Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #41

Summary

It Could Happen Here: Executive Disorder – White House Weekly #41

Date: November 14, 2025
Podcast: It Could Happen Here (Cool Zone Media / iHeartPodcasts)
Hosts: Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, James Stout, Robert Evans

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Overview

This episode presents a blistering rundown of the week’s White House developments and associated political fallout, exploring the collapse of U.S. governance, the renewed Jeffrey Epstein files controversy, right-wing media disinformation, shifting alliances in the halls of power, and the very real human consequences of policy failure—from shutdown aftershocks to immigration angst and economic uncertainty. The hosts’ tone alternates between dark humor, open outrage, and bleak realism as they interrogate the events and systemic patterns underpinning American decline.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Government Shutdown Ends: The Political Cost and Healthcare Fallout

[02:56–05:16]

• The U.S. government shutdown—now the longest in history—finally ended after eight Senate Democrats joined Republicans for a deal without Obamacare subsidy extensions.
• The deal only promises a future floor vote on health care tax credits (with no assurance of passage), highlighting performative, orchestrated actions by Democrats.
• None of the eight cross-over Democratic senators face reelection in 2026.
• Notably, the bill included a ban on Delta-8 hemp THC, angering Kentucky’s hemp industry.

Quote:

"So we can't get healthcare, but at least we also can't get health THC."
– Garrison Davis [04:54]

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2. Jeffrey Epstein Files: Explosive Revelations and Media Silence

[05:16–18:58; 27:00–29:29]

• The House Oversight Committee released new Epstein-related emails (2011–2019), showing clear awareness among elites—including Donald Trump—of Epstein’s activities.
• Standout exchanges suggest Trump knew of underage girls at Mar-a-Lago and asked Ghislaine Maxwell to “stop.”
• Emails reveal Epstein's close contact with media, political, and financial figures (e.g., Steve Bannon, Peter Thiel, Obama officials, New York Times journalists).
• There’s open joking among elites about crimes, notably in “sent on my iPad” style, demonstrating how mundane and blatant these communications were.
• The episode is peppered with both horror at elite impunity and gallows humor at the banality of their conversations.

Quote:

“It suggests very plainly that we are ruled by a group of pedophiles... I refuse to call them a cabal because cabal implies that they work in the shadows. They were not. The entire ruling class knew this was going on openly and they're joking about it.”
– Mia Wong [12:56]

• Hosts debate whether these revelations will have political consequences; fears are expressed that there won’t be serious accountability, just continued normalization and symbolic “changing of the guard.”
• The leaks may become a tool for Republicans seeking to “decouple” from Trump as scandals deepen.

Quote:

“I think it's going to be utilized electorally by some Republicans to eventually decouple the party from Trump ... turning on him specifically through this issue...”
– Garrison Davis [21:15]

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3. Media Complicity and Manufactured Crises

[27:00–28:26]

• Analysis of how major newspapers (notably The New York Times) strategically divert attention by flooding coverage of “migrant caravans” or culture war topics while burying elite crimes.
• The hosts reflect on choices made in newsroom coverage and what stories get front-page treatment—implicating both right- and ostensible left-leaning media in deflection and misdirection.

Quote:

“They're literally saying: look over there.”
– James Stout [28:26]

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4. Right-Wing Media, January 6th, and Conspiracy Disinformation

[33:50–49:44]

• The right’s ongoing efforts to blame the FBI, CIA, and “deep state” for the January 6th insurrection are dissected, with specific focus on The Blaze’s widely discredited reporting on the “pipe bomb bomber” and the use of dubious “gait analysis.”
• The episode highlights the danger of such claims and their rapid circulation in alternative media, even as some on the right (including Gateway Pundit and Julie Kelly) push back when claims lack substance.
• The mainstream media’s slow response to debunk such stories is criticized, potentially enabling further conspiracy spread.

Quote:

“It's all kind of dressed up as OSINT, but they're not actually providing you with the information.”
– Robert Evans [45:11]

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5. Immigration and Faith: Unlikely Alliances and Pushback

[54:59–59:39]

• The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops issued a rare, strong condemnation of the treatment of migrants, denouncing fear-mongering, detention conditions, and family separations.
• The hosts note the surprising “woke” position of the Catholic Church leadership versus right-wing “trad” Catholics.

Quote:

"Critical support to the Catholic Church."
– Garrison Davis [59:12]

• Simultaneously, Texas’s attorney general is suing Harris County for supporting NGOs that aid migrants, again stoking the dangerous narrative that humanitarian work is “aiding and abetting” crime—often laced with antisemitic undertones.

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6. Economic Chaos: Tariffs, Mortgages, and Statistics

[62:58–75:21]

• Discussion of Trump’s proposed “tariff rebate checks,” potential 50-year mortgages, and new tariffs on imported Italian pasta (noting resulting impacts on those with dietary restrictions and “fancy” tastes).
• The mortgage proposal is widely derided; analysis finds a 50-year mortgage would save little monthly but drastically increase overall interest paid.
• The shutdown’s impact is felt as reliable jobs and inflation data are delayed or compromised; Trump’s efforts to sway the Bureau of Labor Statistics are noted as an ongoing threat.

Quote:

"You're not even talking about the 15 year auto loans. You know, everyone who buys a Kia can trust that it will keep working for 15 years."
– Robert Evans [70:11]

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7. Culture War Fatigue and Shifting Priorities

[73:31–74:58]

• With the Supreme Court declining to revisit same-sex marriage, hosts speculate that Republican “anti-woke” culture war energy may be running out, with economic concerns eclipsing identity panics in the current climate.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Elite Crimes and Impunity:

  “For all of the sort of moaning and complaining about woke censorship and MeToo and cancel culture, these people never shut the fuck up, ever. At any point, all of these people are running around to their fucking Epstein conferences taking a bunch of money to talk about eugenics.”
  – Mia Wong [13:53]

• On Media Hypocrisy:

  “...they’re always like two extra spaces between sentences. Like, you can tell they're old people. Typing on iPads a lot of the time with their fucking clumsy ass fingers.”
  – Robert Evans [11:12]

• On the 'Pipe Bomber' Disinformation:

  “You certainly shouldn't be hinging your publication survival on getting right that somebody was a bomber.”
  – Robert Evans [42:49]

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Key Timestamps

• 02:31: Main show begins; weekly review intro.
• 02:56: Shutdown ends, Democrats cave, healthcare deals fizzle.
• 04:53: Delta-8 hemp/THC ban hidden in shutdown deal.
• 05:16 – 18:58: Deep dive into Epstein emails, elite impunity.
• 27:00 – 29:29: Comment on NYT coverage choices; midterms and public attention.
• 33:50 – 49:44: Right-wing conspiracy media and the pipe bomber story.
• 54:59 – 59:39: Catholic Church speaks out on immigration; contradictory social issues.
• 62:58 onward: Trump economics (tariffs, mortgages), delayed labor statistics, economic data manipulation.
• 73:31: Supreme Court, same-sex marriage decision.
• 75:38: Show wrap-up and meta-commentary.

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Closing Notes

The episode encapsulates both specific weekly events and the broader, relentless cycles of elite misrule, crumbling institutions, and unresolved injustices, reinforcing the show’s core exploration: "How do we live in—and resist—an era of slow, cynical collapse?" The hosts demand action but acknowledge a real fear: the world keeps burning while those in power escape accountability, often laughing all the way.

Tone and Style: Blunt, irreverent, and often furious; alternating between detailed analysis, dark comedy, and exasperated realism.

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For Listeners:

If you missed the episode, this summary will bring you up to speed on every major event, mood, and argument—without the ads, digressions, or despair you might otherwise have to filter through yourself.

Transcript

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[Robert Evans]

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[Robert Evans]

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[Mia Wong]

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[James Stout]

They were climbing trees and they were sabotaging logging equip in the woods.

[Mia Wong]

She received death threats before the bombing. She received more threats after the bombing. I think that this is a deliberate.

[Robert Evans]

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[Garrison Davis]

This is it Could Happen here at Executive Disorder, our weekly newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis. Today I'm joined by Mia Wong, James Stout and Robert Evans. This episode we are covering the week of November 5th to November 13th.

[Robert Evans]

How I feel about the week.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah, that's how you feel.

[Robert Evans]

Uh huh.

[Garrison Davis]

Well, the shutdown is now over. The longest shutdown in U.S. history. Last weekend, eight Democratic senators caved on the shutdown, approving a deal to reopen the government without extending the existing Obamacare subsidies. Gaining only a promise to have a Senate floor vote on healthcare tax credits sometime in December, with no indication given that this vote would pass the chamber and no commitment from Speaker Mike Johnson that he would hold a vote in the House. None of the Democratic senators that sided with the Republicans are up for reelection in 2026.

[Mia Wong]

Yeah. And I think that suggests pretty clearly that this was orchestrated and staged by the Democratic Party as a whole. You don't have. Oh, we picked eight specific people who you can't vote against in the next cycle.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah, that.

[Mia Wong]

Yeah, it's very clearly just stage managing.

[Garrison Davis]

Specifically with the Schumer being somewhat in charge of the Senate. The Democrats, who likely would have been the person orchestrating this, who himself did not vote for this deal, was able to personally vote against it despite likely being the one orchestrating this entire deal.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

Two of the senators who signed on are retiring at the end of their term. But even if we can't get health care through this shutdown bill, you know what these Democrats did. Did able to squeeze in there? Well, I don't know if the Democrats squeezed it in there, but it is in there. That's a Delta 8 hemp THC ban, which is included.

[Mia Wong]

Horrible.

[Garrison Davis]

In the Senate funding bill.

[Mia Wong]

Absolutely awful.

[James Stout]

Yeah, of course it is.

[Robert Evans]

Boy howdy. And the hemp industry has gotten angry about this. They're planning to fight it in 2026. I guess we'll all see because it takes a while to take effect. But yeah, that is. There's a lot of hemp farms in Kentucky that are pissed off right now.

[Mia Wong]

Yep.

[Garrison Davis]

So we can't get health care, but at least we also can't get health thc.

[Mia Wong]

So what if there wasn't bread or circuses, what would happen then?

[Robert Evans]

Wow.

[James Stout]

We would vote for the Democrats, Mia, because they're the least bad option. That's. I think that's how that goes. Right. Like, I've been on Blue Sky a few times this week. I think I've got it pretty drilled in.

[Garrison Davis]

Catherine Cortez Maestro of Nevada, Dick Durbin of Illinois, John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire, Tim Kaine of Virginia, Angus King of Maine. No Kings. Protest member just dropped Kathryn Cortez Mosto of Nevada. And Jean Shaheen of New Hampshire. Speaking of the Senate and the Oversight Committee, this whole Jeffrey Epstein thing doesn't seem to be going away, does it?

[Robert Evans]

Man, like you, I was a skeptic about, like, could there be Anything in there that's actually gonna hurt Trump if he hasn't been hurt so far by everything that is out there. And I don't know, I guess I'm still a little bit of a skeptic, but it's increasingly hard to be. Cause, like, how much. How could it be worse than this? Yeah.

[James Stout]

There's something that isn't this.

[Robert Evans]

How could it be worse than. Donald Trump was at Jeffrey Epstein's mansion and walked into a glass door because he was so busy ogling children.

[James Stout]

Yeah. The fact that this is what they released to distract you from the stuff they don't want to release.

[Mia Wong]

Well, this was the Democrats, to be fair.

[James Stout]

Well, both.

[Garrison Davis]

This was the emails they were able to subpoena from Jeffrey Epstein's estate.

[Mia Wong]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

As a part of the oversight investigation into the federal government's investigation of the Epstein files.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

Yesterday, the Oversight committee released this batch of files related to the Epstein investigation. Mostly of note, a series of emails from about 2011 to 2019, including one from Epstein written to Maxwell from 2011, quote, I, I want you to realize that the dog that hasn't barked is Trump. Victim spent hours at my house with him. He has never once been mentioned. Police chief, et. I'm 75% there, unquote. In a short email exchange From December of 2018, an unknown individual sent Jeffrey Epstein this message, quote, it will all blow over. They're really just trying to take down Trump and doing whatever they can to do that. With Epstein replying. Yes, thicks. Thanks. It's wild because I am the one able to take him down. Whatever could he mean by that?

[Robert Evans]

Yeah.

[James Stout]

Who knows?

[Robert Evans]

There's no way to tell. There's absolutely no way to tell.

[James Stout]

If you are currently in high school English class and people tell you you will not be able to make billions of dollars if you are unable to use grammar or punctuation or capital letters correctly. That, that appears not to have been an impediment to Jeffrey Epstein.

[Garrison Davis]

Jeffrey Epstein's typing style is fascinating.

[Mia Wong]

It's awful.

[James Stout]

Well, it's extremely distinctive, which I suppose is a valuable thing in itself.

[Garrison Davis]

No, it's, it's, it's fascinating. But, I mean, there's there, there's a lot of different emails of note, a 2019 email from Epstein to Michael Wolf, quote, victim Mar A lago redacted. Trump said, he asked me to resign. Never a member ever. Of course, he knew about the girls as he asked Ghislaine to stop, unquote.

[Mia Wong]

Which, by the way, the way, that I've been. I'VE been seeing that quote passed around is just that he knew about the girls part, which makes it a little bit technically ambiguous as to what he's talking about. But the second part being as he asked just Lane to stop. Oh, that's as blatant as it could possibly be. Right. What Epstein is saying there was really clear.

[Garrison Davis]

The main thing that's clear from this exchange is at the very least, the extent to which Trump was very aware of Epstein's activities.

[James Stout]

Yeah, yeah.

[Robert Evans]

Well, in which everyone was not just fucking Donald Trump, but like, the Obama White House's chief legal counsel from 2011 to 2014. Right. Who he messaged with regularly and seems to have been flirting with him. Right. She seems to have been into him and they're all just kind of casually. Or he is with them casually joking about, like, being a pedophile.

[Mia Wong]

Yeah. There's emails from Steve Bannon here, who he's just chatting with. Like, he emails Peter Thiel at one point.

[Garrison Davis]

The Steve Bannon Exchange is from 2019 from Jeffrey Epstein.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

Talking about a recent, like, state visit. Message Prince Andrew and Trump today. Too funny. Another reply from Epstein. Recall Prince Andrew's accuser came out of Mar A Lago. And response from Bannon. Can't believe nobody's making you the connective tissue.

[Mia Wong]

Jesus Christ.

[Garrison Davis]

Wild, wild, wildly blatant stuff. In exchange from 2015 from Michael Wolf to Jeffrey Epstein. I hear CNN is planning to ask Trump tonight about his relationship with you, either on air or in scrum afterwards. Epstein replied, if you were able to craft an answer for him, what do you think it should be? Wolf responded to that quote, I think you should let him hang himself. If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the House, then that gives you a valuable PR and political currency. You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you. Or if it really looks like he could win, you could save him generating a debt. Of course, it is possible that when asked, he'll say, jeffrey's a great guy and has gotten a raw deal and is a victim of political correctness, which is to be outlawed in a Trump regime.

[James Stout]

Imagine putting that in writing to a Gmail address.

[Garrison Davis]

Gmail is fascinating. Is a fascinating choice by Epstein.

[James Stout]

Yeah, yeah, right? Yeah.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah. Also, the fact that every goddamn one of these messages ends with sent on my iPad is. Is. It's just constantly amusing.

[Garrison Davis]

Sent on my iPhone is for a lot of these. Yeah.

[Robert Evans]

They're always like two extra spaces between sentences. Like, you can tell they're old people. Typing on iPads a lot of the time with their fucking clumsy ass fingers. Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful. It's beautiful.

[James Stout]

Text size huge.

[Garrison Davis]

Some really disturbing exchanges from Epstein and a man named Landon Thomas Jr. With Epstein saying, would you like a photo of Donald and girls in bikinis in my kitchen?

[Robert Evans]

Sure, bro.

[Garrison Davis]

Hawaiian tropical girl Lauren Petrella. Epstein then sent a link displaying an image of a woman, quote, My 20 year old girlfriend in 93 that after two years I gave to Donald, unquote.

[Mia Wong]

One thing I want to note here is that Landon Thomas Jr. Yeah, baby. Long, long time journalist at the New York Times and he's just handed this.

[Robert Evans]

Financial journalist, so he couldn't do anything with it. He could do nothing with it. Obviously, he's a financial journalist. He can't report on what financier Jeffrey Epstein tells him about Donald Trump walking into a glass door because he was ogling naked children at Jeffrey Epstein's mansion. That's a thing that Jeffrey joked about to him and the New York Times never printed.

[Mia Wong]

Yeah.

[Robert Evans]

In 2016 they had this.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah.

[Mia Wong]

There's a tendency, and I understand why, to get sort of burned out on this, right, to be like, oh, my God, it's more Epstein news. But we should be furious about this.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah.

[Mia Wong]

This was, you know, what we have here. And this isn't even the stuff they're trying to hide, Right. This isn't the Epstein files. This is just the emails that the oversight committee has been able to get.

[Robert Evans]

Right.

[Mia Wong]

And it suggests very plainly that we are ruled by a group of pedophiles. And I refuse to call them a cabal because cabal implies that they work in the shadows. They were not. The entire ruling class knew this was going on openly and they're joking about it.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah.

[Mia Wong]

They don't care. Yeah. They think it's funny.

[Garrison Davis]

There's this exchange from 2017 between Jeffrey and an unknown individual where Jeffrey says, you are welcome at my house always and more private. The person responds, very well, just send me the address again and the code to the door so I can get to the second floor. And send me the day and time.

[James Stout]

Thanks.

[Garrison Davis]

Jeffrey said, 10:00pm Should I bring special cake from New York? The unknown individual responded, yes. And then once they arrived, they sent the message, quote, I'm at the door, but I will wait for my time. I don't want to come early to find Trump in your house. Two laughing emojis, 2017.

[James Stout]

Christ. Yeah.

[Mia Wong]

And the reason they're doing this, right, the reason they're just, they're so blatant. About this reason they all think it's so funny. The reason they're just doing this over completely unencrypted email in a way that like someone. Someone planning a completely legal protest where you stand outside of a building with signs. Right. Would not plan it like this. The reason they're doing this is that these people and men like them have been ruling this country for 500 years in an uninterrupted line from Columbus's fucking crew through on Hispaniola, through Jefferson and Sally Hemings. Like, to Epstein, it is an uninterrupted line. They think that they are completely invincible and that no one will ever challenge them. And you know, maybe. Maybe they're fucking right. Like, for. For all of the sort of moaning and complaining about woke censorship and MeToo and cancel culture, these people never shut the fuck up. Ever. At any point, all of these people are running around to their fucking Epstein conferences taking a bunch of money to talk about eugenics.

[Robert Evans]

Well, and that's. I mean, there was a. There was some fun stuff about that in here too, because he was emailing with Lawrence Krauss. Less eugenics and more hatred of women. Where like, there were very funny emails where Krauss was being like, you know, I made a comment at a speech that half of all the IQ in the world comes from women, but they're more than half the population. Ha ha ha ha. Like a lot of just, like, casual. It's a really interesting insight into how people at kind of the highest levels of finance and government and just wealth in general and media, like, communicated with each other during this period of time. I'm sure it's different now.

[Mia Wong]

Yeah.

[Robert Evans]

Because people are even less good at writing. But yeah, it's a useful. It's a snapshot that we don't get anywhere else of like, this chunk of the. I mean, talking about that fucker at the New York Times who, by the way, was shit canned in 2019 for soliciting donations from Jeffrey Epstein and not informing them of his personal relationship. But again, the Times never published anything based on their conversations.

[Mia Wong]

Mm.

[Robert Evans]

It's the same group of people who have been telling us every issue that, like, might tangentially be con. Connected to, like, transitioning is newsworthy. And it's incredibly newsworthy if this, like, official at a college might have plagiarized once in their childhood, but. Or in their youth, but, like, it's not newsworthy at all to talk about the possible future president walking face first into a glass door because he's staring at Naked children in a pedophile's mansion.

[Mia Wong]

This is the period. This is the period where they were. They were running stories about the food at Grinnell College. Yeah, and you can. And, you know, and there's another, I think, part of this, too, where if you look through these things, you can find these people all complaining about me too. Right? Yeah, you can. You can find these people all doing their sort of like, oh, these are all the same people who do all of the like, oh, like, we're the bold truth tellers, blah, blah, blah. We're being censored by, like, cancer culture. I want to take a stab at the question that these. That you're actually not allowed to ask, you know, and when I say you're not allowed to ask is these people don't want you to ask all the fucking hedge fund managers, the CEOs, all the senators, all the presidents, everyone in these fucking files does not want you to ask a simple question. Why do we have a ruling class? Like, we gave them 500 years of running this continent, and do you know what they produced again? 500 years of, like, uninterrupted pedophiles.

[James Stout]

Right.

[Mia Wong]

We are on year 500 of this from, like, Columbus to Jefferson to Epstein to Trump.

[Robert Evans]

Right?

[Mia Wong]

So why do we have this?

[Robert Evans]

That's just not how people. No one's going to a store or to the politics store or heading out to vote and voting for another year of the pedophile ruling class. People don't really think. People don't tend to think about it that way. And in part, they don't, because the ruling strata of the United States has not portrayed itself in the same unbroken way. Right. Like, it very much makes an effort not to in. In. In public. And there's an extent to which it is. It's certainly different than, like, the old aristocracy of the British and the landed gentry that ruled the British Empire. It's not exactly the same, but it is like, the same kind of people, and in a lot of cases, the same families that continue to control large amounts of wealth and inherit political power. I mean, there's another fucking Kennedy who seems like a nice kid getting into politics just as we speak, Right? Yeah. I don't know. I feel like we'll have a dedicated episode on more of the Epstein stuff. Like. And there's an extent to which I keep thinking about that, like, bitten community where it's like, no one's on the other side of this issue that's listening to this podcast. Everybody's very angry about the pedophilia Everybody's very angry about all of this stuff. And I have mostly been interpreting it through just like, laughing over the last day or two, which is bad because it's like, really bad stuff. You shouldn't just do that at it. But, like, what else, what other reactions? Like, you can pick and choose whatever you do. I think to your point, Mia, however you react to this is not going to change anything, right?

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Robert Evans]

Like, so far it hasn't.

[Mia Wong]

Yeah, well, but I mean, okay, I don't think that's completely true. You can watch how just like, pissed off and scared these people were about, like, about MeToo, right? And like, you can, you can go listen to Bannon a couple of weeks ago talking about how if they lose the election, like, we're all going to prison.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah, right.

[Mia Wong]

Like, these people are, like, concerned about even, like, me too, which was a fairly milquetoe. Like, it wasn't like a particularly radical feminist movement, right?

[James Stout]

No.

[Mia Wong]

And these people were losing their fucking minds about it. And, you know, like, we, we have the potential to organize feminist movements that can actually do things about this shit. Like, we, we are capable of building new feminist movements. We did one not that long ago that was a big part of this administration collapsing the first time, and we can do it again.

[Robert Evans]

I'm not saying there's no point in fighting them. I'm just saying, like, your reaction the moment to the Epstein Leaks doesn't matter as much as is this going to, is this going to cause any kind of, like, long term resistance to the administration? Is this going to? And maybe it will, but, like, I guess the thing that I'm curious about is like, what, what is, what are, what are we doing to try and make this matter? Right? Because, like, that's, that's where I am.

[Mia Wong]

Yeah. But the answer to the question, is this going to matter? Is also something that every single one of us decides, right? Because if we all just do nothing, then, yeah, nothing, nothing will happen. Right. If we go mobilize, if we go do things to resist these people, we intensify the things we're already doing. If we start doing new things, if we start doing new sort of feminist insurgencies, right, then things can change. But if we don't, they're not going to. And we're just going to have another 500 years of these pedophiles ruling everything.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah, I mean, I, I, I think that it's probably more a matter of like, this is likely to shift more people away from the gop, at least in the Immediate future. I don't think in the long term. I don't know that you, you don't build a coalition off of this. Cause the dim aren't trying to. You at least get this like, wider awareness of where the real problem was. But I, I just don't know.

[Garrison Davis]

I think it's going to be utilized electorally by some Republicans to eventually decouple the party from Trump.

[Robert Evans]

Yes.

[Garrison Davis]

After this becomes more and more evident and they're looking for a way to get themselves out of becoming the Trump Party. And turning on him specifically through this issue will probably be one of the methods in which they do that. And you see that with, with some, with some people like even like Margaret Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Bobert.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah. Rod Dreher is writing about some stuff adjacent to this. Right. These are the guys who think Vance needs to lead the party away from Trump.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah. And are already viewing Trump as a, as a sort of lame duck presidency. In, in so much is that he's kind of failed to do a whole bunch of stuff, especially on the economy in the past year. The midterms are about to get up and running. That's gonna take up a whole bunch of energy. Everyone expects the Dems to do very well in the midterms and then prevent the Trump administration in the final two years from getting much of anything done through blocking things in Congress.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

That's what, that's what a lot of people on the far right are like taking this situation as, as, as basically January to now was the second Trump administration. This is the most that they're going to get done. And now it's kind of all downhill from here.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

And they're looking far beyond Trump now.

[Robert Evans]

Yes.

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[Robert Evans]

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[TD Jakes]

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[Robert Evans]

Every decision I have ever made has come from sitting with the spirit and asking God, what would you have me do first?

[TD Jakes]

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[Robert Evans]

All I know is what I've been told and that's a half truth is a whole lie.

[Maggie Freeling]

For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Robert Evans]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[Maggie Freeling]

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[Robert Evans]

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[Maggie Freeling]

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[Robert Evans]

I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff.

[Garrison Davis]

That y' all said.

[Robert Evans]

They literally made me say that I.

[Maggie Freeling]

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[Robert Evans]

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[Maggie Freeling]

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[Robert Evans]

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[Maggie Freeling]

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[TD Jakes]

We had 30 agents ready to go.

[Robert Evans]

With shotguns and rifles and you name it.

[Maggie Freeling]

But what they find is not what they expected.

[Robert Evans]

Basically, your stay at home moms were.

[James Stout]

Picking up these large amounts of heroin.

[Robert Evans]

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[Gisele Bryant]

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[Robert Evans]

Her for like 25 years.

[Maggie Freeling]

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[Robert Evans]

Once I saw the gun, I tried.

[Garrison Davis]

To take his hand and I saw the flash of light.

[Maggie Freeling]

Listen to the Chinatown sting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts.

[James Stout]

I want to tack back to the Times real quickly before we move past this. Like, Gareth, some of those emails you read, if I'm not mistaken, were like, in December of 2018, right?

[Robert Evans]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

The 2018 ones are Epstein saying, I am the one able to take him down. That one's from 2018.

[James Stout]

Yeah. Okay, so let's talk about, I mean, the week before the midterms and a week after midterms, in terms of Times front page stories. Right. The week before the midterms, 2018, the Times ran 12 stories on the quote, unquote, migrant caravan on the front page ran 24.

[Garrison Davis]

Oh, yeah, I remember that.

[Robert Evans]

Right.

[James Stout]

The week after it ran five, the migrant caravan continued to grow as more people. I was physically present in Tijuana, right. As the caravan was arriving, and I continued to be present for the rest of that year. The caravan continued to grow, more people continued to come.

[Mia Wong]

Right.

[James Stout]

That this is. And a choice was made not to cover the Epstein stuff that Robert spoke about. Right. A choice was also made at that time to really, like, this caravan was not huge, it was large, but it wasn't a hugely remarkable number of migrants. And it occupied 12 front page stories during that one week before the election. Right. I don't know how else I can say this. Like, they're literally saying, look over there. Yeah.

[Robert Evans]

And I guess that's part of my. Part of my fear, Gare, is I think that is accurate as to how things are going to play out and that the Dims will have a good midterm and probably pretty good results in the 2020. That's less clear to me, you know, because in part, if the Dems have a really good 2026 and then things continue to get worse, maybe we'll blame the party. I don't know who's going to show up on the, you know, after Trump, that. That's all a little unclear. But what worries me is that in the mix of all that we're going to get away from, and I think this is almost inevitable, actual accountability for these people. Like, I don't foresee there being strong punishment. I foresee things moving forward possibly in a way where they get quite a bit better, but not where I don't see the likelihood of these people getting punished. And I don't know that somebody running in 2028 on a platform of we're going to hang these people in the street would win, but I think it's worth a shot. Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah, it's it's pretty far off. I really, yeah, I'm not sure how much this will still be relevant by then. I mean, after Mike Johnson for seven weeks delayed the swearing in of Arizona Representative Adelita Grijalva, she was finally sworn in yesterday on Wednesday and became the 208th 18th required signature on the discharge petition to force a floor vote for the full release of the Epstein files. Johnson says this vote will happen next week. During this process, Trump held an emergency meeting in the Situation Room with Pam Bondi, Todd Blanche and Cash Patel to convince Lauren Bobber to take her name off the petition, which would then result in it not being complete, enforcing the vote. They are certainly in a panic over this. The whole White House team is this morning, Thursday, Press secretary Carolyn Levitt put out an amazing post on X the Everything app. Quote, if not for the Jeffrey Epstein story, CNN would be forced to talk about how Chuck Schumer and the Democrats got shellacked by President Trump and Republicans in the government shutdown fight. It's clear this is another Democrat and mainstream media hoax fueled by fake outrage distract from the President's wins. Republicans, don't be fooled. President Trump will remain focused on making America affordable again. If not for the Jeffrey Epstein story.

[Robert Evans]

If not, aren't we all saying that.

[Garrison Davis]

If the President wasn't a pedophile, then everyone would love him.

[Robert Evans]

If not for the child molestation, he'd be allowed to live in this neighborhood.

[Garrison Davis]

So much in the Megyn Kelly thing, in terms of, yeah, in terms of Republicans reacting to this and trying to find a way to sort through and some of them are manufacturing like consent, like Megyn Kelly here and others I think are quite ready to just throw Trump to the wolves, frankly.

[Mia Wong]

Yeah, there's a, so Megyn Kelly, I'm not going to play the clip from you all because having to listen to Megyn Kelly is.

[Garrison Davis]

I've listened to four hours of Megyn Kelly this week. Mia.

[Mia Wong]

Yeah, let's, let's know more. But, but she, she, she has this whole line about how she knows someone who's close to the case and has all the details and that person thinks that, you know, her exact quote is, I think there's a difference, a difference between a 15 year old and a 5 year old. I mean she literally is talking about how, oh, he was into the, he wasn't into four or five year olds. He's talking about, she says this and I quote barely legal types. And then she says 14 or 15, which not legal. Just pause, pause right there. 14, 15, not legal. I Think there, there was a conversation to be had about the extent to which the barely legal like just turned 18 shit is to a large extent a product of like American pedophile culture and misogyny. But like those are 14 and 15 year olds and, and this is the like, you know, this, this is the defense that these people are, are, are dragging out for this which is that oh well, he wasn't like literal like like 5 year olds. So actually it's like they're, they're, they're, they're, they're doing the like he's in the biafile or whatever the fuck.

[Garrison Davis]

I think a lot of this is also the result of like the QAnon brained idea that like they're trafficking 4 year olds and like no, this is mostly like really young teenagers. That's mostly what these guys are into. And Megyn Kelly specifically was talking about Epstein.

[Robert Evans]

They haven't really young, they're six 15 to 17 year old girls. Right. That's the part of the problem is that a huge number of, of not just men, but largely men in this country don't see 15 to 17 year.

[Mia Wong]

Old girls as children, which they are. And like.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah, that's really, yeah something of an issue.

[Mia Wong]

It's just struck like just incredible structural misogyny. That's just, yeah. And so, and that's what they're sort of trying to bake all of this stuff as now and I guess we'll see whether it works or not just because.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

I don't think this line from Megan Kelly is going to be very successful on a large scale of but a fibophilia. I don't think it's, I don't think it's gonna work. I, I. Her motivations for this are I'm sure not great.

[Robert Evans]

Now you don't know that Garrison and.

[Garrison Davis]

I think in some ways she is pulling from like this like QAnon brained idea.

[Robert Evans]

Right.

[Garrison Davis]

That these are a whole bunch of like basically infants.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

Well, what else do we want to talk about?

[Robert Evans]

Let's talk about January 6th and the terrorisms. Sure.

[Garrison Davis]

I love neither of those things.

[Robert Evans]

I, I, I. Garrison, you love terrorism.

[Garrison Davis]

I had a fun day. No, I honestly I had, I had a great January 6th.

[Robert Evans]

That's good.

[Garrison Davis]

That was a really fun morning for me.

[Robert Evans]

That was a hoot of a day. Boy howdy. When they breached the, the Capitol doors. Great time. Well, windows first, but yeah, I think.

[Garrison Davis]

You mean when the FBI breached the Capitol doors. Roberts.

[Mia Wong]

Sure.

[Robert Evans]

Yes. So this all takes me to the substack of a guy named Rod Dreher. Rod is. He wouldn't call himself a fascist, but if you ever bring up is this specific fascist from history bad, he'd say, well, not compared to the communists. They stopped. Right. That's the kind of conservative conservative that Rod is.

[Garrison Davis]

He's basically friends with Victor Orbot.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah. He's basically friends with Viktor Orbot.

[Mia Wong]

Yeah. Didn't he just write a piece called Are Women Ruining the Workplace?

[Robert Evans]

He's written several like that, yes.

[Mia Wong]

I think he just like the.

[Robert Evans]

I'm talking about when he came out with. On November 10th called what I Saw and Heard in Washington. And he was at a meeting with President Vice President James Darrell Vance. Not what advancement. Yeah, James Dolan. Vance. That's a good James Dolan. You're a real New Yorker now, Gare. Are you pissed about the Knicks permanently?

[Garrison Davis]

No, basketball's too masculine for me.

[Robert Evans]

So he came out with this article about this, this meeting that, that Vance had with Victor Orban and some other Republican luminaries. And for a little bit of context, Dreher is again, you wouldn't call him an anti Trumper. You'd call him a guy who thinks that Trump is going to doom the right and doom the right to fascism unless JD Vance can save them. He actually has a recent. His most recent column is basically, J.D. vance is the only person who can save the right wing from fascism. And he's a weird dude who like reads a lot of Hannah Arendt, but absolutely does not understand her. But this article of his based on this meeting is useful for a couple of reasons. One that I'm sure Gary and I will talk about in more detail later is Dreher estimates in here that 30 to 40% of the zoomers who are working for the Republican Party in D.C. are Groipers, aka fans of Holocaust denier and.

[Garrison Davis]

True. True.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah. Is that what, is that what you Gen Z kids are saying for Truth Garrison?

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah, that's that.

[Robert Evans]

Okay.

[Garrison Davis]

That's Truth Nuke.

[Robert Evans]

I can't keep. I can't really keep track of that shit anymore.

[James Stout]

Truth Nuke.

[Robert Evans]

Great. No, that makes sense. Sure.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah, they're all gropers. Or at least 40% are.

[Robert Evans]

30, 30, 40%. And I actually, number one, he. Dreher, he's not someone that I, I think just makes up nonsense. I think he's like wrong because his brain is bad. But I. He provides some backup, including interviews and conversations he had for this. And this is consistent with other information coming out of the Beltway. I think he's probably Pretty close to the accurate number here. Right? 34 to 40% seems believable. Gare, I think you're more or less in the same area there.

[James Stout]

Garrison is 30 to 40% at Groipe. Yes, that's.

[Robert Evans]

Yes, that's. That's what I meant. James, thank you for the most charitable reading of my sentence there. Now the thing that I thought was. The other thing that I thought was interesting from this article is because he's trying to talk about why the media, which he sees as an inherently left lean organization, even though we just talked about all of the carrying water for Jeffrey Epstein while attacking trans people. Shit, that they did.

[Garrison Davis]

A right wing slash liberal organization. I would, I would agree.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah, you have to, you have to get over some of his aspects of phrasing, but he's talking about why one of some of the reasons why he thinks that the institutions in our society, like zoomers, do not trust them. And this is where I think he's on the money, because I think that the reason why so many Gen Z Republicans, like Republican staffers, are groipers is what he gets at, which is that they're having the same problem as the rest of Gen Z. They're just approaching it from a fascist standpoint. But they all are starting from the same point, which is I'm fucked. My generation is fucked.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Robert Evans]

There's no jobs. I'm not going to own a house. The climate is screwed. Like they're blaming the Jews for it, but they're, they're starting at the same place.

[Garrison Davis]

It's school shooter politics.

[Robert Evans]

Right? School shooter politics, yes.

[Garrison Davis]

Some people understand this and they decide to do a school shooting. These guys decide to get jobs in Washington. Yes, but it's the same psyche behind the mechanism.

[Robert Evans]

Exactly right. And I'm going to read a quote from Dreher's article and then we'll move past him to the primary thing I wanted to talk about here. And this is him talking about, you know, why these zoomers don't trust the system and want to destroy everything. The institutions of our society as they see it have lied and lied and lied and still lie. They still lie in many ways about race, refusing to be honest about black crime. They lie about COVID They lied about males and females and they forced the insanity of gender ideology on us all. The military lied about Iraq. The universities embrace. Is it just the military? Yeah, just the military, Rod. The universities embraced and enforced ideologies of lies. The Catholic Church lied about sexual abuse and the connection to the prevalence of sexually active gay Priests? Is that the problem? Honeycombing the institution? They lied about the benefits of mass migration and diversity. They lied about Trump and Russia. They sure didn't. Political parties and their corporate allies lied about what globalism would mean for ordinary people. The media have lied, and they do lie about most things. This past weekend, everybody was talking about the new report in Blaze media alleging that the mysterious January 6th Pipe Bomber was in fact a former Capitol Police officer. The implications being that the whole event was orchestrated by the deep State to discredit Donald Trump. Maybe mainstream media are busy trying to validate this reporting on their own. If the Blaze has this wrong, they're going to be sued into oblivion and so will all the other media who amplify a false charge. I can tell you that. No, all I can tell you is that nobody in the MSM are talking about it as I write it. Even though it is an explosive story. People were in fact talking about it.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Robert Evans]

And in fact, before we could do this episode, the Bulwark, which is. Has a. Both a website with articles and is a podcast network, came up with an article by Will Sommer, who used to write for the.

[Garrison Davis]

He's a good journalist.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah, good journalist. We took a Bellingham class together. I believe it was the Post that he wrote for at the time.

[Garrison Davis]

He was like the. One of the leading QAnon experts for years.

[James Stout]

Yeah. He was doing Daily Beast, wasn't he? For a while.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah. Daily Beast is, I think, where I knew him from. And he wrote a really good article called the Blazes Pipebomb Bombshell appears to bomb. And basically Dreyer says here, well, if the Blaze is wrong, they'll be soon to oblivion. And the short answer is, yeah, I think. Yeah, because they absolutely named this lady in the Capitol Police to. To make a long story short, if you don't want to read the whole Blaze article, you can read the piece on the Bulwark. You can read the sections of it, or you can type the link to the Blaze article into like, archive.org so you don't give them traffic if you want. It's not good the, the. It's the entire. Their entire claims that this particular woman, and I am not going to name this woman because I don't think she's the bomber and I don't think you people as being a terrorist if you're not sure they were. I will say that she's a woman and that she's a Capitol Police officer, or at least a. Now a former Capitol Police officer who is kind of insinuated by the Blaze and has been absolutely taken up by the right wing media immediately since to be a. Now she got poached by the CIA, right. And that's taken as like proof that she definitely did this. She's a security guard at the CIA's office. She's. She's not in the CIA. I'm sorry guys. She's. She's a rent a cop for the CIA. Which is, let's be fair, probably the highest rung of rent a cop. Sure. Like you know, you're taking a step up as a rent a cop. But she's not, she's not out there overthrowing democracies yet. I don't know, maybe they fast track you once you're, let's see, security guarded up. But so the whole claim that the Blaze is staking the reputation on. Because if you're not paying attention to like Infowars. Well, not reputation, their financial solvency. Because Infowars currently owes like a billion and a half dollars for wrongly accusing people of having faked mass shootings and the deaths of their own children. So their argument that this lady has to be it is based on. They have some old footage of her at like the jogging track and there's a couple of clips from the jog trap they showed. But they're claiming that this gate analysis they did between the Capitol bomber and this woman is based on footage of her that they are not publishing publicly. That's good, so that you can verify it, but that they say is 94%. And they talked to a gait analysis expert and he did a personal gait analysis and he said it had to be more like 98%. So that means basically it definitely was her because gait analysis is for sure real and not one of the. Every kind of forensic science is a lie. Lies. Gait analysis is not even very good.

[James Stout]

For buying shoes, let alone convicting someone. We have peer reviewed data to show that you shouldn't use your running shoes off gate analysis, let alone. Fuck it.

[Robert Evans]

Yes, yes, there's many articles about how it may not be the future of the shoe industry. You certainly shouldn't be hinging your publication survival. I'm getting right that somebody was a bomber.

[Garrison Davis]

This is, this is just the latest attempt by the right to, to run this whole J6 false flag conspiracy which is picking up a lot of steam. Like a few months ago, the FBI released some information on how many agents they had in the area during January 6th. And this led many, many conservative commentators to believe. Oh look, the FBI has Just admitted that it was their agents that actually started the riot and was most of the like rowdy, rambunctious crowd members and no, the specific wording on the announcement or statement regarding the presence of agents at J6 was after, after the insurrection had already started and agents were sent there to keep it under control. That's what it was referring to. And, and Cash Patel released a statement days later clarifying this. But of course that doesn't pick up nearly as much traction as the original claims were. So this, this whole gate analysis thing is continuing on this, this whole conspiracy theory about how the FBI and the CIA staged all of January 6th to crush Trump and remove him from power and probably warrants of a future episode just on January 6th. Conspiracy theories that have propagated the past few months.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah, we, we probably, I mean, honestly, yes, but, but okay, to continue with this. So gait analysis was half of what their case lay on. The other half of the case was interviews with a couple of different people, primarily an FBI whistleblower, a former FBI agent who made a claim that like yeah, we, we, we tied the woman, the, the, this officer's neighbor to a vehicle that like picked up the bomber. This is not based on publicly available information. This is based on the statements made by former FBI agent Kyle Seraphim, who is now a right wing media personality.

[Garrison Davis]

Of course.

[Robert Evans]

And we're just trusting that this guy who is former FBI agent trying to rebrand himself as an influencer is telling us the truth about all of this stuff that they're not presenting us with. This is, this is kind of dressed up as osint, but they're not actually providing you with the information.

[Garrison Davis]

No. There's no actual open source intelligence you.

[Robert Evans]

Can'T work back from there from because they're hiding a lot of stuff. Right. There's a couple other things that Sommer notes in his article here. To make their case against the former Capitol Police officer, Baker, who's the author and co author, Joseph H. Hanneman, focused on a comparison between the officer's gates, some of which was apparently captured in years old footage of her playing soccer and footage of the pipe bombs that trek from the night of January 5th. Instead of using suspect footage released by the FBI, however, the blaze claims it used footage from another source. The article doesn't name. Critically, the Blaze didn't release an actual video comparison or significant details of the gate analysis. Instead, it draws on the work of a man the Blaze called a video sleuth, a little known X user named Armitas, whose Online profile image is a picture from the 1998 role playing video game Xenogears.

[Garrison Davis]

Hell yeah, Xenogears. Great twinks in that video game.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Robert Evans]

You're not going to get sued into oblivion for this shit. The Blaze. I'm proud of you guys.

[James Stout]

I can't believe the people who published Vance Bolter's probably last interview would do this.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah. Shocking, shocking stuff. Now, to be again, totally fair here, Dreyer does not treat this with any sort of critical thought whatsoever. But actually a bunch of the people critiquing this have been on the right, and I partially agree with Drayer is I think it's a mistake that the mainstream media has not dedicated more effort to busting this immediately and to pointing out the weaknesses and stuff like gate analysis immediately out the gate. So it does kind of seem like they're ignoring it. I think they're largely, I think largely this isn't getting covered because it's so shady and bad and because it's dangerous to spread these kinds of claims about a person.

[Mia Wong]

Sure.

[Garrison Davis]

I mean, yeah, it's like, it's like the Blaze. It's not, it's not even Fox News. Right.

[Robert Evans]

There's already law enforcement stationed outside this woman's house because of the number of threats that she. Right. Like, like again, there's, she has ample claims for damages here. Yeah, yeah. So a couple of the people who have come after one of them is. Or after this article, one of them is Julie Kelly, who's a right wing media figure and is a major like force in the January 6th conspiracy theory world. And she is largely attacking the Blaze because she's doing her own investigation into the. Who did the pipe bombing. Right. So she's, she's pointed out some very obvious problems. Why don't you post that other video you have? Right. Why don't you show the evidence of the gate analysis? Right. So she, she's been attacking this as has Joe Hoft, who's co founder of the Gateway Pundit.

[Garrison Davis]

Hell yeah.

[Robert Evans]

Oh God, yeah. Great stuff. So there's, there's people on the right talking shit about this stuff. It's worth noting that when this initially came out, Glenn Beck spent days beforehand hyping it up and talking about how like this is the biggest. I think that he literally called it like the biggest conspiracy in American history, maybe, which like, Jesus Christ, dream smaller.

[Garrison Davis]

Come on, dude.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah, but within like a day of the article actually coming out, the Blaze added an editor's note.

[James Stout]

Like most of this is wrong, which.

[Robert Evans]

Is pretty damning an earlier version of this story said it appeared the bombing suspect interacted with police. After publication. A congressional investigator with access to a camera angle that has not been made public reached out and told Blaze News a person similarly attired to the suspected bomber who comes out of the alley and crosses the street towards the two Capitol Police vehicles is not the same person as the hoodie clad pipe bomb suspect walking down the alley just minutes earlier.

[Garrison Davis]

Amazing.

[Robert Evans]

Wouldn't their gate analysis have shown that amazing work? Wouldn't you have known that if gait analysis was real?

[Garrison Davis]

It's almost like you can't rely on gait analysis to identify individuals.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah, it's almost like this is all. Anyway, I largely did this just because you, Rod Dreher. I like. We covered this stupid ass story. Will Sommer covered this stupid ass story and we made fun of it. Thank you, Will. Thank you. The Bulwark. This is what I've got. I'm done.

[Garrison Davis]

That drear piece is also crazy and just surreal because of how much of it is like talking about how we as in the right needs to like, re. Recalibrate how we discuss the, the. The. The reality of like complete Jewish control over our media and how it's fine actually, because a whole bunch of various like, like ethnicities excel in various fields. And that's not weird. So it's not weird that Jews control all the media. We shouldn't be worried about this. And how, how much of that piece feels like it could have been written in like the 1920s. Yes, it's. It was. It's a. It's a crazy time capsule.

[Robert Evans]

Yep.

[Garrison Davis]

Anyway, that's my opinions on the drear substack piece.

[Mia Wong]

Anti Semitism versus anti Semitism. It's a great time.

[Garrison Davis]

I mean, sure. I mean, you could have a. I, I would have a slightly more complicated analysis of the piece than just anti Semitism because Trier approaches that issue really oddly. I don't think he's anti Semitic, frankly.

[James Stout]

I don't think he thinks he's anti Semitic.

[Mia Wong]

I don't think he thinks he is. Yeah, but it's like. I think that there's a difference between what he believes about himself and what he's trying to do and what he is doing and.

[Garrison Davis]

Sure. I mean, I mean, even. Even in the way that the article is written and like a lot of it is.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

I mean, attacking a certain type of anti Semitism on the right.

[Robert Evans]

Well, you guys know what Rod Dreher would hate other than an editor?

[Garrison Davis]

I think he would actually love some ads.

[Mia Wong]

Oh, God.

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[Robert Evans]

My life, although it may look like an anomaly, it has only been possible because I was obedient to the call.

[TD Jakes]

This episode dives deep into how Oprah turned pain into purpose and what it really means to evolve with everybody watching.

[Robert Evans]

Every decision I have ever made has come from sitting with the spirit and asking, God, what would you have me do first?

[TD Jakes]

Whether you're rebuilding, reimagining, or just trying to hold it together, this one will speak directly to you. Listen to Next chapter on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Episodes drop weekly.

[Robert Evans]

All I know is what I've been told and that's a half truth is a whole lie.

[Maggie Freeling]

For almost a day decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Robert Evans]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[Maggie Freeling]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[Robert Evans]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[Maggie Freeling]

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[Robert Evans]

I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff.

[Garrison Davis]

That y' all said.

[Robert Evans]

They literally made me say that I.

[Maggie Freeling]

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[Robert Evans]

They made me say that I poured gas on her.

[Maggie Freeling]

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[Robert Evans]

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[Maggie Freeling]

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[Robert Evans]

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[Gisele Bryant]

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[Robert Evans]

It can be such a struggle for.

[Gisele Bryant]

Our quality of life.

[Robert Evans]

But even if it's natural, why should.

[Gisele Bryant]

We suffer through it?

[Maggie Freeling]

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[Robert Evans]

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[James Stout]

All right, we are back and we're going to do some very brief immigration stuff and then we'll play the song you've all been waiting for and be will talk to you. The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops.

[Garrison Davis]

Based, Based, based.

[James Stout]

Yeah. Thank you. G. Issued a statement this week. It's about the strongest condemnation you're going to see from this entity of anything in a political realm. Right.

[Garrison Davis]

Pope Leo has not been solved on this issue.

[James Stout]

No. Yeah. He is unlike we saw it like with Bishop Farm in San Diego. Right. Like who himself arrived as in what they call an unaccompanied minor.

[Robert Evans]

Right.

[James Stout]

A child refugee. I'm going to read from the statement. Quote, we are disturbed when we see among our people a climate of fear and anxiety around questions of profiling and immigration enforcement. We are saddened by the state of contemporary debate and the vilification of migrants. We are concerned about the conditions in detention centers and the lack of access to pastoral care. We lament that some immigrants in the United States have arbitrarily lost their legal status. We are troubled by threats against the sanctity of houses of worship and the special nature of hospitals and schools. We are grieved when we meet parents who fear being detained when taking their children to school, when we try to console family members who have already been separated from their loved ones. This isn't a usual.

[Garrison Davis]

Based, based, based, based, based.

[James Stout]

Garrison has got a. Got a crucifix. I guess they haven't done this for like 12 years. Right. Last time they did it about contraception. Not saying. The Catholic Church is, is an, an organization that I agree with all the time. It is not. It's one that I disagree with most of the time. But I still think this is important. Right. Like this is which has millions of followers in the United States. Many, many Catholics around the world.

[Garrison Davis]

A lot of Catholics.

[James Stout]

Yeah. This is an organization which therefore we should pay attention to. Right. And I think it is telling that, yeah, the, the woke pope has not stopped with this and that it seems like the vast majority of bishops in the United States are on his side.

[Garrison Davis]

No, it's, it's, it is, it is pretty funny that we have like a never Trumper, nominally conservative woke Pope and the fact that he will not back down on this issue and has actually has a number of statements on this the past, the past few weeks and not softly worded statements either.

[Robert Evans]

Catholic priests have also been reasonably good on this issue. Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

And it's important especially because of how much these like, weird, like fascist friendly trads are using Catholicism as like a fashion statement and J.D. vance included.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah.

[James Stout]

I was going to say our vice president.

[Garrison Davis]

To have the actual church be like pretty freaked out by that, I think is good. It'd be worse if they were leaning into it, which certainly some, some cardinals like want when they were doing their selection.

[James Stout]

Well, if you look at the, the votes in this issue, right. Like 216 votes in favor, five against and three abstentions. So among bishops, which is distinct from cardinals, like this is, this is almost universal. Right. And yet given that a vice president has made being adult convert to Catholicism a large part of his personality.

[Garrison Davis]

Embarrassing.

[James Stout]

Yeah. This is like, it is remarkable. It's worth paying attention to. Also, I think when I talk to migrants, specifically, like when I was in the Darien Gap talking to migrants, their faith is massively important to so many of them.

[Garrison Davis]

Totally.

[James Stout]

And a lot of people, especially coming from south and Central America, will be Catholic. Right. And that is what propels them through. And so for them to feel that the church has not abandoned them, it is important to them.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah.

[James Stout]

The thing, when I speak to people now who are here, the thing that they want more than anything is a priest to come to their hearing, to their meeting with them, like that is what makes them feel safe. And so I am happy that the church is continuing to try and make them feel safe because.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah. What else are you going to do? Right.

[James Stout]

Yeah, we're trying everything else and it's not working.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah. I defer to what will make the person being victimized feel better in basically all instances. And if it's having a priest along, then I'm glad the priest is there.

[James Stout]

Yeah. And I am. I'm happy that this is something that can make them feel safer because, you.

[Garrison Davis]

Know, critical support to the Catholic Church.

[James Stout]

Yeah, yeah.

[Robert Evans]

Very critical.

[Mia Wong]

Yeah. Well, emphasis on the critical part, I think. I think the other thing is worth noting that this same conference also voted to have an official ban on any gender affirming care at Catholic hospitals, which is like 1 in 7 of all people in the US get their care at Catholic hospitals because there's a million of them. Critical. Yeah. Like lots of. They're not.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah, look, they're. They're no Protestants. Okay. It does feel bad to have so much Catholic praise on the show.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

But, you know, I. I will swallow my Protestant pride here.

[James Stout]

Yeah. I'm neither Catholic nor Protestant, but I'm glad this is happening.

[Garrison Davis]

You're British.

[James Stout]

Yes. So we straddle the two. Do we do Catholicism without Popes?

[Robert Evans]

I think we should have popes without Catholicism.

[Garrison Davis]

See, that's interesting, Robert. That's an interesting idea.

[Robert Evans]

That's discordianism.

[James Stout]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That's kind of the least interesting version. A real kind of non Catholic, like clerical class. Anyway, I'm gonna put this down in my. My Sci Fi novel folder. You know, isn't stock brokers a forum of, you know, aren't.

[James Stout]

Just fade them out.

[Robert Evans]

Fade them out, Adam.

[James Stout]

Just, just, just gradually reduce the volume.

[Robert Evans]

Okay.

[James Stout]

We're going to get. We're back to immigration. We did learn this week that the Department of Homeland Security secretly and illegally kept domestic data on 900 Chicagoland residents under Biden, just in case anyone was wondering what they were doing before people started paying attention to them. They also, quote, irrevocably destroyed video from inside Broadview, which is ice tension facility in Chicagoland.

[Mia Wong]

Yeah, of course they did.

[James Stout]

I'm not shocked by that. I will say. Like, I would have been shocked if that had happened under a previous administration, put it that way. Like it's not massively out of character for them to be incompetent at soaring and this kind of thing. And Ken Paxton has attempted to sue Harris County, a place in Texas for donating not to nonprofits that provide legal aid to migrants. He has some justification to this, which is ludicrous. But I'm just going to name a few of the. The NGOs here. Galveston, Houston Immigrant Representation Project. Kids in need of defense, justice for all immigrants Raices and Baker Ripley. Yeah, this does, I think, show part of the strategy which we saw and we have seen since 2018. Right. Like you'll remember that lots of NGO volunteers in 2018 were placed on a watch list, as were many journalists, for crossing to cover the migrant caravan. But this idea that the NGOs are, quote, aiding and abetting is a phrase you always see. Right. Like that somehow people would come here if it wasn't for NGOs. Often this takes on a specific form of blaming one ngo, which is HIAS or he US Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society Rate.

[Robert Evans]

And we saw one guess as to why they blame that one.

[James Stout]

Yeah, it's like repeat guest of the show, antisemitism coming back again.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah.

[James Stout]

Which resulted directly in, in the, in the tree of life shooting. Right. Like this is of that same intellectual family of thought, I guess is what I will say. It's ludicrous. People come here because their lives are not livable where they're at there. That's what I got played, Played a song.

[Mia Wong]

All right, so there is actually a surprising amount of tariff dues. All right, the tariff rebate checks. Are we getting tariff rebate checks? I, I think probably not. So what is this? Trump started talking about this on November 8th on True Social per USA Today.

[Garrison Davis]

He truthed.

[Mia Wong]

I refuse to call it truthed. I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the hundreds of billions of dollars, as the hundreds of billions are capitalized for reasons that are baffling, currently being sent to money sucking insurance companies in order to save the bad health care provided by Obamacare, be directly sent to the people so that they can purchase their own health care, their own much better health care. And so originally this was going to be like a $2,000 thing to your health savings account from tariff proceeds or something. And then the second time he stopped talking about the health savings account stuff and he was just saying a $2,000 check. The USA Today the piece notes that the Secretary of the Treasury, Scott Bessett said in ABC News on November 9, which was Sunday, that Trump's proposed tariff dividend, quote, could come in a lot of forms, adding it could just be the tax decreases that we are seeing on the President's agenda. No tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security, deductibility of auto loans. He said. So those are substantial deductions that are being financed the tax bill. So he apparently, like hadn't heard any of this is what it seems like. And then a few days later, this was, this was Yesterday, on Wednesday the 12th, Caroline Levitt, who's the ghoulish press secretary, said that Trump is, quote, committed to the payments. So who knows?

[Garrison Davis]

You can't call her ghoulish just because she's a 27 year old woman who looks like that. Mia, that's not cool.

[Mia Wong]

Hey, so you know what? If we're not working, we're not going to do this. But she, no, she, she, she is ghoulish. Not because she looks like she's 40 and she doesn't look kind of.

[Robert Evans]

She looks like a ghoul, but like she is a ghoulish.

[Mia Wong]

No, but like she also acts like a ghoul constantly, which is the actual thing that she is ghoulish for. Right.

[Garrison Davis]

Every press secretary I've ever seen has made me so mad. Like, the job of a press secretary is infuriating.

[James Stout]

Yeah. Remember the sake bombs?

[Mia Wong]

Well, also, like, they've never been good. They also did used to be more normal than this. Like they didn't used to be this unhinged.

[James Stout]

Yeah. The Biden admin didn't bring him back. I feel like the first Trump admin moved him in a certain way.

[Mia Wong]

The Biden admin people got hinged too. It's just awful. Terrible stuff. Didn't used to be like this. One of the few things I'll ever say that about.

[Garrison Davis]

Anyway, as you were saying.

[Mia Wong]

Yeah. So she said that Trump is committed to the payments. I, again, I don't think we're going to see this. Probably not. Definitely don't plan on having an extra $2,000.

[Garrison Davis]

Well, I think he's, I think he's committed to the payments as much as he is his like first or second wife.

[Mia Wong]

Yeah. Which is not much. So the second, the second incredibly important piece of tariff news is the pasta tariffs. The Department of Commerce is closing finally 7% pasta tariffs on imported Italian pasta.

[Robert Evans]

Garrison, it's fine. It's the first terrifying. Macaroni and cheese is still available. You can still get your Mac. You know, it's okay.

[Mia Wong]

As the Guardian points out, most pasta in the US Is made in the US So it's not really affected by those I buy. Well, hold on, hold on. Let me, let me, allow me to finish the sentence. Garrison. I will address pretension tags. Sue. It's, it's mostly just gluten. It's mostly gluten free pasta. And also like imported fancy pasta, which is like nice pasta.

[Garrison Davis]

Well, fancy is a bit of a. Okay. It's like $2 more. Okay.

[James Stout]

Yeah. Attack some pretension you know, and so this.

[Mia Wong]

But this sucks for people who like pasta. That's good. And also for people who are allergic to gluten or who just are trying to reduce the amount of gluten they're eating for, like, diabetic reasons, et cetera, et cetera. That all really sucks. In that same piece. Yeah, that same Guardian piece. The unbelievably named Scott Ketchum, who is the founder of, like, an artisanal.

[Robert Evans]

Ketchum's a real last name. That's why the Pokemon game is believable.

[James Stout]

Ketchum's a place in Idaho.

[Garrison Davis]

I don't understand why Ketchum is funny. Why is Ketchum funny?

[Robert Evans]

Did you not play the Pokemon?

[James Stout]

Did you two.

[Garrison Davis]

No, I kept him to make.

[Mia Wong]

Also. Also, it's so close to being ketchup. And I think about. Okay, think about Italian pasta. Whatever. Okay.

[Garrison Davis]

You put ketchup on Italian pasta. Interesting.

[Mia Wong]

No, but do you know. Do you know who does do this? Chinese hotels. In 2009, a thing I discovered when they, for some reason fed us, tried to feed us American food instead of feeding us Chinese food. And dear God, awful. 0 out of 10.

[Robert Evans]

That's my favorite thing in any foreign country is when they're like, I know what you want. American food. You came to Greece to eat at TGI Fridays, didn't you?

[Garrison Davis]

Burger is all over Berlin now.

[Robert Evans]

Burger's not American.

[James Stout]

Hamburg.

[Mia Wong]

Right.

[Garrison Davis]

It is now.

[James Stout]

The. I feel like you'd be disappointed, Garrison, if you knew how many people in continental Europe are eating pasta and ketchup on a daily basis.

[Robert Evans]

We used to brown sugar roll.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah, well, Europeans are. Europeans are obviously sick.

[James Stout]

Yeah. You've been to Belgium.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah, that's wrong. I have.

[James Stout]

Yeah. There you go.

[Mia Wong]

Okay, locking. Locking back in. Locking back in on the positive.

[Garrison Davis]

Anarchist Cafe was closed. It was 2pm Those lazy.

[Mia Wong]

Look at the conditions that I have to deal with every time I mention inflation outcome. The inflation jokes. Every time I try to finish. This is about pasta. God. Okay, finishing this. Scott Ketchum agrees that the manufacturers will, quote, take advantage of the news and slightly raise their prices. That's just business. He said. So this actually probably will increase pasta prices across the board because they'll use this as justification for raising prices canonically.

[James Stout]

How old is Ash Ketchum? I'm trying to work out if this is a sibling.

[Robert Evans]

I think he's like, 13 in 1996.

[Mia Wong]

He'S been like, 13 for. No, but he's been 13 for his.

[James Stout]

Entire life, so we think siblings more than parents.

[Garrison Davis]

Jeffrey Epstein's. Dream.

[James Stout]

Yeah, okay. Ash Ketchen's brother, put it in the law.

[Mia Wong]

Oh, my God. Okay, okay. Two more things. Two more things. We got to get there. I swear to God. Okay. One 50 year mortgage. TRUMP has become obsessed with the idea of 50 year mortgages. Just an idea. So unhinged. I haven't seen any Republicans talk about this positively. The mortgage industry is like, don't do this. This is a bad idea. I'm not going to read this. The full paragraph I had here from cnn. But you know, CNN did a very basic calculation of instead of a 30 year fixed mortgage, a 50 year fixed mortgage. So the, the, basically their calculation on like a $450,000 house was that you would save about $300 a month technically, but over the course of the loan, instead of spending about $550,000 in interest, you would spend a million dollars in interest.

[James Stout]

Fantastic.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah, that rules.

[James Stout]

That's how we save money. By giving half a million dollars to the bank.

[Robert Evans]

Well, hey, you're not even talking about the 15 year auto loans.

[Mia Wong]

Yeah.

[Robert Evans]

You know, everyone who buys a Kia can trust that it will keep working for 15 years.

[Mia Wong]

He's gonna say houses aren't lasting 50 out of like cardboard.

[Robert Evans]

Right. Like, they're just more than twice the.

[James Stout]

Value of the house in interest.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

Make America affordable again. Yeah.

[Robert Evans]

Okay.

[Mia Wong]

Unbelievable. And then finally, I want to close with what is actually going on with the jobs and inflation numbers for October because I think people are getting a lot of very bad information about this. I mean, and it's not their fault.

[Garrison Davis]

It's again, because the Democrat shutdown made it impossible to get any reliable data. So now we can never have data ever again.

[Robert Evans]

Yeah.

[Mia Wong]

So, okay, okay, so let's, let's, let's, let's go into like, what is it? What is actually going on here? So on Wednesday, Caroline Levitt said that we might not ever get October. The October jobs and inflation data.

[Robert Evans]

Oops.

[Mia Wong]

However, comma, I'm sure this number is.

[Garrison Davis]

Would have been fine.

[James Stout]

The spirit Halloween bump would have been huge.

[Mia Wong]

Comma, on Thursday, National Economic Council director Kevin Hassett, who by the way, is the guy whose whole thing is that he wants to, he wants to impose taxes on holding U.S. bonds. The worst, maybe the only idea I've ever seen.

[Robert Evans]

Well, I don't know if that's worse.

[Mia Wong]

Than a 50 year mortgage. Astonishingly bad ideas. But he said on Fox News, this is today, as day of recording, said on Fox News that we're going to get some of the data, but the data we're supposed to get is very weird now. So this is the September data we're supposed to get next week because that was already recorded before the, before the government shut. Right.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah.

[Mia Wong]

And there is legitimately, even in a sort of. Not if a normal Bureau of Labor Statistics was trying to get these statistics out, it would be a little difficult for them. However, comma, we're only getting the jobs added numbers and not the job loss numbers.

[Garrison Davis]

Oh, wow.

[Robert Evans]

Goodbyes only.

[James Stout]

What a, what a great strategy.

[Garrison Davis]

So, yeah, I'm sure that, I'm sure that number is fine. I'm sure it's not negative 70,000 jobs or something.

[Mia Wong]

Yeah, yeah, right. And, you know, apparently that's because the survey, the collected information never went out. And I, I mean, it probably didn't because of the shutdown, but also, like, you could, you could work this out. They're just not doing it. We talked a few months ago about Trump's attempt to take over the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which with his attempt to install the hideously incompetent Heritage Foundation. Economists, and I use that term very loosely here, E.J. and Tony. And Trump was actually forced to like, pull back on installing this guy as the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics. So it's being run by the interim head and has been for a long time now. But it seems like, A, there's conflicting information going out and B, it does seem like Trump has been able to get a decent amount of control over the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which is supposed to be a nonpartisan body that just releases the data because everyone in the entire capitalist economy relies on it. And it is possible that this is that, that we have already gotten our last unrigged like Bureau of Labor Statistics report. I mean, I can't confirm that they're straight up rigging it. And it's also possible that, oh, well, this wasn't the product of that. And we are going to get some of the data like we are supposed to get inflation numbers, but it's not good.

[Garrison Davis]

Oops. Well, to end on some good news, I guess on Monday, the Supreme Court rejected a call to overturn or hear its previous ruling on legalizing same sex marriage nationwide. So this is where, this is where they're, this is where they're drawing the line right now, is this, I think, I think I did predict this a few months ago in which people got a little bit mad at me for saying that I didn't think they were going to pick this one up. Another W in the gear column. But I think it is Fairly interesting that this is, this is the point in which they're like, nah, nah, it's not worth it. Like this. This is more settled to them than even the abortion thing was. I think, I think some of the general, like economic issues shows that there's not a real desire for pushing on this right now based on, you know, gestures broadly at other economy stuff. And some of the, some of the, some of the anti woke fuel maybe, maybe running out as the, as the economic situation becomes more and more dire. Dire. Right. Like how much longer can the Republicans just scream about trans people as they're ruining the economy? Do you think that's going to still work for them in 2026? Maybe not. They might be scared that they've put all of their eggs in this whole anti woke culture basket and now that they're in charge and the country's still getting worse, they're like, well, I wonder if we can replay that card again or not.

[Mia Wong]

As, as a final economy note, I want to note that SoftBank sold all of their shares in Nvidia. $5 billion of Nvidia share.

[Garrison Davis]

Don't worry about it. It's part of regular stock rotation. It's fine.

[Mia Wong]

These are the biggest rubes who have ever existed.

[Robert Evans]

Have gotten rid of all the videos of shits.

[Mia Wong]

These are the. We weren't guys.

[Robert Evans]

Holding the bag for we work. Yes. Which, I mean, does that mean that they're. They're getting out too early of AI or does it mean that they're hesitant, they're gun shy enough that they got out just in time?

[James Stout]

We'll see who can say. Yep. All right.

[Mia Wong]

We reported the news. Garrison, I'm stealing your line this week.

[Garrison Davis]

Why?

[Robert Evans]

We all stole that line from a terrible man.

[Garrison Davis]

You haven't seen the Newsroom. It's stolen Valor.

[Mia Wong]

Yep.

[Garrison Davis]

Great show. I would love a new season of the Newsroom where he works for some like, bullshit, like, Internet news company. He's like, he's like a substacker and he has like a home studio.

[James Stout]

Oh, there's top 10 lists constantly. Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

God, I would love that. Oh, I would love a new season.

[Robert Evans]

He's super bigoted, but they don't ever make a direct point of it. It just becomes like, subtly obvious that, like, oh, wow, this, this is a guy who's bought into some weird conspiracy theories.

[Garrison Davis]

Sure.

[Robert Evans]

I, I was thinking, because I mentioned it came out the same year as True Detective. I would like a new season of the Newsroom that's a crossover with the first season of True Detective where, where we get. We get Woody Harrelson and we get that British lady all. All in the same room together. It'll be great.

[Garrison Davis]

They would be a nasty combo. Imagine how much up they could get.

[Robert Evans]

Up to be awful. It would be awful.

[Garrison Davis]

Hell yeah.

[Robert Evans]

On the air anymore.

[Garrison Davis]

Oh no, we're still on the air.

[Robert Evans]

Oh well, I stopped recording.

[Garrison Davis]

We reported the news.

[Robert Evans]

We reported the news.

[Mia Wong]

It could happen.

[Maggie Freeling]

Here is a production of Cool Zone Media. For more podcasts from Cool Zone Media, Visit our website coolzone media.com or check us out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you listen to podcasts. You can now find sources for It Could Happen here listed directly in Episode Descriptions. Thanks for listening. The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Robert Evans]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.

[Maggie Freeling]

Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Robert Evans]

I knew it was a bomb the second that it exploded. I felt it rip through me. In season two of Rip Current, we.

[Mia Wong]

Asked who tried to kill Judy Berry.

[Robert Evans]

And why they were climbing trees and.

[James Stout]

They were sabotaging logging equipment in the woods.

[Mia Wong]

She received death threats before the bombing. She received more threats after the bombing. I think that this is a deliberate.

[Robert Evans]

Attempt to sabotage our movement. Episodes of Rip Current Season 2 are available now. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Garrison Davis]

I'm Jonathan Goldstein and on the new season of Heavyweight. And so I pointed the gun at.

[Robert Evans]

Said this isn't a joke.

[Garrison Davis]

A man who robbed a bank when he was 14 years old and a centenarian rediscovers a love lost 80 years ago.

[James Stout]

How can 101-year-old woman fall in love again?

[Garrison Davis]

Listen to heavyweight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Gisele Bryant]

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[Robert Evans]

This is an iHeart podcast.