. Okay, here we are. Here we are. Okay.

[Ryan Cooper]

Yeah, this does make me think about what if the latency's bad between the camera and the drone operator Flying an armed drone through a public school.

[James Stout]

Okay, we're here. We're watching a bunch of news clips. A bald man is giving a talk.

[Ryan Cooper]

That's the Navy SEAL who runs the company.

[James Stout]

Okay, I see. Okay.

[Ryan Cooper]

Wow.

[James Stout]

The drones are moving down the corridor.

[Ryan Cooper]

Fuck me.

[James Stout]

Here they come. They sit in some little boxes. There's a cop. Cop has a gun. Oh, there's someone in a balaclava. He's surrendering to the drones.

[Ryan Cooper]

He's down, surrendering to the drones.

[James Stout]

He's on the edge.

[Ryan Cooper]

They took that right from front. Footage of like Russian soldiers surrendering to drones so they don't get murdered.

[James Stout]

These guys. Ok, this guy's playing a shooter. He has a BB gun. A couple of drones have got him cornered. He's not shooting at them though.

[Ryan Cooper]

Cowards. Cowards.

[James Stout]

Okay, here's someone from Seminole County Public Schools. So the drones live in a little box and it opens and I like that they've done Blue lighting. It's like a white box with blue lighting. Like, it's very gamer.

[Ryan Cooper]

It's a little drone carrier.

[James Stout]

Yeah, a little. Little drone box. Here he comes. He's breached through the window.

[Ryan Cooper]

Whoa, they're fucking up a dummy.

[Garrison Davis]

That's the cliff. Yeah.

[James Stout]

Look at it go. They've missed. They've missed a few times, I notice if you look closely. Yeah, way off. He's fucking way off. All right. I know. I don't trust these drones about this. They're like, what if there was a child nearby?

[Garrison Davis]

No, literally, that was my. My first thought is like, this just makes it easier for cops to shoot people accidentally.

[James Stout]

Yeah. Or an AI drone to shoot someone by accident. They're going after the same dude again. He's running away. Oh, he's cornered. He's gone to ground. He's surrendering.

[Garrison Davis]

Wait, it's probably guys that couldn't pass the cop exam that are the ones flying the drones. Yeah.

[James Stout]

In this pov, it looks like someone's manually firing because the drone has, like, a quick crosshairs in its video. Now we're seeing the drones pov. They're coming out their little box. That's the Navy SEAL in through the window. And he's surrendering as this shooter. Again, he's surrendering. They haven't really engaged with the hypothetical of what if the shooter doesn't surrender to the drone? Oh, there's flying laps around him.

[Tony Ayo]

Whoa.

[James Stout]

They took out the whole dummy. The whole dummy fell over. Okay.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah, that's the clip.

[James Stout]

Wild stuff. Well, Nick, they can strobe them as well, I guess. Wow, there's a lot of cops in tactical gear. None of them have gone in. They've sent the drone in instead.

[Ryan Cooper]

Yeah, that seems realistic.

[James Stout]

Okay. Yeah, the guy's, like, baffled by the number of targets and just lies down, surrenders. This is great. I can't see this being used to harass teenagers for doing things that every teenager does.

[Ryan Cooper]

So I wanted to talk a little bit about an article that just came out very recently in the New York Times about a metadata center in Louisiana. Now, obviously, I've talked about data centers a few times in the fairly recent past. I did a dedicated article on the fight against or the different kind of grassroots activism campaigns against new data center construction. One of the ones that is not really in any danger of being canceled through local protest is a massive Facebook data center in Richland Parish that was originally planned to be, like, a $10 billion data center and has now ballooned to, like, a $50 billion project. Facebook was not originally planning to construct in Louisiana. They were taking bids back during the Biden administration. I don't think the state was really on the map, but officials, particularly in the very poor county of Richland Parish, had a problem, which is that they had leased 1400, 440 acres to Toyota to build a factory, but Toyota had decided not to around 2006, I think, in part because the factory was proven to be uninsurable because it's a floodplain. So basically, they were like, we're not going to spend billions of dollars in a factory we literally can't insure in a place that's famous for having infrastructure destroyed by hurricanes.

[James Stout]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Cooper]

So Richland Paris had a problem. The area was already economically depressed. And Entergy, which is a Louisiana state power company, also had an issue, which is that they were not making enough money. So their CEO, Philip May, decided he wanted to put Louisiana through as a dark horse contender for this massive fucking Meta data center.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Ryan Cooper]

And they wound up winning. And they basically wound up winning through promising to be corrupt on behalf of Meta. Right. There was a bill being pushed at the start of 2024 because, like, the thing they offered Meta a bunch of incentives, and the only thing they couldn't offer them was like, a tax break on the different kind of materials you buy when you're building a data center. And everywhere else that Meta was considering had already offered those. So In April of 2024, Richard Nelson, the state Revenue Secretary, was kind of helping to shepherd through a bill that was a tax rebate for fiber optic equipment, and they just wound up changing it in two months to a massive tax rebate for data center equipment.

[James Stout]

Amazing.

[Ryan Cooper]

Super fucking corrupt. But also, here's the thing. Nobody in Richland Parish really cares because these people are incredibly fucking poor. And Facebook is bribing basically the entire county. There's some sort of local law they have that if there's like, an overfunding in county tax revenue, then, like, teachers get a bunch of money. And so, because of how much money Facebook has pumped in, a bunch of teachers in the parish got like a $50,000 bonus. And that's like the lowest level of what is effectively, like, legal bribery going on at every level of life in the parish. So I. There's no chance, really, that anyone is going to protest or stop the construction of this. People are enthusiastic because Meta has turned a firehose of money on one of the poorest counties in the United States. The problem is that, as I've said, the project is really Obviously fucking doomed. Again, it's uninsurable because it's in a fucking floodplain. And the actual like text of the arrangement that Meta inked basically gives them the ability to bounce and leave the project within like four or five years, leaving Intergy and a bunch of other Louisiana interests on the hook for this entire massive project if say, a hurricane comes through and renders the entire site inoperable. So it seems like that's kind of thing that's going to cause a massive problem and like destroy the local economy at some point. But there's so much money being slalomed out to people right now that I don't think anything's going to stop that. So I guess we, we hope that the obvious thing doesn't happen, but I kind of think it's going to anyway. Louisiana Nice.

[James Stout]

Let's talk about the public charge rule. So the Trump administration has announced that it will do away on September 18th with the DHS rule on public charge determination. That rule came into effect in 2022. So under the Biden administration they're not making a new rule at this time, they're taking away the old rule. So what we will have to go off now is a text in the Immigration Nationality act and presumably they will issue some guidance soon. Right. Whatever guidance they issue is likely to be more restrictive than what we had in 2022 rule. Right. They did publish a public notice about this last year. So we knew that this was coming, that they had planned to rescind this rule and we should talk about what public charge is. We can go back to the 1999 guidance and that's what was clarified in 2022 for a definition. That guidance says that someone who is likely to be primarily dependent on the government for subsistence, as demonstrated by either the receipt of public cash assistance for income maintenance or institutionalization for long term care at government expense, can be inadmissible to the United States or ineligible for permanent residency. This doesn't apply to some permanent residency applications like sij, especially immigrant juvenile green card applications, T or U visas, asylees or refugees. Some other categories, including those in the Violence Against Women Act. Public charge has generally been understood to mean cash benefits. Right. So SSSI or TANF would be the ones that like be generally understood to be that if somebody received those dhs, I guess it would be USCIS could find that they would be inadmissible. Somebody who is found inadmissible for this reason previously could post a bond and still be admitted. Right. Just the bond is basically saying I'm not going to be like a burden on the United States state. Right.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah.

[James Stout]

We're not exactly clear what they're going to do next, but we can look at the DHS presser for some clues which says aligning immigration with law and congressional intent, that aliens of the United States be self reliant and not dependent on taxpayer funded government benefits. This could be really bad. Right. There are a lot of different benefits people take advantage of. To include free school meals, to include things like snap, to include wic. Right. To include rent controlled housing even. Right. Like they could draw this. I think what they're probably going to move towards is a sort of looking at the whole case thing as opposed to a looking for specific things in the past. Another thing that we should understand is that this is forward facing. Right. It's not just have they used this, it's are they likely to. An extremely broad interpretation of this could be very bad for people. Definitely looking to adjust their status. Right. So this is something we will keep an eye on. It's not ending yet. I just want to reinforce that it's on September 18th. So for people who are in these proceedings, this is something you should discuss with your immigration lawyer if that pertains to you. I will include links to all the government press releases and the Federal Register pieces about this if you want to read it yourself. Should we take a break?

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah, I think so.

[Ryan Cooper]

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[Adam Devine]

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[Chelsea Handler]

Yep.

[Adam Devine]

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[Blake Anderson]

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[Garrison Davis]

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[Ryan Cooper]

And we're back. I want to talk about Texas. And normally that's not a hopeful thing when I say I'm going to talk about Texas. In fact, about 80% of the time when I come on to talk about Texas, it's because either someone in Texas committed some sort of horrible violent crime or everyone's getting excited about an election and I need to tell them not to because it's Texas.

[James Stout]

Sure.

[Ryan Cooper]

This time I'm here to tell you there's an election in Texas you might want to get excited about. The election between Ken Paxton and Talarico.

[Chelsea Handler]

Fuck.

[Ryan Cooper]

What's his first name? I want to say Tommy or James Talarika. The election between Kin Pax and Tommy Talarika.

[James Stout]

I can't think about that fucking grifter.

[Ryan Cooper]

I can't stop every time I hear his name. But no, James Talarico is not a grifter. James Talarico might be a US Senator in the very near future because Ken Paxton is not doing too well. And if you aren't Texan, the name Kim Paxton may not immediately conjure dread and disgust, but it should. I would be hard pressed to name a more scandal ridden, corrupt and evil elected leader in the United States, and that includes Donald Trump. Before we get into Paxton's latest race for a U.S. senate seat, I want to tell you a little bit more about Ken, friend of the pod. Ken Paxton. K Pax, as we call him. I don't think anyone actually saw the movie K Pax, so that's not really a joke that's gonna land but didn't

[James Stout]

know that was a movie.

[Ryan Cooper]

It was a movie, James.

[James Stout]

Okay.

[Ryan Cooper]

In 2008, when Paxton was a new Texas House member for McKinney, where my mom used to teach, the AP reported that he and another state represent had been accused by ethics watchdog Fred Lewis of greasing the skids to settle a contract with watchguard, a company that made in car video systems that record video directly to DVD for like the cops and stuff. Paxton and Byron Cook, two state representatives, were both found to have disclosed ownership in Watchguard. But in Paxton's case, he didn't disclose his ownership until well after his 2008 personal financial statement was filed. Shortly after the deal was made, Watchguard net earnings increased year over year by 250%, and Paxton and Cook sold their shares of the company for an undisclosed amount. But a lot of money. Paxton denies any knowledge of the company's State contracts and claims he did nothing shady. However, per the barbed wire quote, Paxton claimed he had no knowledge of the company's state contracts at the time, which he would have been required to disclose with the Texas Ethics Commission under state law. However, Associated Press reporter that Watchguard's website boasted that the company was held by an influential shareholder group that includes three state representatives.

[James Stout]

Perfect.

[Ryan Cooper]

You hate it when you're dry snitched on by the company that bribed you. Now, according to the Wall Street Journal, after coming under scrutiny, Paxton shifted his investments, including those in Watchguard, into a blind trust. A blind trust is an account managed by a third party trustee without the beneficiary's knowledge to prevent a conflict of interest. However, the Journal uncovered text between Paxton and the trustee, who is a friend of his, concerning stock trades in 2020, a violation of the blind nature of the agreement. Paxton received $2.2 million from his investment.

[Garrison Davis]

So that's more like a see through trust.

[Ryan Cooper]

Yeah, yeah, it's more of a see through trust. Not so blind. It's more just here you're committing a series of crimes. So he's going to get charged with securities fraud for this, and that case is going to wind on for a while, but not long. You know, kind of actually in the middle of this whole process of corruption in 2013, when he's a state senator, he's entering the courthouse. Like, state courthouse.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah.

[Ryan Cooper]

And a lawyer who'd just been ahead of him in line at, like, the metal detector leaves behind a thousand dollar Mont Blanc penny in the metal detector tray. And Ken Paxton steals it. And he's on video stealing it. Like the Dallas Morning News gets access to the video and publishes it. It's really funny.

[James Stout]

What a series of events.

[Ryan Cooper]

Yeah. In like 2014, Ken runs for and wins Attorney General of the state of Texas. And his opponent in the campaign, Justin Nelson, runs video ads using the footage.

[Garrison Davis]

It is really funny to have top cop be like the most corrupt criminal in Texas politics.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah.

[James Stout]

And like, really dedicated to it.

[Ryan Cooper]

You know, that's the biggest, craziest criminal, too.

[James Stout]

Just seeing an opportunity and taking it without a second thought is really beautiful. Yeah.

[Ryan Cooper]

Now, despite this, Paxton was still narrowly elected, thanks in part to spending twice as much as his opponent on the campaign.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah.

[Ryan Cooper]

In 2022, Paxton faced a primary challenge from George P. Bush, one of the C list Bushes and nephew of the most recent former President Bush.

[Chelsea Handler]

Huh.

[Ryan Cooper]

This would prove to be one of Paxton's easier victories, even though he had been charged with and was still under investigation for securities Fraud, as well as at this point, a separate federal investigation for alleged corruption in favor of an Austin real estate developer. I'm going to quote now from an AP article by Thomas Beaumont, quote, paxton responded by portraying himself as a Trump era Republican and Bush is the heir to a privileged political legacy.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Ryan Cooper]

Pro Paxton organization spent more than $20 million about TW as much as Bush and his allies. The race went into a runoff in which Paxton defeated Bush by 34 percentage points. So just a panting on behalf of George P. Bush. One of the worst ass kickings in Texas state political history. It's beautiful stuff.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

I mean this is a very, very clear sort of like neocon versus the new, like mega Republican Party matchup in which the neocons have just no, no ground to stand on.

[Ryan Cooper]

Well, and it's, it's also just like purely on like the shallowest basis of like what sounds good to a dummy. George W. Bush. W is a nickname that's trustworthy. George P. Bush.

[James Stout]

P. Bush.

[Ryan Cooper]

Nobody wants to be Bush anywhere. It's just a bad idea.

[James Stout]

I do think 20 years of war in the Middle east have maybe, maybe like dropped the value of George X. Bush stock there being George Bush anywhere in the neighborhood. 20, 30, if we're doing George Bush's,

[Garrison Davis]

I guess guys, we're talking about Texas. I mean, even.

[Tony Ayo]

Still.

[Garrison Davis]

Even there.

[James Stout]

Yeah, even in Texas, a whole lot of people from Texas died in wars that really we didn't need to have actually.

[Ryan Cooper]

I mean, even when Texans were voting for him, people had a tendency to say the man was all hat, no cattle. So I'm not super surprised about this. But anyway, Paxton beats Bush handily in the primary and then he runs against Democrat Rochelle Garza in the general. And Garza entered the campaign with a third 300 page opposition research bio on Paxton, but also faced a really difficult quandary, which is like, what can you say about Ken that voters haven't already heard and evidently decided they don't care about? Right?

[James Stout]

Yeah, yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

This is like the same thing with Trump, Right? It's his, like, yeah.

[Ryan Cooper]

How do you attack?

[Garrison Davis]

He has all of this, all of this stuff that's fucked up that we all know about. Yeah, that like, is it worth just retreading all this? All the same stuff.

[Ryan Cooper]

No. And it just wasn't right. She loses too. Not by as badly as George B. Bush, obviously. And Paxton continues to cling to office and scandal. Now, in the years after his victory, his wife divorced him, citing the Bible, he was impeached by the state House. But then Acquitted by the Senate. His fraud case ended in 2024 with a judgment that he paid $300,000 in restitution. But through it all, he maintained enough Republican support to squeak by.

[Garrison Davis]

I mean, because he's. He's been very powerful as the Attorney General of that state and has done a lot to help the Republicans in that state. And, like, a lot of really ugly stuff has been done at the behest of and the help of Paxton.

[James Stout]

Yeah, he's wielded his power, and I'm

[Ryan Cooper]

leaving a lot of that out. I don't mean this as a comprehensive look at his past. We're kind of doing a greatest hits. I'm going to have to do a BTB on the fucker.

[James Stout]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Ryan Cooper]

Capex deserves it. So, in that AP article, Thomas Beaumont interviewed two Paxton supporters, David and Nancy Lapp, who are retired conservatives from Woolworth, Texas, or Wolfor, Texas. And quote from that article, they described him as a conservative warrior who has been a victim of persecution. He's had his share of scandals, and almost all of them have, so it's not necessarily disqualifying anymore. Said David Lapp, 76. He's a flawed person, no doubt about it, but he fights for traditional American values.

[James Stout]

Oh, man.

[Ryan Cooper]

He added that nowadays, as long as you're not in jail, they'll elect you,

[James Stout]

which is very true.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, yeah.

[James Stout]

That's not a wrong statement.

[Ryan Cooper]

But also, you.

[James Stout]

You'll elect him, David. Yeah. Yes.

[Ryan Cooper]

You're making a choice. Now, there is much more to the tale of Ken Paxton's scum and villainy, and this isn't an episode of btv, so I'm gonna save us some time and just discuss arguably his worst and most famous call as Attorney General. Ken was elected after promising to be tough on crime and attacking his predecessors and opponents for being weak on crime. And then in 2025, a Waco attorney named Adam Hoffman went on trial for sexually abusing his son's best friend during multiple sleepovers from the age of 6 or 7 up to age 10. Jesus. The victim initially told a forensic he believed Hoffman had ejaculated over 1300 times in his presence. Hoffman denied the allegation, although they did. Like a semen's. They looked for semen and didn't find any. So, like, I don't know. But also, he could have cleaned stuff. Who knows? Hoffman denied the allegations and called the boy a liar. The jury wound up deadlocked, so the judge ordered them to keep deliberating. And long story short, it becomes a mistrial because the victim did not want to testify a second time. Paxton's prosecutor struck a plea deal with Hoffman. So Hoffman pleads guilty, but the plea deal includes no jail time or registry for as a sex offender for Hoffman. So that's pretty fucked up. And obviously it's Paxton's people doing this, but Paxton's the Attorney General. Yeah. So this, this really grosses a lot of people out. And the case becomes a major avenue attack when he goes a primary challenge by John Cornyn earlier this year in the Senate race, Right?

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah. He challenges Cornyn, the incumbent for Senate.

[Ryan Cooper]

The attention around this caused critics of Paxton to look into other cases, per the Texas Tribune, quote, for instance, attack ads from Cornyn's allies highlight the case of a man originally charged with child sex trafficking who received a deal for a probation sentence. And Judge Roy Sparkman brought up another case in open court last month, noting Paxton had also taken over a murder for hire case that he oversaw, which resulted in a misdemeanor plea and a four day jail sentence. And of course, Paxton still beat Cornyn. So you could be forgiven for being like, what could take fucking this guy out, right? At this point, what could matter? And I'll be honest, I was really hesitant to have any hope about this race until extremely recently. But within the last few days, a bunch of new polling has come out that makes this look not just competitive, but winnable. The most striking example of evidence, you know, in favor of that would be a recent Texas public opinion research, Pollution, that showed Talarico leading Paxton 45% to 40 after multiple other polls had consistently shown a nail biter of a race. Now, TPOR is officially a nonpartisan research group, but it is run by a Democratic strategist, so there's reason to suspect some favoritism here. The Texas Tribune, in a separate article, had this to say about the survey. Quote, the group surveyed 1,048 likely voters between July 15 and July 17 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.4 percentage points. Of those poll respondents, 53% voted for Donald Trump and 42% voted for Kamala Harris in 2024, making the sample only slightly bluer than the 2024 electorate, which favored Trump by a 14 point margin. In Texas. Trump carried Texas by 5.6 percentage points in 2020, two years after the last midterm held there during his presidency. And a recent New York Times Sienna poll from June found an overall tie in the race, 47 to 47%, with Talarico winning about 5% of Republicans. The most significant data from this recent batch of polling that has me hopeful though is that Talarico seems to be doing really well among non college educated voters, which is traditionally like the strongest group for Paxton. Yeah, that's the group that has carried him over the line consistently. And from that same article, quote, perhaps the biggest outlier was Talarico's lead among non college educated voters who favored the Democrat by 9 percentage points, 45% to 36%. He led by 1 percentage point among those with at least a bachelor's degree. I don't want to suggest that the other races in Texas are going to go this well. Right. Ted Cruz is currently about 18 points ahead of his opponent Colin Allred right now among non college educated Texans in 2024.

[James Stout]

Man.

[Ryan Cooper]

Yeah, like so I don't have a lot of faith that this is going to extend past Talarico versus Paxton, but there is evidence that like Paxton's longevity with the specific group that's carried him past the line is at its end. Like maybe there's too much scandal for him to stand up next to someone who seems as like relatively squeaky and nice as Talarico. Now there's other things to credit Talarico's success for. One of them is that he's doing a lot better than Paxton in terms of like, money Right now, as of the most recent disclosures, Talarico's campaign has about $21 million on hand. Paxton has less than 8. And if you remember every other election I've got or every other campaign of Paxton's I've run through here, he usually had like a 2 to 1 advantage in funding over his opponents. Yeah, so the fact that that's kind of falling apart for him too suggests this might be a really winnable. Now there are some reasons to doubt that too. Most polls I've seen show a number of undecided Republicans large enough to close the gap or a tie between the two candidates led by Paxton. And if that group all breaks for kin, and historically they're likely to, things could be really close or wind up in favor of Paxton. Right. One of the polls found about 14% of voters of all political stripes are unsure of their picks. And among undecided voters, it looks like Paxton has the most room to grow. About 19% of that block said they lean towards Republican compared to 10% to lean towards Talarico. But most of them were just totally on the fence, or at least that's what they said. So a lot is going to depend on how those people Break. I'm not saying this is definitely going to go Tellarico's way, but if you're talking about like what is a race where maybe the Democratic Party might want to actually invest money in, I'd say here this thing seems winnable. And I don't say that about Texas races often.

[Garrison Davis]

It is a very particular matchup. Yeah, Paxton has a lot of unique vulnerabilities. Tyler Coastal's doing very well in polls for Latino voters, up like 45 points ahead of Paxton. And that will be very crucial, especially considering ice like that's going to be a big factor in this race. Yeah, there was an ICE killing in Texas just a few weeks ago. Certainly a lot of funding could come to Paxton towards the end of the race. Sure, the campaign finesse ratio could could change dramatically over time. But I do wonder if the sort of strategy from the GOP right now, which is to like paint, paint Talarico very early on is this like you know, woke gender ideology maniac will kind of run a little bit hollow now that Trump is in charge and Republicans control all branches of government and the sort of like economic issues that can not be blamed on like woke liberals sending, you know, money to sex changes in prison. It's going to be an interesting race. Very close.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

Another close race next Tuesday, the Michigan Senate primary with I see Israel in my dreams. Haley Stevens versus Dr. Abdul Al said they had their last last debate on on Monday. Elsie had continually hit Stevens for her corporate funding, $60 million of outside spending, $46 million of APAC funding and the the moderator was really going after Stevens for this too, asking if if all this APAC funding will result in Stevens quote unquote doing their bidding, referring to APAC and like the pro Israel lobby.

[James Stout]

It's kind of interesting.

[Garrison Davis]

And she also lied about receiving funding from the local utility company during the debate. So early voting for that's already started the primaries next Tuesday. We'll cover that on next Executive disorder. Francesca Hong in the Wisconsin gubernatorial race also had a debate on Tuesday. Had not seen that yet but she is really pulling ahead in polls right now. But that that primary is still a few weeks away. But to stay on the topic of evil Republicans, on July 21, Speaker Mike Johnson dismissed domestic violence allegations against Republican representatives Max Miller and Corey Mills saying quote, well the key word there is allegation and then said that the House Ethics Committee would shake things out of those two reps. Max Miller of Ohio is facing re election in the midst of escalating legal issues including restraining Orders a defamation case and a custody battle. Max Miller's ex wife, Emily Morano of the America First Policy Institute and daughter of Ohio Senator Bernie Morano has accused Max Miller of abusing her and their daughter while investigating suspected child abuse. Morano told Bay Village police that Miller yelled and held a gun to her head after she turned on the lights to change their baby's diaper.

[James Stout]

Jesus.

[Garrison Davis]

According to a police report, Marano told police about another domestic violence incident from earlier this year where during a custody exchange, Miller, quote, grabbed and threw her against the wall, which resulted in an obvious grab mark on her upper arm and bruising to her stomach and side where she hit the wall, unquote. This alleged incident also was in front of their daughter and the police report later states that Rono's daughter told her, quote, daddy kill you. Morano and Miller were married in 2022 and Morano filed for divorce in August of 2024 after telling Miller that she wants a divorce In June of 24, Rono alleged that he threw hot steaming water at her. In a recorded phone call, Miller admits to what he refers to as the water incident after his wife said on the call that he abused her and quote, poured a steaming hot water on her neck. On the call, Miller said that the, quote, unquote, water incident wasn't done with, quote, unquote, intent to hurt his wife. Morano told police she moved out of the house because she was, quote, unquote, scared of him. Now, all of these allegations came to light earlier this year after Morano discovered her two year old daughter's collarbone was broken after the child came back from Miller's house this past February. This prompted a cascade of investigations and back and forth court filings which eventually made their way into news reporting. A Bay Village police report investigating suspected child abuse stated that a child protection specialist found that the two year old's broken collarbone was accompanied by a bruise that, quote, appears to be in a handprint and appears to have been inflicted. According to another police report obtained by Mother Jones. Marano recounted her daughter saying, quote, daddy's house is scary. Miller, of course, denies all claims of abuse or domestic violence and has theorized that the broken collarbone was possibly caused by a seat belt.

[James Stout]

Why is a kid wearing a seat belt? Shouldn't they be in a car seat when they're two?

[Garrison Davis]

Yes, this was part of the investigation because Miller said this, okay. And he had to show police that he had properly installed a car seat. Right after news outlets reported on the spousal and child abuse allegations, Miller filed a defamation suit against his ex wife. And this is not the first time Miller has used a defamation suit to shut down allegations of abuse. In 2021, Stephanie Grisham, a former White House press secretary in Trump's first term, wrote in the Washington Post that her unnamed boyfriend from 2019 to 2020, quote, unquote, got physical with her, that their relationship, quote, unquote, turned abusive, and that her ex boyfriend had, quote, anger issues and a violent streak. These claims were later included in a book. But earlier that year, Politico reported that Max Miller, quote, pushed Grisham against a wall and slapped her in the face at his Washington apartment after she accused him of cheating on her, unquote. Max Miller sued Grisham for, quote, libelous and defamatory false statements made about him, but he dismissed the case in 2023 after agreeing to a settlement. Though Grisham is now suing Miller for breaking the settlement's NDA by publicly claiming that Grisham fabricated abuse allegations against him while defending himself against new allegations of abuse by his ex wife. Max Miller's abuse allegations have been a sort of open secret in Washington for a while. When, when George Santos was dealing with his whole thing a few years ago on the House floor, he referred to Max Miller as a woman beater.

[James Stout]

Huh.

[Garrison Davis]

And talked about how he didn't want the Republican Party to just turn into repeating media attacks against each other as he was being kicked out of Congress.

[James Stout]

Wild.

[Garrison Davis]

He is running for re election in Ohio.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

And Miller has maintained support from Republicans in Congress and it's been backed by the president for years. Let's go on a break and then discuss some more news.

[Tony Ayo]

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[Chelsea Handler]

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[Adam Devine]

Hey guys, have you ever found yourself craving a cold snack?

[Chelsea Handler]

Yep.

[Adam Devine]

Do you even know what a cold snack is?

[Blake Anderson]

I do.

[Adam Devine]

Well, some of you may have noticed I've been wearing a Montucky shirt on the video version of the podcast. And that's because Montucky makes my favorite cold snack. That's right. It's a cold snackable beer and summer is the best time to enjoy it.

[James Stout]

You're right.

[Garrison Davis]

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All right, we are back and I want to update people on the Iranian American Legal Defense Fund versus Rubio case we spoke about a few weeks ago. So I have reached out to Public Citizen about this and they haven't got back to me. I'd love to do an interview with them. I have worked with them before on some access to med stuff, so hopefully someone from Public Citizen will listen and reply. But we have learned a lot from the new filings in this case. One of the things we learned was that people were required by ICE to meet Iranian government officials, the very people they had fled to the USA to be safe and protected from. It seems that the person who met them was introduced as a consul. But Iran obviously doesn't have a consulate in the United States, right? They have the Iranian Interest section which is in the Pakistani Embassy. Embassy. This person had information about their cases. In other cases they were told they had to take calls from the Iranian Interest section and they wouldn't be allowed to return to their housing pod until they spoke to them on the phone. In one of these calls, the Iranian officials said they had a transcript of the person's credible fear interview. That is wild, right? So the credible fear interview is when people explain why they fear going back to where they have fled, I. E. What it is that they think the Iranian state in this case is going to do to them. So what the credible fear interview will have will have detailed for these people would have been their participation in Jin Amini protests. I saw that in several of the testimonies. I've also spoken to dozens of Iranian migrants who participate in those protests, were arrested, released, and realized that they were going to be arrested again and fled or fled before they were arrested or their participation in the Christian faith. You see that in a lot of the testimonies in this case if the Iranian government have them writing down they're Christians, they were distributing Bibles, they were evangelizing, like, it is absolutely not safe for these people to go back. Some of these meetings actually appear to have occurred right here in San Diego. The Otay Mesa Detention center facility. People were brought to the Iranian government official and the official then sat down with them and tried to persuade them to return to Iran. The official had a list of names of people who they were going to meet and they read it out. So even some people who weren't there, their names were read out. So it looks like the officials either selected these people or were told by ICE who these people were. One of the people names, the individual is Mr. Mehrabadi and he threatened that they would be sent to, quote, Africa. So this is the United States doing either its chain refoulment or it's sending people to third countries. Deportation. Right. We also see a lot about the current state of the asylum system in these declarations. One person attests that she has been and will be tortured in Iran. The judge responds to her that everyone gets tortured in Iran. In their interview with the quote, unquote consul, one person said they were told by the consul, even in the US if you are political, the same things can happen to you, which is very clearly a threat. Right. The regime agent also knew when her husband was being deported and to where. So he had that information before he met this woman. In another case, someone testified then ICE agent said, I will force you. This is my job. And this was with reference to signing self deportation papers. They cuffed the woman and then quote, he literally forced my fingerprint by forcing my finger to a stamp and then on a paper, no matter how much I tried to take back my finger, which is pretty wild. It's not the first time, I should add that we've heard the allegations of them doing exactly this. So many of the people in this document are women who have stories exactly like the Iranian women I met in the Darien Gap. Many of them also say they took that route. They went from Iran to either Venezuela or Brazil and then traveled north from there. They also give details of their detention conditions, which are predictably appalling. Right. With one writing quote, water here smells very bad and we are always itchy. We all have red dots on our skin that have also gone away on my body after I started antibiotics and then skipping a bit. The dental care here is unbelievably dangerous. Any happening with teeth and they only extract. The doctors here have already extracted three of my teeth and have told me they will extract another three more when my antibiotics are over. I have always taken care of my teeth. They also talk about the. I'll just quote from one of their. One of their statements here, this disclosure and then I'm adding this of asylum information to the Iranian government. Returning to the quote here has materially increased the likelihood that I will be detained, interrogated or tortured or killed if I ever return to Iran. Another said when I saw him talking about the Iranian consulate, I was disgusted with the US Government by forcing us to meet with agents of the regime, which I told my pod manager. Many of these people have been in detention for more than a year. It seems like most of these people entered in 2025. A member of staff at the Iranian Interest Section also called the Iranian American Legal Defense Fund and informed them that United States State Department had approached the Interest Section to ask for help getting rid of Iranian detainees. That. That's, that's a quote that last. Getting rid of the Iranian officials said they met monthly with ICE to select individuals for deportation and that ICE provided their asylum applications to the Iranians. At these meetings they said they met with someone of Indian descent with a Georgetown degree who is described as the General Director of the Middle East Section. The meeting stopped when the war with Iran began, but apparently they still deliver documents, or at least they were delivering documents in March. This call from the Iranian Interest Section to the IALDF is wild. It involves this Iranian official recounting, for instance, that on the first deportation flight in September of last year, two people cut their wrists with razors, presumably attempting to end their lives rather than go back to Iran. It also details how in many cases the United States can't get their the people's travel documents together because they fly via a third country to Iran. Right. There's no direct flights between the US And Iran and so these flights end up not being as full as the United States no doubt hopes. He also says that the clothing and state of the detainees were so poor that the Iranian government official purchased some clothing from Costco with his own money. He also said that at no point did the United States ask Iran to guarantee their well being in Iran. The official kind of posits himself as like intervening on behalf of the Iranian people to make sure that they're treated correctly. Right. Which is how generally one would expect the consular administration of a state to intervene on behalf of the citizens. This, though is different because these people are fleeing the very government that he represents. Right. I will keep covering This I will also link to the court listener page where you can read these testimonies. They're all handwritten. They can be a little harder to read sometimes, but there's some really shocking and upsetting stuff in there.

[Garrison Davis]

Forgive me if you've talked about this already, maybe this would help for some listeners too. Like, how does this relate to the asylum laws that the United States has? Like, have they been denied asylum in so called immigration courts and this is the process for removal? And how is that actually like decided? Because, like, these people seem to have like, in these testimonies you're reading very credible fears to the point where they're attempt like harming themselves to avoid going back to this state.

[James Stout]

Yeah. So it seems like most of these people entered after Trump came in with his day one effectively like southern border crossing asylum ban. Right. And so they are having to fight their cases from detention, which is what they are doing. In some cases they are already appealing because the government has found that they don't have credible fear or that they're otherwise not eligible for asylum. And the reason the IALDF knows about these people is that that is what it is doing as a nonprofit group is helping them fight, fight their cases. Sure, it shows a pretty fucking bleak situation. Like, people do still get asylum. I hear about it occasionally. You know, I hear from, from friends in, in the community who do court accompaniments. They occasionally have a success still. But with the way that the Trump administration is purging the ranks of immigration quote, unquote, judges, that's getting less and less likely. So these people are in that system. Many of them are either in ever spiraling delays, right. Because we have fewer and fewer of these judges because they're getting purged. More judges are coming on board now or they're already appealing or going through the cat process, convention against torture process. Right. These are the sort of asylum claims that are like in the bullseye of what an asylum claim is. Right. All of these people in there, I didn't want to read them out because I don't think there's any reason to traumatize people. Nearly all of them detail torture. Most of the women detail sexual abuse. They talk about the horrific things they went through on the way here. To like, this is like front and center of what you would think a textbook asylum case would be normally. And there are exemptions for some Christian minorities or religious minorities from Iran who are largely Christian people rating some of these visa bans. But these people didn't come that way. Right. They didn't come by applying for a visa. They came across the southern border. It's very possible that but one of the people in this case is somebody I met in the Darien Gap, that the timing would line up. It's been really fucking upsetting for me reading these things.

[Garrison Davis]

Thank you for that context. Earlier in this episode we talked about attacks on the First Amendment as a part of the Trump admins crackdown on the left. But before we close, I want to go over a novel case of state repression against an Atlanta based activist. This is a first of its kind case, focusing on an extreme privacy feature of Graphene os, an open source operating system for Android phones. This feature is known as a duress password, a special code that, when inputted into a phone's locked password screen, triggers a wipe of certain data on the phone. Last November, a federal grand jury indicted an Atlanta activist for allegedly wiping the data on his phone after being detained at the airport upon reentering the country in January of 2025. U.S. attorneys say this was in violation of Title 18 USC Section 2232A, I.e. the destruction or removal of property to prevent seizure. The short single paragraph indictment reads that the defendant, quote, did knowingly destroy, damage, waste, dispose of and otherwise take any action to delete the digital contents of a Google Pixel cellular phone for the purpose of preventing and impairing the government's lawful authority to take said property into its custody and control before and during the search for and seizure of property by Customs and Border Patrol Tactical Terrorism Response Team Supervisory Officer JC that's the name of the officer. Last week, this case had its first hearing, which was focused on a motion filed by the defense to suppress evidence and statements for violations of the Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Amendments. According to the motion, the FBI Atlanta Joint Terrorism Task Force coordinated with CPB to question and search U S. Citizen Samuel Tunick as he was returning to the United States from the Dominican Republic because of his associations with the Defend the Atlanta Forest Movement or Stop Cop City, which we have covered on this show. Basically, after arriving at the airport, CPB put Tunic in secondary inspection, where their Tactical Terrorism Response Team, quote, Proceeded to question Mr. Tunic, search Mr. Tunick's body and all his belongings, and insisted that he provide the password for his phone. Despite Mr. Tunick's request to speak with his lawyer and not engage in any further questioning, the officers insisted they could question Mr. Tunick and search his phone to determine whether he had child porn. Evidently, this was a pretext for a fishing expedition into Mr. Tunic's connections with the Defend the Atlanta Forest movement, unquote. Journalist Timothy Pratt reported in the Guardian that during last week's hearing, it was revealed that unbeknownst to Samuel Tunic, federal authorities had put him on a terrorism watch list and that a Homeland Security agent circulated an email three hours before Tunic arrived back in Atlanta containing his name and photo and indicated he was being investigated for, quote, unquote, suspected terrorism activities. I think it is important to mention that Samuel Tunick, to this point, has not been charged with terrorism and does not face any charges directly related to protest activity for Defend the Atlanta Forest or Stop Cop City. According to the defense's motion, Tunic early and repeatedly during questioning said that he would not speak without his lawyer. But the officers ignored these requests and never Mirandized Tunic. The motion states that the officers told him, quote, because you're refusing to talk, which is your right, we have the authority to go through your phone to see what we're looking for. After officers demanded his phone password a second time, the Tunic asked again why he wasn't allowed to call his lawyer. And the officers responded, quote, when it comes to immigration and customs, right, it's a whole different ball game. And we have search authority. We don't need a warrant, unquote.

[James Stout]

I'm not a lawyer. This is not legal advice. If this is something you are concerned about, then you should seek out legal counsel. I'm just going to give you my best understanding of it. This is a civil situation. Well, it's also a criminal situation for him now. But like when you're entering the border, these are civil proceedings. And so that's why you're generally not Mirandised. Depending on where you enter the United States and what circuit you are in, they can inspect your telephone. My gem and understanding go to it is should you refuse to unlock that telephone, you can expect to leave without your telephone. The general way that they do this is for them to put the phone on airplane mode and then search it, because they are searching the device that is entering the United States, not the remote cloud stuff that is not on the device. Right. Because they are inspecting a thing that is crossing the border. Right. And that is within their purview in most circuits in the United States right now as federal immigration officers. And then the other thing I would add, at some point, I think we're going to see a Supreme Court case about it, and this might be the one.

[Blake Anderson]

Right.

[Garrison Davis]

That's very possible. Yeah.

[James Stout]

Albeit there'll be other elements to this case. Right. Like, as you said, like, who destroyed the data that was on the phone is something that's very much not legally clear to me. Right. Did graphene destroy the data? Did the BP agents, when they entered that passcode, destroy the data? Right. Or did the person destroy the data?

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah.

[Tony Ayo]

This.

[Garrison Davis]

This case is a whole bunch of legal gray areas. This is the first time we've seen a case about a duress password. The exact way this interrogation went and introduces a lot of questions on when exactly this regular, you know, border patrol questioning turned into an actual interrogation based on allegations of a crime.

[James Stout]

Right.

[Garrison Davis]

With this mention of child sexual abuse material.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

And all those things could possibly trigger different legal statutes, suits in various court cases. Now, the motion says that officers explained to Tunic that he would have to give over access to his phone, quote, whether it was done with his cooperation or not. Eventually, Mr. Tunic provided a password to his cell phone and E reader. According to the government, when the CPB officers entered the password on his cell phone, quote, the screen went blank, flashed several times, and the phone appeared to restart, unquote. After this, another officer entered the room to conduct a pat down, which Tunic did not consent to, but they did anyway. Then a DHS agent arrived with three other individuals to conduct another interview, which Tunic did not consent to, and pointed to his attorney's card. To quote from the motion again, quote, the agent explained that he was seizing Mr. Tunick's electronic devices and that they would be returned to Mr. Tunic after 30 days. Notably, the DHS agent explained that Mr. Tunick was, quote, not under arrest, but once these gentlemen are done with you, pursuant to your entry into the country, you're free to leave, unquote. So this motion to suppress evidence argued that the border questioning became, quote, unquote, custodial in nature when Mr. Tunick was not able to leave, was never informed of his rights, and was denied access to his lawyer. And so any, quote, evidence obtained from his phone, or lack thereof, should be suppressed as fruits of unlawfully obtained evidence. The specific statute that he's being charged with, 18 USC 2232, refers to, quote, the government's lawful authority to take such property. So this motion is arguing that the exact way this property was taken was not lawful.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

To quote from the motion, again, I think we'll expound on this. Quote. CBB officers introduced themselves to Mr. Tunick and explained that they were looking for people who are pedophiles. Officers justified their questioning and demands to search Mr. Tunick's phone by stating that they had to confirm whether he possessed child porn. The government's reports do not indicate any suspicion whatsoever that Mr. Tunic was in possession of child porn, but rather that their purpose in detaining Mr. Tunic and seizing his belongings was to investigate his ties with the Defend the Atlanta Forest movement. Tunick's unmorandized statement, the alleged wiping or encryption of the contents of his phone by providing agents with a specific password is testimonial in nature. Mr. Tunic had not been charged with committing a crime in connection with the Defend the Atlanta Force movement, but law enforcement seemingly took advantage of the relaxed constitutional protections at the border to try to dig up evidence, unquote and the the motion states that circuit courts have contradictory rulings if this sort of search is permitted, if, if you can search someone's phone at the border not to actually intercept digital contraband, but to fish for evidence in an unrelated criminal investigation.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

Now, something that may come up if this goes to trial is technically using graphene's stress password does not delete all of the data on the phone, but rather the phone loses the ability to access its encrypted data. GrapheneOS wrote on X the Everything app, quote our duress pin password leaves all the encrypted data on the device intact. It only wipes keys in the hardware key, stores the secure element and encryption metadata. It's an ear instant and then it powers off the device to wipe ram. So basically it wipes what the phone needs to decrypt its content and read the data, though graphene followed up on Twitter quote we doubt that's legally different from wiping data, unquote. So this technicality may or may not actually matter to the court, but this might not be a sort of get out of jail loophole that I see. Some people online presenting it as graphene. OS further explained that the duress password wipe should be legal not because of this quote unquote tech loophole, but because the defendant, quote, wasn't being investigated for any actual crime, wasn't under arrest, wasn't read his rights before being interrogated, wasn't under oath, et cetera, adding that it's quote, near impossible that they get anything of value if the phone was in before first unlock with a strong passphrase plus second factor fingerprint unlock setup, unquote. Whether or not this dress password was used, it is very unlikely that federal authorities would have been able to break into a phone running the graphene operating system. Yeah, that means that the device has been fully turned off and has not been unlocked since being turned back on. Similarly, it is very hard to break into an iPhone running iOS's lockdown mode with a complex alphanumeric password before first unlock. The combination of all those things can make it really hard to break in.

[James Stout]

We saw that right, Reece, with a reporter from. I forget who. One of the broadsheets whose phone was using lockdown mode that they've said they couldn't open. Right? Yeah, I guess I will just say that like if people want to know more about border searches and telephones, I would suggest going to the Electronic Frontier Foundation's page eff.org they have a great deal of information and you can find a lot there. It's currently the Southern District of New York, which is the one that requires a warrant, but there are various other degrees that we don't have the time nor is this a place for us to go over. So yeah, EFF are always a good source for this shit.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah, but like James said, this is a case that could become Supreme Court precedent over time. This is invoking a bunch of legal gray areas. The motion here to suppress evidence probably won't be decided on until at least October. So this is going to go on for quite a while. This is another new frontier in digital privacy and how that relates to the law, which the Supreme Court has taken up a lot of cases on recently. So this could become a very influential case going forward. So I wanted to go over some of these details now and we will certainly be covering this in the future as this case progresses.

[James Stout]

Yeah, the outlook hasn't been great so far, I would say with this like the US vs Belmonte Cardoso was the most recent case that was I think this week or last week. Again, not the place to go into this, but I will include a link in the source notes if you want to read about some of the case law.

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