UFOs, Spies, and Pizzagate: The Clinton Epstein Deposition

Summary

It Could Happen Here: UFOs, Spies, and Pizzagate – The Clinton Epstein Deposition (March 9, 2026)

Episode Overview

This episode of “It Could Happen Here” dives into the headline-dominating depositions of Hillary and Bill Clinton before the House Oversight Committee regarding their knowledge and associations with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. Host Garrison Davis, joined by Sophie Lichterman, unpacks the testimony, the committee’s (in)competence, the swirl of conspiracy theories, and the broader implications for accountability, government oversight, and public discourse.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Context and Setup

• The Clintons were subpoenaed to testify about DOJ handling of Jeffrey Epstein's case, resisting testimony for months before agreeing under threat of contempt (04:19).
• Testimony ultimately took place in closed-door, camera-monitored depositions; transcripts and video would eventually be released (19:09).
• Committee members repeatedly blurred the lines between actual oversight and partisan spectacle, often fixating on petty errors, at times engaging in outright humiliation rituals.

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2. Hillary Clinton’s Deposition: Combative and Controlled

Opening Statement & Personal Distance

• Hillary stated she had “no knowledge” of Epstein’s crimes, did not recall ever meeting him, nor visiting his properties or flying on his plane (05:28).
• Acknowledged Ghislaine Maxwell was a plus-one at Chelsea Clinton’s wedding in 2010, but asserted her ignorance of Maxwell’s criminality until it became public.
• Clinton Foundation interactions: Hillary was not involved in session selection when Maxwell led an ocean advocacy breakout at a 2013 event; at that time, Maxwell was still publicly seen as an ocean advocate.

On Epstein's Connections

• Hillary described Bill’s relationship with Epstein as “limited” (06:59), mainly using his airplane for foundation trips, claiming it ended before Epstein’s crimes were known.

Addressing Partisan Games & Conspiracies

• Repeated, aggressive questioning involved attempts to twist details—dates, donations, and associations. Hillary consistently corrected and countered:
  • On whether donations from Epstein were to her campaign (Pat Fallon’s confusion, 08:06)
  • Dates and events, like when Chelsea’s wedding and related vacations actually happened (30:14).
• Notable quote:
  • “That is, that is on display for the entirety of this deposition.” – Garrison on Hillary’s sharpness (09:23).

On the Justice Department and Sex Trafficking

• Differentiated between the DOJ and State Department roles, clarifying limits of her jurisdiction (12:58).
• “We looked at the broad institutional approach... These very serious abuses.” – Hillary Clinton, clarifying her office's approach (12:58).
• Fiercely rejected the notion that she “abandoned survivors” (14:10).

Discrediting the Hearing’s Professionalism

• Committee member Lauren Boebert illicitly leaked a photo from the closed session to right-wing influencers, prompting Hillary’s outrage and temporary recess (20:58):
  • "I'm done with this. If you guys are doing that, I am done. You can hold me in contempt... This is just typical behavior." – Hillary Clinton (21:23).

On the “Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy” and Transparency

• When asked if the Epstein files themselves were a “right-wing conspiracy,” Hillary responded:
  • “If they are fully released as the Transparency Act requires, that would be fulfilling the responsibility of the Justice Department... but… there have been many issues with the full release...” (10:18).

On Conspirator Emails and Ritual Humiliation

• Republicans made Hillary read lurid and bizarre emails from the files and asked for emotional responses—actions Garrison and Sophie criticized as gratuitous and irrelevant (26:27–28:19).
  • “It’s a humiliation ritual… you’re just getting a woman to read the Epstein files for your own entertainment.” – Garrison Davis (27:51).

On Committee Competence

• Multiple moments revealed basic factual errors from committee members (e.g. Secretary of State dates, wedding events), which Hillary corrected (28:46–30:14).
  • "It's just frankly embarrassing that these are elected officials and they can't even get their dates right." – Sophie Lichterman (30:25).

Veering Into Conspiracy Territory: Spies and UFOs

• Questions about Epstein as an intelligence asset, foreign passports, Israeli/Russian/Iranian links, and the supposed “honeypot” operation (37:18–38:53).
  • “Is it possible?” – Q from Committee
  • “Well, it is certainly possible. It's a tried and true technique of certain intelligence agencies.” – Hillary (38:41)
• Out-of-nowhere detour into Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UFOs/UAPs) and government disclosure:
  • “This is an issue of real importance to so many people and I think whatever can be disclosed should be disclosed.” – Hillary (40:06)

Pizzagate and QAnon: Descent Into Farce

• Committee member Boebert pressed about “Pizzagate” and “frazzledrip” conspiracies (44:48–48:36).
  • “Pizzagate was totally made up. It was an outrageous allegation that ended up hurting a number of people that caused a deranged young man to show up with his assault rifle and shoot up a local pizzeria? I can't believe you're even referencing it. You should be there.” – Hillary (45:47)
• Sophie: "This is offensive to survivors of Epstein. And this is getting us no relevant information... This is inflammatory. I mean, I expect nothing less from Lauren Boebert, but it’s insane and embarrassing.” (46:18)
• Garrison: “They wanted soundbites of her reading weird things… it's just gross, you're just getting a woman to read Epstein files for your own entertainment.” (27:51)

Hillary as De Facto Advisor

• Due to committee's incapacity, Hillary is repeatedly asked for advice on investigative steps—e.g. pursuing Treasury data, contacting international agencies, probing intelligence connections (49:25–50:49).

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3. Bill Clinton’s Deposition: Evasion, Faded Memories, and the Plane Trips

Framing

• Bill began by saying the committee “should not have questioned Hillary” and “You should have called me. I did take those plane trips with him. You have a right to ask those questions.” (51:23).
• He stressed memory limitations due to age: “I’ll be 88 if I live to my next birthday. I don’t remember everything that happened 24 years ago, but I do remember some things…” (51:23).

On his Relationship with Epstein

• Said first “real” meetings with Epstein were for Clinton Foundation plane trips, beginning in 2002 (51:46).
• Described Epstein as “information-hungry,” connected via Larry Summers; trips were presented as cost-effective aid logistics (52:34).
• Last trip in 2003; drifted apart as Epstein lost interest in AIDS program.
• Reiterated ignorance of and lack of participation in any sexual or illegal activities (53:49, 57:38).
• Confirmed that Secret Service accompanied him on all trips (57:38).
• Noted “never suspected Intel Agency connections” with Epstein (55:58).

Notable Exchanges and Moments

• On “chummy” New York Times characterizations, Bill denied knowledge of Epstein in the 90s despite photos showing them together at official events (55:58).
• Laughed about Noam Chomsky: “He thought I was too conservative” (55:22).
• On the infamous painting of him in a blue dress found in Epstein’s Manhattan home: Bill stated he'd never seen it and suggested the committee ask the artist (62:12).
• The viral “photo” of Bill smiling during deposition was contextually just him reacting to a New York Times article, not evidence of fond memories (59:49).
  • “That’s just Bill Clinton’s face... He’s generally like a smiley guy... again, not defending Bill Clinton.” – Sophie (60:19).

On Allegations, Abuse, and Ghislaine Maxwell

• Firm denials of being on Epstein’s island, despite victim claims; asked for diary dates to fact check alibis but moved on quickly (62:27).
• On Shantae Davies (flight attendant/neck rub): Admitted receiving a “massage” once, denied it being unusual for travel situations, claimed ignorance of any abuse (57:38).
• Admitted to writing a note for Epstein’s mother, but had no specific recollection—wrote “hundreds of notes to people I didn’t know” (55:58).
• On continued association with Ghislaine Maxwell post-2008 conviction, Bill said: “We did not know when Epstein was arrested that she was still involved with him… There’s a logical explanation. We didn’t know, and I’m sorry for what she did and what she allowed her life to become.” (68:12) — committee failed to meaningfully follow up.

Conspiracy Baiting and Twitter Moments

• Lauren Boebert repeatedly asked about suicide, Epstein’s state of mind; Bill:
  • “I think maybe he finally got caught and I don't know. I've accepted it in my own mind. I don't know what happened.” (65:01)
  • “None of us know. We weren't there.” (65:23)
• On whether Bill “liked them young”: “This isn’t true… I never went to the island.” (66:17)

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4. Committee Conduct, Incompetence, and Media Circus

• Multiple hosts criticize the committee for its incompetence—failing to understand basic facts, jurisdiction, and failing to focus on substantive new information.
  • “This committee is incompetent, embarrassing and repugnant.” – Sophie (70:10)
  • "It’s nine hours of my life I'll never get back.” – Garrison (70:51)
• Optics: Clinton team negotiated for cameras, pressed for favorable lighting and backgrounds; clearly aware of both substance and spectacle dimensions (51:23).

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Memorable Quotes & Notable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On the spectacle:
  • “If you don’t want to hear the voices…there’s going to be some. …Hillary being asked about everything from spies to aliens and QAnon Pizzagate, this is your sign to continue.” – Garrison (03:57)
• On humiliating hearing theater:
  • “[They] wanted soundbites of her reading weird things… it’s a humiliation ritual. It’s just gross.” – Garrison (27:51)
• On the committee's incompetence:
  • “It's just frankly embarrassing that these are elected officials and they can't even get their dates right.” – Sophie (30:25)
• On Pizzagate and conspiracy theory inclusion:
  • “Pizzagate was totally made up. It was an outrageous allegation…” – Hillary (45:47)
  • “This is offensive to survivors of Epstein…This is inflammatory. …It’s insane and embarrassing.” – Sophie (46:18)
• On wider implications:
  • “If these people want to pretend that they actually take…what happened to these victims seriously, then they would have a focused, focused effort on the actual subject, not all these wild partisan threads.” – Garrison (35:56)

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Timeline of Key Segments

• [03:12–19:09]: Introduction, setup for testimony, background on committee motives and the subpoena fight.
• [05:28–14:10]: Hillary’s deposition: her denials, Foundation activities, and jurisdiction distinctions.
• [20:58–21:40]: On the photo leak incident sparking angry reaction from Hillary.
• [22:41–24:51]: On DOJ withholding files, alleged government coverup.
• [26:27–28:19]: Ritual humiliation—reading lurid emails aloud.
• [28:46–30:40]: Committee confusion, basic factual misstatements.
• [37:18–41:20]: Spies, intelligence, and UFOs—Q-oriented questioning.
• [44:48–48:36]: QAnon, Pizzagate, and frazzledrip conspiracy theories aired.
• [51:23–70:10]: Bill Clinton’s deposition, evasions, and memory fog; concluding notebook on the entire spectacle.

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Tone & Style

The hosts mix dry incredulity with exasperated humor and sharp criticism, balancing contextual detail with biting observations about the hearing’s descent into partisan showboating and conspiracy-mongering. Hillary, for her part, is consistently sharp, unflappable, and sometimes openly disdainful of proceedings; Bill is more avuncular, evasive, and prone to “I don’t recall.” Both take pains to distance themselves from Epstein, while the committee repeatedly confuses timelines, roles, and basic facts.

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Final Takeaways

• The depositions produced no bombshells or revelations: both Clintons maintained limited associations with Epstein, denied wrongdoing or knowledge of abuse, and painted themselves as removed from scandal.
• The House Oversight Committee failed repeatedly to focus on meaningful oversight, instead indulging in performative conspiracy theory baiting and basic fact-check failures.
• The spectacle of the hearing, with its lighting negotiations, photo leaks, and viral moments, underlines how such high-profile proceedings now blend governance, media, and meme-factory absurdity.
• The only substantial new questions (e.g., continued association with Ghislaine Maxwell after 2008) were neglected or ignored, while victims of trafficking and abuse got little more than lip service.

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Useful For

Anyone who wants a detailed, critical, and context-rich walk-through of the Clinton-Epstein depositions—their actual content, the political theater around them, and what (little) they mean for accountability or government function. Also, a case study in how spectacle and conspiracy have overtaken substantive inquiry in American political life.

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Welcome to It Could Happen Here, a show about things falling apart. The thing falling apart this week is me. After watching nine hours of Clinton testimony the past two days, can relate. I'm Garrison Davis. I'm joined by Sophie Lichterman to discuss.

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[Garrison Davis]

Hey, Sophie.

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Hey. To discuss the Clinton testimony. I was going to say can relate after, you know, you fortunately missed that Clinton speech at the DNC in 2024. Bill Clinton, that was a really, really, really, really long hour of my life.

[Garrison Davis]

That's a long speech for, for a guy of that age, too.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. But we were together during Hillary's speech.

[Garrison Davis]

We did catch that.

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We're in the pit. I think that's when I got coven. I got the Clinton covet. Hillary got covered too at the dnc. So I think she gave it to me.

[Garrison Davis]

There you go.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's when we were up close and personal with the Clintons last. Now they're back.

[Garrison Davis]

They've never been more back.

[Podcast Host 2]

They've never been more. I completely agree.

[Garrison Davis]

If you don't want to hear the voices, I've tried to limit it, but there's going to be some. The voices of Hillary and or Bill Clinton. This is your chance. If you want to hear me talk about Hillary being asked about everything from spies to aliens and Q and on Pizza Gate, this is your sign to continue. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

So I'm excited. Let's do this.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah, let's get started. Because there is probably more, more to cover than what we'll be able to. So on February 26th and 27th, Hillary and Bill Clinton respectively testified in closed door hearings about their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. The Clintons were first subpoenaed to testify in this bipartisan House Oversight Committee investigation into the DOJ's handling of the Epstein investigation. Back in August of 2025, for months they pushed back against having to testify, arguing the process was politically motivated, that the subpoenas were quote, unquote, invalid and legally unenforceable, and that any relevant information they had could be delivered via a signed statement. In January of 2026. Chairman James Comer advanced two resolutions recommending the Clintons be held in contempt of Congress for refusing to comply. Days before a vote to hold them in contempt, the Clintons finally agreed to testify in February.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, to be fair, they did let other people give little shitty statements.

[Garrison Davis]

They sure did. That is something that Hillary specifically brought up during. During her deposition more than once. Yes. So let's start with Hillary's, because that was the first one.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

In her opening statement, she said she had no knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein's criminal activities, did not ever recall encountering Jeffrey Epstein whatsoever, never flown on the plane or visited his island homes or offices. Ghislaine Maxwell dated a family friend around 2010 named Ted Waite, who was a software developer. Waite brought Ghislaine to Hillary's daughter's Chelsea's wedding as a Plus One guest in 2010. And Hillary says she was unaware of any criminal activity relating to Ghislaine Maxwell, specifically before her crimes were publicly revealed a few years ago. Hillary's asked to recount the origin of the Clintown foundation, which Hillary only joined the board of in 2013 because she was busy serving in office. Hillary was asked about Glenn Maxwell leading a breakout session on ocean conservation at a Clinton Global initiative conference in 2013. Hillary said that she was not involved in the selection process for those sessions, but that Glenn Maxwell had been an internationally recognized ocean advocate around that time. Hillary refused to answer a question about whether her husband is a quote, unquote, smart guy, which was.

[Podcast Host 2]

Who asked that question?

[Garrison Davis]

I forget, but I had that note written down. Some of these things I was watching pretty, pretty late.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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What a great question. Hey, Hill, babe, is your husband a smart guy? Wow. Glad our tax dollars are funding such an important question.

[Garrison Davis]

She said that her husband had a limited relationship with Epstein for a limited time. Yes. Used his airplane for Clinton foundation trips. And this connection began and ended before any of Epstein's crimes were publicly revealed. Representative Pat Fallon with the Republican majority talked about how Jeffrey Epstein visited the White House 17 times under the Clinton administration. This is mostly for White House Historical association events and donated money to the White House Historical association, but said that Epstein never visited under Trump or donated money to Trump. This could, in fact, just be simply because the Trump admin. You know, Trump came into office after Trump's relationship with Epstein fell through and Epstein was convicted of sex crimes.

[Podcast Host 2]

Correct.

[Garrison Davis]

Trump got into office in 2016. Clinton was in office in the early 90s.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

That's why Epstein was able to visit the White House for These public events as a regular citizen, but did not do so when Trump was president.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. Prior to Epstein's, like, first conviction.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah. 2008. Yeah. Pat Fallon also tried to characterize a $20,000 donation to a joint campaign fund in the 90s as a donation to Hillary's presidential campaign fund. Many years later, he was called on this being obviously incorrect.

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Come on, man, that's so dumb.

[Garrison Davis]

There was a lot of stuff like this. A lot of small errors. Some of them may not have been errors. Right. Some of them may have been ways to make the transcript read a certain way. Ye. If Hillary or the lawyers weren't able to catch something. But both Hillary and her team, but really mostly Hillary was really on it for this entire hearing. Like, very sharp.

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This was peak Hillary. I feel like a lot of people, you know, for a lot of the, like, analysis online, I saw, you know, a take over and over again that, that was like, why wasn't she like this when she ran for president? She was. This is, this is Hillary.

[Garrison Davis]

She was. And it's, you know, it's impressive, but also a little bit unlikable. If you do that, if you do that, like, all the time. Right.

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If you're, if you're like that all the. A little bit. Oh, okay. I'm gonna take a step back now. That's a lot.

[Garrison Davis]

But, you know, yeah, we'll have, we'll have more on her sort of like, intellectual sharpness later.

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I mean, she's fiercely intelligent.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah.

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Fiercely intelligent.

[Garrison Davis]

And that is, that is, that is on display for the entirety of this deposition.

[Podcast Host 2]

But I really hated the take where people were like, if she was like this when she ran for president, maybe we wouldn't be dealing with Donald Trump now. It's like, no, you know, that's not what happened. No, this is who Hillary's been her entire adult life. Thank you.

[Garrison Davis]

Hillary said that she never solicited funds for Jeffrey Epstein, never had funds solicited on her behalf, and never invited Epstein to any political fundraisers. When asked about her own speculation on her husband, previous investigators, or the mind state of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, she could not answer because that is speculation on other people's opinions or mind states. About an hour in, Nancy Mace asked Hillary Clinton if she believes the Epstein files are, quote, unquote, a vast right wing conspiracy.

[Hillary Clinton]

I think if they are fully released as the Transparency act requires, that would be fulfilling the responsibility of the Justice Department. But it appears that there have been many issues with the full release. So I'm not going to characterize it other than to say, I think that's a well known fact.

[Garrison Davis]

It is certainly an odd question to ask if the files themselves are a vast right wing conspiracy. And Hillary here just answered by talking about the issues that have come up with the full release of the Epstein files.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

After this, Hillary is asked about whether Jeffrey Epstein was one of the most prolific sex traffickers in the world and how the State Department worked to counter international sex trafficking.

[Hillary Clinton]

Would you say he's one of the world's most prolific sex traffickers? I don't know what to compare it to. There are terrible sex trafficking rings all over the world. And you were, you said you were Secretary of State from 2009 to 2013, and you state your agency prioritized combating sex trafficking internationally, Correct? That's correct. During your time as Secretary of State State, did you or the State receive any intelligence cables or briefings mentioning Epstein's foreign travel pedophile island or his network of pedophiles and sex trafficking? Not that I am aware of, no. How did you miss it? If he's, I believe, one of the most prolific sex traffickers in the world. You were Secretary of State. How did you miss it? Well, that would have been a matter of the Justice Department, not the State Department. But in your opening statement and your statements earlier, in your opening statement, you stated that Secretary, Secretary Rubio should be called to testify. You said that he has and the administration has, quote, abandoned survivors. Using the same logic. You were Secretary of State during a time period after Jeffrey Epstein was convicted of being a pedophile and soliciting children for sex. Why then did you, quote, using your own logic, abandoned survivors? What is the question, please? I followed her comment. First of all, we focused on whether there were laws that made sex trafficking, sexual slavery, domestic violence, other abuses of women on the books in countries. And then we tried to evaluate, were those laws being implemented and were judges appropriately trained and briefed about how to implement those laws? Were governments taking them seriously? We looked at the broad institutional approach to these very serious abuses.

[Garrison Davis]

This is an interesting exchange to me.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

So Mace here doesn't really understand the role of the Justice Department versus the State Department.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yes.

[Garrison Davis]

How the Justice Department investigates crimes committed in the United States versus the State Department. Is this entity that pressures other countries to create or, you know, improve sex trafficking laws and doesn't really understand this difference.

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[Garrison Davis]

And refers to a part in Hillary's opening statement about how Rubio shrunk a specific office to combat international sex trafficking and she isn't quite able to, like, to understand how Hillary is critiquing that, while also saying that the Justice Department mishandled the Epstein investigation while she was Secretary of State. It's this interesting. Just break in, not really understanding how the government works. And this clip also shows, like, how sharp Hillary is being able to follow this line of questioning better than her own lawyers in some instances.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yes.

[Garrison Davis]

Be able to actually, like, respond to what Mace is really asking.

[Podcast Host 2]

Notice that as well.

[Garrison Davis]

Mace then continues to ask about how the US Government handled Jeffrey Epstein's first criminal case. And this is how Clinton responded.

[Hillary Clinton]

Would you say the US Government at that time, during this time period was appropriate with the way that it handled Epstein? I. I don't think that you could say that was true about any of the government's prosecutorial efforts, starting with the Southern District of Florida and Alex Acosta and all those who basically gave him a sweetheart deal. And then I think going up the chain, there was very little attention paid that should have been paid. But we had laws on the books. They were not being implemented. But that was not within my purview, because what we were looking at is what's the institutional structure and can we do more to make sure countries take it seriously? Our country had laws on the books. So this man was not held to account. It was not in your purview when you were Secretary of State. Then why is it today in Secretary Rubio's purview? Because what's happened is that the office that was actually following what was going on around the world has been decimated. 70% of the staff is gone. It's impossible to carry out the functions of that office if you don't have a critical number of people. So my question would be to Secretary Rubio. Is there more that can be done out of time here?

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Yeah.

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Nancy Mace, you suck.

[Garrison Davis]

You suck. Pretty clear articulation there from Secretary Clinton.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, I fear that, like, that Nancy Mace spent most of this time trying to set Hillary up. And I don't think she. I don't think she succeeded.

[Garrison Davis]

No. Hillary was then asked if she was, quote, unquote, concerned when she saw photos of her husband getting a back massage or in a hot tub. And what went through her mind? Hillary refused to speculate on events in which she has no context for and was not there. We're going to go on a quick ad break now and then return to continue the discussion on the Clinton testimony.

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[Garrison Davis]

All right, we're back. I want to get a little bit into the background of this hearing some more. So when the Clintons finally agreed to testify in February, one of the things they pushed for was that the testimony take the form of public hearings broadcast live. Hillary addressed Chairman Comer online saying, quote, you love to talk about transparency. There's nothing more transparent than a public hearing. Cameras on, unquote. There was a brief back and forth negotiation on whether the depositions would be open to the public. Ultimately, they were not, but they were recorded on camera and transcribed for later release.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Mm.

[Garrison Davis]

Part of the terms for this private hearing, this deposition, were that press and photographers were not allowed inside the room and that deposition materials would only be released in full through official channels after sensitive information like staffer names present at the deposition and off the record exchanges between lawyers were properly removed or redacted. At about an hour and 20 minutes into Hillary's deposition, the Clinton staff learned that one of the Republican committee members leaked a photo of Hillary to right wing influencer Benny Johnson.

[Podcast Host 2]

Crazy.

[Garrison Davis]

Who posted the picture and wrote, quote, breaking the first image of Hillary Clinton testifying under oath about Jeffrey Epstein to the Republican Oversight Committee. This is the first time Hillary has had to answer real questions about Epstein. Clinton does not look happy. Photo provided by Representative Lauren Bobert. Unquote.

[Podcast Host 2]

Honestly, there's actually nobody more unprofessional than Lauren Bobbert.

[Garrison Davis]

We'll get into her unprofessional conduct later in this hearing as well. Great. But here's a clip of the Clinton team realizing that a photo has been leaked.

[Hillary Clinton]

I have another. Photos that are being released of the secretary as she is testifying from inside this room. Can you please advise me as to whether or not that's permissible and consistent with the rules, particularly given that we have asked for a public hearing. If there are photos that are being released of the secretary she is testifying. Can you please explain how that. I'm done with this. If you guys are doing that, I am done. You can hold me in contempt from now until the cows come home. This is just typical behavior.

[Garrison Davis]

We will go off the record.

[Hillary Clinton]

Oh, for heaven. So I would like to understand how that's permissible. It doesn't matter. We all are abiding by the same rules.

[Podcast Host 1]

I, I will take that down.

[Hillary Clinton]

Yeah. I would like to take a break at this moment. I'd like to have for now, fair

[Garrison Davis]

go off the record. Pretty shocking stuff.

[Podcast Host 2]

There's no defense for that. That's, that's wild. And I would walk out as well.

[Garrison Davis]

When they went back on the Record, Chairman Comer discussed how he advised all members that no photos of the deposition were to be released and that an incident like this would not happen again. Lauren Barber later told reporters that she took the picture before a testimony actually began and that she checked with committee staff about using the photo. No follow up on that?

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, fat chance. It's embarrassing.

[Garrison Davis]

After returning from off the Record, the minority, the Democrats asked about the Justice Department illegally withholding certain files related to the investigation from public disclosure. Hillary says that this behavior by the Justice Department deserves the most thorough investigation that Congress could carry out. This will be a longer clip, about two minutes, but there's some good information inside.

[Hillary Clinton]

I think from the very beginning, the behavior of the Attorney General and her staff has demonstrated either a gross incompetence, which is bothersome because they are the keepers of information that should be evaluated for law enforcement purposes, or a clear cover up because they are protecting the President and others. Either one of those should be the focus of this committee. To try to get to the bottom, if they are incompetent and they are incapable of complying with the law that the Congress passed, we need to know that because they are falling down on the job, they have an FBI director is more interested in drinking beer in a hockey dressing room after our team won the Olympics, rather than being responsive and complying with the law as it has been promulgated. So I don't think it's unfair to say that given the sequencing of the events, starting with the way that President Trump made the release of the files a key element of his 2024 campaign, the promise that he and then his Attorney general made that the files would be released. Then a walking back of that, as they began to look at the files, an ignoring of what they had promised, including that they had a client list on the desk of the Attorney General. Reasonable people would have to assume they are engaged in a massive cover up, which is infuriating as an American, as a citizen, all of us should be, regardless of party, wondering, what are they hiding?

[Podcast Host 2]

Nothing, says, I watch sports more than calling it a hockey Dressing room dressing room. I was like Hillary up with the times.

[Garrison Davis]

Hillary goes on to mention how the prosecutor, the original Epstein case, Alex Acosta, was not asked any Questions by Republicans during his Epstein deposition. About half an hour later, Hillary and the majority go into about a three minute exchange. I think this is between Hillary and Nancy Mace about Howard Lutnick, Trump's Commerce Secretary, who's frequently named in the files, whom Hillary knew from being a New York Senator during the 911 attacks, where Lutnick lost the highest number of employees out of anyone that day. I think over 600. So Hillary was asked how she knows Letnick. Hillary tries to respond by saying how they met, which was the aftermath of 9 11. Mace claims that this is like a distraction from answering the question and that Hillary's trying to garner sympathy. Things get very heated over, over the course of these, like three minutes as they like argue about, you know, if she's actually answering the question. Mace talks about being a survivor herself and how she's trying to, you know, get the truth out of these hearings. Hillary responds by talking about how she's been very sympathetic to Mace's situation and respects the work that she's doing in the Epstein hearings, but is trying to answer the question specifically about Lutnick. It's a pretty loud and contentious three minutes. About two minutes after that, Republicans made Hillary read emails from the Epstein files.

[Hillary Clinton]

Thank you for a fun night. Your littlest girl was a little naughty.

[Committee Member or Questioner]

How does that make you feel?

[Hillary Clinton]

Makes me sick.

[Committee Member or Questioner]

If you can also read the EFTA 00878421. This is also another email. Can you just please provide the context? It's an email to Jeffrey Epstein. If you could just read the context

[Hillary Clinton]

of what it is. Of course, the oh, Jesus, Ohio Jesus, I'm coming trick and the bot, just

[Committee Member or Questioner]

the main body of the context of

[Hillary Clinton]

the email said that she felt God's presence next to her when she was in bed. She knows that Jesus watches over her and he helped save her life. Whoops.

[Committee Member or Questioner]

How does that make you feel?

[Hillary Clinton]

It's bizarre. I don't know what it means.

[Committee Member or Questioner]

The reason I asked you to read both of these is because these emails were both sent by co conspirators that were then given the plea deals and now have been given victim status. Both of these women were also named an FBI document and they're on a number of other emails.

[Podcast Host 2]

What does that have to do with Hillary?

[Garrison Davis]

Yes, that's the exact thing that I wrote down. This has no relevance to Clinton at all. This, this doesn't relate to her.

[Podcast Host 2]

They wanted sound bites of her reading weird things.

[Garrison Davis]

It's a humiliation ritual. Right? It's. Yeah, there's no reason for them to do this, that the majority just go on to ask Hillary if the DOJ should re evaluate the plea deals of these two people. Something that Hillary has no, like, expertise for. Like, that's what that she's here to testify on. On her own knowledge relating to Epstein and Maxwell. This is, this is a complete non sequitur. This doesn't relate to her in any way. It's just gross. You're just, you're just getting a woman to read the Epstein files for your own entertainment.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yes.

[Garrison Davis]

It's disgusting.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yes.

[Garrison Davis]

I have a few clips here. This is what, three. Three clips about her intellectual kind of ruthlessness and the ways that the questioners in this committee were trying to get certain answers out of her. And she was able to either correct them or navigate in. In an interesting way. I'll start with this first one at three and a half hours in.

[Podcast Host 2]

Gosh, you've watched a lot.

[Garrison Davis]

In 2014, Epstein met with William Burns, who was then a senior State Department official and later a CIA director.

[Hillary Clinton]

Excuse me, could you say what year that was again?

[Garrison Davis]

In 2014?

[Hillary Clinton]

In 2014, he met with William Burns.

[Garrison Davis]

Epstein met with William Burns as the Secretary of State at that time. Were you aware of that meeting?

[Hillary Clinton]

I wasn't Secretary of state in 2014.

[Garrison Davis]

Okay. Were you aware of the. Mr. Burns. Okay. Embarrassing stuff.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

She, she was not Secretary of State in 2014. She served from 2009 to 2013. They're asking a question about if she was informed of something while Secretary of State in 2014. She simply was not there. She was not Secretary of State. The people in this committee should know this. They should know when she actually served as Secretary of State. It's embarrassing. They continue to get, like dates wrong throughout this hearing. This, this guy who's asking this question is his representative, Eric Burlinson. He also mischaracterized Chelsea's wedding as Hillary's wedding, saying that Glenn Maxwell attended Hillary's wedding and that Glenn Maxwell vacationed with Chelsea after the wedding. This event that he's referencing, this vacation, was actually a year before the wedding in 2009. Hillary and her lawyers had to correct all of that stuff. Specifically, Erica Berlinson did not seem to know what he was talking about at all in this hearing. Just constantly got little dates and facts wrong.

[Podcast Host 2]

That gives me pause for a number of reasons, but it just makes me think about, you know, if they were actually talking to somebody that they needed to deeply press.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

That they would not get the results needed. It gives me a major pause that they have lack of confidence in this committee to do their jobs. But it's, it's just frankly embarrassing that these are elected officials and they can't even get their dates right.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah. This is an extremely serious matter. And these are, these are the people doing oversight.

[Podcast Host 2]

This is not a laughing matter. Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

They are totally incompetent. Yeah. Lauren Barber then asked a very leading question about when Hillary learned her husband was spending time with a registered sex offender.

[Podcast Host 1]

Ms. Clinton, when did you first learn that your husband was spending time extensively with a registered sex offender?

[Hillary Clinton]

He did not. After he was. He was convicted, years after Bill stopped having any.

[Podcast Host 1]

Were there any activities that raised any red flags to think that he could be charged of sex crimes during the time? Are you asking if he has awareness? Yes.

[Hillary Clinton]

Of Jeffrey Epstein, of, of any red

[Podcast Host 1]

flags being brought to your awareness, to your family's awareness while your husband was spending time with Jeffrey Epstein? Epstein.

[Hillary Clinton]

I, I have no recollection of anyone bringing any red flags to me.

[Garrison Davis]

They continued to ask about her husband. And she just had to, she just had to keep reiterating it like the committee will have a chance to question her husband tomorrow. Like they can. They could ask him about his relationship with this Epstein tomorrow. There's no use in her speculating about her husband's relationship. They can just ask him literally in less than 24 hours. But they just kept. They just kept going.

[Podcast Host 2]

Classic.

[Garrison Davis]

You know, one of the more bizarre moments, they quoted Epstein referring to Hillary being prettier in person. And this exchange is interesting because of the way it suggests the committee's interpretation of certain statements made by Epstein when I think they probably infer something to the opposite.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's bizarre. Just like weird misogyny going on.

[Podcast Host 1]

So regarding the Epstein files, there are many files where Jeffrey Epstein seems to speak as though he does know you personally. In one file, EFTA 00657115, Mr. Epstein is commenting and he quotes, hey, Hillary Clinton is much prettier in person. This was Tuesday, September 20, 2011. And then another Congressman.

[Hillary Clinton]

I'm not going to object to that. Congressman, can we see the documents? Because we don't think.

[Garrison Davis]

We don't think the documents. Not that you're not pretty.

[Podcast Host 1]

Jeffrey Epstein is all. Also commented that meetings with Hillary are not easily discreet. Has he ever connected someone to meet with you?

[Hillary Clinton]

Not that I'm aware of. Okay.

[Podcast Host 2]

That was my first time seeing that clip. That's so funny. First of all, very funny. Second of all, this is not what this is supposed to be. Why are you bringing that up? What does that have to do with anything?

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah, I mean, they're trying to establish some sort of relationship between Hillary and

[Podcast Host 2]

Epstein, clearly, but it doesn't exist.

[Garrison Davis]

And to me, these exchanges just infer that, you know, Jeffrey Epstein had seen Hillary in person before, likely at these White House Historical association events, where she sees, you know, hundreds of people who, like, walk by.

[Podcast Host 2]

Right.

[Garrison Davis]

But then Epstein himself, like, expressed that it's actually difficult to get a private meeting with her. So this. This doesn't prove that they had any actual, like, personal knowledge of each other, like, mutually. Obviously, Epstein knew who she was. She was the first lady of the United States.

[Podcast Host 2]

Absolutely ridiculous.

[Garrison Davis]

About 10 minutes later, and this is getting to the end of this hearing about, like, you know, four hours in, Hillary just kind of goes off a little bit after just being asked the same question again and again and again, and then also demonstrates, like, how much she actually knows about this committee's investigation.

[Hillary Clinton]

You have said that you have never

[Garrison Davis]

been to Mr. Epstein's island. Is that correct?

[Hillary Clinton]

You know what? I am so tired of answering that question. If you have one scintilla of evidence to the contrary, put it forward. I have never been on his island, period. I've never been in his homes, his offices, his anything. So I don't know how many times you have to say the same thing over and over and over again. And I just am struggling with the relevance of all of this. But, no, I never have been.

[Garrison Davis]

And based off that response, that would include, you've never been to Mr. Epstein's Manhattan townhome?

[Hillary Clinton]

I have not. His New Mexico ranch? No, I have not.

[Garrison Davis]

His Palm beach residence?

[Hillary Clinton]

No, I have not. Is Paris a department? Didn't know he had one. Haven't been there. You know, I also find it very interesting because I went back and looked at the transcripts of all of your other depositions, and none of the Republicans asked a single question to any witness about Jeffrey Epstein or any question that would help provide answers for his victims.

[Garrison Davis]

Hillary goes on to say that Republican Chairman Comer did ask Attorney General Barr not about Epstein, but if he was aware of Clinton involvement in the 2016 Russia collusion investigation. Again, in a deposition about the DOJ's handling of the Epstein files, completely irrelevant. Completely relevant to the. To the matter at hand. And if these people want to pretend that they actually take, you know, what happened to these victims seriously, then they would have a focused, focused effort on the actual subject, not all these wild partisan threads. And I'm now going to discuss before. Before we. Before we go and break again. About how this hearing kind of throughout it, but I've condensed this down into one section, turned towards the weird multiple times in ways that are sometimes, you know, relevant, but oftentimes not. Earlier in this hearing, Hillary stated that she had never been briefed on whether Jeffrey Epstein had foreign intelligence ties while serving in office. But that speculation that Jeffrey Epstein could have been a foreign intel asset is a, quote unquote, fruitful area of investigation. Although she was not made aware of any connection of the sort while Secretary of State, she was also asked about a passport belonging to Epstein which bore a different name.

[Committee Member or Questioner]

This is actually a passport that was given. The individual's name is Marcus Robert Fort Nelli. Do you think that this is a sign or a telltale sign of intelligence operations and pseudonyms?

[Hillary Clinton]

I can't speculate.

[Angela Yee]

I don't know.

[Garrison Davis]

Okay.

[Committee Member or Questioner]

Victims have stated to this committee, both Democrats and Republicans, that during Epstein's time during his day camp, jail is what I'll call it. He was also in active communication with Bush's CIA director. They also had stated that he had active ties to Russia, Israel and Iran. Given your status not just as the first lady, but also in your secretary position, have you ever been targeted by any of these countries as a means of a foreign intelligence gathering operation? Are you aware of potential vulnerabilities?

[Hillary Clinton]

Yeah, I was targeted by Russia in the 2016 campaign. I mean, I think that's pretty well known.

[Committee Member or Questioner]

What about Israel or Iran?

[Hillary Clinton]

I don't know about either Israel or Iran.

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[Committee Member or Questioner]

Do you believe that Epstein was running potentially honeypot operation with intelligence gathering operations to collect information on high profile individuals, both Democrat and Republican, the United States, in an effort to sway our foreign policies? Is it possible?

[Hillary Clinton]

I have no direct knowledge, but I think it's one of the areas your committee should investigate.

[Committee Member or Questioner]

Do you think it's possible?

[Hillary Clinton]

Well, it is certainly possible. It's a tried and true technique of certain intelligence agencies.

[Committee Member or Questioner]

Do you believe that he was using honey pots in effort to.

[Hillary Clinton]

I can't speculate. I don't know.

[Podcast Host 2]

This is such a weird use of their time.

[Garrison Davis]

Later, she said that she had no reason to believe that personally she was the subject of an intel gathering operation relating to Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn Maxwell. And then right after she was asked if she was ever denied access to information about UAPs, that's unidentified aerial Phenomenon. Hillary said that she was never denied access because she never asked for access. And when questioned, she said that she believes the American public deserves access to such topics subject to national security implications. This bizarre, off topic line of questioning Continued nearly an hour later into the hearing. So I'm going to begin with some light hearted different questions and you're welcome to ignore them or if you want to, but while I have you here, I just have to ask. So when you're. When your husband was president, that is Lawrence Rockefeller had an effort to try to disclose UFOs UAPs. When you were running for President, John Podesta publicly stated that you would disclose these files if given the chance, if you had been President. Are you pleased to see that these files may be disclosed finally?

[Hillary Clinton]

I am pleased. As I say, I think they have to be carefully scrutinized so that no national security information is disclosed disclose. But this is an issue of real importance to so many people and I think whatever can be disclosed should be disclosed.

[Garrison Davis]

Was there a program that specifically that that was referencing that you were aware of?

[Hillary Clinton]

I was not. As you mentioned, John Podesta, who was one of my advisors, was deeply interested in the issue and, and if I had been elected I certainly would have listened to his advice.

[Garrison Davis]

Thank you for indulgence on that. Very odd, completely off topic, no relevance to the actual subject of inquiry. A few minutes later Hillary asked a clarifying question about why UFOs were brought up.

[Hillary Clinton]

This is sort of like off subject, but didn't you all require in the latest defense authorization that the UFO information has to be. What?

[Committee Member or Questioner]

They ripped it out. They killed it.

[Hillary Clinton]

Oh, I thought that had gone through.

[Garrison Davis]

That was my amendment and it got ripped out.

[Hillary Clinton]

Oh, okay.

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[Committee Member or Questioner]

Yeah, they've been killing it.

[Garrison Davis]

So if alien disclosure questions weren't bad enough and you know, disrespectful to victims of Epstein and sex trafficking, it did get worse.

[Podcast Host 2]

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[Garrison Davis]

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[Garrison Davis]

All right, we're back. At nearly the four hour mark into Hillary Clinton's deposition, Lauren Boverted started asking about conspiracy theories.

[Podcast Host 1]

In past public statements, as in 2017 speeches and interviews, you described Pizza Gate as a baseless conspiracy theory, alleging you and others ran a child sex trafficking ring from a Washington pizzeria. Pizzeria Basement. Have you reviewed any 2025, 2026 Epstein files that were released that you believe, reference or relate to those specific 2016 claims regarding the Podesta emails? Comet ping pong pizza used as code? Possibly.

[Garrison Davis]

I'm sorry, you're asking her about whether

[Hillary Clinton]

she's reviewed emails in the Epstein files which relate to the wacky Pizzagate scam?

[Podcast Host 1]

You could characterize it however you want. I just would like to know if she's familiar with any of them, so.

[Hillary Clinton]

Excuse me. Your question is about whether or not she has reviewed any emails in the Epstein release files about Pizzagate?

[Podcast Host 1]

Correct.

[Hillary Clinton]

Pizzagate was totally made up. It was an outrageous allegation that ended up hurting a number of people that caused a deranged young man to show up with his assault rifle and shoot up a local pizzeria? I can't believe you're even referencing it. You should be there.

[Podcast Host 1]

There are connections to the. The language.

[Hillary Clinton]

Well, the QAnon people believe there are, so I don't know what people believe. Have at it.

[Garrison Davis]

Completely unhinged.

[Podcast Host 2]

Why are we doing this? I have complete lack of faith in this committee. This is offensive to survivors of Epstein. And this is getting us no relevant information to the Epstein probe, as they call it. This is ridiculous. This is inflammatory. I mean, I expect nothing less from Lohan and Bobbert, but, you know, it's just. It's insane and embarrassing.

[Garrison Davis]

It's insane. And like, there has been a resurgence of, you know, Pizzagate related conspiracy theories, people talking about Pizzagate since the files have been released. Since people can create their own patterns. Right. By selectively honing in on words or symbols which allow them to overlook what's right in front of their nose. Right. All of the very clear connections laid out in the Epstein files, those can be ignored.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yes.

[Garrison Davis]

And instead you focus on these, like, coded messages hidden everywhere, hidden in the backgrounds of videos. People carrying pizza boxes into the Clinton deposition, all this kind of stuff. And it allows them to miss the very. The very clear things that are actually outlined in the files. It is, you know, one of the negative side effects of, you know, of files like this being released is that it allows a lot of points of interest to be honed in on by people charting wildly conspiratorial matrices.

[Podcast Host 2]

I just don't even know how somebody like Lauren Bobbert's on a committee like this or an elected official or, you know, employed, frankly.

[Garrison Davis]

Hillary went on to say, I expected a lot of interesting questions today, but Pizzagate was not on the list. Lauren Bobert replied, that's okay. We're asking all sorts of things here.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay.

[Garrison Davis]

A few minutes later, Bobert returned with even more Pizzagate questions. And things escalated to the point where they had to go off the record.

[Podcast Host 2]

Good Lord.

[Podcast Host 1]

Are you aware of any files that were on Anthony Weiner's laptop in a folder that was titled in insurance, Life insurance, with a zip file titled fraud?

[Hillary Clinton]

Chairman's ruling.

[Garrison Davis]

This is way outside.

[Hillary Clinton]

Is this within the scope, Mr. Chairman?

[Podcast Host 1]

Chairman rules that it's not. When the scope.

[Hillary Clinton]

Based on what you said in the public hearing. Is this within the scope?

[Garrison Davis]

We can go off to record For

[Hillary Clinton]

a moment, Mr. Chairman, is this within the scope?

[Garrison Davis]

So you couldn't quite make out what Bovert was referencing there. She was talking about the frazzle drip conspiracy theory that alleged Anthony Weiner possessed a video of Hillary Clinton conducting a satanic ritual murder of a child, cutting off this child's face to wear as a mask to fill the child's blood with adrenochrome to be harvested. This is like a 20. A 2018 conspiracy theory. One of one of the more like, like, graphic and gross aspects of QAnon. And here Robert is just openly asking Hillary Clinton about frazzledrip by name. Completely inappropriate. Has no bearing on the investigation. It's an insult to actual victims of child sex trafficking. So this whole conspiratorial angle of the Hillary Clinton deposition made up a significant chunk. Another chunk that made up a significant portion of time is just Clinton kind of advising and the committee members, both on the Republican and Democrat side, like, asking for her advice on how to conduct their own investigation. She advised that they should follow Senator Wyden's compiled Treasury data on Epstein's financial transactions and that that data should be subpoenaed from the Treasury Department. She was asked about how they could determine if Jeffrey Epstein was a spy. Hillary advised them to send document requests to subpoena the CIA, the Department of National Intelligence, counterintelligence departments in the doj, saying to, quote, unquote, cast a wide net. She suggested cooperating with UK investigations into former Prince Andrew and trying to see if Israel will cooperate in sharing information regarding the investigation. Finally, Hillary suggested to Chairman James Comer that he should advise on how laws could be changed to prevent future abuse based on the committee's knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein's manipulation techniques and mode of operation. But there was, like, significant chunk of at least, like, you know, 30 minutes where she was essentially being asked or advising the committee on how to do their own job, just due to the sheer incompetence that has Been displayed in the clips that I've selected here.

[Podcast Host 2]

Wow. I don't really have anything else to say besides that. It's just, like, pathetic.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah. I mean, and most of the interesting stuff is in the Hillary. Hillary Clinton one.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

A bill was deposed the next day, but for some of the, like, logistics regarding this hearing, a source told the New York Post, so take that as you will, sure. That the Clinton team demanded specific, quote, unquote, beauty, lighting and camera positions relatable, I fear, to get the most flattering angle of Hillary's face, and brought white tablecloths to bounce the overhead lighting onto the bottom of her face to minimize shadows.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Garrison Davis]

Pictures of the whole room also showed that the Clinton team was the only ones with these, like, nice orange upholstered chairs. The rest of the chairs were just like, regular black folding chairs. The New York Post contains this little tidbit that the customized blue paneled backdrop was developed by a local specialized vendor within about seven hours after Clinton's team concluded it did not like the vibe of the original black curtains in the background, unquote. So they, like, went in, saw this, you know, white table with. With. With black curtains. They thought it looked too much like a criminal interrogation or, or like a, quote, unquote, hostage situation is what's quoted in the Post article, as opposed to, like an official congressional deposition, you know, like an official government venue. So they got like, a local carpenter to make this blue paneled backdrop in, like, a few hours to put behind Hillary. And that's just an interesting insight into, like, the thought process of, of the Clinton team regarding the optics of this hearing shop local. So let's. Let's briefly go through some of the sections on. On Bill. Bill started by saying that they should not have questioned Hillary, quote, but I do think you should be talking to me. You should have called me. I did take those plane trips with him. You have a right to ask those questions, unquote. He said that, quote, I'll be honest with you. I'll be 88 years old if I lived my next birthday. I don't remember everything that happened 24 years ago, but I do remember some things. And I'll tell you what I remember the best that I can, unquote. When asked when he first met Jeffrey Epstein, Bill referred to a photo of him shaking Epstein's hand in 1993 at a White House Historical association event. But Bill said that he doesn't remember that. But this photo does exist. He shook a lot of people's hands, does not remember everyone. He Meets. He first remembers meeting Jeffrey Epstein for a Clinton foundation plane trip in 2002. He said he was connected with Epstein through someone named Larry Summers, who told Bill that Jeffrey Epstein made a large donation, about $10 million to Brain Research and was a, quote, unquote, information hungry person. Summers said that Epstein wanted to talk with Bill about economics and politics and offered to take Bill, his staff, and his Secret Service detail on Clinton foundation trips for global humanitarian aid. So Bill saw this as a way to drive the price down for these trips. He took the last one of these flights in 2003. When asked why this relationship ended, Bill said that the AIDS program, it was a humanitarian aid program to help with aids, but that this AIDS program, you know, took off, and more people that Bill knew better offered to help, and Jeffrey did not seem as interested in the AIDS program, so they kind of just naturally drifted apart. Bill characterized the relationship as friendly, but didn't know him well enough to be considered a friend. And so that he never talked about, witness, or participated in anything sexual relating to Jeffrey Epstein and young women and girls. Bill said he learned of Epstein's crimes in 2008. Bill said he had no indication Epstein was trafficking women. Quote, there's nothing that I saw when I was around him that made me realize he was trafficking women, unquote. Bill is asked about if he communicated with a long list of people regarding Epstein. This was kind of a weirdly framed question. It was, have you communicated with any of these people about Jeffrey Epstein? Bill had a hard time kind of understanding the nature of this question. It is kind of oddly phrased. Hillary was asked the same one. Yeah, they just read a list of names. Bill recounted if he knew the person or not. And lawyers had to specify, like, oh, no, they're asking if you communicated with them about Epstein, not. Not if you knew them. So it kind of got some confusing responses.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay.

[Garrison Davis]

Interestingly, both Hillary and Bill laughed at the mention of Noam Chomsky. Bill said that he never communicated with Chomsky, and that Chomsky, quote, wasn't a big fan of mine. He thought I was too conservative.

[Podcast Host 2]

Fuck off, gnome. Fuck off, gnome.

[Garrison Davis]

It's crazy. Bill did testify that he thought that someone relating to law enforcement would ask him about Epstein in 2008 when the news about Epstein's crimes came out. Considering that Epstein let Bill use the plane, but no one ever did. He said he never suspected Intel Agency connections with Epstein and was at the time unaware of Epstein's visits to the White House while Bill was president and has only since been informed of this in preparation for this testimony.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay.

[Garrison Davis]

Bill was asked about a New York Times article claiming to expound on Bill and Epstein's relationship in the 90s. Characterized as chummy, which Bill denies. He said that he didn't even know Epstein really during this time, even though they may have been at the same events. He was asked about being asked to write a personal note to Jeffrey Epstein's mother. Bill said that he never met Jeffrey Epstein's mother and that he wrote a lot of notes to a lot of people that he did not know. He was unsure of who asked him to write this note. He was also asked about this passport appearing to belong to Epstein bearing a different name, with the questioner asserting that they believe Jeffrey Epstein was an intelligence operative running a honey pot against the President. When later asked if he believes that he was targeted, Bill says that it's possible. The lawyers object to this based on speculation, but Bill says he doesn't know if he was targeted, but would be surprised. Refers to Jeffrey Epstein as a, quote, unquote, vacuum cleaner of information, but was not overtly manipulative early on, saying that Epstein mostly asked about derivatives trading and stock market regulation. Bill was asked if he ever had contact with someone named Shantae Davies, who was a, quote, unquote, flight attendant on Epstein's plane. Bill confirms that he did and confirmed that a neck rub took place once with Shantae Davies, but denied he ever went to the island.

[Podcast Host 2]

I don't know. Something about neck rub and Bill Clinton just makes my stomach hurt.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah. He later says that he was unaware of the abuse happening to Shantae Davies and says that he, quote, wish Shantae had told me I liked her, but said that he did not think there was anything unusual. He said that massages on rich people's planes and boats weren't uncommon. Was never aware of anyone under the age of 18 on these flights. And if there were, that would have made him uncomfortable. He specified that Secret Service was with him for every single trip. He, quote, never signed off Secret Service protection. He talked about specifically this. This neck rub incident, saying that he had a sore neck during one of the legs of these Clinton foundation aid trips and received a massage this one time. That's what he claimed. He was asked about the note in Jeffrey Epstein's 50th birthday book. Bill said that his own staff asked him to write a letter for the book, specifying that he sends out hundreds of birthday letters every year to friends or people he's only met a few times a Regular occurrence. He's asked to read a section of the letter that people had a hard time transcribing. Exactly. Which makes a reference to Epstein having made errors in his life. And he was asked whether this errors referred to sex crimes. Bill said, no. In the life of someone 50 years old, they're going to make mistakes. It was a throwaway line in one section of this very short letter. I don't think it's super relevant. Now around this time when they're reading from this letter is where there's this viral clip of Bill pulling back a copy of a photo from his lawyers, like, while smiling. This is circulated a lot. It looks like he's no, like, recounting, like, good memories or something. The piece of paper he's pulling back is actually just a copy of a New York Times article. It's not a picture of him and Epstein. It's not a picture of memories. There may be a small photo framed in the picture included in this New York Times article that's being passed around, but it's not like he's like, flipping through, like, a yearbook of, like, good moments with friends and, like, you know, happily recounting. I think this. This little clip's been decontextualized.

[Podcast Host 2]

I agree.

[Garrison Davis]

I'm not. Not trying to defend Bill Clinton here.

[Podcast Host 2]

No.

[Garrison Davis]

But I think context for what's actually happening in this hearing. And his lawyers are passing around a copy of a New York Times article which he's being questioned about, and that's the context for that clip.

[Podcast Host 2]

And, like, this clip went pretty viral. And so I was talking about it actually with my mom, and my. My mom's first reaction held some weight with me. She was like, that's just Bill Clinton's face.

[Garrison Davis]

He's kind of this happy, goofy guy.

[Podcast Host 2]

Like, he's generally like a smiley guy. And, you know, I think that makes sense contextually here. Again, not defending Bill Clinton.

[Garrison Davis]

But, yeah, I do want to play one clip about Trump. Bill was asked if the committee should talk to Donald Trump, since it's a name appears more frequently in the files than almost any other person. Bill says that's up to the committee and mentions an instance where he talked with Trump about Epstein on a golf course for a charity tournament around 2002-2003. And they talked about Epstein because Trump somehow knew that Bill had flown on the plane. But besides this incident, he had no other conversations with Trump about Epstein or Maxwell.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

The day I was there, he would typically, Donald Trump would come out and play a few holes with us and he somehow knew I had flown in Jeffrey Epstein's aircraft. And he said, you know, we had some great times together over the years, but we fell out, all because of a real estate deal. And he said, I'm sorry it happened. That's all.

[Garrison Davis]

Do you recall whether President Trump was the first one to affirmatively bring up the subject of Jeffrey Epstein?

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

No, but I'd be shocked if I did. I just don't do that.

[Garrison Davis]

Do you recall whether President Trump elaborated at all on the great times that he had with Jeffrey Epstein?

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

No, And I took. At the time, I took. No, I didn't put any, you know, sexual stint on it.

[Garrison Davis]

And as far as you recall, President Trump characterized the nature of the ending of their friendship as being solely due to the real estate.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

What he said.

[Garrison Davis]

Interestingly here, Bill recounts that Trump's reason for breaking with Epstein was due to a real estate deal, not the poaching of employees at Mar a Lago as alternatively reported.

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[Garrison Davis]

The minority, the Democrats referred to statements from three Jeffrey Epstein victims. In statements including Bill, in some way starting with someone named Maria Farmer, an Epstein employee who first reported abuse the NYPD and FBI in 1996. She claimed that she had knowledge that Bill visited Epstein's house multiple times. Bill denies this. Someone named Virginia Roberts Duffet remarked that she had knowledge that Bill was at Epstein's island. Bill responded by saying that ultimately this person, quote, unquote, reached a different conclusion and denied a claim that he flew in a helicopter with Glenn Maxwell to the island. The committee member reference a diary entry as the piece of information asserting that Bill was on the island. Bill's lawyers asked about the dates for this entry so they could determine whether Bill was in a different part of the world around this time. But this gets moved on pretty quick. They briefly bring up this picture of Bill in a hot tub in Brunei. He says that he was staying at a hotel during one of these AIDS trips and briefly went to a hot tub. Other people were present from this trip. Secret Service. He was asked about a bizarre painting of Bill Clinton wearing Monica Lewinsky's blue dress found in Jeffrey Epstein's apartment. Bill said he'd never seen it before, was asked to speculate why this painting was made. Lawyers said that the committee can ask the artist. Lauren Bobart goes on a very poor line of questioning regarding a conversation transcript between two people. And this line of questioning requires deposition to go off the record to figure out what exactly she's talking about. Bill eventually responds to a question stating that he never felt that he owed Jeffrey Epstein any favors and never participated in any quote, unquote island orgies since he never traveled to the U.S. virgin Islands with Jeffrey Epstein. About two hours in, Bill Clinton is asked if he thinks Jeffrey Epstein killed himself, something they never asked.

[Podcast Host 1]

Hillary, I would just like to ask you personally and directly, do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself?

[Hillary Clinton]

Are you asking him to speculate on how Mr. Epstein died?

[Podcast Host 1]

I'm asking what the President thinks.

[Hillary Clinton]

So you're asking his opinion?

[Podcast Host 1]

Mr. President, was your, was your friend Jeffrey Epstein?

[Hillary Clinton]

Are you classifying him as a friend who. He has testified that he was friendly.

[Podcast Host 1]

He said he was a friend in a letter.

[Hillary Clinton]

He said he was friendly, but not. You've asked for his testimony.

[Podcast Host 1]

Mr. President, do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein was suicidal? Do you know was he ever suicidal?

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

I don't know. I only know what the medical finding was. I think maybe he finally got caught and I don't know. I've. I've accepted it in my own mind. I don't know what happened.

[Podcast Host 1]

Mr. President, what did you accept? That he killed himself or that he did?

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Not that he did, but I don't know.

[Committee Member or Questioner]

Yes, sir.

[Podcast Host 1]

Thank you.

[Angela Yee]

Neither do you.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

We don't. None of us know. We weren't there.

[Podcast Host 1]

Mr. President, it's been an honor. Thank you.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Thank you.

[Podcast Host 2]

Why would you ask him that? That makes no sense.

[Garrison Davis]

I mean, again, this is Lauren Bober, the same person asking about Pizzagate. He's. She's trying to, yeah. Dunk in as many of these conspiracy theory questions as she can because that's, that's like who she is. Right? She has. She, she is a conspiracy theorist herself. She may not characterize it that way, but she's trying to, you know, go. Go off a checklist of like epic owns against the evil child eating Clintons. A few other, few other small notes that I think are interesting. Bill was asked about emails being sent to Ghislaine Maxwell by one of his assistants. And Bill says that he never sent these emails and he's only ever sent two emails in his life, which I

[Podcast Host 2]

do believe I can too. It's so crazy. Oh, Bill. Wow.

[Garrison Davis]

Bill was asked about a statement that Epstein made saying that Bill, quote, unquote, likes them young. Bill's lawyers ask, you know, if Bill's being asked to speculate on Jeffrey Epstein's mind. Bill says that this isn't true, that he, quote, unquote likes them young and never went to the island again. Mace later asks if it's unusual for a quote unquote sitting president to receive a massage Bill's lawyers had to argue back and forth because Bill was not a sitting president during the time where this neck massage incident occurred. Bill's once again asked if he was the target of an intel operation. He says, I doubt it. There was then an extended argument between Mace and lawyers in reference to Daily Beast reporting on a statement Bill made after Jeffrey Epstein's 2019 arrest, mischaracterizing two instances where Jeffrey Epstein visited the Clinton office and Bill once visited Jeffrey Epstein's New York apartment, which he later remarked Jeffrey Epstein was not even present for Nancy. Mace kept asking if Bill lied about only meeting Jeffrey Epstein at these two times based on the phrasing of the Daily Beast article. But the full statement that the Daily Beast was quoting from also lists the four plane trips, which contained a total of 17 stops. The Beast article just mischaracterized this as only being two incidents and Mace was referring to the article, not the actual original statement. This resulted in a pretty extensive argument. This leads us to the final clip that I'll play, which I think is kind of the only interesting question across the nine hours of testimony. The only question I think is actually kind of interesting and worthwhile and it's not actually followed up on in any substantial way. Nancy Mace asks why the Clintons still associated with Glenn Maxwell after Jeffrey Epstein's first conviction, knowing that Maxwell was one of Epstein's closest associates.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

First of all, When the wedding occurred, She was with Ted White, and she was for several more years. We did not know when Epstein was arrested that she was still involved with him. I think that clears a lot of this up. We didn't know and I don't want all of you to get. We're all getting in a ladder. There's a logical explanation. We didn't know, and I'm sorry for what she did and what she allowed her life to become. And now she's living with.

[Garrison Davis]

They do not follow up on this at all. The fact that the Clintons, knowing that Maxwell was like Epstein's number two guy, spent a decent amount of time with on these four play in trips in 2002-2003 on these humanitarian aid, Clinton foundation trips, you know, a lot of time with Ghislaine and Epstein. The committee did not follow up on why they continued to associate, even loosely, like very loosely with Ghislaine after the 2008 conviction. Yeah, that's a pretty reasonable question to have. And it just doesn't even get focused on very much. Instead, they start talking about this report from an Epstein victim About Bill Clinton allegedly walking into the offices of Vanity Fair and threatening them to not write sex trafficking articles about Jeffrey Epstein, something that Bill obviously denies. And there would be other witnesses for this event, but like this, this question about the Clintons extended relationship with Glenn Maxwell after the first conviction is one of like the very last questions asked. It takes them nine hours to get there. Yeah. They don't even follow up on it. And it just kind of ends very, very flaccid.

[Podcast Host 2]

I'm sorry to the survivors. Like you're not getting any kind of justice. This committee is incompetent, embarrassing and repugnant.

[Garrison Davis]

Yeah. And that kind of sums up the hearing. All of the hearings, they were incompetent, embarrassing and repugnant. Really spending more time on, on weird conspiracy theories than asking like new questions on Pizzagate. Yeah, because like they asked Hillary and Bill basically the same two questions over and over again, getting the same answers, wasting hours and hours of time. The only new questions they asked are these insane conspiracy ones. It's, it's embarrassing. It does not hold any relevance to the investigation. And it's nine hours of my life I'll never get back.

[Hillary Clinton]

Yep.

[Garrison Davis]

Well, that does it for us here at It Could Happen here. We'll keep following some of these, some of these hearings and depositions as this continues. I know there was new FBI documents about witness statements regarding President Trump released as I was writing this, like last night. We'll probably be talking about those in executive disorder and later on throughout our coverage. Bye.

[Podcast Host 2]

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