Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #39

Summary

It Could Happen Here – Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #39

Date: October 31, 2025
Hosts: Garrison Davis, Robert Evans, James Stout, Mia Wong

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Episode Overview

This week’s White House Weekly delivers a sobering tour through the ongoing unraveling of America’s social safety net, a heated look at political scandals and the rise of uncompromising populist rhetoric, the disturbing militarization of federal immigration enforcement, international trade and tariff antics, and a window on domestic election anxiety. The hosts, with their signature mix of acerbic humor and urgency, unravel the consequences of government dysfunction, what it means for ordinary people, and why the border is the future.

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Key Topics & Timestamps

1. SNAP Benefits Slashed and Food Bank Fallout (03:35–10:01)

• SNAP (food stamp) cuts hit 40 million people on Nov 1st, the day after Halloween.
• Garrison calls it "grim," noting neither the Trump administration nor Republicans show any willingness to negotiate without sweeping cuts to healthcare.
• Gavin Newsom’s deployment of the National Guard to CA food banks sparks backlash; as James notes, "Many food banks...have refused the help of National Guard members" because people are afraid to seek help when soldiers are present, especially in immigrant communities (04:37).
• Bay Area and Alaska communities especially hit: Alaska climate refugees lose both homes and food stores, now also denied federal help.
• Host critique of governmental disconnect: Robert notes, “It’s remarkable how detached the people who make our laws are from the working class experience” (08:28).
• Call to mutual aid: Food banks themselves rely on SNAP and federal programs; the hosts urge listeners to donate or help with food pickups.

Notable Quote

"One of the biggest problems is how much food banks get food. Also through these programs. Food banks themselves are going to be struggling right now."
— Garrison Davis (06:06)

2. The Graham Platner Political Scandal (10:01–28:29)

A Progressive Rises … Then Falls to Scandal

• Background: Graham Platner’s populist, anti-billionaire, pro-social safety net campaign in Maine once led Dem polls, especially among youth.
• Major scandal: Platner exposed for having a Totenkopf ("death’s head") tattoo, an unmistakable Nazi symbol.
  • Claims tattoo was a drunken mistake in Croatia as a young Marine.
  • Kept the tattoo for almost 20 years, only covering it up after media exposure.
  • Multiple reports suggest he knew what it signified and even joked about it.

"Let me be clear. I don’t actually think Graham is a secret Nazi sleeper agent. I really don’t. I think he’s a guy with really questionable judgment..."
— Robert Evans (14:42)

• Platner’s reaction: Blames Dem infighting, claims conspiracies.
• Youth support paradox: Despite widespread online awareness, young voters remain solidly behind him, showing the power of his anti-establishment rhetoric.
• New blow: News he worked for Blackwater (now Constellis) in Afghanistan in 2018 further erodes progressive trust.

Hosts’ Analysis

• Critical of binary purity tests but wary of recent, unreconciled past:
  "Maybe doing it in 2018 is too recently for me to want him in Congress as a progressive.” — Robert Evans (24:03)
• Fear of populist reactionary traps: Both Platner’s refusal to accept responsibility and the coalition defending him offer a cautionary tale about personality over principle.

3. Escalating Federal Repression: ICE, Border Patrol & “Fash-Wave” (32:43–50:00)

Border Patrol Raids on Chicago’s Halloween Parade

• Immigration enforcement interrupts a children's parade (33:00), using tear gas on crowds, including kids—directly violating a court order.
• Border Patrol chief Greg Bavino (Vivino) is photographed flouting court restrictions, appearing in court in a trench coat described as "very SS-looking."
• DHS is rebranding Bavino as a macho, almost fascistic poster child, producing “fash wave” edit reels of his raids. The hosts lampoon this social media campaign and point out the overtly Nazi or hyper-militaristic iconography.

Institutionalizing Repression

• ICE, under new Trump directives, is having its field chiefs replaced by Border Patrol and DHS hardliners, shifting focus from targeted enforcement to broad sweeps.
• James notes Border Patrol’s historically toxic, misogynistic, self-styled “paramilitary” culture (42:16).
• The name of mass raids: “Operation Midway Blitz” — hosts mock the use of Nazi-baiting language (“Blitz. Really. Blitz.”)
• DHS’s top-down direction is described as a new phase of mass repression, not just against non-citizens but for potential use domestically, foreshadowing further crackdowns in 2026.

Notable Quote

"You can't let this organization continue to exist, nor can you let the people doing this stay free if you ever take power again. There has to be accountability..."
— Robert Evans (37:47)

4. Surveillance, Technology, and Erosion of Rights (52:03–55:09)

• ICE is now using facial recognition technology (Mobile Fortify, CBP1 apps) that determines citizenship status, and officers are "ignoring even birth certificates" if the app flags someone as an "alien" (53:15).
• Technology routinely misidentifies faces, especially Black and brown people, and has been determinative in denying migrants asylum access—misuse likely to grow beyond immigration cases.

Notable Quote

"ICE, using a mobile biometrics app in ways its developers at CBP never intended or tested, is a frightening, repugnant and unconstitutional attack on Americans rights and freedoms."
— James Stout quoting Rep. Bennie Thompson (53:29)

5. Public Lands, the Border, and Legislative Manipulation (55:09–59:05)

• Sen. Mike Lee is using border panic to try to gut public lands protections—proposing new wilderness road-building and essentially opening preserved lands for “border enforcement.”
• The bill would also prohibit sheltering migrants on federal land unless in a prison.

Notable Quote

"Building roads into the wilderness will permanently change the nature of that wilderness and will lead to other losses of protection on public land."
— James Stout (57:14)

6. International: Tariff Drama, Canada, China, and All the Crowns (64:26–72:21)

Trade Negotiations and Symbolic Politics

• Trump’s Asia visit: Given a giant golden crown by South Korea’s president, “the largest crown I have ever seen” (65:06).

• Tariff updates: US trade war with China eases somewhat (rare earth restrictions halted, 10% “fentanyl tariffs”), but remains volatile; symbolic Senate votes to end emergency tariffs on Canada and Brazil will have no impact as the House is functionally shut down.

• Trump imposes new tariffs on Canada after seeing a pro-free trade ad he thought was disrespectful:
  “He just put another 10% tariff on them because he was mad about it.” — Mia Wong (70:21)

• The hosts riff on the absurdity: "I don't know how to do analysis of the fact that we just have a child king setting tariff policy." (71:33)

7. Domestic Governance: Election Monitors & Gerrymandering Battles (72:39–75:37)

• Federal monitors dispatched to oversee California elections sparks accusations of voter intimidation (Gavin Newsom: “This is about voter suppression, period, full stop.” — 73:53).
• California’s response: Assigning “monitors to monitor the federal monitors”, especially notable because of Prop 50 (“revenge gerrymandering”) on the state ballot.
• Deep anxiety expressed regarding the normalization of authoritarian tactics and the use of federal enforcement as political theater.

8. Breaking: TX Attorney General Sues Tylenol over “Autism Risk” (75:45–77:27)

• Texas sues Johnson & Johnson for allegedly failing to disclose autism risks in Tylenol—hosts mock the suit as baseless and leverage it for jokes about pregnancy and drug warnings.

Notable Quote

“Welcome to the resistance, Big Pharma.”
— Robert Evans (77:27)

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• "But what’s spookier than [losing SNAP]? One thing you can’t say about the government is that they’re not failing to celebrate the holiday."
  — James Stout (03:53)

• "It’s remarkable how detached the people who make our laws are from the working class experience."
  — James Stout (08:28)

• "There’s gotta be another candidate without a Nazi tattoo who can say this stuff."
  — Garrison Davis (21:32) on Platner

• "I don’t think having been stationed to guard a place where horrible things, like war crimes, were committed necessarily damns you forever... But at some point he did, and that wasn’t like, the moment where he was like, ah, fuck."
  — Robert Evans (24:26)

• "Kids dressed in Halloween costumes walking to a parade do not pose an immediate threat to the safety of law enforcement officers. They just don’t. And you can’t use riot control weapons against them."
  — Judge Sarah Ellis, quoted by Garrison Davis (34:59)

• "The DHS Twitter account has been doing these little cute Nazi posts for a long time now. They know what they’re doing."
  — Garrison Davis (48:02)

• "All of DHS, we need to get rid of."
  — Robert Evans (48:56)

• "It will be looked back on in the same way that Allende promoting Pinochet is looked back on…"
  — James Stout (49:10) on keeping Bavino in power

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Overall Tone

The hosts blend biting sarcasm, gallows humor, and political urgency. Their analysis is sharp and left-leaning, often lamenting the normalization of authoritarian tactics and collapse of basic democratic and social norms.

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Final Takeaways

This week’s episode paints a vivid picture of government breakdown—where hunger, unchecked militarization, and bureaucratic betrayal become the new normal, while the American political class fumbles basic governance and symbolic outrage supplants real action. The warning is clear: none of these crises will be solved by waiting for the next election, and the capacity for people to build solidarity and mutual aid outside the system has never been more vital.

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For Further Listening

• Food bank resources and donation links in show notes
• Back episodes on border technology, the evolution and abuses of CBP/ICE, and Prop 50/gerrymandering
• Rerun on the so-called ‘Tylenol autism’ panic

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Happy Halloween, and—seriously—good luck out there.

Transcript

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Yep.

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Yep.

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It could happen here.

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Yeah. That's why I'm so good at doing it and naming it. Yep.

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This show covers what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world, and what it means for you and me and everyone else. I'm Garrison Davis. This episode, I'm joined by Robert Evans, James Stout, and Mia Wong. And we are covering the week of October 22nd to October 30th.

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Yep.

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So I think we should start off the bat by the same thing we started off last week with, which is.

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That as you're listening, it'll be Halloween.

[E]

Yeah. Well, that. So on the upside, Halloween.

[B]

Woo.

[E]

Spooky. On the downside, like 40 million people lose their SNAP benefits the next day on Saturday.

[B]

Yeah, but what's spookier than that? Look, one thing you can't say about the government is that they're not failing to celebrate the holiday.

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I am scared of the consequences.

[B]

Yeah.

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Stock up on the trick or treater candy, I guess.

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Steal as much candy as you can out of people. You're gonna need it to stay alive.

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You see a group of children, you run past him, kick them.

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But they're kids. They can't stop you. Yep.

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Hold it above your head. They can't reach it.

[A]

No. It is extremely grim. And there seems to be no indication from the Republicans of the Trump administration that they are going to work with the Democrats to resolve this without sacrificing health care for millions of Americans.

[C]

Yeah. So Gavin Newsom, a friend of the show, has deployed the California National Guard to assist food banks in the state. Oh, my God. Yeah. Like, look, the thing is, when you participate in the largest crackdown on protected First Amendment speech in recent history, you don't get to show up and hand out snacks and feel good. And many food banks, including some in the Bay Area, have refused the help of National Guard members. Right. Because they have this very obvious concern that some people might be reluctant to go to places where the soldiers who are standing right next to all the different immigration agents in LA are now working. And so this will have the opposite of a positive effect in those instances.

[B]

Right.

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People are afraid to go to food banks and going to remain hungry. The consequences of this will be negative. The issue, I don't think, is a lack of person power. The Issue is a lack of funding. The state has mobilized $80 million in funds, but millions of Californians will be going hungry. And because of the failure of state authorities to stop federal authorities deploying the National Guard to LA and to other areas where immigration enforcement was happening, this stunt that Newsom is going for could have very negative consequences for food banks and for Californians who are hungry. Something sick and cool you can do if you have the means and the time is to pick up food from food banks for people who need it. A lot of people might be concerned.

[A]

One of the biggest problems is how much food banks get food. Also through these programs.

[C]

Food banks themselves are going to be struggling right now. So, like, I actually, I did a thread on Lib, on Blue Sky. Where were you?

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Were you going to say Lib? Twitter, Then corrected to Blue Sky.

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I was going to say Libsky. Yeah, Yeah. I fact checked myself. It's Blue Wave Sky.

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There you go.

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You cannot get that past me. I could pick up on what you were doing immediately.

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Garrison Davis, like a viper struck. Yeah. At the core of my AI. My thought process. Yeah. So if you're on. If you're on Skeeter, then you can, you can find a little thread. I made a link in the show notes with food banks that are looking for donations, and you can also use that to find a food bank in your area, if you're interested in that. But yeah, this is a serious problem. This is the. Should be the biggest news story. I'm thinking particularly of those folks in Alaska, right, who found themselves as climate refugees due to this storm, Right. Which flooded their villages. And now not only facing the loss of their villages and their homes, but also all their cashed food. These are people who often would have hunted or fished or relied on storing food for the winter, and now finding themselves unable to access federal benefits, doing.

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The thing that like. There's a representative, Clay Higgins of Louisiana made a tweet today blaming SNAP recipients for not stockpiling a month's worth of food.

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What the fuck? Does he understand how this works?

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He said, try to get your head wrapped around how many pantries you can stock with $4,200, which is what people get on average per year, he says with SNAP benefits, improperly shopped groceries. Any American who's been receiving 40, $200 per year of free groceries and does not have at least one month of grocery stock should never again receive SNAP because, wow, stop smoking crack.

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That's inhumane.

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Dealing with the shit that they talk about is almost pointless because they're all liars. But, like, yeah, as, like, what you said, like, people are on snap for a wide variety of reasons. They're largely employed. They're just not getting enough money to actually, like, survive and feed their family. And like, the $4,200 a year for a family is not, in fact, enough to stockpile a huge quantity of food.

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No, it's not. Like, it's remarkable how detached the people who make our laws are from the working class experience.

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There is no way that guy knows how much a banana costs. No way. Zero.

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No, he has no idea. That man hasn't shopped for himself in fucking 20 years.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. That guy does not know how much it costs to buy a Mac and cheese for your kids.

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And obviously, you know, we here, we talk about storing food, about canning your own food, and there are things you can do even on a budget when you don't have much money to build a stockpile. And that's why I encourage people to pay attention to things like prices at the grocery store when things are a lot cheaper because they're in season. And learn how to do things like pressure can. Right. And pickle different foods and whatnot. Because there's. There are ways that you can. And this is why, right? It's not because you should be doing that or you're irresponsible. It's because we, even when it comes to the social safety net, you know, that we have what little of one that we have, you can't rely on it because at any given point it could become a fucking, fucking football for Democrats and Republicans to fight over and go away. Right? Like, none of this stuff is reliable. Which is why people ought to, if it's at all possible, be doing stuff like that, right? Not because they should have to do that, but because you cannot rely on the government. Right? And I don't say that as like a critique of people or to, like, shit on people. It's just like, it's a fact. It's a fact that people need to increasingly accept because this is not going to be getting better in the long run. Yeah, let's talk about Graham Platner.

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All right.

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Oh, God. All right, let's do it. So talking about a touch of politicians.

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A couple of weeks ago, James brought up Graham Platner, who is running for Congress in Maine, and some ads that he had put out which were really, and I still think are really good ads, not good ads in terms of. They were effective objectively. He raised a lot of money. He was leading in the polls prior to us. We'll talk about a bunch of scandals coming out. He's no longer leading, but he was doing very well for a while. So his campaign, the strategy that he was following, which was largely a mix of talking about and really pushing investments in social programs and particularly healthcare, and attacking the billionaire class in very stark terms, talking about the need to effectively get rid of that as a group of people, like, tax them out of existence. That's a popular and a good thing to campaign on. And the success that he had early on is evidence that there's a lot of legs to talking about that kind of stuff in the way that he did and he talked about in a very combative way. Right. This guy was a former Marine, some sort of fisherman, I think, whatever kind of. He's like oyster farmer.

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Fisherman.

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I think it's an oyster farmer or some shit. Whatever they have up that nonsense state.

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Sorry, manites, they're called maniacs, technically.

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I think they're called Mainers.

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That can't be right. Garrison.

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So he was coming across as a very, like, blue collar guy, right? Like a very. And kind of crude, but crude in a. Like, I'm a straight talker sort of guy. And that worked. That was a good campaign. And we highlighted that because I think it struck, you know, James is the one who brought it to our attention. But I think it struck all of us as a. Oh. Oh, yeah. This is a guy who is kind of doing. Talking to voters in a way that we wish more Democrats were. Right. And then in the last couple of weeks, oh, God, so many scams come out about this guy. The most well known of them is that for the last 20 years of his life, he has had a Totenkopf tattooed over his pectoral. That is the Death's head. Now, it dates back before the Nazis. It was initially. I don't know if this was the very first use of it, but the very first prominent use of it in military history was as the insignia for a unit called the Death's Head Hussars, which was an elite German cavalry unit. I mean, I'm sure. I think they did still exist in World War I, but that was well past their prime. And it was then adopted by the ss, and it was worn by a number by a lot of guys in the ss, but it was specifically the insignia of a unit called the Totenkopf ss, which existed to guard concentration camps and death camps. So having one tattooed on you bad.

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Yeah. Not cool.

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Platner has said basically, it was a Dumb tattoo I got when I was young and just joining the Marine Corps, and I didn't know what it meant. And I am willing to believe that, like, a 19 year old who joins the Marines would make a bad tattoo decision. Because I have a lot of friends that were in the Marines and they all have bad tattoos. Right. None of them have death heads.

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Got it while in, like, Croatia. While drunk.

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Shore leave. Yeah.

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And. Right. And he was. He was hammered.

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And.

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Yeah. The probability of walking into a tattoo shop in Croatia and coming out with a Nazi tattoo is extremely high.

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Sure. Yeah.

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It's not. It's not low. Yeah.

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Yeah. They're on the flash seat for Friday the 13th.

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They probably are.

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If it had just come out that he'd had this for some period of time, been like, yeah, I got, like. I was hammered in Croatia and I got a fucked up tattoo and realized it and got it covered, I'd have been like, not a story. Right. Like, man gets bad tattoo is dumb kid. But number one, he kept it until he got it covered in, like, the last week or so.

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Yeah. Let me tell you, that was a real piece of art that he covered.

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It with, which is a wild choice to just keep it for that long. But also, he claimed, I had no idea until it, like, came out as a story, because I forget what outlet, but some news outlet found out that he had it and was going to publish it.

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And I think his team told Pod Save America when he went on the Pod Save America pod.

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Yeah. But he had heard that there was opposition research.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Because he had sent out to, like, another thing that he went on, like, a picture of him with the shirt off, and they were like, wait, what?

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Like, there were a few of them floating around. Huh.

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If you've lived that kind of life, there's gonna be pictures of you with the shirt off.

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They're refusing to acknowledge.

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Yeah.

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I knew earlier in my life that it was a death's head. And, like, there's reports from people who knew him that he called it a Totenkopf and joked about it.

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I didn't know that.

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Now, let me be clear. I don't actually think Graham is a secret Nazi sleeper agent. I really don't. I think he's a guy with really questionable judgment, which is reason, you know, to be very critical of his campaign. And, yeah, I take a lot of issue with how he's responded to this, because rather than, again, just kind of doing a mea culpa, he's gone on the, this is my enemies in the Democratic Party trying to silence me thing. And a very weird coalition has propped up kind of around him trying to argue that this is a circular firing squad kind of deal. Like, there was a Jacobin article being like, it's fucked up that people are going after Graham and the pod Save guys are defending him. Like, it is a weird coalition that's circling around this fella.

[A]

What do you think the Joe Rogan of the left meant? Vibes, essays.

[C]

We wanted a guy who took loads of steroids and didn't have problematic opinions.

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I'm never gonna say this in any other instance about Joe Rogan, but he wouldn't have gotten that tattoo because he knows what a death sentence.

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I don't know if he knew in, like, 2007 or what. I. I think there's a very strong alternate world where 2007 Joe Rogan is traveling in Croatia, accidentally gets a totem golf tattoo.

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It's not impossible. You're right. You're right. I guess I'm just assuming he's watched enough World War II documentaries to know.

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Yeah, but watching those while, like, smoking weed so he doesn't remember anything.

[B]

That's fair. These are fair points you're making, Garrison. So a couple of surprising things about this, and this is not the only scandal that's kind of come out about him recently. But number one, it did not immediately take a strong hit to his polling. This seems to be primarily just because a lot of voters aren't aware of it, because in polls where they. At where they inform people that he had a Nazi tattoo, his support drops dramatically by like, 30 points. That said, he was leading until like two or three days ago, I think was the most recent poll that came out that had a main governor, Janet Mills, in the lead above him. We're not talking about the. The main race yet. This is. We're still in the. The primary. Right. So he's challenging Janet Mills for the primary.

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Sure.

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And, yeah, at present, according to SoCal Strategies, who did a poll very recently, I think it's the most recent poll, Mills has 41% from likely voters and Platner has 36%, although about a fifth of respondents are undecided. And yeah, this is a pretty dramatic upset because prior to the whole Nazi tattoo news coming out, Platinum was leading mills by about 34 points. So this has gone from Platner looked to have it in the bag to it's pretty close. Mills is ahead not by a lead. That's so commanding that it's a definite thing, you know, a standard polling error. Could have them basically be neck and neck. And we all should know at this point how frequently that kind of stuff happens. Yeah.

[C]

Polling never wrong, but yeah.

[B]

So I don't know. It's one of those. Somebody got angry at us on the subreddit, being like, I can't believe they're hiding that, like, this has happened, you know, with this guy that they endorse, like, never. We didn't endorsement number two, like this. This shit was breaking. When we were recording the ED last week, we made, like, a reference about it, but not much had come out. And there certainly hadn't been time for us to really look into what was going on here. And it's not. This is a main Senate primary. This is not, like, the very top of our list of crucial things to hit the second it happens. We can wait on something like this to see how stuff's shaking out a little bit. No one's voting yet, so it's not like we're influencing the election by not coming out or whatever.

[C]

Yeah. We only get to cover so much. We have one hour of news roundup show a week. And the blue sky Twitter drama about Graham Platner is not as important as the fact that millions of people are losing their food this week.

[B]

No. One thing that is interesting, and I do think this is an important race just because of what it says about what sort of strategies are working now and igniting the base and what kind of stuff does matter in terms of scandals. I think there are some things that are really relevant here. One thing that is interesting to me is that according to a poll, very recent poll, the article came out on October 26, 2025, majority of young Democrats still back Graham Platner even after the whole tattoo thing. And this is really interesting to me because the data shows that in general, among likely voters, his. His potential support plummets when people are made aware that he had the tattoo. But young Democrats are by far the group most likely become aware of it as soon as the story broke because young people are much more online than older people. And among young people, he's still well ahead, which I really just do think speaks more than anything to the strength of.

[A]

It's the rhetoric he has been using.

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Platform that he came out the gate with and the rhetoric. Right. His combative rhetoric is really attractive to young voters, especially.

[C]

Explain your generation to us. Garrison, why you like this?

[A]

I mean, there's a lot of stuff that the Zoron campaign kind of, like, ignited around.

[C]

Yeah, no, you're right.

[B]

Exactly. Absolutely.

[A]

Rhetoric and Then, you know, Sanders and AOC had their, like, anti oligarchy tour, which, I mean, we don't need to, like, debate, like, the use of, like, that term. No, but, no, there is a huge frustration at the geriatric Democratic Party and this sort of populist rhetoric is very popular among young people, as it, as it has been since the Sanders campaign in 2016. Like, this isn't, like, new or revolutionary information. The fact that this guy has gotten to this point has gotten either past scandals or is navigating through it despite his, like, you know, very questionable background, military and military, private contracting, his, like, misogynistic Reddit posts which were unearthed as, as like, an attack against him, which I think he actually handled that scandal fairly well, using it as a parallel to chart his, like, own political journey. So, yeah, I can understand why a whole bunch of young people who are reading about this aren't going to actually care at all about any of these stories and still vote for him because of what he's saying.

[B]

Yeah. And I, I want to be clear. I didn't bring this up because I think it's bad even that, like, young people are still supporting him. I think this is something that people, especially in the Democratic Party, who care about winning. And I think it's people on the left who are trying to look at what can we do to get more progressive and combative candidates who are going to do something both about the right and about the billionaire class. What can we do to actually, like, win? You should be paying attention to this because this, this rhetoric works. Yeah.

[A]

And because surely there's one other guy who can say these things.

[B]

There's gotta be another Caddy without a.

[A]

Nazi tattoo who can say this stuff. You can find one person who could use rhetoric, is good on camera and has not had a Totenkov tattooed on their chest for almost 20 years. Yeah.

[E]

And also I. The most wild part about this, I don't even think is that it's that this guy was in Blackwater. Like, so technically it's constellous, but he calls it Blackwater.

[B]

He was. Yeah. That's the other scandal. Please, let's.

[E]

Yeah, he deployed to Afghanistan for Blackwater in 2018. That was the first Trump administration. No one at any point in this process went. Hold on, wait. This guy went to fight in Afghanistan, like, in 2018?

[B]

Like, yeah, they, they prosecuted the guys from Nisar Square. Yeah.

[E]

From the Nasor Square massacre.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

After the square. Like, those people got prosecuted four years before that. And he joined Blackwater in 2018.

[B]

And to be clear, because this is something James brought up when we talked about this in our chat previously, he didn't technically join Blackwater because Blackwater has changed its name and I think merged with a couple of countries. It was a different name, but to be fair to me, yeah, he called it Blackwater. He said, I worked for Blackwater.

[C]

There's a way in which, like, I'm okay with people fucking up if they acknowledge they fucked up. Right. Like, I'm okay with him saying I did this and it was wrong, so I left and I regret doing it.

[A]

That is what he's saying, though. It was specifically after this deployment.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

That this is where he says that, like, this marked his, like, political quote, unquote, radicalization or, like, during the path of, like, how he viewed his life in politics specifically was negative experiences during this deployment.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. And I. I guess that is something I have really complicated opinions on because I'm. I'm not. And I. I really have a lot of issues with folks on the left who are, like, anyone who was ever in the military is forever baby killer and deeply, like. I think that's. Yeah. Deeply, deeply unserious and incredibly counterproductive. And I don't. I. I think that, like, it's good that someone can do something as fucked up as join Blackwater and realize that they did a horrible thing and change. Maybe doing it in 2018 is too recently for me to want him in Congress as a progressive. I don't know.

[E]

Yeah, it was like, that was. It was like a decade after. Like, he was one of the. So he wasn't one of the, like, the torture guards, but. No, like, when he was a Marine, he guard. He was like, one of the guys who was, like, assigned to guard Abu Ghraib.

[B]

Yeah, technically, after the torture scandal.

[A]

But it's like it took you.

[E]

It took you like a decade after that. Yeah, that maybe the thing I'm doing is bad.

[A]

Like, I just.

[C]

I just. Oh, God.

[B]

Well, yeah, and that's. That's kind of like the. Because I don't. You know, I don't think having been stationed to guard a place where horrible thing, like, war crimes were committed necessarily damns you forever because, like, you don't choose where you're stationed to guard. Who knows when he became aware what was going on in the place he was guarding, but at some point he did, and that wasn't like, the moment where he was like, ah, fuck. You know, And I, again, I have a lot of friends. I have friends who were with the Very first infantry unit into Iraq, one of whom, as they were invading was like, you know, this is criminal, guys.

[A]

Right?

[B]

You know, we're breaking, you know, this is fucked up. You know, this war's bullshit. Pat Tillman was saying that, right?

[E]

Like during the invasion, this guy shipped out in 2016. Like, it took him, it took a minute.

[B]

It took a minute.

[E]

Reasonably long time. And also when you read his interviews about it, he's like, I did because it was fun.

[B]

Which is just like, that's, that's honest.

[E]

Yeah, it's honest. It makes me insane.

[B]

Look, I mean, that's, that's why people join the Marines as they, like, money and, or their adrenaline junkies. Right.

[C]

I'd rather he was honest about that shit, actually. Like, like, I, Yeah, but it's just, like, distressing.

[B]

I actually like that. And again, I do kind of like. Because there's not a, there's not a perfect answer as to like, well, when should you have had a change of heart about something like this before you can, like, be trusted as a political leader on the left? And I actually don't really know. I think I would be inclined to be like, give him the benefit of the doubt on that stuff more if it weren't for the Nazi tattoo.

[E]

Yeah, if Nazi tattoo pledge shipped out with Blackwater 2018.

[B]

Yeah. Those things together are kind of sketchy.

[E]

Maybe do a couple of tours as a dog catcher first.

[B]

Like, you know, I, I, I'm seeing a lot of. Because there's a whole lot of, like, well, no one else who has a chance of winning in Maine is supporting the progressive policies he is. You know, you can't have it all be perfect or whatever. He's, you know, we should at least hope that he gets in and he does the things he's saying and I guess, like, if he does get elected and it's not the most likely thing right now, but it's certainly not impossible, I guess. I hope he does the good stuff he says that he's done. I just have a lot less faith in that, given both what's come out and his reaction to it. Right.

[C]

It's his reaction to it that was really disqualifying for me. Like, there's a world, I guess I didn't know that he told people it was a toten cough. That's pretty fucking incriminating.

[A]

But, yeah, there's reports from people who've said that it's unclear.

[C]

Okay, there's reports. Got it.

[B]

We don't know objectively, but people have talked to the press who knew him and said that he described it as a toten cough to them several years ago.

[C]

Go, okay, yeah. If his response had been like, oh, I didn't know. Let me get that covered up immediately. His response was so bad. To defend it and to be like, there's a conspiracy against.

[B]

Really bad.

[C]

It's that fail. And it also just shows, like, a lack of judgment and a lack of ability to, like, be critical of his own actions, which is worrying.

[B]

It shows the kind of Trumpian fancifulness that really worries me.

[C]

Yeah. Demagoguery kind of thing.

[A]

A lot of populists are like this. Like, this is. This is a part of populism.

[B]

Like, this is.

[A]

I don't think you can fully decouple it.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, that's probably true, Garrison. Yeah, that's probably true. But I, I don't know. I'm not going to tell you how to vote. I've made a habit of never telling people how to vote. So if you're in Maine, enjoy your McLobster and do whatever your heart tells you is the right thing to do, my friend. But also, please don't eat a McLobster though. It's clearly poisoned. You know, avoid McLobsters at all costs.

[C]

Yeah. Buy an oyster instead.

[A]

The strongest endorsement Robert Evans can make.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Is it not buy a McLobster.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Avoid a McLobster at all costs.

[C]

Yeah. If you're on the west coast, avoid shellfishing in some months at all costs because you can get paralytic shellfish poisoning.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I mean, some people that's just basically getting free muscle relaxers.

[A]

James, let's do it.

[C]

Ad break for muscle relaxers. Okay.

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I hate to say it, but I.

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Don'T trust much of anything.

[B]

It's the rage bait.

[A]

It feels like it's trying to divide people. We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little.

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[A]

Let's meet at the facts.

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All right, we are back. Can I do my Halloween Ice Nazi?

[C]

Sure.

[A]

Bavino segment? Is that how you say his name? Bavino?

[C]

Gregory? Yeah, Gregory.

[A]

It looks like a Bavino to me.

[B]

Sure, why not?

[A]

So we're going to talk about him playing dress up and how Border Patrol Disrupted a Halloween Parade so last weekend, while conducting an Immigration enforcement raid, Border Patrol disrupted the route of a children's Halloween parade in Old Irving park in Chicago, using tear gas and arresting several people, including two US Citizens. A crowd gathered around after Border patrol arrested a 35 year old construction worker who has lived in Chicago since he was four years old.

[B]

Jesus.

[A]

Neighborhood residents said that federal agents then deployed tear gas without warning that following Tuesday, the architect of Operation Midway Blitz, Greg Bevino, appeared in federal court as part of a lawsuit alleging excessive force and violations of a TRO restricting the use of tear gas and crowd control munitions. But Vino seems to be flagrantly violating this TRO as he was photographed personally throwing a tear gas canister into a crowd on October 22nd during a raid on a Laundromat and Home Depot. The DHS says that protesters were throwing rocks and Border Patrol issued warnings, though this account is contradicted by video of the incident. U. S. District Judge Sarah Ellis told the Border Patrol chief, quote, kids dressed in Halloween costumes walking to a parade do not pose an immediate threat to the safety of law enforcement officers. They just don't. And you can't use riot control weapons against them, unquote. This TRO requires that crowd control munitions may only be used if someone poses an immediate threat to law enforcement, with agents instructed to give two verbal warnings before tear gas pepper spray can be deployed and to wear body cams, badges or visible IDs. This order was issued on October 9 and to get an idea of how closely this is being followed, Vivino himself still does not wear a body cam and told Judge Ellis, quote, I have not received a body worn camera nor the training. Unquote.

[C]

Yeah, so Border Patrol agents have generally, just to give some context here, not worn body worn cameras for A number of reasons. Firstly, they just don't want to. Secondly, no one is making them. Thirdly, they believe that it is possible for people to detect the Bluetooth signal that the camera gives out and thus find them. This is something that is theoretically possible, as best my research can tell. You can make your own judgment as to which of those factors is weighing most heavily on their choice not to wear them. But they have never been required as a group to wear body worn cameras all the time.

[B]

No.

[A]

This judge is trying to force them to. They're just refusing to follow the order. Despite Bavino saying that 99% of agents have these cameras, which is bizarrely specific claim.

[C]

Yeah. Like.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Is he the 1%? Like, I guess he's like. He's just so obviously lying. It's just.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

Yeah, it's. It's just, it's lying. We. I think we. That should be enough to say.

[C]

Yeah. I don't know if I said they never wear them. To be clear, they have gone forward and back on wearing them. But it was earlier this year. The specific security risk.

[A]

They have access to the cameras.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

They're just refusing to follow this order.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Now, the same complaint that alleged that Vivino threw a canister with a justification into this crowd also details an incident from the next day, October 23rd, where agents, without wearing identification, as required by the order, shot a protester in the neck with a pepper ball from five feet away and while driving away, pointed a pepper ball gun. And I'm going to read from the complaint, quote, and then a real gun at declarant Chris Gentry, a combat veteran who was lawfully standing on the side of the road voicing his opposition as agents were driving by in their vehicles. The agent who pointed the real gun at Mr. Gentry's face said, quote, bang, bang, you're dead liberal. Unquote.

[B]

Great.

[C]

Cool.

[A]

Anyway, plaintiffs have requested body cam footage of this incident, which has yet to be provided.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

And I think it's worth noting that, I mean, they do this every single time there is any kind of protest. They do stuff like this. They've been pointing guns at people the entire time they've been here.

[A]

They've been putting a lot of guns the past few months, as we have reported.

[C]

Yeah, they have.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They have killed people.

[E]

Two people.

[C]

They've shot more than two people. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But saying something like this is insane.

[C]

Yeah. No, yeah. It shows obviously, like a complete lack of concern for accountability. Right. No, like absolutely no thought that you could be held accountable for this.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

No. It also shows a desire to kill liberals.

[C]

Yes. Yeah.

[B]

Which liberals need to be aware of.

[A]

I mean. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. You can't let this organization continue to exist, nor can you let the people doing this stay free if you ever take power again. There has to be accountability and there has to be an end to their ability to the ability of any law enforcement agency to exist, knowing that they are unaccountable and cannot be punished for the violence that they do to civilians. Yeah.

[C]

I guess I'll take this point to mention that we have covered CBP and DHS's previous shootings in previous years and that the internal review process they have for those. Which has led to a lack of accountability even when compared to other law enforcement officers. Yeah.

[A]

During this hearing this last Tuesday, the judge declined to alter the TRO to ban the use of tear gas completely, saying that she believes Bevino, quote, understands where I'm coming from and, quote, I don't know that we're gonna see a whole lot of tear gas being deployed over the next week. Unquote.

[C]

Cool.

[B]

Great.

[A]

Amazing, Amazing stuff coming out of our judiciary.

[C]

Yay. Greg's picking up on the vibe, so we should be fine now.

[A]

Yeah. This Bonvito guy seems incredibly trustworthy, though. Judge Ellis did instruct Vivino to meet with her every weekday evening throughout Operation Midway Blitz till the next hearing in November to provide instant briefings on use of force. Though just one day later, the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals blocked Judge Ellis's order requiring these daily reports in some other Bovino moves. Earlier this week, news broke that top ICE field office chiefs are set to be reassigned and replaced by senior Border Patrol and CBP officials with the goal of netting more arrests to boost deportation numbers.

[C]

Yeah. So the role of Border Patrol generally is to patrol the physical border and to do enforcement in that 100 mile border zone. Right. The role of ICE. The majority of ICE agents are not the people that you see out there jumping out of cars and doing these. These smash and grabs. Right. The majority of ICE agents, people who work in office who will check in with migrants through their intensive supervision program, which is of their, quote, unquote, alternatives to detention.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Both of these agencies, you know, are relatively aligned with what I'll call like, Donald Trump's agenda. But Border Patrol particularly has made a name for itself, like Bevino himself and other Border Patrol chiefs were. There was a time when it looked like they were going to force Bovino to retire. And that time was 2023, a briefing against the Biden administration. Right. Bervino has been kind of particularly emblematic of this new Border Patrol approach. And it is particularly BP that has been aligned just with. With a lot of things that, you know, they had. They had issues getting people vaccinated. Right. Like with this whole kind of political social milieu that is representative of the modern right we see with ICE agents. Like some of these people, I'm not going to say they joined, like, looking to help, you know, make the world a happy place, but, like, they. They are reasonable civil servants. Right. Like, I've talked to plenty of migrants who have gone to there and you'll hear from some of them in a scripted series next month, gone to their ICE check. Ins have been like, that was fine. That person was professional. They seemed genuinely concerned for things I'm facing. And, you know, I was not unduly harassed, made to feel uncomfortable, etc. Etc.

[A]

Now, the Border Patrol agents are, like, particularly brutal.

[C]

I have not heard that same. That was a reasonable professional about Border Patrol agents from migrants. Border Patrol also has a pretty high churn.

[B]

Right.

[C]

So they have a lot of people who have joined since, let's say, the first Trump Admin.

[B]

Yeah. And that may kind of change things because those people are joining specifically because they want to fuck with migrants. And while that's always been a thing for Border Patrol, a lot of people joined Border Patrol because it's the easiest way to become technically a federal agent.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And it can be a path to becoming a better kind of federal agent.

[C]

Sure. You can move.

[B]

It's a career thing. Which is part of why there's so.

[C]

Much churn, part of why bp, just to, like, characterise some of the issues the organization has had. Right. Has consistently offered waivers, like the academic qualifications that other agencies would not offer waivers for. They have a problem, a serious problem, with sexual assault, not just of migraine, but of women in the Border Patrol. They call the women in the Border patrol the fierce 5%. Because this is an agency that has not succeeded in getting more than 5% of its agents to be women. Like, it is an agency that has, I guess, for want of a better term, radicalized even. Even, you know, within DHS agencies.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, all of the most brutal incidents of use of force in, like, Portland in 2020 that came from Feds was Border Patrol.

[B]

That was Bortech.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. I would encourage people, if they want to get a sense of how Border Patrol sees itself, to go to the social media page that Bovino curates and has curated for a while to look. And again, he was my Understanding like hemmed up for his social media post in the Biden administration. He's obviously not being restrained in that way. Now go and look at, I think it's called Border Patrol Special Operations Command or DHS Special Operations Command, which includes bortac. Go and look at their pages. Right. Like these guys, they see themselves in, in the realm of like a military branch or a paramilitary police.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And did that is what they're doing in Chicago.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

NBC is reporting that the White House has approved the reassignment of at least a dozen directors of ICE field offices, with sources telling Fox News that the cities will include Los Angeles, Phoenix, Denver, Philadelphia, El Paso, San Diego, Seattle, Portland and New Orleans. This is almost half of the ICE field offices in the country. This turnover is being orchestrated by DHS Secretary Kristi Noem and DHS Senior advisor Corey Lewandowski with some of the replacements being hand picked by Bavino. This is like Bavino be able to shape ICE how he sees fit using his Border Patrol like background. And these changes are reportedly motivated on differing views on tactics across agency leadership with the ICE strategy and like the Tom Homan strategy of focusing on targeted removal of known criminals or immigrants with pre existing deportation orders versus the Border Patrol tactic of doing these large sweeps and roundups around places like Home Depots, laundromats, restaurants, neighborhoods, urban centers.

[C]

So Bevino like has been on this for a minute. Right. Like, and I, I'm now realizing we need to cover his, his career in more depth. But like I've seen this, oh, Bavino come from Stuff in 2010 when he was out of the Blythe Border Patrol station, I believe Blythe California. For those not familiar, Bavino was part of a raid on, on bus and train stations in Las Vegas. Right. Like these, these broader kind of dragnets have been something that he seems to have. They've been a characteristic of, of his career. Right. So that would make sense for him to be the guy advocating for this.

[A]

Now the official statement made by DHS Assistant Secretary Trisha McLaughlin at this point says, quote, while we have no personnel changes to announce at this time, the Trump administration remains laser focused on delivering results, removing violent criminal illegal aliens from this country. She followed up this statement with a tweet naming a whole bunch of people involved in all of these news stories, including Bavino and like praising them for their patriotism. Let's take a look at two pictures of Bovito here for his courtroom attire. Who wants to describe what Bovedo is wearing here?

[C]

It looks like a statue of Stalin.

[B]

He looks like a guy in the SS is dressing as a guy in the SS for Halloween.

[A]

I don't think it's very Stalin. I think it's very German.

[B]

Actually. That is an SS lookin coat. I'm sorry.

[A]

It's intense. He has his little stars on his collar and yeah, this, this, this like boxy wool trench coat. It's very. With the like shaved sides of his head. It's very clear what he is trying to evoke. This is a little bit coy, but like, come on. Come on, dude. And to follow this up, like, DHS is really. Is really pushing Bavino now as like the face of this, this mass deportation push. And they're making fucking like fash wave face flash wave hype Edit reels of.

[C]

Of show it, Garrett.

[A]

It's mad of Vivino and I, I will. I'll play the whole thing. But really it's the first two seconds that demonstrate what's. What's going on here.

[C]

This will be linked in the notes. I didn't realize it was Hampton to Dance Coldplay on the soundtrack. Like I had never listened to that.

[B]

Yeah, that's a choice.

[A]

We're not going to play much of that audio, Garrison.

[C]

We're going to play all of that audio.

[A]

We are not playing 30 seconds of copyrighted audio. But just the, the, the first, literally the first two seconds of him doing what is very clearly a sea Kyle and then transferring it into like military hand signals. But like, come on, dude.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then throughout, throughout this, the rest of the little fash wave edit. It's like pictures of him and his like, you know, tactical gear and then pictures of him in what you. I would describe as an SS inspired military dress uniform with the little, you know, the stars, the trench coat. It's like very clear what he's doing. The DHS Twitter account has been doing these little cute Nazi posts for a long time now. They know what they're doing. It's.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But specifically this now being like the, the. The new kind of face of this, of this whole operation. Both by playing a hand in restructuring the leadership of ICE and deploying to the forefront of places like Chicago as he leads and orchestrates the mass deportation operation.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like Operation Midway Blitz. Like blitz. Really Blitz.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Interest.

[A]

Interesting. Interesting. Unfucking believable that the fact that this guy was not canned by any previous Democrat administration. Like, like about like abolishing ICE is, is obviously like not enough here because as we're talking about the way that like Border patrol has actually been the ones leading the most brutal of these raids. I. I think, like, there is a specific focus on, like, ice, because that's, like, a safer target. I get, like, it feels like, because, like, people know what you're talking about.

[B]

All of dhs, we need to get rid of.

[E]

Yeah. The fact that this guy wasn't fired is going to be looked back upon in the same way that, like, Allende promoting Pinochet is looked back on. Just.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it's. It's. Yeah. What. How else do you describe it?

[E]

Yeah, like, if there was going to be a free country, all of this shit, all of the DHS agencies, all of this needs to cease to exist as a minimum. And these people need to be, like, hauled in front of a Nuremberg tribunal. And that's. That's the minimum viable. There might be a democracy after that.

[B]

We need so many Nurembergs.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. And, like, it's not. I don't want to, you know, gloat about this. It's not hard to have seen this coming. We have talked about this for years. Right? Like, yeah, this began in the 1990s with Operation Gatekeeper, Operation hold the Line. We've documented this extensively. We've documented the fact that under the Biden administration, there was virtually no oversight. Right. That they were able to detain people outdoors without food, water or shelter and deny that those people were detained. This is all stuff that we've covered. If it wasn't in your news diet, then you should question the news sources that you were using. But, like, it was very easy to see this coming. And as Mia said, very little was done to prevent it during the last four years.

[B]

Yep. And somewhat more amusing news during the ongoing trial over the different federal agents deployed to Portland and the necessity of that federal deployment and potentially the mobilization of National Guard troops in Oregon being sent to Portland, which is still being fought over in the courts. Portland police were brought up on the stand and testified that during one night out at ice, federal officers gassed Portland police and fired pepper balls at one officer. And when Portland police confronted federal, not ice. Sorry, but these are. These are federal FPS agents outside of the ICE building.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And when Portland police confronted the FBS agents afterwards, they responded, help or get out of the way. And this is simply. There's no actual. There's no. There's no rules of engagement. Right. Rules of engagement for, you know, soldiers and the like are supposed to be stuff like you don't fire until a certain standard of danger exists. Right. There are rules at which point you are allowed to engage with which kinds of weapons. Right. Your ROE may say one thing about using a nightstick or mace and it will say something else about using tear gas or whatever. There's no actual ROE for these guys. They're allowed to just kind of fire whenever they want. And they're not well trained. They're not very good at what they do. Most of them have not actually had the kind of training you've been supposed to have with these weapons systems they're using. And they're just kind of firing willy nilly, which is why they've been hitting cops repeatedly.

[C]

Most FPS agents are contractors. They're not. They're not full time law enforcement officers.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Talking of things that it would have been easy to see coming, I want to talk about ICE's facial recognition app.

[B]

App.

[C]

So I've seen a piece in 404 Media. 404 Media is the most annoying outlet to read pieces in because they will send you 17 emails a day. 404 Media suggests that ice is claiming a facial recognition match in its app. Mobile Fortify is a definitive determination of somebody's status. They're quoting here the ranking member of the House Homeland Security Committee, Benny G. Thompson, as saying, quote, mobile Fortify is a dangerous tool in the hands of ICE and it puts American citizens at risk of detention and even deportation. He also said that, quote, ICE officials have told us that an apparent biometric match by Mobile Fortify is a definitive determination of a person's status and that an ICE officer may ignore evidence of American citizenship, including a birth certificate, if the app says the person is an alien. ICE, using a mobile biometrics app in ways its developers at CBP never intended or tested, is a frightening, repugnant and unconstitutional attack on Americans rights and freedoms. Thompson is misguided if he thinks that, like, this is new. It is new in that it's that it has impacted U.S. citizens. Yes. This article, for reasons I cannot explain, does not mention CBP1.

[B]

Right.

[C]

As is often the case on immigration reporting that we see now, it's completely lacking in context. The context here is CBP1 is an app developed in the first Trump administration. It's often referred to as a Biden app because the definitive political question of our time is who Was president in 2020?

[A]

There's just no way to know.

[B]

It's impossible to say. You can't. There's no data on anything happening that far back.

[C]

Unfortunately, I have a new one which is more recent, which we're going to talk about next.

[A]

Grok Is this, is this real?

[C]

Yeah. But CBP1 was effectively determinative for migrants. Right. We've covered this in great detail here. There were some public records about CBP1 that I've looked at extensively. There's sort of too long, didn't read version is the app did not work well on Android phones, especially previous generation Android phones, which are very common among people coming from the global South. The facial liveness scan. So what the facial liveness scan does is that let's say Robert is coming to the U.S. right. They wanted to check that the phone is being held by Robert, that it's not been held. Someone's not holding up a photograph of Robert in front of the camera.

[B]

Right.

[C]

So you sort of move it around and it determines that It's a real 3D face, not. Not a. Not a photograph. It really struggled with black faces. I've seen this firsthand. I've.

[B]

All this stuff does. It's the same thing with like how there have been like motion activated faucets and stuff that wouldn't recognize dark skin.

[C]

Yeah. It's a data set that they put in. Right. To my understanding, the results of those scans were determinative for migrants.

[B]

Right.

[C]

It could determine their ability to make an asylum appointment and therefore to enter the US and make a claim for asylum. This caused people to remain in various very dangerous situations. It has probably led to people dying. It's another example of why we have to pay attention to the border if we want to know what's coming down the pipe domestically. And talking of shit that is coming down the pipe from the border domestically. I want to talk about public lands again because Utah Senator Mike Lee is back on his bullshit. This time he has another bill. People will remember that Mike Lee tried to insert in the budget reconciliation bill a massive sell off of public lands.

[B]

Right.

[C]

And what Lee does is he uses whatever terminology he thinks will make people support this crusade he has against lands owned by the public. For if we want to access the last time he tried to wrap it up in language about affordable housing, if you read the bill, you would have seen that it wasn't going to result in any affordable housing. This time he's wrapping it up in the language of border security. And this is where I'm. This is where we're going to return to the defining political question of our time. Who is president? Because Lee, who introduced a bill in October of 2025, said, and I quote, biden's open border chaos is destroying Americans crown jewels. Families who want to enjoy a Safe hike or camp out are instead finding trash piles, burned landscapes and trails closed because rangers are stuck clearing up the fallout. Cartels are exploiting the disorder, using these lands as cover for their operation. This bill gives land managers and border agents the tools to restore order and protect these places for the people they were meant to serve. Diligent observers will notice that Biden is no longer the President of the United States. And further diligent observers will notice that many people currently working for the federal government on public lands are being laid off or furloughed due to the government shutdown. What Lee's bill would do is allow DHS to identify illegal roads in public land areas and then to upgrade them to navigable roads. This is important because the 1964 Wilderness act doesn't allow motorized access to wilderness areas. And what Lee is proposing is that they would identify these illegal roads within a hundred mile zone. He is proposing a blanket change to the 1964 Wilderness act to allow the construction of roads, which would completely change the nature of wilderness in the United States. And like sometimes a slippery slope argument, can also be a fallacy. But in this case, building roads into the wilderness will permanently change the nature of that wilderness and will lead to other losses of protection on public land. Lee makes the argument that it's important for search and rescue and for border access. There is already mechanized access for search and rescue. Like search and rescue helicopters, for instance, can access wilderness areas that they have agreements in place with land management agencies which allow them to do this already when there is a risk to human life. The bill also talks about removing invasive species and reducing fire risk by removing fire fuels down by the border. Again, I'm guessing what this would do would be this. This would. I mean, if you fire fuels, like look at the southern border near where I live, right. Like think of the California sagebrush chaparral. Like clearing fire fuels there would completely change that landscape forever. It would remove much of the value that this wilderness has. Not as untouched.

[B]

Right.

[C]

People have lived in this area for tens of thousands of years and that they have touched that nature and they have lived alongside it and worked with it. But it is an area that is significantly less damaged than most of the United States.

[B]

Right.

[C]

The bill would also inventory fires and damage to wilderness caused by migrants. I guess this is just an attempt to say another bad thing about migrants. It also prohibits any housing of migrants on federal lands unless it is in a prison. It's Lee taking this borderhawk stuff and strapping it onto this crusade that he has been on for a long time to deprive people in the United States and people visiting the United States of access to their public lands and eventually to sell those lands off to the highest bidder. He introduced it on October 2nd. It's in the committee stage right now. This probably is one of the things that folks could call a representative about and suggest it's a very bad idea. Talking of bad ideas, Maduro has announced the formation of an international brigade to defend his incredibly corrupt regime in Venezuela. I say this as someone who has been to Venezuela and written a PhD about the Spanish Civil War. This is a very bad idea. Don't do this. This is Maduro does not need your help. Fuck that guy. Talking of things that don't need your help, here are some adverts.

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Don'T trust much of anything.

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It's the rage bait.

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It feels like it's trying to divide people. We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little.

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Let's meet at the Facts.

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Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America.

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You gonna do better than me?

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[A]

I can't believe you're throwing the People's Republic of Venezuela under the bus like that as they're facing down war with the United States of America right now.

[C]

Standing in the breach against imperialism. Yeah, I read all about it.

[A]

What happened is hashtag solidarity. James.

[C]

I'm sorry, I read about it on the Gray Zone and I'm changing my opinions, having spent more time than, I'm sure half the staff of the Gray Zone in Venezuela.

[E]

Speaking of spooky, the shit Trump's getting is part of tariff negotiations.

[B]

Woo.

[C]

Sorry if you don't like it. Rock Rocket, Caspar Tyree don't like it.

[B]

Rocky Chaspa. Rocky Chasm.

[E]

All right, so as we talked about last week, Trump has been in East Asia to do a bunch of meetings for conferences already happening, and this is where tariff negotiations have been being handled. This has been being held in South Korea. South Korean President Lee Jae Myung presented Trump with South Korea's highest honor and also gave him a giant golden crown. Have you all seen the giant golden Crown.

[A]

It's that easy, folks. All you gotta do is, all you gotta do is just these little stupid things and then he loves you.

[E]

Giant gilded crown.

[C]

I haven't seen the crown. I'm gonna look at the crown right now.

[E]

Look up the crown. I am beseeching you all. I, I, however big you think this crown is, it is way larger than that. It is.

[B]

Oh, wow. Yeah.

[C]

No, it's. Jesus. Wow.

[E]

It's like the size of a fire hydrant.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Maybe they directly, they directly took the one that they took from Prince Andrew for being a nonce and melted it down or something.

[E]

It's really something. Now, now, Lee Jae Myung is a name you might recognize because he's the guy who was famous for that video of climbing over the fence to stop the coup last year. And one year later, he's giving Trump what I think might be the largest crown I have ever seen. Now this crown is being described as, quote, a gilded replica. So I don't know how much of this is actually gold. I suspect it's gold paint or whatever. I don't know. I do not have confirmation on it. But you know, great, great things happening in, in, in sort of like a revolutionary anti coup movement which has ended with giving Trump the giant golden crown. Yeah. And apparently they, and they got like a kind of favorable, sort of okay, ish kind of trade deal out of, out of, out of giving the President of the United States giant golden crown. So in terms of tariff news, while while in, in China, Trump had his long awaited meeting with Xi Jinping. They struck a deal. Trump decreased the, quote, unquote fentanyl tariffs to 10%, which leaves the tariff rate for all Chinese goods at 47%, down from its previous 57%. China has agreed to not do rare earth mineral restrictions that we talked about last week and has also pledged to buy US Soybeans. Again, it's deeply unclear how much of this is actually going to happen. I think my guess is that they probably won't do the harshest of the rare mineral restrictions, but I will believe the soybean purchases when I see it and I haven't seen it yet. There's also been some interesting news out of the Senate where there's been a couple of symbolic votes against some sets of tariffs. The Senate voted 50 to 46 to end the state of emergency that supposedly allows Trump to do the Canada tariffs and also voted to block tariffs against Brazil. The, the four people who voted against both of these, who voted with the Democrats are Mitch McConnell, Rand Paul, Susan Collins and Lisa Morowski, which it kind of makes sense because Collins and Morawski are supposed to lead the two moderates. Rand Paul is, like, just hates tariffs.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

He's a free trade hardliner who, whenever I talk about this, I will say he has had. As much as all of this is his fault, he has had one great light ever, which is, I have a trade deficit with my grocery. Actually really good.

[A]

Is he like an Austrian, like, economist, like, libertarian type? Like, I know he's like a libertarian guy. I'm just trying to figure out what specific flavor.

[E]

Yeah, he's like one of the Austrian, like, gold standards, but also, like, those people are still free trade people. Like, really hard line.

[A]

Last time I heard Charlie Kirk talk in person, he was debating, like, five Austrian economists.

[C]

Wow.

[E]

The most annoying people in the entire world.

[B]

Honestly, I. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. That sounds like. That sounds like. Why would you agree to do that, especially if you're already rich? I don't understand it. I don't understand it.

[E]

Now. Okay. It's also worth noting, though, that despite these votes, none of this is going to take effect because the House right now effectively does not exist as a legislative body.

[B]

It sure does. Yeah.

[E]

It doesn't exist in general because they keep not calling sessions, because every time they try to call a session, the Democrats in the one political theater thing, that, like, is kind of a good idea, but they're still bad at it. They keep being like, you have to release the Epstein files. And the Republicans keep being like, no. So we kind of don't have a House of Representatives.

[B]

I keep thinking about that one scene from Mars Attacks where the President's like, you've still got two out of three branches of government, and that ain't bad.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

We basically have one branch of government.

[B]

We have one branch of government.

[E]

Yeah, we have one branch of government. And, like.

[B]

But that doesn't work as a Mars attack.

[C]

Next joke.

[E]

Yeah, but. And also, it's worth noting the House voted to not allow any tariff legislation until March 2026. A thing that it could apparently do. It is totally normal.

[B]

Sure.

[C]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

You know, so speaking of things that are totally normal, we're going to close this with Trump getting mad at Canada because he saw an ad they were running.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Series. Yeah, that was. God, it was.

[B]

It was.

[E]

It was a bunch of clips of Ronald Reagan being like, tariffs bad because. Because Reagan. Reagan's domestic protectionism took the form of currency devaluations and not tariffs, et cetera, et cetera. But, like. Yeah, so. And Trump saw this, lost his mind, said that it was AI. There's a whole saga here about him claiming that it was, like, also unauthorized usage of footage, which is a fiasco. And then also all of the tariff negotiations that have been happening between the U.S. and Canada have been called off. And. And he just put another 10% tariff on them because he was mad about it.

[A]

Go Jays.

[E]

Which, yeah, totally. You know, I. I totally. Absolutely. A thing that, like, an elected head of government does and not a. A guy who just received a massive golden crown. Aw, Garrison, that's not a Blue Jays hat.

[A]

But, you know, this is a Blue Jays hat. Mia. How fucking dare you try to she explain my own. My own country to myself.

[B]

Yeah, it's Toron.

[C]

Garrison's wearing a hat. For those who are not working for Cool Zone Media.

[A]

Yes, it's the Toronto Blue Jays. Oh, my God.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Toronto Blue Jays. I thought it was the Toronto Blue Jays.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, but there's not a J on it. Why?

[A]

Well, no, it just has the maple.

[C]

Leaf, but it's only three points. It's not a. Not a traditional maple leaf either.

[A]

James, are you gonna. Are you gonna she splain my own country to me?

[C]

Garrison, when it comes to birds and.

[E]

Leaves, I am going to Canada's Plain to you. It rocks. Oh, yeah, but that's fun. That's just how tariff policy is set now is you pissed off the king and he decided to put a tariff. This is. I don't know. I. I don't really know how to do analysis of the fact that we just have a child king setting tariff policy. It's. It's great.

[A]

Look, care. Quick fact check. Do you read? Can you read this?

[C]

Oh, wow.

[E]

It does say Blue Jays.

[A]

It does read this. Genuine MLB merchandise. Okay.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Wow, right? Yeah. No one would ever put that in fake MLB merchandise. It wouldn't be allowed.

[C]

Yeah, I've never seen any genuine MLB merchandise in markets in Iraq, for example.

[B]

Yeah. Hey, I'm the owner of a proud Fix and Gan shirt that I bought at a market in their bill.

[A]

Okay, all right, all right, all right, everybody. Okay. I think it's politically important for the Blue Jays to win the World Series and contribute to the American century of humiliation.

[B]

James, I still have my tumberland boots that I bought in syria.

[C]

I have a 5.1.1 jacket.

[B]

Oh, and I got a great Adotus tracksuit when I was in Istanbul.

[A]

James, do you want to do this Fed election monitoring right now or next year?

[C]

Yeah, let's do it. Now let's talk about talking of things which are not not as they seem. California Attorney General. Look at that, Garrison.

[B]

That is why they pay me the medium bucks.

[C]

California Attorney General Rob Bonter is warning.

[B]

That's such a fake ass name. I'm sorry, sorry.

[C]

Continue. Garrison is wearing that hat. For those not watching this podcast on top of their head. In the fashion of affairs, California Attorney General Rob Bunter is warning about election interference by the federal government. The federal government has sent monitors to California to a number of different counties in California in order to monitor the elections that are happening here on the 4th of November. To be clear, federal monitoring is not uncommon. The Biden administration did it in more than 80 places in 2024, for example. But Bonta seems convinced its monitoring is going to lead to election denial. Election interference. Here's Gavin Newsom talking on X about this.

[B]

So today the Trump administration announced they're.

[C]

Sending election monitors to five specific counties.

[B]

Here in the state of California.

[C]

They have no business doing that.

[B]

They have no basis to do that. In fact, we have a statewide election for a statewide constitution. This is about voter intimidation.

[C]

This is about voter suppression, period, full stop.

[B]

And it's a pattern, isn't it? It's consistent with what they've done with the federalization of the National Guard and the intimidation and the chill that that's created. They'll do that right around election day as well. Same thing with ICE and border patrol mass men watch that space showing up in and around polling booths and voting places. But this is a bridge too far. And I hope people understand it's a bridge that they're trying to build the scaffolding for all across this country in next November's election. They do not believe in fair and free elections. Our republic, our democracy is on the line. We all need to wake up.

[C]

I'm actually a lot more concerned with the stuff around. I think he's probably right that we will see like more federal agents around polling places in election time. What California is doing in response is assigning monitors to monitor the federal monitors, which will be interesting and it seems unusual, right, for the federal monitors be monitoring things. Like one of the things that's on the ballot this year is Prop 50. Right. Which would redistrict California. It's gerrymandering. So gerrymandering proposition to.

[B]

It's revenge gerrymandering.

[C]

To be clear, it's gerrymandering.

[B]

The bill is specifically we. Not we're going to do this, but we're going to do this if there's redistricting in Texas.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, it's. Yes. It's an attempt to rectify the very obvious gerrymandering in Texas.

[B]

It's kind of mad. Mutually assured destructionist is applied to Jerry, man.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Neither of these things are great. That's. Here we are. I think that's all I had on this, actually.

[B]

Cool.

[C]

Yep. I think that that's.

[B]

That a sod.

[C]

That's where we're at.

[B]

All right, everybody. Well, until.

[A]

Breaking breaking autism news.

[B]

Oh, God.

[A]

Texas is suing Tylenol, specifically a pharmaceutical company, Johnson Johnson, and for marketing Tylenol to pregnant women and failing to disclose what Attorney General Ken Paxton calls, quote, a significantly increased risk of autism and other disorders, unquote.

[C]

They don't market it to pregnant women. Like, generally, they says.

[B]

If I'm not mistaken, it says on the bottles, don't take. If you're nursing, you're pregnant.

[C]

Probably. We covered this in a previous episode, but, like, generally, drugs are not. Very few drugs are marketed to pregnant people.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Be the women or otherwise.

[B]

Yeah. No. The only thing you're supposed to take as a pregnant woman is cocaine, and you got to make sure it's pierced.

[E]

Non binary people tell you you can take anything.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

If you're not pregnant, it's okay to do whatever.

[C]

Yeah. If you are pregnant, not a woman, it's okay. Go right ahead.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, sure. Wait, no, I don't think that that's how it works.

[E]

Transvastic double.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. True.

[B]

I think if you have a fetus gestating in you, you're only supposed to do cocaine.

[A]

Definitely the least autistic of people. Non binary people. Yeah, definitely. Definitely. They can just take whatever or do. Or do. Take whatever.

[C]

Yeah. Generally drugs like, like, they'll. They'll say that you should consult with it with your doctor.

[A]

Consult a doctor.

[C]

Yeah. And none of them are risk free. But it's. It's a. It's a cost benefit analysis. Right.

[A]

We covered this, the autism and Tylenol, like correlation versus causation based on that one Swedish.

[C]

Swedish study. Yeah.

[A]

This is. I'm interested to see how Johnston Johnson argues this in court and if that will have effects across, you know, the rest of the Trump administration's anti. Tylenol push if they're able to successfully defend their product against Ken Paxton. So critical support to Tylenol, I guess.

[B]

Welcome to the resistance. Big Pharma.

[C]

Jesus. Yeah. If people want to listen to more on that, we can go back and find our previous episode.

[B]

All right, everybody, until next time, try not to be on a fishing boat anywhere south of the US Southern border. It's not safe right now.

[A]

Good luck. Trick or treating. Happy Halloween.

[B]

Yeah, Trick or treating. It's not safe right now.

[C]

Oh yeah, don't be trick or treating in a boat this year.

[A]

We reported the news. That sucks.

[C]

Yeah, we reported the news.

[B]

It Could Happen. Here is a production of Cool Zone Media. For more podcasts from Cool Zone Media, Visit our website coolzonemedia.com or check us out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts you can now find sources for It Could.

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Thanks for listening.

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