Executive Disorder: Turning Point Halftime Show, Pam Bondi’s Epstein Hearing & ICE Detention of Liam Conejo Ramos

Summary

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It Could Happen Here

Episode: Executive Disorder: Turning Point Halftime Show, Pam Bondi’s Epstein Hearing & ICE Detention of Liam Conejo Ramos

Air Date: February 13, 2026
Hosts: Garrison Davis, Robert Evans, Sophie Lichterman, James Stout
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Episode Overview

In this week's “Executive Disorder,” the crew covers a wide range of news, focusing on the farcical spectacle of the Turning Point USA “All-American Halftime Show,” intense new revelations and congressional hearings surrounding Jeffrey Epstein’s files and Pam Bondi’s role, and disturbing updates on the ICE detention of five-year-old Liam Conejo Ramos. The episode blends biting humor, sharp cultural critique, and deep outrage as the hosts dissect the latest symptoms of US institutional decay.

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Main Segments & Timestamps

1. Turning Point USA’s All-American Halftime Show Breakdown

[02:49]–[25:01]

Introductions & Satirical Opening

• The team jokes about confusing the Super Bowl with the Winter Olympics, riffing on the decline of American pop spectacle ([02:49]).
• Chat about viral Olympic moments and favorite events as a warm-up ([03:37]).

Turning Point’s “Alternative” Halftime Show

• Turning Point USA, hosted by Jack Posobiec, staged a self-proclaimed “All-American Halftime Show” during the Super Bowl, featuring Kid Rock, Brantley Gilbert, and Lee Brice.
• The event was obviously taped, with an audience of ~200 paid attendees in Atlanta—full of fresh Stetsons and unbroken-in boots, as the hosts mock ([06:52], [15:14]).
• The show is compared to a parody ("I Think You Should Leave" sketch); everything from pyrotechnics to audio syncing is analyzed as cringeworthy, out-of-sync, or deeply awkward.

Quote:
“I just want to catch my fish, drive my truck, drink my beer, not wake up, all this stuff.”
—Jacob Goldstein reciting Lee Brice’s lyrics, [12:32]

Critique of Performances and Artistic Choices

• The opening guitar anthem, played by Spencer Wazdor, is critiqued as a limp imitation of Hendrix; even the New York Times is roasted for dignifying it ([10:15]).
• Hosts play audio clips, laugh about the “village fireworks display” pyrotechnics, and the attempt to “rap” mid-country song ([10:04], [11:56]).
• Lee Brice’s song examined for its ham-fisted lyrical references to guns and cancel culture ([13:00]).

Quote:
“The whole repeated refrain of the song is: ‘It’s not so easy being country in this country nowadays.’ That’s... You guys are in charge.”
—Garrison Davis, [15:06]

Kid Rock’s Headline Act

• Detailed fashion roasting: “White fur coat vest,” “acid washed jorts,” “black leather fedora—no safari flaps” ([17:45], [18:05]).
• Audio/visual sync fiasco leads to Kid Rock posting a multi-minute video defending his performance as “not lip synced,” blaming Turning Point’s post-production ([19:36]–[23:14]).
• Hosts speculate most of the 23M reported “views” are researchers, journalists, and rubberneckers, not genuine fans ([24:09]).

Quote:
“As the Kid Rock lights turn on, he explosively jumps onto the stage. White fur coat, acid washed jeans, black fedora. ‘Yeah. I used to be a piece of shit.’”
—Robert Evans, with the team riffing on the stage show ([17:45])

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2. Immigration Protest & ICE Controversy

[28:09]–[41:09]

Student Walkout in Aurora, Illinois

• Large-scale student protest against ICE and recent immigration raids ([28:14]).
• Police violence during protests: video allegedly shows police tackling students; students fight back. There’s a growing call for the police chief’s resignation ([28:14]–[30:45]).

Quote:
“If somebody tackles my friend next to me, I might start punching. That’s just life.”
—Garrison Davis, [30:45]

ICE Officer Negligence

• A 30-year veteran ICE officer discharged his gun inside a hotel while trying to modify it—luckily, no injuries ([31:09]–[32:51]).
• Hosts lampoon “cop gun discipline,” highlighting repeated incompetence.

Case: Liam Conejo Ramos

• 5-year-old detained with his father after school, inspiring outrage; DHS pushed for expedited removal but a judge intervened ([32:51]–[35:08]).
• DHS denials and obfuscation—public statements claim “ICE is not going to schools to arrest children,” contradicting multiple documented incidents ([35:30]–[36:48]).
• Data: Houston ISD lost 4,000 students due to the ICE crackdown ([36:52]).

Quote:
“Obviously, if someone is a sex offender, they can’t work at a school. That’s how background checks work.”
—James Stout, [36:08]

Legislation Against 3D-Printed Guns

• Washington State bill proposes 3D printers must detect and block gun-part blueprints—potential overreach and snooping ([37:56]–[38:24]).
• Discussion about practicality and legal issues: “America is full of guns; banning printers won’t stop crime” ([38:34]–[39:44]).
• California’s broad lawsuit about hosting code for 3D-printed firearms raises First Amendment concerns ([39:18]–[40:38]).

Quote:
“It more or less ends—the thing I find beautiful about 3D printing... people will choose to create beautiful and innovative things even when there isn’t a profit incentive.”
—James Stout, [38:03]

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3. Epstein Files and Pam Bondi’s Congressional Hearing

[44:42]–[65:12]

Ghislaine Maxwell Invoked Fifth Amendment

• Maxwell, serving time in Texas, refuses to testify before Congress unless granted clemency by Trump. Her statement claims, uniquely, “Both President Trump and President Clinton are innocent of any wrongdoing. Ms. Maxwell alone can explain why...” ([45:07]–[46:48]).

Quote:
“If this committee and the American public truly want to hear the unfiltered truth... Ms. Maxwell is prepared to speak fully and honestly if granted clemency by President Trump.”
—Read aloud from Maxwell’s statement, [46:48]

Casey Wasserman Fallout

• Big-name athletes and entertainers cut ties after Wasserman’s repeated communication with Epstein. He refuses to step down from chairing LA 2028 Olympics, despite calls from elected officials ([47:16]–[48:49]).

The Congressional “Pedo Files” Hearing: Pam Bondi

• Attorney General Pam Bondi grilled by Congress regarding the DOJ’s handling of Epstein evidence and victim privacy ([49:44]–[62:55]).
• Key complaints:
  • DOJ doxxed victims by exposing names, while redacting abusers’ names.
  • Bondi evaded accountability, refused to face victims, and repeatedly deflected (talking about stock market success, accusing questioners of anti-semitism, etc.).
  • At no point did she apologize or answer directly.

Quote:
“In the half you did produce, you redacted the names of abusers, enablers, accomplices, and co-conspirators... But you published their names, their identities, their images, on thousands of pages for the world to see... This performance screams coverup.”
—Rep. Raskin, [50:15–51:59]

Quote:
“The government, despite being told to not out these survivors, did it, but covered the names of the people that committed these crimes. It is unspeakably disgusting.”
—Sophie Lichterman, [51:59]

Host & Lawmaker Reactions

• Reenactment of Bondi’s evasive tactics; bringing in unrelated stats like the Dow, accusing congressmembers of ulterior motives, and weaponizing personal histories ([57:12]–[59:54]).
• Investigation: Direct evidence tying Trump to Epstein through files and witness statements; Bondi adamantly denies all, deflects, and is accused by lawmakers of lying under oath ([60:21]–[62:55]).
• The hosts are visibly upset, emphasizing the long-term trauma to victims, gross miscarriage of justice, and broader political impunity.

Quote:
“Pam Bondi is one of the most despicable people in the world. To get up there with survivors in the room and to not look at them, to not answer a single question and to continuously deflect and lie, it’s impossibly disgusting and very, very, very sad.”
—Sophie Lichterman, [64:08]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “The All-American Halftime Show now boasts 23 million views... a lot of these are also people like me and other researchers for sure, just curious Americans interested in what they had to throw together.” ([24:09] Robert Evans)
• “This whole performance was an I Think You Should Leave sketch” ([09:01] Robert Evans)
• “You are the Attorney General of the United States and you are a fucking piece of shit.” ([58:12] Sophie Lichterman, at Bondi)
• “We have to keep talking about it. Sorry, I’m just very upset. Pam Bondi—she is one of the most despicable people in the world.” ([64:05] Sophie Lichterman)

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Conclusion: End Notes & Tone

The episode closes on notes of exhaustion and outrage. The hosts admit this was a “real bummer of an ending”—appropriate given the gravity and horror of the Epstein cover-up and victim re-exposure.

Key takeaways:

• Right-wing attempts to generate “counterculture” spectacles (Turning Point’s halftime show) are both embarrassing and revealing of modern political insecurity.
• The state’s punitive force against migrants, children, and civil rights persists, with dogged denial from officials.
• Institutional impunity regarding sex trafficking and elite criminality continues under the thinnest veneer of accountability.

The hosts encourage listeners to keep outraged and engaged—refusing to let these stories be swept away by spectacle, bureaucracy, or time.

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For More

Contact the show at coolzonetipsomp [at] me for news tips. The hosts will continue tracking these evolving stories.

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This is it could happen here. An executive disorder. Our weekly newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis. Today I'm joined by Sophie Lichterman, James Stout and Robert Evans. This episode, we're covering the week of February 4th to February 11th. It was the Super Bowl. Wasn't that fun. I heard it was streaming on Peacock this year, so I booted up my Peacock account, went to the sports section and was surprised at how few Americans there were and how many other flags there were. And I do not remember this much skating typically at previous. The previous super bowl shows or the ski jumping. But I mean I was. It was still fun to watch people compete.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Uh huh.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Robert Evans]

This is because I was watching the Winter Olympics. Get it.

[Garrison Davis]

It's.

[Sophie Lichterman]

I did, I did. I did get it.

[Garrison Davis]

Good work, Gary. Now, fun stuff.

[James Stout]

What's your favorite Winter Olympics event? Garrison, as a Canadian, honestly, the ski.

[Robert Evans]

Jumping is pretty exciting. They. They really fly.

[James Stout]

Yeah, they do.

[Sophie Lichterman]

That video of that guy that went viral that did like under 6 minute mile on skis. Uphill.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah, going uphill.

[Sophie Lichterman]

That was crazy.

[James Stout]

To be clear, he's not going for a mile. Like he just goes uphill. Like the whole course is like a mile. Ish. Well, but yeah, still, cross country skiers have insane VO2 Max's wild cross country ski. When I get the chance. It's fun. I don't go that fast, but no, we do.

[Robert Evans]

We do need to discuss the actual super bowl halftime show, actually. Well, no, not the actual one, the other one. The all American halftime show.

[James Stout]

Oh. Maybe I'll just say the kid who Bad Bunny gave his grammy to was not the same child who you saw being abducted by ice in a little blue bunny hat.

[Sophie Lichterman]

No, it was supposed to symbolize young Benito.

[Robert Evans]

Him.

[Garrison Davis]

Yes.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Not anything else.

[Garrison Davis]

It really was not.

[Sophie Lichterman]

There was a lot of underlying messages in that show that were very important. But it would be weird.

[Garrison Davis]

It would be weird if he put in a kid that looked like the five year old that was abducted in prison by ICE to give him a Grammy.

[Sophie Lichterman]

It makes sense.

[Garrison Davis]

That would have been really off putting.

[James Stout]

Would not have been a cool move.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah, that would have been bad.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Just to say it was a great halftime show. I enjoyed it thoroughly.

[Robert Evans]

And now Here's a clip of the All American halftime show, the real halftime show, with our favorite Kid Rock. Ready?

[Jacob Goldstein]

Don't you wanna go down?

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Somebody make some noise in here.

[Garrison Davis]

There's, like, nobody there.

[Robert Evans]

This is not. This is not from the show. This is from Silicon Valley. This was. This was a joke that they did on the TV show Silicon Valley, which looks almost exactly like.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Hilarious.

[Robert Evans]

The Turning Point halftime show.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah, I was about to say. I didn't hear that.

[James Stout]

Aside from the jorts, the.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah, I thought that was a new angle. They did have more people in the crowd, but they were hired actors. But they did have more people in the crowd.

[Robert Evans]

Shockingly, it lines up.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Our colleague Molly Conger described his outfit as needed to run out to Home Depot to pick up us part for something. And I was like, that's really.

[Garrison Davis]

He's in, like, shorts and, like a T shirt, has a wrist brace.

[James Stout]

It's great.

[Robert Evans]

We'll get to Kid Rock in a sec, but let's start at the beginning, please. While watching the Turning Point stream, there was no indication where the show was being broadcast from or whether it was live. But four performers sang back to back to back, indicating the show was cut together from previously taped performances. Yes, the venue was this dark, narrow, rectangular room with high ceilings and studio lights. In the middle was a long stage with a small audience on either side, maybe 200 people, tops. But the show was introduced by none other than Jack Posobec, which I will show now.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Turning Point USA All American halftime show. And this one's for you, Charlie.

[Garrison Davis]

Great stuff. So that's the stuff.

[James Stout]

446 down votes on Rumble.

[Jacob Goldstein]

That's rough.

[James Stout]

Yeah, yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

And I watched this. I will admit. I watched it after the actual halftime show because it was on YouTube and there was no reason to actually catch it during the Super Bowl. And by the way, the viewership number suggests that most people who did catch it watched it after the Super Bowl. Yes, because it's weird to pause or turn off the sound in the middle of the super bowl and pull up like a laptop or something to go watch the fucking Turning Point USA show.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah, it was really cumbersome, really, really antisocial behavior at the super bowl party. To turn off the stream. Plug in your laptop, go to rumble.com.

[Garrison Davis]

If you are doing that. Kids have not talked to you in longer than they've been alive. Like they abandoned you before they were born.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Well, President Trump watched the actual super bowl halftime show.

[Garrison Davis]

Of course he did.

[Sophie Lichterman]

There's photos of him watching it, he.

[Garrison Davis]

Knows that this is loser shit. Yeah, it's just about the loser is loser shit that I have ever seen. And right after Jack Bosovic introduced it, it cuts to this. You've got this black stage and there's like an amp on the stage and a guy walks up to it with a guitar.

[Robert Evans]

Not a guy. Brantley. Kill Gilbert. Okay, Some respect.

[James Stout]

That's Brantley. Okay, that's. That's Brantley.

[Garrison Davis]

I was going to introduce his name afterwards, but. Garrison, you missed something important. Because Brantley Gilbert's band is where this guy is from. But the all electric guitar performance of the Star Spangled Banner is led by the great guitarist Spencer Wasdor. Wow.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Who was.

[Garrison Davis]

Spencer was.

[Robert Evans]

Where are they finding these guys?

[James Stout]

Is that a stage name or is that a.

[Garrison Davis]

He's in Brantley Gilbert's band. Garrison, this all sounds like an I think you should leave sketch. Yeah, I'm making up these names.

[Robert Evans]

No, the whole performance was that. I think you should leave sketch. But no, it's beautiful. Electric guitar riff of the Star Spangled Banner opening the show.

[James Stout]

Do you have a clip for us, Garrison?

[Garrison Davis]

No, I. I got a clip to play because there's a moment here. They had pyrotechnics during the show, of course, like the real show had. But they're not good. They were better for the kid rock performance. For the electric guitars, they're just kind of sad and they make us sa little popping stone. Well, again, a single man is playing guitar on stage.

[James Stout]

Jimi Hendrix played the Star Spangled Banner on guitar. But he was good at playing guitar.

[Garrison Davis]

But he was one of the best guitar players ever lived. A little different.

[James Stout]

It does seem like a high yardstick that they've chosen to measure themselves against.

[Garrison Davis]

We'll talk about that in a sec. But I gotta show you guys, you just need to see the pop of these pyrotechnics just for a second. And you, the listener needs to hear it. Is that it? Yeah.

[James Stout]

It's giving village fireworks display.

[Garrison Davis]

That was my shit when I saw that.

[James Stout]

That was it, yeah.

[Robert Evans]

Oh, that's beautiful.

[Garrison Davis]

That's great.

[Sophie Lichterman]

I don't know what you're talking about. I loved it.

[Garrison Davis]

Per what you were saying earlier, there's a New York Times article, for fuck's sake, that the original title it was published under was the All American Halftime featured an electric anthem, unlike Hendrix. Now they changed that title in the Reporter's Notebook article to what does a wailing electric take on the Star Spangled Banner mean?

[James Stout]

I'm glad that they are Getting to the core of the issues. The publication that ignored all my pitches about Myanmar for several years.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah, no, it's good. This is much more important. Let's listen to a quote from this article that I think we can all agree matters much more than a war. In musical terms. Wazdorp's version of the Star Spangled Banner was conservative, too. Despite the bent notes and feedback, it largely stuck to the melody and conveyed a reverent, if stubborn form of patriotism.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Jeez, I don't know. I kind of loved it. What do you mean? No, it was terrible. It was terrible. Hard watch. Hard watch.

[Garrison Davis]

That was the best part of it. I hate to say it, but unfortunately, the pyrotechnics were basically competent for the Kid Rock show, which might have been the only competent part of the Kid Rock Show.

[James Stout]

Yeah, I want to hear the Kid Rock Show.

[Garrison Davis]

I haven't.

[Robert Evans]

I think there's some other hits from this, from this show, though, including. Including Brantley Gilbert's second song, which starts as a slow acoustic ballad and then abruptly changes into whatever this is.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Watch out for those in blue now, the small tatties.

[Robert Evans]

He's.

[James Stout]

He's trying to rap.

[Jacob Goldstein]

He's trying to rap.

[Garrison Davis]

Oh, dear. He is. He is trying. He is. He is trying.

[Robert Evans]

Small town. He said, she said. I'm not going to read into what those lyrics are trying to express.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Whoa.

[Robert Evans]

But that was the second song. I. I do. I want to skip to the third act, which is Lee Bryce. He started his second song by saying, quote, charlie gave people microphones so that they could say what was on their mind. This is what's on mine. And this next song starts like a parody of a conservative country song.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Here's.

[Robert Evans]

Here's the beginning.

[James Stout]

I just want to catch my fish.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Drive my truck, drink my beer.

[Garrison Davis]

Not wake up. All this stuff.

[Robert Evans]

I don't want to hear stunning.

[Garrison Davis]

I just want to catch my fish.

[Robert Evans]

I'm getting a little teary eyed, honestly. Let's just listen to that.

[Garrison Davis]

The next part is insane.

[James Stout]

The next line is, okay, I'm coming at this raw.

[Robert Evans]

This is the next line of the song. The same kind of gun I hunt with just killed another man. The only thing mine ever shot was. Was a deer from a deer stand. That's the next line.

[Garrison Davis]

Are you including that man?

[Sophie Lichterman]

Lyrical genius.

[Robert Evans]

Why would you do that in a song? And the way he sings it is so bizarre.

[Garrison Davis]

It's, It's.

[James Stout]

It's about Charlie Kirk.

[Sophie Lichterman]

I would like to hear it.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Oh. I'm just realizing, like, the same kind of Gun I hunt with just killed another man.

[Robert Evans]

What is he doing?

[Sophie Lichterman]

What is happening?

[Garrison Davis]

The gun violence problem is bad enough that he has to, like, make a comment about it existing and being depressing. He has to do that. But then immediately. Because the next bit after this, the most of the song is basically about I don't want to listen to the news.

[James Stout]

Correct.

[Garrison Davis]

Like, I. I don't want to. I don't want to watch things that.

[Robert Evans]

Remind me that the very next verse.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah.

[Robert Evans]

Is I just want to cut my grass, feed my dog, wear my boots, not turn the TV on and sit and watch the news.

[James Stout]

That's an option for you. Like, you can do that.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Yeah. I was gonna say that's very doable, friend.

[Garrison Davis]

That's entirely doable for you folks.

[Sophie Lichterman]

You could do that.

[Robert Evans]

And I'm sure he is. But this is what he's scared of hearing on the news.

[Garrison Davis]

Be told if I tell my own daughter.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Little boy.

[James Stout]

Oh, yeah, there it is.

[Robert Evans]

Of the creek in this cancel your ass world.

[James Stout]

But then he said it. He put it in a song.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Oh, my God. I almost choked.

[Garrison Davis]

Wow.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

Again, man.

[James Stout]

You're.

[Garrison Davis]

You're being paid to sing about this.

[Robert Evans]

It's amazing.

[James Stout]

In fact, it is your job because it's. It's. You're not there for your musical abilities.

[Garrison Davis]

It's your. It's your presumably well paying job. Yeah.

[Robert Evans]

The whole repeated refrain of the song is, it's not so easy being country in this country nowadays.

[Garrison Davis]

That's. You guys are in charge.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Entire song question, question. Who is at this event? How many people? Where is it?

[Robert Evans]

About 200 paid attendees in Atlanta, Georgia, at a soundstage.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Paid attendees, Paid attendees. Crucial.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Okay.

[James Stout]

A lot of, like, fresh Stetsons and, like, Unbroken in Boots in the audience.

[Robert Evans]

Maybe so many cowboy hats in the audience. You don't.

[James Stout]

Yeah. It's like a bar in Jackson, Wyoming. I get the vibe.

[Robert Evans]

So many of them. And you're like. You're in Atlanta. Not many people wear cowboy hats in Atlanta. I'm sorry. That's. It's not like Texas or Oklahoma.

[James Stout]

Yeah. No, I love. I love to see someone in a freshly purchased setting.

[Robert Evans]

The next song after this, after this country one. Well, they're all country songs, but the next song is what I think is a love song that. That goes, quote, sometimes I drink too much Sometimes I test your trust Sometimes I don't know why you stay with me I'm hard to love. Which, yeah, sounds related to the last song you were singing. Maybe a little bit.

[James Stout]

Maybe about.

[Robert Evans]

About bullying your children.

[Garrison Davis]

Wow.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Sick oh, man.

[Robert Evans]

But finally, finally, the main act. Right? What we've all been waiting for.

[Garrison Davis]

Kid.

[Robert Evans]

Kid Rock. I'm going to play a little over a minute for us. We're not going to include all of this in the episode. We're just going to. We're just going to include the I am a kid section. But I do need to show this all to James.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah.

[James Stout]

Because this is fun. I think a lot about, like, there's that Steve Goodman parody country song that you couldn't write today because it's better musically and less ridiculous than the actual country songs that we are hearing.

[Robert Evans]

All right, James, are you ready?

[James Stout]

Always.

[Jacob Goldstein]

My name is.

[James Stout]

I've never seen this before.

[Robert Evans]

All right, that's good.

[James Stout]

Wow.

[Garrison Davis]

That's enough. That's more than enough.

[Robert Evans]

There's a lot to talk about.

[James Stout]

Yeah, we gotta unpack some of this.

[Sophie Lichterman]

He was better at the rnc.

[Robert Evans]

He's flipping that. He's flipping that mic non stop. He loves that move.

[Sophie Lichterman]

But his name is Kid.

[James Stout]

But that's how he got the wrist injury.

[Garrison Davis]

I will say the first guys to play had a mic with a pair of brass knuckles built into it, which I did. Like, I think we do need a version of that. That's a full knuckle duster from World War I. So it's got the trench knife on the other side.

[James Stout]

Perfect. Yeah. We can use the French shot. And then you flip it and then leave it.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah.

[James Stout]

At least take a risk. Don't be a coward every time you flip the mic.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah. Take a risk. Be a man.

[Robert Evans]

As the Kid Rock lights turn on, he explosively jumps onto the stage. White fur coat, acid washed jeans, black fedora. Yeah. I used to be a piece of shit.

[James Stout]

Jeans. Garrison. These are jorts. They are cut off above the knee.

[Garrison Davis]

Jordans.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Jorts. And second correction, it was a white fur coat. Vest.

[Garrison Davis]

Coat.

[Robert Evans]

Vest.

[James Stout]

It's a gilet.

[Garrison Davis]

It's a vest. It's a vest. And I should note also that his fedora did not have the safari flaps. I repeat, it did not have the safari flaps.

[James Stout]

But it is leather. Like, like a shiny black leather. Not a breathable hat.

[Robert Evans]

It's beautiful. It's beautiful to see. It is really. It really is. And I think you should leave. Sketch come to life.

[Garrison Davis]

It's so good. It's so good.

[James Stout]

He just.

[Robert Evans]

He just jumps around flipping that mic.

[Sophie Lichterman]

How long does he perform? How many songs do we get?

[Robert Evans]

He gets like two or three songs. None of the audio for this song matches what we're seeing.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Completely out of sync.

[Robert Evans]

The syncing is Totally off. Leading a lot of people to suspect that. That it was. It was lip synced on stage. Poorly. We'll get to that in a sec. But the next song began with a two minute prelude featuring the cello and violin.

[James Stout]

Which is it one of those, like. It's just the frame of a cello.

[Robert Evans]

Oh, James, you'll see.

[James Stout]

I'm gonna see a fucking offense to God. That's a real cello. Wow.

[Garrison Davis]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[James Stout]

That's an interesting outfit.

[Garrison Davis]

Cellist dressed kind of like Ben Franklin.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Why is he dressed like that?

[James Stout]

Yeah. One of the three musketeers is playing cello. For those of you listening at home, Wait.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Gentlemen, please welcome our brother, Robert Richie.

[Garrison Davis]

Robert Richie.

[Robert Evans]

Richie is Kid Rock. Is that his real government name?

[James Stout]

Oh, wow.

[Robert Evans]

They reintroduce him under his legal name for the second song.

[Garrison Davis]

Kid Rocks are not born, they're made.

[James Stout]

Yeah, those people who introduced him, what was their. That was it for them?

[Robert Evans]

Unclear.

[James Stout]

Okay.

[Robert Evans]

They only existed on screen to introduce Kid Rock as Kid Rock the first time, and then as Rich Russell, Richie Russell, whatever. His Robert, Richard, Robert, whatever his real name is. That's the only time they appeared was to introduce Kid Rock both times. Now, after the show, it was revealed that this whole thing was pre taped on a soundstage in Atlanta. And a few days later, Kid Rock released a video addressing the rumors that his performance was lip synced, which he denies.

[Jacob Goldstein]

You know, we taped it. Then they sent me a first cut and my comment was, the sink is off. They were trying to line up first off. If we would have done it, if we would have recorded it and then. And then played like we were singing it, lip synced it, it would have been pie. It would have been pie. The lineup, it was very difficult for them because somebody clearly wasn't super familiar with the song. Also, when I asked him, I go, you know, Freddy raps that song with me, my dj. And they're like, he does what? And I'm like, oh, no. I'm like, yeah. Do we have any cutaways of Freddy? And. And they. No, they didn't. No, he wasn't. We lit up. No. He didn't even have a light up.

[James Stout]

Any TV time?

[Jacob Goldstein]

No, sorry, dog, you can see my silver one. So they don't have that footage now. It's extremely difficult for them to line up. The sink could have been done. If we had more time, I'm confident they could have got it right.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Let's pour one out for Freddy. Kid, DJ, no screen time.

[Robert Evans]

So Mr. Rock said that Turning Point was having trouble lining up the audio with the visuals, in part because the song is actually performed vocally by two people going back and forth.

[James Stout]

Wow.

[Robert Evans]

And Turning Point did not have a camera on the other vocalist. So that's why it looks weir when there's obviously vocals being heard. But Mr. Rock isn't singing.

[Garrison Davis]

And again, the reason why no one at Turning Point is familiar with Kid Rock's music is that even they don't like Kid Rock's music.

[Robert Evans]

And Mr. Rock demonstrated how this is, you know, supposed to go in this video with his DJ, which we do need to see. 30 seconds.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Thank you.

[Garrison Davis]

Oh. Oh, thanks, Garrett.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Garrett, I love you so much.

[Garrison Davis]

No, I'm sorry. Sophie, we need to have a conversation about this. This is in violation of several rules the company has set.

[James Stout]

I just want to call out the fact that there is a pike behind them. And I do mean the fish that has been taxidermied. Yeah. Not what you normally expect.

[Garrison Davis]

I would have expected the other kind of pike behind Garrison.

[Robert Evans]

No, that seems like Mr. Rock's abode. Actually. This feels very on brand for him.

[James Stout]

Is that a drone?

[Robert Evans]

No, it's a deer antler turned into a candlestick.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah, it looks like a deer antler turned into a candlestick.

[James Stout]

Classy. Okay, maybe that's.

[Garrison Davis]

Although from a distance, it does kind of look like a bad 3D printing of Deep Space Nine. Yeah.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Hookers all tricking out in Hollywood. It's for my hoods of the world misunderstood. I said it's all good.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah.

[Jacob Goldstein]

And it's all in fun. Nick, get in the pit.

[Garrison Davis]

You gotta love someone.

[Robert Evans]

No.

[James Stout]

Oh, dear. I'm having a physical reaction. I've cringed with every muscle in my body.

[Robert Evans]

Here's how he explains how it's supposed to go.

[Jacob Goldstein]

So he's filling those words for me so I can bang my head. Keep going and carrying on. Now when I'm doing that, you see me, I'm all over the stage. Who. I'm flipping the mic. I'm down here. I'm over here back.

[Garrison Davis]

Boom.

[Jacob Goldstein]

I know these guys had a difficult time getting that sink together. So I have nothing but good things to say. Not only about Turning Point, but the production team that they work with on this and other events they've done.

[Sophie Lichterman]

My favorite part about live music is when you post a over 4 minute clip video explaining how 50 second video about how it was supposed to go and explaining to people things that don't actually exist.

[Robert Evans]

No, his whole delivery sounds like a Tim Robinson bit.

[Garrison Davis]

It's.

[Robert Evans]

It's. It's so beautiful.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Incredible.

[Robert Evans]

The bad Bunny halftime Show averaged 135.4 million viewers during the show's time slot, and Apple Music claims it's now the most watched show in super bowl history. Meanwhile, TP USA's show attracted upwards of 6.1 million concurrent live viewers on Turning Point, USA's YouTube channel. Due to licensing restrictions, Turning Point was unable to stream the show on X, the Everything app as they originally planned.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Which got announced like an hour before, right before.

[James Stout]

But that's probably why they didn't hit 135 million, because 129 of them were waiting.

[Robert Evans]

Otherwise they would have got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The All American Halftime show now boasts 23 million views on their YouTube and rumble pages combined. The Bad Bunny show is 70 million. A lot of these views are also people like me and other other researchers for sure and just, you know, curious Americans who are who are interested in what they had to throw together. But a footage from inside Trump's super bowl party shows that even he did not turn into the All American Halftime Show. Now it's time for you to tune into these ads.

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[Robert Evans]

Shall we do the real news now?

[James Stout]

Sure.

[Garrison Davis]

So on Monday, February 9, 2026, about three days before we recorded this, there was a student led walkout protesting federal immigration arrests and protesting in large part last year's massive ICE actions in Chicago and students from a number of different high schools walked out. This included students from East Aurora High School where there was a notable clash is the word or skirmish is the word. Like skirmish is what Shaw Local news described it as between protesters and police. There's video and at least from the limited clip of video we have, I wouldn't call it a skirmish. I would call it police getting pissed and assaulting some kids. But yeah, see the rest of the interaction. This is apparently something that went on for a Couple of hours. So I don't know, like, what led up to this? I can tell you the video shows what looks like some high school kids walking in kind of a line outside of their high school. There's some police by. The police are clearly talking to or maybe yelling at one of the kids. And then as the video comes in, an officer just charges in and tackles hard, like a running tackle. A teenage boy, like a child smaller than him. Which leads to several other police officers grabbing kids. At least one student punches a police officer in the head while the officer is on top of his friend beating his friend. The police only responded by saying, like, look, you know, we had to act. A student punched a police officer. From the Shah Local article, the police department said the officer who was punched was transported to a local hospital for medical attention for his injuries. They don't show he and his colleagues, like, literally tackling kids first before they get hit. If somebody tackles my friend next to me, I might start punching. That's just life. Yeah. And it's. This is kind of an ongoing story at the moment. I don't know, like, what's going to wind up being the result of this, but it inspired, at least initially, a lot of anger. And there have been further protests as a result of the police violence. Students in the area are now demanding the resignation of the police chief in East Aurora. The police have not really, like, acknowledged those demands yet. I don't know if this is going to turn into, like a larger protest movement. There's some signs that maybe it will, that there may be further walkouts specifically as a result of the police violence. But this is a situation we'll be watching, obviously, seeing police violently beating kids for, you know, speaking for doing the thing they should be doing in high school, which is experimenting with believing things and taking stands.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

So we'll be watching this to see kind of what results next. But that's. That's sort of where we are at the moment.

[James Stout]

Yeah, that video is pretty brutal. Let's talk a little bit more about some immigration stuff. Let's start with. Let's start with policing, shall we? I have reviewed the police report for the ICE officer who in late January negligently discharged his issued handgun in a hotel room. Bradley Shaver was attempting to fix a back strap from his Glock. I'll quote the report here, quote. With his back facing room 320 and the firearm pointed in the area of Bradley's torso, he attempted to remove the back strap that was currently on the firearm while it was still loaded. At some point the firearm discharged. Luckily, the occupant of that room had just checked into the hotel and was walking to their room when the shot was fired, so there was no one injured. I will quote again from the report. Initially the agent thought the gunshot came from somewhere else and he yelled shots fired and then told his wife he had to go and hang up. Schaeber then felt heat on the left side of his body, looked down and saw the damage to his shirt and realized the shot had come from his own weapon. He said the round went through his sweatshirt and the shirt underneath, but did not penetrate his under armour compression layer or injure him. It seems like this person was attempting to repair or remove a part from his gun that was still loaded and he didn't think to unload the gun.

[Garrison Davis]

All of this is stuff you shouldn't do, right?

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

You have to check before you do stuff to a gun to make sure it's unloaded. And even when you've checked to make sure it's unloaded, you should still act like it's loaded and do stuff like not have your finger on the trigger and make sure it's clear of a holster so that there's nothing that like especially like a leather holster where maybe stuff could get bowed in and pull the trigger. You just don't do any of the things he was doing with a gun. Especially if you're a co op. But also you do all the things he did with a gun if you're a cop. Because this happens regularly.

[James Stout]

Yeah. This case. A 30 year veteran who had just returned after two years of retirement. I want to talk a little bit now about Liam Conejo Ramos. This is the 5 year old who was detained in Minneapolis last month. People will remember seeing images of him in like a blue bunny. Ha. Liam and his father were detained on 20 January in his driveway after returning from school. They were order released by Judge Fred Beery who wrote in his order quote. Observing human behavior confirms that for some among us the perfidious lust for unbridled power and the imposition of cruelty in his quest know no bounds and are bereft of human decency and the rule of law be damned. You could tell the judge was incredibly pissed off at the government. I'll put it that way. DHS then attempted to expedite the removal of Conejo Ramos and his family. But the family were granted a continuance by his judge, Liam and his father. His father is Adrian Conejo Arias or Arias. I've seen like various permutations of his father's name. I think perhaps because some people doing reporting are not familiar with how last names are generally configured in the Spanish speaking world. So I'm not quite sure how his last name is pronounced. But Liam and his father entered in December of 2024 when they were detained. They were detained at Dilly. Dilly is a detention center for families. Right. It is a place that I have reported on before. In my Darien follow up series, I spoke about Primrose and Kimberly who were both detained at Dilly, and they went into some detail about the conditions there. I'm glad to see that Dilly is getting more attention in sort of bigger, more legacy media outlets now. I also saw that there was a protest at Dilley seemingly while Liam was there. And we can see this because of drone footage of people walking out of the buildings and assembling in sort of spaces in between the buildings and they can be heard chanting in some of that footage. Now I want to move on to something I've seen DHS doing recently, which is they're trying to push back against the evidence that they are using schools and children as bait to detain non citizens. Right. I just spoke about how Liam was detained. Right. It was the fact that he was at school that allowed those agents to. To target his father. Right. I believe they got Liam to knock on the door and his dad came out, which obviously was part of the reason that this particular detention was so controversial. DHS in a post on X, said, quote, ice is not going to schools to arrest children. A dangerous illegal alien felon fleeing into a school or a child sex offender working as an employee may create a situation where an arrest is made to protect public safety. Criminals are no longer able to hide in America's schools to avoid arrest. Potus, Trump and Secretary Noem trust our brave law enforcement to use common sense. We will not tie the hands of law enforcement officers. They must be allowed to protect children from public safety threats. Obviously, if someone is a sex offender, they can't work at a school.

[Garrison Davis]

Right.

[James Stout]

That's how background checks work. The DHS tweet includes a screenshot of a Houston Chronicle article which details how HISD has lost 4,000 students due to the ice crackdown. Right. This is students who are for the most part afraid to come to school. And they've seen a 22% decline in migrant student enrollment. Obviously. I just want to note that ICE has detained parents outside schools. And a notable incident last year, they detained a 15 year old disabled boy in Los Angeles. Finally, from me, I want to talk about some legislation that is being proposed in the state of Washington. The State of Washington's House Bill 2321 proposes legislation that focuses on what it calls blocking features that must be integrated into 3D printers to prevent their use in creating firearms. Blocking features are, I'm quoting here, a software controls process that deploys a firearms blueprint detection algorithm such that those features identify and reject print requests for firearms or illegal firearm parts with a high degree of reliability and cannot be overridden or otherwise defeated by a user with significant technical skill. What this would effectively do do is either prevent the sale of 3D printers in Washington state, or install state level spyware onto 3D printers which would obviously be able to be used for things far beyond firearms. And people have notably been 3D printing whistles a great deal in Minneapolis right there. So there's been lots of coverage of this. I think it would be very naive for people to think that this would start and end with the creation of UN registered firearms.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah, no, they'll go. I mean they'll do stuff shit like try to enforce games, workshops, copyrights and stop them from printing models or whatever.

[James Stout]

Exactly right. Like it opens a whole world of IP enforcement in 3D printing. It more or less ends. The thing that I find beautiful about 3D printing is not that like I can make little plastic things in my office. It's that it shows me that people will choose to create beautiful and innovative things even when there is not a. A profit incentive for doing so. Yes.

[Garrison Davis]

And here's the thing. It would be a different discussion if this were a country where the only way to get a gun was to 3D print it. But it's not.

[James Stout]

Yes, Washington State.

[Garrison Davis]

Right.

[James Stout]

You do not have to drive that far from Washington state to a state where it would be perfectly legal to do a private party transfer in the Walmart parking lot. Yep.

[Garrison Davis]

And also there's just a lot of guns in Washington like there are in Oregon, like there is everywhere in the country. And to the extent that 3D printed firearms are used for crime, they tend to be used like specifically in gang crime where if the 3D printed gun isn't available, the professional criminals will access a separate gun. Americans are not overwhelmingly using 3D printed firearms to shoot up schools. They're using perfectly normally purchased firearms to shoot up schools.

[James Stout]

Rules. Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

That's what we do.

[James Stout]

Because this country is full of guns. Yeah. The state of California is also pursuing a case against 3D printed firearms code hosting websites. California passed an extremely broad law last year that prohibits the hosting, distribution and promotion of the, quote, unlawful manufacture of firearms. This has significant repercussions for the first amendment right. Like the code itself is not a tangible thing. It's not a gun. It is speech. But in this case, it is the instructions that allow the machine to create gun.

[Garrison Davis]

Right.

[James Stout]

Yeah. It appears that there are over a hundred other people indicted in this case. I'm guessing that those are probably the designers who posted their STLs for firearms on the catalog.

[Garrison Davis]

I think that the evidence also suggests that's unlikely to hold up in court. Yeah, because like right now there's a case over the Kansas laws that are mandating like you have age basically restrictions on websites and the like. And there were lawsuits. There was a lawsuit from like a mom who alleged that despite this, her kid was able to access a website that was located out of the state because it didn't have any of these restrictions. And the judge in Kansas ruled, like, well, our law doesn't restrict people in other states. They don't have to have like this. Like that's. You can't actually enforce this.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

So we'll see how it goes in California.

[James Stout]

But yeah, California's suing for damages in this case. It's a civil case, not a criminal one.

[Garrison Davis]

Sure.

[James Stout]

But still, I mean, there have been a lot of cases about 3D printed guns and how they are covered under the, under the first amendment. So yeah, I'm going to keep an eye on this because I guess there are attacks on the first amendment from just about every angle right now. And I think we should pay attention to that. That is all I have. Shall we take a little break and then talk about pedophiles?

[Garrison Davis]

Sure. I love talking, talking about pedophiles.

[James Stout]

That's what we do.

[Jacob Goldstein]

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[Sophie Lichterman]

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[Jacob Goldstein]

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[Sophie Lichterman]

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[Jacob Goldstein]

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[Sophie Lichterman]

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[Garrison Davis]

We're back. This is another, yet another episode of the Pedo Files.

[James Stout]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sophie Lichterman]

I volunteered to do this section. These are Epstein updates as of today, which is Wednesday. Yeah, February 11th. There were quite a few things.

[Garrison Davis]

We just finished recording a four parter on him for Bastards. And there's more new shit. Yeah, it just keeps coming.

[Sophie Lichterman]

It is endless, it really is. I want to start off which at the top of the week Elaine Maxwell was supposed to speak to the House Oversight Committee and she was called in for questioning. And during a video call, just so folks know, she is serving a 20 year sentence for sex trafficking at a federal prison camp in Texas. But she invoked her fifth amendment right to avoid answering questions that would be self incriminating. This was expected but her lawyer's statement was interesting so I'm gonna read it to to the audience now. Now members of the committee, on my advice Glenn Maxwell respectfully invoke her fifth amendment right to silence and decline to answer your questions today even though she would very much like to answer your questions. She must remain silent because Ms. Maxwell has a habeas petition currently pending that demonstrates that her conviction rests on a fundamentally unfair trial. For example, jurors lied during void year to secure seats on the jury and the government promised immunity and then broke that promise. Newly disco's documents now demonstrate these facts conclusively. If this committee in the American public truly want to hear the unfiltered truth about what happened, there is a straightforward path. Ms. Maxwell is prepared to speak fully and honestly if granted clemency by President Trump. Sure, only she can provide the complete account. Some may not like what they hear, but the truth matters. For example, both President Trump and President Clinton are innocent of any wrongdoing. Ms. Maxwell alone can explain why and the public is entitled to that explanation. Thank you.

[Garrison Davis]

Look, I'll talk to Donald Trump if I can get immunity for some things.

[Sophie Lichterman]

She's like by the way would love.

[Garrison Davis]

To speak gonna need immunity.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Yeah, the guy that could grant me clemency, I can vouch for that guy.

[Garrison Davis]

That's the most doesn't commit crimes thing a person could possibly say.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Wild. Yeah, I'm moving on to. To another guy that was all over the Epstein files. Casey Wasserman.

[Garrison Davis]

Casey was.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Robert just said that like he knew the guy.

[Garrison Davis]

Oh yeah, I know that's what I always called him.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Casey Wasserman. He's the founder and CEO of Wasserman, which is a talent agency slash sports marketing agency. And the reason I'm bringing this up is for. For two reasons. There's two things I want to discuss here. The first one is that since this got announced, he's had major clients, major stars as well as athletes. Say that's gross and I'm not going to work with you anymore. And I've left the agency, which is fucking cool.

[Garrison Davis]

Which is good. It's what you should do if you find out that you are working for someone in the Epstein files. Yeah.

[Robert Evans]

Someone who was specifically communicating consistently with Epstein after his conviction. Right. A lot of people who are named in the files.

[Garrison Davis]

A lot of random journalists whose articles got shared in the files or something that. Yes, yes.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Big name stars here. We're talking like Chapel Rowan, Chappelle Roan. You're so annoying. Like Chapel Roan was probably the first big name to be like, ew, I'm out.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah.

[Sophie Lichterman]

And another big part of this is Casey Wasserman is leading the Preparations for the 2028 Summer Olympic Games that are going to be located in Los Angeles. And per Fox LA, the LA 2028 board officially supported Chair Casey Wasserman on Wednesday, rejecting calls for his recognition following an independent misconduct review. While multiple LA elected officials demanded he step down, the board cited his strong leadership and cooperations as reasons for his retention. Ew.

[Robert Evans]

I can't believe the good name of the Olympics finally has a stain on its record.

[James Stout]

Right? Yeah. Who would have thought?

[Garrison Davis]

Can you imagine the Olympics being associated with a bad.

[Robert Evans]

I love the Olympics. This sucks. How will I watch trampoline?

[Garrison Davis]

Uh huh. What about luge? Wait, no. That's only in the winter.

[Robert Evans]

That's happening right now.

[James Stout]

That's already happening. Yeah, you can watch luge.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah, you're right. You're right. The one good sport in the Olympics is already happening. So we're fine.

[James Stout]

We have to be clear on this. Luge has no links to the Jeffrey Epstein files that we know of.

[Robert Evans]

The Italian Luge Olympics. Completely clean, no problems.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Now I want to move on to probably the biggest story of the week, which is Attorney General Pam Bondi took heated questions from lawmakers in a competitive congressional hearing over the Justice Department's handling and the files related to Jeffrey Epstein that exposed sensitive private information about victims despite redaction efforts per the ap.

[Garrison Davis]

She.

[Robert Evans]

She frame mogged everyone at this hearing.

[Sophie Lichterman]

In my opinion, this was the most outrageously unprofessional, shameful, censurable and sickening congressional hearing. And in History and she is a disgrace and disgusting. And yeah, I want to get into a little bit of it. I want to start by playing a clip from Representative Raskin. He's the Democratic Congressman from Maryland and he is the Democratic ranking House member of the Committee on the Judiciary.

[Jacob Goldstein]

You're running a massive Epstein cover up right out of the Department of Justice. You've been ordered by subpoena and by Congress to turn over 6 million documents, photographs and videos in the Epstein files. But you've turned over only 3 million. You say you're not turning over the other 3 million because they're somehow duplicative. But we know that there are actual memos of victim statements in there. And you also took down the Department of Justice's prosecution memo from 2019. So it's clearly not all duplicative. But even if it were, why not release it? Just release all the duplicative stuff. In the half you did produce, you redacted the names of abusers, enablers, accomplices and co conspirators apparently to spare them embarrassment and disgrace, which is the exact opposite of what the law ordered you to do. Even worse, you shockingly failed to redact many of the victims names, which is what you were ordered to do by Congress. Some of the victims had come forward publicly, but many had not. Many had kept their torment private, even from family and friends. But you published their names, their identities, their images on thousands of pages for the world to see. So you ignored the law. And Even with over 100,000 employees at your disposal, you acted with some mixture of staggering incompetence, cold indifference and jaded cruelty towards more than 1000 victims. Raped, abused and trafficked. This performance screams cover up.

[Sophie Lichterman]

I can't even begin to describe how vile and disgusting it is that they have doxxed these survivors of Epstein without their consent. Yeah, it is traumatizing enough that they had to endure this. Now they've had what happened to them put on display and now they are going to be targeted. And they have not had the ability to speak up if they wanted to on what happened. But the government, despite being told to not out these survivors, did it, but covered the names of the people that committed these crimes. It is unspeakably disgusting. Sorry.

[Garrison Davis]

Well, I feel great.

[Sophie Lichterman]

It's really upsetting. Yeah, it's really deeply disgusting and upsetting for sure. I thought ranking member Raskin spoke very clearly here and I appreciated his statement.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Moving on. Bondi's tactics during this were to deflect, deflect, deflect. There was A couple instances that I want to play for everyone now.

[James Stout]

Yeah, you could assign this to a class. And like, like, if you're talking about every way that like the modern Republican Party tries to deflect culpability for anything negative, like they all got deployed one after the other in this.

[Sophie Lichterman]

So there were Epstein survivors in person and Bondi wouldn't even look at them. I want to play a clip from when she's asked to address them here to the survivors in the room. If you are willing, please stand. And if you are willing, please raise your hands. If you have still not been able to meet with this Department of Justice, please know for the record that every single survivor has raised their hand. Attorney General Bondi, you apologize to the survivors in your opening statement for what they went through at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein. Will you turn to them now and apologize for what your Department of Justice has put them through with the absolutely unacceptable release of the Epstein files and their information. Congresswoman, you set before Merrick Garland sat in this chair twice. Attorney General Bond. Can I finish my answer?

[Garrison Davis]

No.

[Sophie Lichterman]

I'm going to reclaim my time. Because I asked you the Attorney General question. Attorney General like to answer which is will you turn to the survivors? This is not about anybody that came before you. It is about you taking responsibility for your Department of Justice and the harm that it has done to the survivors who are standing right behind you and are waiting for you to turn to them and apologize for what your Department of Justice is members.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Members get to ask the question. Questions. The witness gets to answer in the way they want to answer the Attorney General.

[Sophie Lichterman]

That's not accurate, Mr. Chairman, because she doesn't like the answer. So, Mr. Chairman, why I have asked. She asked Merrick Garland this. I'm reclaiming my time when I will claim my time. Get in the gutter for her theatrics.

[Jacob Goldstein]

The time belongs to.

[Robert Evans]

The time belongs to. The gentlelady. The gentle lady has 17 seconds.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Thank you. You're not going to answer this question, so let me just. Chairman, I'll direct it to you. What a massive. No, I'm answering a question.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Will you restore her time?

[Sophie Lichterman]

The witnesses interrupted her with this woman. She's doing the action. Let me have my time.

[Jacob Goldstein]

The gentlelady from Washington controls the time. The gentle lady has 17 seconds. You can proceed with your final 17 seconds.

[Sophie Lichterman]

What a massive cover up this has been and continues to be. Donald Trump made the release of the Epstein files the center of his political campaign because he thought it would benefit him. Then you got into office. Attorney General claimed to have a client list. Regular order say that there was no list. Your deputy, Todd Blanch met alone time with the gentle lady. Maxwell, Time of the gentle lady has expired to a minimum security prison. And now you continue the COVID up. I wish that you would turn around to the survivors who are standing right behind you. And on a human level.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Chairman recognizes the chair.

[Garrison Davis]

Oh man.

[Jacob Goldstein]

The gentle ladies. You have no time to yield back. We appreciate the thought.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Despicable. Disgusting.

[Garrison Davis]

Despicable.

[Sophie Lichterman]

She did not ever turn around and look at these survivors that are in the room. Later, she loses it again. When asked why she hasn't indicated any of the Epstein clients and deflects by saying this. The Dow. The Dow right now is over. The dow is over $50,000. I don't know why you're laughing. You're a great stock trader. As I hear. Raskin. The dow is over 50,000 right now. The S&P at almost 7,000. And the NASDAQ smashing records. American 401ks and retirement savings are booming. That's what we should be talking about. We should be talking about making Americans safe. We should be talking about what does a Dow have to do with anything? That's what they just asked. Are you kidding, Mr. Jordan?

[Jacob Goldstein]

Am I, Mr. Jordan?

[Sophie Lichterman]

No, it's not. You are here for.

[Robert Evans]

That's you are here. That's.

[Sophie Lichterman]

You are here for hearing on the Epstein files. You are the Attorney General of the United States and you are a fucking piece of shit. Fucking nightmare.

[Robert Evans]

That's in response to a question about indicting Epstein clients.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah.

[Robert Evans]

She just starts talking about the stock market.

[James Stout]

Yeah. And only did she just start talking about it. She clearly came with her stats. Ready to talk about it.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah. Because the message is it's fine that all this happened and that Trump was involved. As long as the economy's good. Right. People shouldn't be complaining.

[Robert Evans]

It's cartoon. It's cartoon behavior.

[James Stout]

Yeah. Like it's not. It's not even some kind of sophisticated, sophisticated route. So just go and look over there.

[Robert Evans]

This would be like in like a British like sketch comedy about the government like the 80s. Like this is like. Yeah, it is this. It's wild.

[Sophie Lichterman]

It's truly horrific. And guess what? I still have more to share. Here is an exchange and another attempt for her to deflect. She tries to bring up Merrick Garland again. This is with the congresswoman from Vermont. Didn't ask Merrick Garland anything about Epstein. Not once when he was weak sauce. And also I want the record to reflect that you Know, with this anti Semitic culture right now. She voted against a resolution contempt condemning. You want to go there?

[Jacob Goldstein]

Attorney General?

[Sophie Lichterman]

Do you want to go there? Are you serious?

[Robert Evans]

Talking about anti Semitism to a woman who lost her grandfather in the Holocaust.

[Jacob Goldstein]

My time, really?

[Sophie Lichterman]

It's pretty disgusting.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Robert Evans]

That's crazy.

[Sophie Lichterman]

She's like, ah, yes, how can I work in being pro Israel also?

[James Stout]

Again. Right. She clearly had like, if this person speaks, this is what I will say.

[Sophie Lichterman]

It's very clear. She had a material like cheat sheet of. This is how. When this person speaks, this is my dirt on this person. When this person speaks, this is my dirt on this person. There are even photos of the dirt she has piled up on each person. And she had a sheet of like people's search histories. Just unbelievable deflection, to say the least. I have one more clip I want to. I want to display and then I'd like to talk about it a little bit more.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Yeah, I want to discuss another man, Donald Trump, who is all over the Epstein files like former Prince. Here's the video.

[Sophie Lichterman]

And for reference, this is the, the very, very popular video of Epstein and Trump. Worth every Epstein wearing that denim shirt and Trump and the pink tie.

[Garrison Davis]

They're kind of like elbowing each other and talking about ladies laughing.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Laughing at a party.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah. You've seen it?

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Former Prince Andrew. Donald Trump attended various parties with Jeffrey Epstein. I want to know were there any underage girls at that party or at any party that Trump attended with Jeffrey Epstein.

[Sophie Lichterman]

This is so ridiculous. And that they are trying to deflect from all the great things Donald Trump has done. There is no evidence that Donald Trump has committed a crime. Everyone knows that. This has been the most transparent presidency. He's the one who passed those fires.

[Jacob Goldstein]

I mean, claim my time.

[Garrison Davis]

I got your answer.

[Jacob Goldstein]

You said there's no evidence.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Trump asked legislation.

[Jacob Goldstein]

This, this is time belongs to the gentleman from California. Okay. I'm gonna put up another document from a witness who called the FBI's National Threat Operations center because I believe you just lied under oath. There is ample evidence in the Epstein file.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Don't you ever accuse me of a crime.

[Jacob Goldstein]

I believe you just lied under oath. And this is on videotape tape. You said there's no evidence of crime. I'm showing you. Here is a witness statement who called into the FBI's Threat Operation Center. He drove Donald Trump around in a limo. He overheard what Donald Trump said to Jeffrey on his cell phone. He was so angry. He was going to stop a limo and hurt Donald Trump and He met a girl who said she was raped by Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. She later had her head blown off, and officers at the scene said that could not have been suicide. No one, no one at the Department of Justice interviewed this witness. You need to interview this witness immediately. Epstein should rot in hell. So should the men who patronize this operation. And as we sit here today, There are over 1,000 sex trafficking victims and you have not held a single man accountable. Shame on you. If you had any decency, you would resign right after this hearing, gentlemen, has expired.

[Sophie Lichterman]

She did not answer a single question honestly. She did not give a yes or no answer. The Republicans spent the time trying to deflect by. She had like, this sheet of like, well, in your state, this person committed a crime. In your district, this person committed a crime and tried to deflect an in.

[Garrison Davis]

Every which way Congress people aren't law enforcement like, no.

[Sophie Lichterman]

And the Republicans spent the time praising her and praising Trump and touting their own agenda. And this is not justice. This is sickening. I, I what precedent this sends to people who are survivors of horrific sex crimes.

[Garrison Davis]

I mean, the president, they want to send. Just don't say shit. Right.

[Sophie Lichterman]

That's what I'm saying. That's what it sends.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah.

[Sophie Lichterman]

And we can't allow this to go on. We have to keep talking about it. Sorry, I'm just very upset. Pam Bondi, she is one of the most despicable people in the world.

[Garrison Davis]

Oh, yeah.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Sophie Lichterman]

To get up there with, with survivors in the room and to not look at them, to not answer a single question and to continuously deflect and lie, it's impossibly disgusting and very, very, very sad. Very, very sad. Okay.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Yep.

[Garrison Davis]

I don't know what else to say about it.

[Sophie Lichterman]

It's impossibly disgusting and very, very sad. I hope that these survivors get some kind of justice someday. We are not going to forget about them. We are not going to stop talking about it. Something has to give here. This is not justice. This is despicable.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

I don't know what's going to happen or if anything's going to give in the near future, but, but people are pissed and hopefully we'll continue to be, which is, I guess all we can hope for is that before much longer, the time comes around where we can make sure that these people, including the folks protecting them, now pay. So, you know.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

We got any other news or is this.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Nope.

[Garrison Davis]

We, this is a real bummer of an ending. Yeah. Well, that's appropriate right now.

[Sophie Lichterman]

Yeah, we reported the news Gear yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

I love the news.

[Robert Evans]

We reported the news.

[James Stout]

Yep.

[Sophie Lichterman]

James, anything, Anything you you want to plug at the end here?

[James Stout]

Yeah. If you want to email us with news tips, you can email coolzonetipsomp me. If you wanna email us with episode ideas, I will make another email for that but it makes it significantly harder for all of us going through the news tips email. If you just email us with things that you think we should talk about. So we will try and partition those two things off so that we can deal with both of them separately.

[Garrison Davis]

Okay, bye.

[Jacob Goldstein]

We Reported the news.

[Sophie Lichterman]

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