Executive Disorder: Spokane Wildfires, Abdul Wins Michigan Primary, Munition Shortage

Summary

Podcast Summary:

It Could Happen Here – Executive Disorder: Spokane Wildfires, Abdul Wins Michigan Primary, Munition Shortage

Date: August 7, 2026
Hosts: Garrison Davis, Robert Evans, Mia Wong
Special Segment Reporting: James Stout (Spokane Wildfires)

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This episode of It Could Happen Here delivers a deeply reported survey of cascading crises: catastrophic wildfires in the Pacific Northwest (focusing on Spokane), seismic political shifts in the Michigan primary elections, and the looming dangers of acute U.S. munitions shortages. The hosts investigate how these stories tie into collapse, community resilience, and the increasing absurdity and danger of the current U.S. political economy.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Spokane Wildfires and Community Response [03:05–17:13]

Field Report: James Stout on the Ground

• Wildfire Outbreak:

  • On August 1st, the National Weather Service issued a Particularly Dangerous Situation (PDS) notice for eastern Washington and Idaho. Fires erupted across state lands and tribal territories, affecting the Colville and Spokane Tribes.
  • By Saturday, three major fires ignited near north Spokane, leading to sudden evacuation orders for nearly a third of Spokane’s 200,000 residents.

• Evacuation Realities:

  • Residents often had mere moments between level 3 ("go now") alerts and visible flames, dispelling the myth that "someone will come and tell you" [04:07].
  • Massive traffic jams as families, seniors, and VA hospital patients evacuated. The community felt the "weight of hundreds losing everything," including homes built by multiple generations [05:09].

• Official Briefing:

  • Tom Stokesbury (Public Information Officer) outlined that three fires—the Fairview, Old Trails, and Autumn Lane Fires—burned 10,540 acres, still highly active despite progress on control lines [06:40].

    “That doesn’t mean the fire is contained or controlled… there’s still active heat hot spots in the interior.” — Tom Stokesbury [06:50]

  • Over 700 structures impacted; hazardous materials complicate reentry and recovery [08:03].

    “There’s a tremendous amount of hazmat in there…burned solar panels, LPG, possible gas leaks, building materials… our ultimate goal is life first, then property.” — Stokesbury [08:03]

• Mutual Aid and Indigenous Community Impact:

  • Local business (JK Boots) donating all profits from "Homefront Day" to affected Spokane residents [09:27].
  • Community-led mutual aid groups, notably the River Warriors Society and Spokane Tribal Network, are providing essentials quickly, especially for hard-hit Indigenous communities [10:38–11:50].
  • Indigenous people used traditional firebreak methods, sometimes staying in evacuated areas to defend homes, but faced racism at some Red Cross shelters [10:38].

• Broader Context and Conspiracies:

  • Arrest made for suspected arson in one fire, but Stout emphasizes that "fire needs more than ignition," highlighting issues of climate, fuel, and urban expansion [12:00].

  • Stout confronts viral conspiracies about "data centers" or "15-minute city" urban planning being motives for arson, calling such theories “completely unfounded” and “comic book evil” [13:55].

    “Data centers are bad… but it doesn’t mean they're comic book evil all the time. There’s plenty of land here. None of this is supported by evidence.” — James Stout [14:11]

  • Key Message: “Healing doesn’t come from punishing someone, it comes from helping someone.” [16:53]

2. Political Turmoil: Michigan & Missouri Election Results [26:50–44:41]

Michigan Democratic Senate Primary

• Historic Upset:

  • Left-wing populist Abdul El-Sayed narrowly defeats establishment-favored, heavily AIPAC-funded Haley Stevens (48.5%–47.5%).

    "This is the most expensive Democratic Senate primary in history… El-Sayed was outspent 11 to 1." — Nick Turturro [27:21, 28:06]

  • El-Sayed’s win is notable for overcoming $70 million in opposition spending and negative advertising (“campaign finance zoomies” [29:25]).

• Policy Stances:

  • El-Sayed's platform: Medicare for All, abolishing medical debt, repealing Medicaid cuts, pro-choice, strong anti-dark money reforms, Supreme Court reforms, abolishing ICE, pro-Ukraine, immediate arms embargo on Israel, housing reform, AI regulation.

  • Famous for phrases like:

    “ICE funds should be repurposed… [to] create a clear pathway to citizenship.” — [30:06]

  • AI-generated Republican attack ads depicted him as a “communist Trojan horse,” which drew ridicule from hosts [34:06].

• Islamophobia & Political Racism:

  • The campaign was marked by intense Islamophobic rhetoric, especially by Republican Sen. Mike Rogers:

    “Never in a million years did I think that I would be running against someone who believes America deserved 9/11” — Mike Rogers [34:57]

  • Hosts stress both parties participated in Islamophobia; it also undermined a Republican candidate in another local race [35:17–36:29].

Other Michigan Races

• Rashida Tlaib (DSA-endorsee) wins easily (74%).
• William Lawrence (progressive, formerly DSA) wins House District 7.
• Donovan McKinney (DSA) wins District 13; Kyle Blomquist and Asha Faruki lose their races.
• Significance: Detroit is now the only major U.S. city fully represented in Congress by DSA members.

Missouri

• Cori Bush loses comeback bid to AIPAC-backed Wesley Bell.

Notable Quotes

• “Even just El-Sayed winning is probably the biggest blow to AIPAC that we've seen yet.” — Nick Turturro [43:30]
• “Detroit is now the only major city in the country to be fully represented... by DSA candidates.” — Nick Turturro [43:52]

Ramaswamy in Ohio

• GOP governor nominee Vivek Ramaswamy booed and heckled off stage by young conservatives over Israel, energy, and housing [44:15–45:14].

  “People my generation have already made it. We’re going to be fine. It’s going to be your generation.” — Vivek Ramaswamy (booed by crowd) [44:43]

• His “winners versus whiners” anti-complainer rhetoric falls flat.

3. U.S. Munitions Shortage and Military Readiness Crisis [52:17–59:14]

• Critical Shortfalls:

  • U.S. has burned through the vast majority of its precision missiles in war with Iran and depleted much of its 155mm artillery. Mesquite, Texas factory failed to meet quotas due to outdated machinery and poor planning:

    “…General Dynamics… failed to make a single single sub component needed… the Army will be unable to reach its monthly capacity goal…” — [53:55]

  • U.S. now producing “a third to half” of claimed shell output. Ukraine’s usage outpaces U.S. monthly production in just 2 weeks [54:02].

  • 3.6 million shells depleted; Patriot and Thaad missile stockpiles dangerously low.

• Strategic Impact:

  • Trump's administration pausing Iran offensives due to “freaking out” defense leadership over lack of munitions for a possible Russia/China conflict [56:22].
  • “I'm certain that in history books in the future, there are going to be pages written about this before whatever fucking disaster comes our way next.” — Robert Evans [58:28]

4. The Perverse Growth of Disaster Prediction Markets [59:14–64:56]

• Gambling on Wildfires & Natural Disasters:

  • New markets like Polymarket and Wildfire (WYLDFYRE) let users wager on where wildfires will strike, hurricanes, and more [59:16, 61:05].

  • Bipartisan calls to ban wildfire prediction markets, warning of possible arson-for-profit scenarios.

    "It’s evil for so many reasons." — [62:51]

  • Federal and state fire agencies ignore this “useless data.” Hosts blast the “wisdom of crowds” idea behind these markets.

  • Sports/online gambling culture’s explosion is described as “the only recreational activity a lot of Americans have anymore” [64:14].

  • Shift in host attitudes from libertarian to pro-regulatory:

    “I used to have a lot more libertarian y views on gambling. And now I am firmly in favor of harsh state intervention into basically all forms of digital gambling.” — Nick Turturro [64:21]

5. Economic Uncertainty and Federal Reserve Dysfunction [65:08–73:33]

• Fed Chairman Kevin Warsh's "Rocky" Press Conference:

  • Amid inflation, Warsh declines to raise rates or offer guidance—triggering a bond sell-off and global concerns.

    "Former Fed officials… voice concerns… 'I want to feel comfortable the Fed knows what it is doing. I don't think it’s sustainable what he's… not saying anything.'" — Loretta Mester [67:04]

  • Warsh’s secrecy believed to be aimed at not antagonizing Trump ahead of the midterms by raising rates [70:09].
  • Warsh’s yen intervention (to bolster Japan’s currency) conducted by selling euros, baffling market analysts.

• Tariffs and Court Battles:

  • 25 states are now suing the Trump administration over the latest tariff regime, but legal proceedings lag behind each new tariff cycle [74:38–76:17].

    “We're seeing that here. …the lawsuits don't matter because the authorization expired. We're… going to see a similar thing… lawsuits are irrelevant by the time this [goes] to court.” — Robert Evans [75:30]

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Notable Quotes & Soundbites

• James Stout:

  “We’re all going to have to live with fire in the west… the climate is changing and we are pushing our homes further… And that is where this fire began.” [04:20]

  “Healing doesn't come from punishing someone, it comes from helping someone.” [16:53]

• Nick Turturro:

  “This is the most expensive Democratic Senate primary in history. AIPAC and dark money really rallied for Stevens, especially in this past month.” [28:06]

  “They really think we’re just Democrats. …God, Jesus Christ.” (AI Republican ad about Abdul) [34:06]

• Robert Evans:

  “I’m certain that in history books in the future, there are going to be pages written about this [ammunition crisis] before whatever fucking disaster comes our way next.” [58:28]

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Major Timestamps

| Topic | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------------|------------------| | Spokane Wildfires: Stout’s field reporting | 03:05–17:13 | | Michigan Democratic Senate Primary | 26:50–36:50 | | Islamophobia, other MI elections, Cori Bush loss | 36:50–44:41 | | Ramaswamy booed in Ohio | 44:14–45:32 | | Munitions Shortage and Weapons Crisis | 52:17–59:14 | | Wildfire Gambling Markets | 59:14–64:56 | | Federal Reserve Meltdown & Tariffs | 65:08–76:17 |

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Tone & Style

• Urgent, investigative, irreverent—hosts blend on-the-ground reporting with informed snark and critical analysis.
• Emphasis on systems collapse, institutional rot, and the necessity of grassroots mutual aid.
• Frequent lampooning of political actors and policy failures; deep empathy toward affected communities.

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Conclusion & Resources

• Episode ends with donation links for Spokane wildfire recovery:
  • spokantribalnetwork.org
  • Spokane Complex Wildfire Response Fund (URL in episode description)
• The hosts urge listeners to focus on community aid over scapegoating or conspiracy, and to remain alert to both political and climatic upheaval.

Final Quote:
“We reported the news.” — [76:51]

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For those who missed the episode, this is an incisive, sometimes darkly humorous account of American political, economic, and ecological instability, grounded by the human stories of survival and community solidarity in Spokane.

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[James Stout]

Hi everyone, it's James. I'm in Washington State this week covering the fires here. I will cover fire more in depth on my new show Natural Courses, which you will soon be able to download wherever quality podcasts given away for free. But I want to catch everyone up on the fires here as I know a lot of folks prefer to consume their news this way and might otherwise not be aware of what's going on. So on the 1st of August, the National Weather Service in eastern Washington and in Idaho issued a PDS a Particularly Dangerous situation notice. Fires were already burning across much of the state and across much of the Pacific Northwest, including on the land of the Colville Tribes and the Spokane Tribe. On Saturday, three fires struck near the north part of the city of Spokane. The PDS doubtless helped some folks repair. Other folks I'm sure will have missed it entirely. Very quickly people went from nothing to level three go now warnings. This was somewhat compounded by things like a large travel volleyball tournament happening in an area which got a level three go now warning. What that means, if you're not familiar, there are three levels of warnings when you are evacuated for a fire and the level three is the most severe one. That being like you have to leave your home right now. Several people have related to me and I want to caveat here that I'm not being critical of the response, which has actually been very good. I'm giving information because more people are going to find themselves in this situation in the future. And I think it's important that people understand that the level three warning that buzzed on people's phones and emergency alert came not very long before they saw fires and even structures on fire in their neighborhood. Right. I think people sometimes think that like someone will come and tell you when it is your time to leave. That's not always going to be possible.

[Hayes Davenport]

Right.

[James Stout]

And again, I'm not conveying that to say that the response here was poor. I'm conveying that to say that people need to understand this because we're all going to have to live with fire in the west because there has always been fire here. The climate is changing and we are pushing our homes further and further into the wildland urban interface. And that is where this fire began, right? On Saturday. This state was a tinderbox. And it was these neighborhoods along the wildland urban interface that caught the brunt of these fast moving fires that found a plentiful source of fuel and were pushed along by the wind. Currently, about a third of the 200,000 people who live here in Spokane have been placed under evacuations orders. And the community is obviously feeling the weight of that, along with the hundreds of people who lost their homes and all their possessions here. Notable points of the evacuations included buses evacuating people from old folks homes. And a VA hospital was also evacuated by buses. And of course many people left their homes in their cars, with their possessions, their pets, their families, et cetera. And of course that resulted in very slow moving traffic. Nonetheless, from what I heard this morning, seems everyone evacuated in time, at least to save themselves. I know many people will be dealing with tragedies, right? They've lost their homes, people will have lost pets, people will have lost things that are incredibly important to them, right? I spoke to people out on the Colville Tribes Reservation who were saying they had lost homes that their father, mother, grandparents built with their hands, right? These intergenerational homes that are gone. That is absolutely tragic. I want to give an update that I got this morning from the public information officer of the IMT that's managing this fire. So we'll drop that in right now.

[Tom Stokesbury]

My name's Tom Stokesbury. I'm the lead public information officer for California Interagency incident management team 7. So right now there's three fires that make up the Spokane area fires. That's going to be the Fairview Fire, the Old Trails Fire and the Autumn Lane Fire. Currently all totaled in the acres is 10,540. But over the last 24 hours, our firefighters have made tremendous progress in putting control lines in around the entire perimeter of all three fires. Now that doesn't mean the fire is contained or controlled. We just have those management and control lines there still have an active firefight, still have active flames in the interior to the point on the Old Trails and Fairview Fire. We actually had a spot outside the line on each one of those that went to about an acre, acre and a half. But we had the resources in the right place and they were able to pick those up at about one acre each. So that Just kind of proves that there's still active heat hot spots in this interior. And that's why we have engines in all three of these fires still protecting the structures that have not been impacted yet. Because the. Any kind of wind can throw embers. And right now, the receptive fuels in this area, and by fuels, I mean the vegetation that is so dry. Right. Your grass, your brush, it's very receptive to those. Those embers proof being is the two spot fires. But we have 1300 firefighters here. We're expected to be over 2000 by the end of the week.

[James Stout]

I also asked about the number of structures impacted and when people here can expect to return home. And here's what Tom said.

[Tom Stokesbury]

Right now, we're well over 700 structures that have been impacted. We do have damage assessment personnel ordered and en route. It's my understanding they'll be showing up today and we'll have them on the ground tomorrow. So we're going to start to get a more accurate number of what those impacted structures look like versus, you know, a total loss to just an impacted structure. And those structures include not only people's personal homes, but garages, outbuildings, sheds. But we're going to get a better accurate number on those over these next few days, trying to get these communities back to where we can get them repopulated. But in addition to that, there's a tremendous amount of hazmat in there. We're talking burn solar panels, we're talking lpg, possible gas leaks, the building materials from homes that have been burned, the stuff that's inside those homes. There is a lot of hazmat. So we have to ensure the public is going to be safe before we repopulate and let them back in there. Because our ultimate goal is life first, then property. And that life is not just firefighters. It's the public safety. Yeah.

[James Stout]

While I was at the Firebase camp, I also ran into local community members and businesses who were helping out. People were constantly dropping off food and snacks and supplies. Here's one local business owner who explained his efforts to me.

[Nick Turturro]

So, my name is Tim Kadzi. I'm with JK Boots. I'm one of the owners with my brother and dad.

[James Stout]

I asked him what him and his company were doing to support the community.

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On Wednesday, August 5th, we're doing something called Homefront Day.

[Nick Turturro]

We're gonna donate 100% of all the profits of that day to the Spokane

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residents who lost their homes.

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So they could do that, they could participate. Just go on our website and just do Something, just get something, and that'll

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go to those people. The other things you can do is

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you can come here and you can offer to drop off, you know, again, drinks, wipes, essentials.

[James Stout]

You can look on Facebook, they've posted those things.

[Nick Turturro]

The other big thing is just there's other funds that are set up that have, like, meal trains and because there's about 60,000 people that are still not.

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Not able to go back to their homes.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Stout]

What's happening in Spokane is tragic, and it is going to impact this community for years to come. It will take a very long time for rebuilding to happen and probably even longer for people to heal emotionally. I want to make sure that we do not overlook the several large ongoing fires are impacting the indigenous communities around the city, though, because as resources shift to the fires that burn the city, these communities will see fewer resources. And indeed, they already have seen fewer resources. I spent the last couple of days visiting the Colville tribes reservations, Spokane tribe reservations. Today I spoke to folks who had cut their own fire lines around their homes in communities who were prepared to fight the fire.

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And.

[James Stout]

And indigenous people here have lived with fire for thousands of years, right. They have a deep understanding of fire. And people there had decided to stay and to defend their communities even in areas that were impacted by level three evacuations. Not everybody, right? Some people who were more vulnerable, some people who were not able to participate in that response or didn't feel safe doing so, left under, folks stayed. As resources continue to be diverted to fight these fires in Spokane and as news coverage will continue to center on the city, folks who lost their homes out in these tribal communities will also need help, and it might be harder for them to find it. And some of these people are still in their homes. Just today, I spoke to several people who are determined to do their hardest to save their homes and hoping that the wind doesn't pick up, they're cutting their own fire lines. In several cases, forestry and mining workers, as well as tribal community members who were on contract fire crews have been using their machinery and their skills to clear space and create better firebreaks around their communities. It's a really tragic and difficult situation, especially when combined with this reporting that I will link to of Red Cross volunteers making racist remarks at shelters that made indigenous folks feel unwelcome there. I don't think I need to repeat those, but I will link to the story if you'd like to read it. It is also, of course, amazing to see the strengths and resilience of Communities coming together to take care of one another in these tragic situations. I particularly want to highlight the work of the River Warriors Society I spent today with them moving supplies from one reservation to another. I will include a link to the Spokane Tribal Network, which people can use if they'd like to donate to support that mutual aid work. They're really doing excellent work. They're getting people what they need. They're filling those gaps. They're moving more quickly than big organizations or big government things can. Even tribal governments will require paperwork, whereas what they're doing is literally standing at gas stations using cards to pay for people's gas so they can get where they need to go, right? Getting people hotel rooms, getting people food, getting people the things they need to get through this and to begin healing. Today I help load hundreds of pounds of pet food and animal food into a trailer, for instance, so that people who need to feed their animals don't have to drive for hours away from their homes, right when the risk of fire is high and they want to stay home and do what they can to protect their homes. They're really doing excellent work, and I would encourage you to support them if you have the resources. I will have more of this when I get home. Currently really tired. I smell like a campfire, and I am in the bathroom of a motel because it is the only quiet place I could find. If you'd like to donate, I would suggest the Spokane Travel Network. And I'm going to include their web address. It's spokantribalnetwork.org not hard to find. I will also include the Innovia foundation webpage for donation to folks in Spokane and their ongoing recovery. And yeah, I have more on this soon. Hey, everyone, it's James again. Just a little pickup here that I wanted to add. Someone has been arrested for arson in connection with the Autumn Trails fire. I want to remind everyone that an arrest is not a conviction. There were three fires that impacted Spokane, and that fire needs more than ignition, right. To spread in the way that it did here. It needs fuel, crucially, in this example. And that fuel was already there, Right. That's why I wanted to highlight the PDS that was issued on the 1st of August. Now, I also want to address these conspiracy theories. Right? The most common conspiracy theory seems to be that this was an attempt by big data center companies to clear a block of land in order to have a place where they could put a data center. I can tell you that I've spent the last two days driving hundreds of miles around eastern Washington there is plenty of land where you could put a data center here without burning down a neighbourhood. Data centers are bad. They are destroying so many beautiful places and so many wonderful things. It doesn't mean that they are comic book evil all the time. I think we need to inject a little rational thought here. We don't have any evidence that it was a data center. If we did, then people would be presenting it. But the data center hypothesis seems to rest on people want to build the data center near here, therefore burn down neighborhoods. Or the relatively common and frequently recurrent 15 minute cities conspiracy theory, which suggests that rather than 15 minute cities being an aspirational goal for urban planning and a framework around which to consider permitting, building and potentially growing our cities, they are some kind of George Soros mandated diktat that is now being enforced by burning people's neighbourhoods down in suburban areas. Again, no evidence to support that other than this wasn't a city that, you know, the 15 minute city people consider to be a 15 minute city. I want to address these things because they come up every single time there's a fire. And I think we need and we're going to talk about this more in my show Natural Causes, which you can hear from 17th of August wherever Good podcast is given away for free. There are going to be fires in this ecosystem forever. There have been fires since there have been plants to burn, lightning started fires before people ever did. But the people who have been here for tens of thousands of years have lived alongside fire for all that time. We can't entirely suppress fire and remove it from our landscape. This landscape needs fire and it evolved co evolved with fire. But there are ways that we can prevent fire from doing what happened today. But they require a lot of effort, they require a lot of resources and they require some rethinking of how we live alongside fire. That's something I'd like to approach later and in more detail. But I guess I just wanted to address these conspiracy theories because I see more and more of them also want to point out that there is no meaningful restitution that could be extracted from one person if that person did start the fire. Healing doesn't come from punishing someone, it comes from helping someone. And in this situation, there are hundreds of families who lost their homes, both on the Cobble Tribes Reservation, the Spokane Tribe reservation, and here in Spokane City. And I think the focus should be on how to help those people and how to help them heal rather than blaming one person who may have started this fire, who May not.

[Hayes Davenport]

Right.

[James Stout]

We haven't got a conviction yet. But either way, I want people to remember that this is about a lot more than one person.

[Nick Turturro]

Thank you, James. In other news, on Monday, a federal judge issued a preliminary injunction blocking New York's ban on ICE agents wearing masks. New York State is suing to shut down Kalshi for operating as an unregulated sports betting platform that offers illegal underage gambling. The state is also seeking $36 billion in penalties. And this lawsuit comes after a district court ruled against Kalshee in their bid to protect itself from the enforcement of New York's gambling laws. Prior to this lawsuit from the state, Kalshee attempted to bribe Governor Kathy Hochul by offering 10 billion in tax revenue over five years. The governor responded on X the Everything app, Kalshi can promise 100% of its revenue. You can't buy yourself an exemption from New York law if an illegal bookie offers the state a share of their profits, will still shut them down, unquote. In response to a lawsuit from Trump accusing Capital One of unlawfully closing his bank accounts for political reasons, Capital One has revealed in court filings that the Trump Organization bank accounts were closed in 2021 for quote, unquote, anti money laundering reasons following, quote, months of analysis and careful review by the bank's money laundering team. A few months prior to the closure of Trump's accounts, Capital One had to pay a $390 million penalty to the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network for not enforcing an effective anti money laundering program. Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche's Senate confirmation hearing is coming up. But last week, President Trump said he would keep Blanche on as Acting Attorney General if Blanche doesn't get confirmed and just try to nominate him again after the midterms. The U.S. attorney has dropped charges against three people who were accused of damaging the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool. The motion to dismiss the felony charge against the former Olympic athlete claims that it wasn't until after he was indicted that the Department of Interior gave evidence over to prosecutors that, quote, damage to the Lincoln Memorial reflecting pool in July 2026 was the result of flawed installation by the contractor and the rush to complete the project prior to events associated with America 250 celebration in the weeks surrounding Independence Day 2026. The motion also states, quote, is difficult to attribute the widespread damage to the reflecting pool to vandalism, unquote. Of course, Trump was not too happy about this. Turning to Truth Social to say I disagree 100% with Jeanine Pirro, the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia on the reflecting pool. I don't know what she was thinking. To me it was a pure case of vandalism in all caps. That includes the grass, which had a big 8647 emblazoned in giant letters on it.

[Hayes Davenport]

Oh my God.

[Nick Turturro]

And many other elements of the surrounding area.

[James Stout]

Oh God, oh God, oh God.

[Nick Turturro]

There may have been some contractor difficulty, but the major damage was caused by vandals. President djt the president later said that Pirro, quote, unquote, folded like an umbrella and quote, frankly I think she choked because the judge was really vicious. Unquote. There was some speculation that he might fire the U.S. attorney. That has not happened as of yet,

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

but who knows, you know, it's, it's the Trump administration. Things could have changed by the time we finish recording this. Yeah, there's like a 30% chance things will have changed by the time we finish recording this.

[Nick Turturro]

Obviously it's good that these charges were dropped. It was very clear that the damage to the reflecting pool was not done by vandals.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

No. And that fucking late middle aged former Olympian bending briefly down to touch the water did not cause 150 foot cut in the fucking.

[Nick Turturro]

In the center of the pool.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

Absolutely not.

[Hayes Davenport]

God.

[Nick Turturro]

Ohio House Rep. Max Miller, who's accused of abuse and breaking his two year old daughter's collarbone, which we covered last week, posted a video this week addressing the allegations made by his ex wife saying, quote, if I had assaulted her, would she have offered to cook me dinner six days later, unquote. The next day Trump was questioned about Miller and said this.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

It's a very sad thing.

[Nick Turturro]

I know Max, he's, it's a good person. I mean, I always thought he was a very good person. And I'm going to let the families figure that out. You know those families, I know they're working on it. It's a very sad thing, especially when

[Hayes Davenport]

you know somebody so well to be going through that.

[Nick Turturro]

But it's accusations and I'm going to let them figure that out. On Tuesday, it was announced the House Ethics Committee would open investigation after Miller himself requested a probe into the allegations. Let's go to an ad break and then return to talk about the primary elections in Michigan and Missouri.

[James Stout]

Yeah,

[Nancy Glass]

Well, it's that time again. Backpacks, first day of school outfits and the low key anxiety of am I even doing this right? Good Mom's Bad Choices is diving into the back school season the way only we know how. Unfiltered, funny and full of the moments other shows won't Touch. From surviving morning drop offs to the guilt of missing the first bake sale, Iri told me that she next season, she wants to join a club team that's by your house. So I was like, so you want me to pick you up from school? I'll take her by my house, but then I have to take her there, and then I have to drive back. And then some days I'm here and I have to go pick you up at school and then bring you back. I was just like, hell no. This is a space where moms trade their highlight reel for the real real. Whether you're a new mom, a veteran mom, or just trying to make it to pick up on time, this season of Good Moms Bad Choices is for you. Listen to Good Mom's Bad Choices from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Bill, why is my eye twitching? Does this mean I'm in perimenopause? Maybe I have adult adhd. I need to look this up. Where's my phone?

[Hayes Davenport]

Juliana, your phone is hot to the touch. I think it's asking you for a break.

[James Stout]

You know what?

[Nancy Glass]

Maybe I should just ask ChatGPT.

[Hayes Davenport]

Or maybe we can ask an actual human.

[Nancy Glass]

Yes, like a couple sex therapist.

[Hayes Davenport]

Whoa, that escalated quickly.

[Nancy Glass]

But okay, because I have questions.

[Hayes Davenport]

We have questions.

[Nancy Glass]

And I bet everyone has questions like, is it normal to sleep in separate bedrooms? We do that.

[Nick Turturro]

How about this one?

[Hayes Davenport]

Is bribing your kids bad parenting or just negotiating?

[Nancy Glass]

Oh, and I still do need to know, why was my poop green that one time?

[Hayes Davenport]

Hypothetically, Right? Okay, well, instead of letting the Internet guess, we've got actual people, answering these

[Nancy Glass]

exact questions and laughing with us has got to be better than spending three hours down a rabbit hole online.

[Hayes Davenport]

Listen to Bill and Juliana. The podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast.

[Nancy Glass]

Us. Did you think you were the only one? No matter what you did, it was never good enough for your mother.

[Nick Turturro]

Yeah.

[Nancy Glass]

I'm Jennifer Arise, and we're talking about that and more on the Black Mother Wound Podcast. We rush to accommodate other people when we have been hurt and we have not healed. Our hurt has not been healed. We're going there. On the Black Mother Wound podcast, we center the stories of black women as we heal and unpack how the painful relationship with our mother impacts our choices, decisions, and life in every way. These are the conversations your inner little girl has been waiting for. We're gonna go deep, cry a little or a lot. And yeah, laugh too. Cause baby, Listen to the Black Mother Wound Podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Nora Jones and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing along is Back. I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. Every episode's a little different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite music. Over the past two seasons I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Levy, Mavis Staples, Remy Wolf, Jeff Tweedy. Really too many to name. And this season I've sat down with Joshua Homme, Sarah McLachlan, John Legend, and more. Check out my new episode with Finneas.

[Hayes Davenport]

So I went home and I asked

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

Billie if she wanted to sing it. She immediately made it her own thing.

[James Stout]

No,

[Nancy Glass]

You really know how to make

[James Stout]

me cry when you give me those oceans.

[Nancy Glass]

So come hang out with us in the studio and listen to Playing along on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nick Turturro]

Okay, we are back this past Tuesday, left wing populist candidate Abdul El Said beat corporate backed and APAC backed candidate Haley Stevens in the Democratic Senate primary in Michigan. In the week. Prior to the election, polling had showed El Said pulling way ahead by double digits, but come election night he won by just one point 48.5% to Stevens 47.5%. Very close race.

[James Stout]

Great.

[Nick Turturro]

The more traditional progressive candidates. Mallory McMorrow, who suspended her campaign months ago, got 4% of the vote, over 60,000 votes. El Said ended up winning by just 15,000 votes. But the fact that Tuesday wasn't a total blowout for El Said should not take away from the magnitude of this victory. Haley Stevens had nearly $70 million of outside spending helping her in this race, about half of which came from AIPAC. Al Said was outspent 11 to 1. For the past month, pro Stevens ads have completely dominated the airwaves.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

Jesus, I didn't know it was that big a discrepancy in funding. That's crazy brutal.

[Nick Turturro]

This is the most expensive Democratic Senate primary in history. AIPAC and dark money really rallied for Stevens, especially in this past month.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

Whoops.

[Nick Turturro]

Some of those ads and mailers just completely blanketing Michigan falsely implied that Stevens was endorsed by Barack Obama, which some voters cited as their reason for supporting Stevens. Other ads tried to smear Abdul as a sexist podcast bro for comments critical of Michelle Obama and Gretchen Whitmer's politics. Stevens received the endorsement of Michigan's sitting governor, Gretchen Whitmer, as well as multiple Democratic establishment figures, Pelosi, Jim Clyburn, as well as the Michigan Democratic Party Black and Jewish caucuses. Israel and Palestine became a central issue in this race. In the last two debates, Abdul hit Stephens again and again over AIPAC and corporate funding. In the final debate, even the moderator questioned Stevens on whether her AIPAC funding would influence how she votes in Congress. Also in that last debate, Stevens lied on stage about taking money from utility companies. In an interview just a week before the election, Stevens addressed the attacks over dark money funding. Quote, it seems like we got the campaign finance zoomies.

[Hayes Davenport]

Jesus Christ.

[Nick Turturro]

We've got to be really honest here. Who's benefiting from this level of infighting? It's the Republicans who've already have all their dark money all lined up and ready to go, unquote. Let's take a listen to what those campaign finance zoomies can buy you in the Senate.

[Hayes Davenport]

Israel comes to me in my dreams. I see Israel's future and I know that Israel will continue to exist for the Jewish people.

[Nick Turturro]

Just the zoomies. It's fine, everyone.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

It's the zoomies.

[Hayes Davenport]

God, Jesus Christ.

[Nick Turturro]

I will not, I will not stop playing that clip because it's one of the craziest things to have a then sitting congressperson say.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

Yeah.

[Nick Turturro]

Now, Haley Stevens tried to attack Abdul for having a super PAC of his own, primarily funded by his father in law, who, who did donate $300,000 to the pack, which was the highest individual contribution. You know, $300,000 from his father in law versus $70 million of outside spending.

[Hayes Davenport]

Jesus Christ.

[Nick Turturro]

Not, not a very compelling argument. But that, that was, that was one of the main things that Stevens tried to hit Abdul on during the last two debates when he brought up the massive amount of APAC spending backing her campaign. Abdul has worked in public health since 2015, and for Senate, he ran on Medicare for all and abolishing medical debt, which he did for 300,000 residents of Wayne county in 2024 as director of the county health department. His platform also includes repealing Medicaid cuts from Trump's, quote, unquote, beautiful bill, codifying reproductive rights and protecting gender affirming care. His, quote, unquote, money out of politics plank includes getting rid of Citizens United to stop dark money pacts, ending partisan gerrymandering, supporting Supreme Court reform, getting rid of the filibuster, abolishing ice, and that, quote, ICE funds should be repurposed to build out the legal infrastructure of courts to create a clear pathway to citizenship for those who are stuck in limbo in our current system. Unquote. Abdul supports Ukraine and opposes, quote, the illegal and unjustifiable war in Iran. He also opposes, quote, direct blank check funding to foreign militaries including Egypt, Israel, Saudi Arabia, the UAE and others. And he supports an immediate arms embargo on Israel and rejects, quote, the false differentiation between offensive and defensive weapons, which is a reference to the Iron Dome. His money in your pocket platform includes an anti monopoly FTC trade agreements negotiated with unions, restoring funding to the nih, opposing private school vouchers, tying increases in the defense budget to an equal increase in education funding, taxing capital gains over a million dollars at the same rate as ordinary income, closing loopholes used by the ultra wealthy, raising the marginal tax rate on earnings over 1 million and a billionaire tax. He also supports a cost of living exemption on federal taxes up to $50,000 and closing the Social Security payroll tax cap for housing. His platform aims to streamline local regulations to make it easier to build while banning large corporations that speculate on housing stock from owning homes and supporting legislation to ban algorithmic rental price fixing software. ELSAID supports regulating AI companies, creating an independent technical agency with real enforcement power for AI, which he cites the FDA as an example, but having basically an FDA type organization to regulate and handle AI. He also is in support of federal zoning guidelines and legislation to protect communities from the consequences of data centers. In a primary debate, El said that data center projects must meet the following terms. Quote all union labor, no raising our utility rates, increasing our utility reliability, not touching our water and there's got to be a community benefits agreement that's negotiated in good faith with all the money put into escrow, unquote. El Said is not a DSA candidate. He does not call himself a socialist, but he was endorsed by Bernie Sanders, AOC and campaigned with Hasan Piker. He's also been backed by the uaw, National Nurses United, the Working Families Party, Jewish Voice for Peace, and if not now, a few days before the primary. But after polling indicated that Abdul would likely be the nominee, incumbent Republican Senator Mike Rogers released an AI generated ad depicting Abdul as a communist Trojan horse. Let's take a listen. They'll never see us coming.

[Hayes Davenport]

They really think we're just Democrats. God, Jesus Christ.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

Every AI ad I hear Jeff Goldblum's fucking voice say, you were so obsessed with whether or not you could, you didn't stop to think. You know, should we? Is this a good idea? Is this ad going to work?

[Nick Turturro]

So basically, this ad has a Trojan horse rolling into Michigan with a large banner reading Definitely not Communism. Inside the horse. Abdul is dressed as Odysseus from the Nolan movie, along with Bernie Sanders, AOC and Soran Mamdani. Text at the end reads, don't let Communism into Michigan. Mike Rogers for U.S. senate. I think Mike Rogers should keep releasing ads just like this, nothing else. I want him just to keep releasing these ads. I think that'll be great.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

Yeah.

[Nick Turturro]

Rogers did release a statement after Abdul's victory. Quote, I spent years hunting terrorists and bringing Osama bin Laden to justice. Never in a million years did I think that I would be running against someone who believes America deserved 9, 11, unquote. Abdul has never said that, obviously.

[Hayes Davenport]

And I also think that this is a example of just the sheer level of racism that has defined this campaign. And we also saw versions of this with Mamdani. But like, just the, the unhinged amount of Islamophobia that has been leveled against Sayyid is really, really disturbing.

[Nick Turturro]

And it's going to get worse.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah, it's going to get so much worse. Yeah. But it's, but it's also like this is an example of Islamophobia from the Republicans. For the Democrats have been doing it too, and it's extremely bleak the extent to which this is just a thing you can do running a political campaign.

[Nick Turturro]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

It's interesting because it isn't entirely, at least lately, to their benefit either. Like, it recently really screwed them over in another Michigan race. Right. Like Michigan's 8th district, the Republican primary between Thomas J. Smith, Amir Hassan and Al Limo. Thomas Smith took ahead even though he had, like, suspended his campaign like, more than a month ago. Amir Hasan had been endorsed by Trump and is not a Muslim, but has a name that kind of sounds like he would be like, to a racist.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

And so, like, at least that's the suspicion as to why Hasan did not do better against someone who was not actively running.

[Nick Turturro]

Yeah. Was not. Was not campaigning.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

A lot of anger on Truth Social by maga, people who thought that Trump had endorsed a Muslim.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

Yeah. It's just, I mean, like, the, the level of bigotry is off the chart. It's interesting that it doesn't seem to. Or at least in this case, it torpedoed a Republican but not a Democrat, which I do think is kind of fun. But yeah, the overall trend is very much not fun.

[Nick Turturro]

On a similar sort of note, last week the Michigan State AG Dana Nestle announced at an adl quote unquote anti Semitism roundtable that she would not be attending the Michigan Nominating convention for their Democratic nominee over fears of being booed for working with Trump and Cash Patel's FBI to indict pro Palestine student protesters in June.

[Nancy Glass]

I'm not going to be attending the nominating invention for the Michigan Democratic Party in August and that is because I don't feel safe going. I feel like my presence is not

[Hayes Davenport]

going to be welcome.

[Nancy Glass]

I don't want to get chased around, I don't want to get harassed, I don't want to get yelled and screamed at and I don't want to get

[Hayes Davenport]

booed off the stage irrespective of what I'm saying.

[Nancy Glass]

And I believe that if I go that is what will happen because it's been happening to me.

[Nick Turturro]

Get fucked up.

[Hayes Davenport]

Fuck yo. Which which good like you are, you are by definition a collaborator for having participated in this. That is like the, the absolute bare minimum of accountability that you should be facing is, is that you should be booed every single place you go to.

[Nick Turturro]

Her office has, has tried for years to go after pro Palestine protesters and has been forced to to drop charges because her office was specifically discriminatory and she only got her way via teaming up with the Trump Admin and Kash Patel's FBI to go after student protesters. This is something she's been trying to do for literal years and has been unable to because her her office is too racist.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah. And again also like student protesters were horribly brutalized by the police repeatedly as I think most people who listen to this remember to some extent. But yeah.

[Nick Turturro]

Also in Michigan, the DSA endorsed Rashida Tlaib handily won her reelection in the District 12 primary with 74% of the vote. Also in Michigan, left wing populist and co founder of the Sunrise Movement William Lawrence won the Democratic primary for House District 7 with about 56,000 votes. Two more kind of moderate candidates each got 35,000 votes. So there is a sort of moderate split here. Lawrence will now be facing the Republican incumbent Tom Barrett who won by just 4 points in 2024. There's 226,000 votes to 209,000 votes. So this could end up being a close race. Really depends on voter turnout. Yeah, Lawrence is a member of DSA but is not DSA endorsed, though he does have the endorsement of Sanders. El Said Rashida Tlaib Ro Khanna the Nurses Union Working Families Party and Track APAC Quick update here. Lawrence went on CNN Wednesday night to clarify that while he used to be a member of dsa. He let his membership lapse last month. In the weeks before the election, Lawrence was attacked by the Democratic establishment and the Congressional Black Caucus for being quote unquote racist because of a quote from a podcast conversation on black liberation and black anti war activism with an activist named Hoori Peterson Smith. I'll read the full quote here. That was clipped and spread around mainly by HuffPost quote the extent to which the older generation of black political leadership are such a pillar, frankly for establishment capitalist imperialist American power through their role as this kind of traditionalist establishment pillar of the Democratic Party. It's a big problem. It's a big problem for left politics in this country and it gets us every single time. It really defangs the white left and puts us in impossible positions, really. Unquote. William Lawrence told HuffPost quote I have tremendous respect for black community leaders who have been at the forefront of the fight for freedom for centuries. This was in the context of a wide ranging conversation with a guest on the show about racial dynamics in progressive politics. I regret how this specific point was expressed, unquote. And yes, absolutely there is no reason to say the white left there specifically. This harms the entire left. There's really no reason to say that this is part of a larger conversation in this podcast he was having about racial dynamics in like left wing spaces. But I think that is a bad thing to say. Lawrence added to his statement online, quote, the way I made this point was clumsy and I regret my choice of words. I understand the potential impact when received out of context. The way the story is being reported does not reflect my beliefs. National elected leaders across race, ethnicity, age and gender have been supporters of unnecessary US wars. This poses a challenge to the anti war movement. Americans of all races and ages must work together to advance peace. Until we do, our resources will go to funding war and genocide abroad rather than investing in affordable housing and health care or closing the racial wealth gap, unquote. DSA candidate Donovan McKinney beat Democratic incumbent Sri Tanadar by almost 4%, about 4,000 votes in House District 13, another close race. It was looking like SRI might pull ahead earlier in the night, but Donovan did end up winning and will now likely become another DSA congressman. Tanidar was backed by aipac, Hakeem Jeffries, the Congressional Progressive Caucus and the Center Left New Democrat Coalition. But it's not all wins in Michigan. Kyle Blomquist, another DSA candidate for Congress in Michigan House District 1 lost to moderate Kaylee Barr, who will now face the Republican incumbent in the General and DSA endorsed Asha Faruki lost to pro Israel Democrat Jeffrey Moss for Haley Stevens House seat. So those are the two main losses for DSA last Tuesday, both US House seats in Michigan. Though I think it is interesting to note that Detroit is now the only major city in the country to be fully represented in the U.S. house by DSA candidates. And two DSA candidates for the Michigan State House also won their primaries. In Missouri, Cori Bush lost her comeback bid to incumbent Wesley Bell who was backed by AIPAC and was also really really outspent. And the Kansas City DSA endorsed candidate Harzell Gray lost his primary for House District 4 by just under 2000 votes. Very close race. So lots of wins, some losses, but even just El said winning is probably the biggest blow to AIPAC that we've seen yet. Like, like I said, this is the most expensive Democratic Senate primary in history. In a state with open primaries where tens of millions of dollars in ad spending can go really far in rural areas and with older low info voters, a left wing Muslim candidate overcoming both AIPAC and the Democratic establishment in a swing state is a massive victory. I have one final little election update for the gubernatorial race in Ohio.

[Hayes Davenport]

Oh God.

[Nick Turturro]

Because in late July, Republican nominee for governor Vivek Ramaswamy spoke or tried to speak at the Young Americans for Liberty National Convention, an annual Ron Paul esque convention for young libertarian conservatives at Xavier University in Cincinnati, Ohio. Ramaswamy's speaking block was for 30 minutes. He lasted 14 before being booed off stage. Let's take a listen.

[James Stout]

Truth of the matter is, you know,

[Hayes Davenport]

no matter what happens, in whichever direction

[Nick Turturro]

we go, people, my generation have already made it. We're going to be fine. It's going to be your generation.

[Hayes Davenport]

You're a political cretin and you need

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

to get the cops out of here.

[Hayes Davenport]

Seems like it's going great.

[Nick Turturro]

So there are two cuts in that clip. But all that audio is from the last like two minutes of his speech. Ramaswamy was also booed as he first went onto stage.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

Great sign. Great sign.

[Nick Turturro]

And throughout the 14 minutes he was heckled over Israel, H1B visas, data centers, energy prices, and his comments about how the socialist government sees your home as a wealth asset. To which people in the crowd responded, we can't afford a home.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

Great. Also, isn't the whole premise of our economy that your home is like a wealth asset? Right?

[Nick Turturro]

Like yeah, no, that's socialism, Robert.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

Doesn't everyone that owns a home see their home that way? Isn't that like the. How all of the US economy is predicated on.

[Hayes Davenport]

I cannot emphasize this enough literally, this distinction between, between your house as a wealth asset and your house and you living in it. This is chapter one of Capital.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

That's a wild statement.

[Nancy Glass]

Literally.

[Nick Turturro]

Well, exactly. That is communism. Yeah, that is, I think, I think that that is exactly Ramaswamy's point. Throughout this 14 minute speech, he, he tried to say that like the true divide in this country isn't, isn't Democrats versus Republicans, but winners versus whiners. So why would you be a whiner and complain about all these things when you could just win? And this actually mirrors one of Haley Steven's kind of late campaign tactics to refer to people to her left as being part of the quote, unquote, complaining class. Any, like dsa, any kind of socialist person is part of the complaining class. Anyone talking about, you know, aipac, Israel, they're just complaining. Did not work out for Stevens as, as we know. And this might not work out for Ramaswamy either. Last month, the Cook Political Report switched the Ohio gubernatorial race in from Lean's Republican to toss up. And the latest New York Times Sienna poll from late July has the race in a tie. All I have to add is that it's funny. Yeah, it is funny.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

And I picture him walking around the

[Nick Turturro]

RNC like once a month.

[Nancy Glass]

He looked like a sad little guy.

[Nick Turturro]

Not that little. His hair was very tall.

[Hayes Davenport]

His hair was very tall.

[Nancy Glass]

His veneers were, were very bright.

[Nick Turturro]

Veneering in the presidential race. You know, me and Robert were talking about how much, you know, Ramaswami was trying to go after the sort of like, like groiper type of young, young conservative. Right. That, that was kind of what his like, affect, that's a lot of stuff he was talking about seemed, seemed to be rooted in. And at this, you know, young conservative convention, he was like loudly rejected. Right. This is the type of person that he's like, trying the most to appeal to in some ways, or at least used to. This was also the case when he, when he was doing campaign events with Charlie Kirk, one of which I went to in Georgia before the presidential election. But he was, he was definitely trying to go after this sort of like young male Republican and like get, make sure you mobilize them to the polls. Like that could be the thing that tips over the race is like getting like young Republican males. And at least for the gubernatorial race, his strategy of like, you know, it's up to you to fix everything. Actually, millennials are going to be fine. Don't complain too much. Might not actually help mobilize young voters in support of his campaign. So we will see how that goes come November. Let's pivot to ads and then return for some prediction market and tariff news. Two great tastes that go great together.

[Nancy Glass]

Well, it's that time again. Backpacks, first day of school outfits, and the low key anxiety of am I even doing this right? Good Mom's Bad Choices is diving into the back to school season the way only we know how. Unfiltered, funny, and full of the moments other shows won't touch. From surviving morning drop offs to the guilt of missing the first bake sale. Iri told me that she next season she wants to join a club team that's by your house. So I was like, so you want me to pick you up from school? I'll take her by my house. But then I have to take her there and then I have to drive back and then some days I'm here and I have to go pick you up at school and then bring you the I was just like, hell no. This is a space where moms trade their highlight reel for the real real. Whether you're a new mom, a veteran mom, or just trying to make it to pick up on time, this season of Good Moms Best Bad Choices is for you. Listen to Good Mom's Bad Choices from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Bill, why is my eye twitching? Does this mean I'm in perimenopause? Maybe I have adult adhd. I need to look this up. Where's my phone?

[Hayes Davenport]

Juliana, your phone is hot to the touch. I think it's asking you for a break.

[James Stout]

You know what?

[Nancy Glass]

Maybe I should just ask ChatGPT.

[Hayes Davenport]

Or maybe we can ask an actual human.

[Nancy Glass]

Yes, like a couple sex therapist.

[Hayes Davenport]

Whoa, that escalated quickly.

[Nancy Glass]

But okay, because I have questions.

[Hayes Davenport]

We have questions.

[Nancy Glass]

And I bet everyone has questions like, is it normal to sleep in separate bedrooms? We do that.

[Nick Turturro]

How about this one?

[Hayes Davenport]

Is bribing your kids bad parenting or just negotiating?

[Nancy Glass]

Oh, and I still do need to know why was my poop green that one time?

[Hayes Davenport]

Hypothetically, right? Okay, well, instead of letting the Internet guess we've got actual poop people, answering these exact questions and laughing with us

[Nancy Glass]

has got to be better than spending three hours down a rabbit hole online.

[Hayes Davenport]

Listen to Bill and Juliana, the podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts.

[Nick Turturro]

Hi, my love. Starting your day can be tough.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

You wake up, maybe hit snooze, and then scroll on your phone for a while, checking your emails, all before even giving yourself the chance to really open

[Hayes Davenport]

your eyes and breathe. And I want to help you break that cycle. My name is Ryan Weiss, and For the past 15 years I've been an

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

emotional intelligence coach and spiritual guide. And I'm here to share with you my new podcast, Waking Up With Ryan. Waking Up With Ryan is a daily

[Hayes Davenport]

audio video podcast to interrupt the inertia

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

of your fears, your ego and judgment.

[Nick Turturro]

Here to help you connect with yourself

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

before the noise of the day takes over.

[Nick Turturro]

So let's start our days together with

[Hayes Davenport]

a moment of calm, a moment of reflection and meditation, a moment that's just for you. Listen to Waking Up with ryan on

[Nick Turturro]

the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

you get your podcasts.

[Nancy Glass]

I'm Stephanie Young. The hit podcast Love Trapped is back with new updates in the case of Laura owens.

[Tom Stokesbury]

This is CR2025 State vs Laura Owens.

[Nick Turturro]

I think she really believes that she

[Hayes Davenport]

still has an out.

[Tom Stokesbury]

I'm quite confident that they're up to something.

[Nancy Glass]

We're following the case live as the criminal charges finally come to a conclusion.

[Hayes Davenport]

Trust us when we tell you as the victims of Laura Owens, she will not stop.

[Nancy Glass]

Listen to Love trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a commentator or reporter)]

And we're back. So I wanted to talk a little bit more about the munitions crisis. I've reported several times on the growing munitions crisis that the US Military faces, not just, but largely as a result of our war of choice with Iran. Advanced munitions, though, like 155 millimeter artillery rounds, have been stretched past the point of sustainability for years now since the expansion of Russia's war with Ukraine. And so defense officials have spent much of the last four years scrambling to increase production of a number of different rounds. And there were a bunch of articles in like the spring early summer of 2025 at the Trump industry crowed over about how they'd finally met their goal of quadrupling production of 155 millimeter rounds. And a major part of this was the construction and opening in mid-2025 of a fully operated 155 millimeter artillery shell factory in Mesquite, Texas. The factory is named Union Technologies. So that's all what the administration reported last year. Right? I want to quote now from an article the Global Tactical Analysis center put out in February of 2026. The US military is facing a significant crisis as production of 155 millimeter artillery rounds at the Mesquite factory has severely lagged. This shortfall raises alarms not only for domestic military readiness, but also for ongoing foreign military sales that depend on timely delivery of munitions. Army acquisition czar Brent Ingraham expressed explicit dissatisfaction with the facility's performance during a recent congressional hearings, indicating that immediate investments are necessary to correct course and avoid further delays. The logistical and technical challenges at the Mesquite factory may involve outdated machinery or insufficient workforce levels to meet production quotas. Current estimates suggest a 25% lag in output compared to contractual obligations. And that sounds bad in and of itself. That's not accurate. The lag is a lot more than 25%.

[Hayes Davenport]

Oh, boy.

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Yeah, yeah. The DOD office of the Inspector General went out to, like, look into what's going on with this plant and why isn't shell production up to where the administration said it would be? They spent several months investigating and put together a report that was published in mid July of 2026. Here's a summary from twz.com despite receiving close to $500 million from the U.S. army, funded through supplemental spending bills from fiscal years 2022 and 2023, General Dynamics Ordnance and Tactical Systems failed to make a single single sub component needed to produce the badly needed shells. As of last March. Without the 30,000 additional projectile metal parts anticipated from Mesquite facility, the army will be unable to reach its monthly capacity goal of 100,155 millimeter artillery rounds, the report concluded. As of March 2026, officials have not developed a plan to produce the additional rounds that are supposed to be produced at the Mesquite factory. So this means that the US Is producing somewhere between like, a third and a half of the goal the Trump administration claimed they'd already reached. That's a little hard for me to tell. I've heard as low as like, 36,000 and as high as like, 70,000 shells a month that we're making, both of which are shorter than what we're supposed to be. And for an idea of how much of a problem this is, Ukraine, when things are at a fever pitch, can fire up to 8,000 shells per day, which means they're shooting enough over there to account for a year of US shell production in two weeks. And as a result of this discrepancy, the US has seen its stockpile of 155 millimeter shells reduced by 3.6 million rounds over the last several years.

[Hayes Davenport]

Jesus.

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So I was curious as to what had gone so wrong that these fuckers haven't been able to make a single solitary component. Not fucking one. And it turns out this happened because the whole plot to have this mesquite factory, you know, close the gap in production was based on a hope and a prayer. Specifically a hope that the very old machines in the factory would be able to produce modern quality weapons. The IG's report called this a high risk production line, which is not the kind of production line you want for artillery shells, per an article and tasked purpose. Rather than build new machines for the mesquite plant, the IG said the army allowed General Dynamics to convert machines used for M107 shells. An older 155mm round that the M795, which we use now replaced the M795, can fire about 6km further than the M107, carrying a far more powerful explosive charge. But the decision to try the untested production program, the IG said, proved fateful. Army officials believed the mesquite facility was a high risk, high reward opportunity. The IG said the service accepted risk associated with the contractor's plan to Purchase and adapt M107 metal part production equipment. But the new production lines were never able to produce acceptable M795 parts using the reworked equipment, and the army ordered the plant to stop work completely and stop spending money. In August 2025, just months after the Trump administration claimed we were up to 100,000 shells a month and that orders held through at least April of 2026. So we have no idea what's going to happen ultimately to this mesquite factory. But I should note here that our munitions woes go even deeper than a lack of howitzer fuel. Earlier this year, Reuters reporters Aaron Bongo, Mike Stone and Jonathan Landley published an exclusive article titled US has used virtually all of its long range precision missiles during Iran war, sources say. Citing three people familiar with the data, the article claims that the US has used virtually all of our army tactical missile systems and precision strike missiles. The army tactical missile systems are like the older missiles we were using. The precision strike missiles are the new ones. These are our main surface to surface as weapons. And it gets worse. To continue with another quote from that Reuters piece, military leaders have for weeks warned the President that stockpiles of defensive weapons, including Patriot interceptors, which are effective against ballistic missiles, were dwindling, said two of the sources. Last week, several media outlets reported Trump had decided not to launch another massive offensive inside Iran in part because his military advisors had warned about the U.S. stockpile. A U.S. official disputed those accounts, saying Trump's chose not to move forward with another attack because of pressure from Gulf states. Now, based on the most up to date info we have, at least 65% of our patriot interceptors have been used since February and Thaad stockpiles are down by at least 38%. We've also used about half, if not more than half, of our Tomahawk stockpile. None of these weapons can be replaced at rates that are even close to the rate we are burning them. And these are also the weapon systems that we would rely on most in the event of a conflict with Russia, China or any other major power. Which is why so many people in the defense industry are freaking out to the degree that Trump has had to pull back on some of his plans because they are telling him, hey man, if we get into some serious shit and not this fuckery you're doing in the Gulf, we're screwed. Yeah, we can't make more of these. So anyway, the reason I keep beating the drum on like the ammo shortage is because I'm certain that in history books in the future there are going to be pages written about this before whatever fucking disaster comes our way next. So that's cool. Keep your eye on that. The other thing you should keep your eye on is that we have now added a new kind of gambling market to our gambling on things that are not traditional gambling industry, which is I guess the only growth industry in the country aside from data centers. There's now a bunch of different services that are letting people gamble specifically on wildfires and where they hit and how much damage they do.

[Hayes Davenport]

Oh, Jesus.

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Yeah, yeah. And I want to quote from an article in Oregon Live. As Oregon surpassed its wildfire acreage record over the weekend with more than 2 million acres burned, Oregon lawmakers also raised a new wildfire concern Monday as prediction markets continue to allow people to place bets on wildfires, saying it could lead to more human caused fires. In a letter to the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which regulates prediction markets, Senator Jeff Merkley led lawmakers from other wildfire stricken states and Senator Ron Wyden in urging the agency to crack down on wildfire related contracts. The group warned that the markets could create financial incentives for arson. And that's the big deal is that like if you're letting people gamble on this shit, firefighters might be incentivized to fuck with stuff. Regular people could be incentivized to fuck with stuff. We've seen this happen already. Like I reported a couple months ago about that Israeli journalist who like posted a video of a missile failing to get intercepted and like hitting into some trees. And he started getting death threats because people were gambling on like whether or not it would be intercepted and his reporting was inconvenient to them. Shit's got to be happening like that with fires in addition to people trying to start them. If this is allowed to go right. Polymarket lets people bet on not just wildfires, but a variety of natural disasters. People can choose yes or no on as to whether or not they think a Category 5 hurricane is going to hit the United States or like a volcano is going to erupt. It's just a really bleak thing. And there's one of the things that I read recently is there's a. There's even a new markets focus specifically on gambling, on California wildfires called Wildfire. W Y L D F Y R E. Jesus Christ. The company tagline is you can't predict wildfire, but you can trade on it. And I want to quote from High Country News and an investigation into this company. Currently, wildfire users can only simulate trading, but according to the site, the ability to bet with real money is coming soon.

[Nick Turturro]

Oh, gosh.

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The platform purports to be the first prediction market of its kind, pricing county and city wildfire risk in real time. California burns every year and it's getting worse. The question is an if. It's when and where the site reads. Wildfire frames its platform as providing a public good. Wildfire turns collective intelligence into better wildfire forecasting. One trade at a time, the site reads.

[Nick Turturro]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Hayes Davenport]

Oh my God.

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But entities with a real need for wildfire forecasting, including federal and state firefighting agencies, say they aren't interested in prediction market data. The Forest Service does not use information from prediction markets for wildfire forecasts. I don't even need to go. It's useless.

[Nick Turturro]

It's useless.

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And everyone's saying this is an idiot and people of a lot liar.

[Nick Turturro]

It's insane. This, this whole thing, it's like we can chart like the world's collective knowledge

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because money, money is, you know, speaks,

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speaks more truthfully than just words. It's just complete, complete nonsense.

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No, people are going to burn down their own neighborhoods to get rich.

[Nick Turturro]

Yeah, I mean, if you look at like how much prediction markets have been wrong about a sequence of like high profile elections just in the past year shows that this is not useful or reliable data. There is no, you know, hidden truth that prediction markets can, can, can find through the, the quote unquote wisdom of crowds. And like this, this specific thing on these wildfires is like a two pronged issue. One kind of evil right to just, you know, win money based on the deaths of however many people in natural

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disasters, the destruction of their lives, their everything they've built the fear.

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Yeah.

[Nick Turturro]

So like, you know, like death markets is like one, one aspect. The other, you know, aspect is if, if someone has a lot of money riding on a certain wildfire, hitting a certain location, then yeah, there is financial incentive to maybe cause a fire to hit a certain location or try to

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pay someone else to.

[Nick Turturro]

Yeah, there's like that aspect as well.

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It's evil for so many reasons.

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Obviously should be illegal.

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Like it's insanely should be hanging these people. I mean,

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I remember when arguing over whether the market is an information processor that like, like, as you're saying like has like all of this collect collective intelligence from market signals that it's like the most efficient information processor versus arguing that it's a gambling den. Like that used to be an academic debate and now it's just like, oh no, we're doing this on fires and it's just, God, every, every, everything that was once metaphor is now literal. And all of the metaphors suck.

[Nick Turturro]

Yeah, this is pretty fucked up. I know that this was a, this was a concern that was talked about with like the LA fires last year or two years ago because I know there was polymarket or Kalshi betting on those and that, that created like a little mini news cycle of like talking about this maybe being a problem. But like the scale in which this is like accelerated is crazy.

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Again. I used to do like sports gambling ads because I don't have a problem with gambling, like ethically, same way I don't have a problem with liquor and whatnot. And then it just became very clear before too much, oh, wait, no, this isn't your father's gambling. This isn't going to fucking. Like things are well beyond heading to Vegas for like a weekend or playing cards online with your friends. This is turned into like everything. Like this is the Omni culture. It's almost the only recreational activity a lot of Americans have anymore. Yeah, I'm honest, I didn't see that happening. That took me by surprise.

[Nick Turturro]

No, I used to have a lot more kind of libertarian y views on gambling.

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Sure.

[Nick Turturro]

And now I am firmly in favor of harsh state intervention into basically all forms of digital gambling.

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Yeah, I think you should be able to go to a Casino and gamble. But I don't think you should be able to do it on your phone. Like, I, I have turned around on that.

[Hayes Davenport]

No. Yeah. And, you know, and you, you can, you can look at those. There's a whole bunch of data on, like when, when sports gambling gets legalized in a state, like the bankruptcy rate increases, it's, it's a catastrophe.

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Yeah.

[Hayes Davenport]

You know, I mean, it's, it's, it's already devoured sports and it's now just devouring everything that's left of our society until something changes.

[Nick Turturro]

Literally everything else.

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Yeah.

[Nick Turturro]

It's like, what if you copy that model for literally any event happening in the world anyway? Well, at least the economy at large is doing fine, right? Me.

[Hayes Davenport]

Oh, oh, boy. Yeah. So let's, let's, let's check in with our dear friend. And by dear friend, I mean, I don't know if he's an enemy of the show yet, but.

[Nick Turturro]

Recurring character on the show.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah, recurring character on the show. Federal Reserve Chairman Kevin Warsh, who had a press conference to address the fact that in the face of, you know, rising inflation, everyone was expecting there to be some kind of interest rate increase. And he didn't do one. And, well, I mean, the Federal Reserve Board didn't vote for one and he had a press conference that was so disastrous it triggered a giant sell off of US Bonds, which is not good. I'm going to read this, this piece from John Cassidy, who wrote an article in the New Yorker about it, because I think it captures the reactions to this quote. The sell off quote looks very much like a loss of confidence trade, one market analyst told the Financial Times. Another commenter, Dario Perkins, an economist at the research firm TS Lombard, compared Warsh's press conference to Donald Trump's announcement last year of his Liberation Day tariffs and to the disastrous UK Mini budget that cost trust her job as prime minister in 2022, describing them all as occasions, quote, where you suddenly realize global policymakers are totally out of their depth and don't know what they're doing. Even some ex Fed officials, who tend to be more guarded in their public comments, voice concerns. In an interview with Bloomberg, James Bullard, a former president of the Federal Reserve bank of St. Louis, described Warsh's press conference as, quote, a little bit rocky and the bond market's reaction as, quote, nerve wracking for a central banker.

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I don't know, it sounds fine to me.

[Nick Turturro]

Now, a little bit rocky might seem a little timid to you, but for these people, that's like an Insane thing to say.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah. For, for a Federal Reserve banker that is the equivalent of just nine alarm fire. I'm going to read this one last part of it. Loretta Mester, who headed the Cleveland fed from 2014 to 2024, told the Wall Street Journal, quote, I want to feel comfortable that the Fed knows what it is doing. I don't think it's sustainable what he's of not saying anything. So this press conference went so badly that the current analysis from basically the day this happened until now, the analysis has been that actually no, the Fed is going to be forced to raise interest rates just to make the markets take like Marsh as a guy running the central bank seriously.

[Nick Turturro]

Oh God.

[Hayes Davenport]

Economists at bank of America labeled this a quote, central bank inflation credibility shock, a term I have never seen before. So okay, what did Warsh actually say in this press conference that was this bad? Well here, here's Jackson Baugh at Fortune. Quote, he has vowed, quote, regime change and quote at the Fed by rolling back so called forward guidance on where rates are headed and offered no such clues on Wednesday, even talking around, no brainer questions on how to bring down inflation. So what does that actually mean? The Fed usually gives markets some indication of what they're going to do with interest rates at our next meeting to set interest rates. And you do this because you want to give people in the market an opportunity to plan around what the Fed is probably going to be doing. Warsh thinks this is a bad idea. That is very weird. I don't think anyone has agreed with him that not talking to like the markets about what you're, about what the Fed is going to do. I don't think anyone has agreed with him since at least like the 80s that, that the Fed should just make his decisions in secret and not tell anyone. But that's not even the weirdest part of this. The weirdest part is that he's not just refusing to explain what the Fed is going to do in the future, he is refusing to explain what the Fed is doing right now. And that is really, really weird. People just asked him point blank like hey, why did you not raise interest rates? And she just would not give an answer. And that is the thing that has been making it seem like he has no idea what's going on. Now it's possible that this is pure incompetence. I think that's probably part of it. Like it being incompetence is kind of bolstered by the Fed's next move which was to do basically a, I don't know if bailout's quite the right term, but basically to pump a bunch of money into the yen to maintain the value of Japan or to increase and maintain the value of Japan's currency. Now, this is also a kind of cataclysmic thing. The US hasn't done this for Japan since, I think literally it was the reverse Plaza Accords in the late 1980s as a way to, like, stave off the. The just complete ruin of the Asian markets during the Asian market collapse.

[Nick Turturro]

So.

[Hayes Davenport]

So this in and of itself is remarkable. The Z was hasn't done this since almost every economy in Southeast Asia was imploding during. During the end of the 90s. But the. The weirdest part is that instead of doing this by just selling dollars, right, he did it by selling Euros, which is baffling. I have no idea why he did it. No one I've read seems to have any idea why he did this with euros instead of dollars. Everyone is just extremely confused. So it's actually very funny because the thing I'm about to talk about next was brought up as the most important thing the Fed had done during his tenure, and then this happened a few days later. So everyone is just completely baffled by what he's doing. None of it makes any sense. And it not only doesn't make any sense, it's actively undermining itself because a lot of the things that he's doing, you know, this yen purchase is supposed to be about restoring confidence in the Japanese markets, but then the US Is doing some weird stuff, and now everyone's going, what on earth is going on? The last thing I want to talk about with the Fed specifically is because I think I kind of understand what he's doing, at least with the interest rates and why he's not talking about it. In order to get to this, we need to turn to some reporting from the New York Times, which reports that Warsh is trying to reduce the number of meetings that the Fed has to decide interest rates. This is also really weird. The number of meetings to decide interest rates hasn't changed since the 80s. So, okay, why is he trying to eliminate. Why is he trying to eliminate these meetings? And when you put it all together, the reason why he doesn't want to say what the Fed is going to do in the future and he wants to have less meetings, is that there is a Fed meeting in September right before the midterms. And if he raises interest rates, which is exactly the opposite of what Donald Trump wants right before the midterms, this is One of John Cassidy's interpretations, if he does this, he could get fired by Trump. So he doesn't want to raise interest rates right before the midterms. So he's taking a stance of not saying anything to the media and then potentially even canceling this September meeting in order to not have to do this. So that's great. I think it's an argument as to whether the US Federal Reserve is the single most important institution for all of global capitalism. I don't know if you can win the argument that it's the single most important one, but it's one of the most important institutions and it is apparently being run by a guy who is making economic decisions with the entire global economy based on him trying not to get fired. So this can only go great.

[Nick Turturro]

One of the silliest things about that, that purchase of yen, was the photos leaked from the meeting with the notepad.

[Hayes Davenport]

They like, oh, God.

[Nick Turturro]

To do Colon buy US$10 billion worth of yen.

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Remarkably similar to my shopping list the other day when I went to Albert's.

[Nick Turturro]

That's what concerns me is I feel like you should be able to remember

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to buy 10 billion yen.

[Nick Turturro]

10 billion US dollars worth of yen.

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Is there not a better method to make sure that happens in the US Government?

[Hayes Davenport]

I cannot emphasize this enough. The last time we did something like this with Japanese currency, it has an actual name. It's called the Reverse Plaza Accords. It was a transformational milestone moment in what the American economy was going to be because that was the moment the US abandoned having a manufacturing economy. Like, that's the kind of decision that is being made here. And it's being written on a notepad

[Nick Turturro]

like it's just, just, just throw that thing on a notepad. I'll do that later this afternoon.

[Hayes Davenport]

I admit I thought Wash, because Wash had been like with. With the Federal Reserve bank before. I thought he was going to be like slightly more competent than this. But this entire, this entire week has raised this. Raised what I think the odds are of the Federal Reserve completely screwing things up and blowing up the entire global economy significantly. Because if this is the kind of shit that you're doing, like a couple of months into being in office, we are in for a long eight years. Assuming, I guess he doesn't like purged by Trump.

[Nick Turturro]

Posting a picture of Jerome Powell. Hurts like shit. Just want him back.

[Hayes Davenport]

God. Finally, I want to conclude on some tariff talk song.

[James Stout]

Again.

[Hayes Davenport]

Rocking Chasma. Rocking Chas.

[Nick Turturro]

Sorry we forgot to put the song in the last episode.

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They won't forget my Bad.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah, we're do, we're, we're fixing it. We're fixing it. On Monday, half of the states in the union, that is 25 total states, sued the Trump administration over the regime's tariff policies. What is bleak here is that because of the speed that the courts move at and because of the speed that these attorney generals are moving at, these lawsuits are coming in an entire terror cycle behind. Yeah, so these lawsuits are over the administration session 301 tariffs, which were the forced labor, 10 to 12% tariffs on basically all U.S. imports that are supposed to be about forced labor. And as I mentioned before, this is an entire cycle of tariffs behind where the Trump administration actually is now, which is his even more illegal usage of Smoot Hawley tariffs against Canada. We are still awaiting the lawsuit about that one because they just haven't gotten there yet. So it's fun in real time to get to see the stuff I said last time I was talking about tariffs about how Trump is just going to be able to keep using this tariff justification because it just takes time for stuff to get to the court. We're seeing that here. I mean, I guess the section 301 tariffs don't have a deadline, but who knows how long it's going to take to get rid of those ones. Or if you could see a scenario where those tariffs are irrelevant, as we saw with the tariffs that he imposed earlier this year that were nominally about like the US Having a balance of payments crisis where there were lawsuits about it, but the lawsuits don't matter because the authorization expired. We're probably we're going to see a similar thing like that where these tariffs are kind of irrelevant by the time this went to the courts. So amazing political system we've set up here.

[Nick Turturro]

Well, that does it for us today at It Could Happen here. James sent over two donation links for the Spokane wildfires. Both should be at the top of the episode sources in the description. The first one is spokantribalnetwork.org the second link is too long to fully read, but it's for the Spokane Complex Wildfire Response Fund. I can't read out the whole URL, but it should be at the top of the sources in the description.

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