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Take Your Ass to Cracker Barrel

I've Had It

Thu Aug 07 2025

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Podcast Summary: "Take Your Ass to Cracker Barrel"

I've Had It Episode Released on August 7, 2025
Hosts: Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Special Guest: Sammy Sage

Introduction: Setting the Tone

In the episode titled "Take Your Ass to Cracker Barrel," hosts Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan dive deep into their frustrations with various aspects of contemporary American culture. From road rage to the complexities of multiculturalism, the duo doesn't hold back in expressing their disdain for behaviors and societal norms they find problematic.

Road Rage and Trumpism

Angie Hbic kicks off the conversation by discussing a common pet peeve: slow drivers in the fast lane.

"I hate it when you're driving on the highway and somebody is driving slow in the fast lane... I start creating a narrative about that person. Like this person is so stupid... that tells me they're a Trumper." [00:18]

Jennifer Welch relates by highlighting the machismo tied to American driving culture and its broader societal implications. She criticizes the association of slow drivers with Alpha male posturing.

"It’s just like an easy place to deposit all of the grievances just to blame on... MAGA." [01:35]

Critique of White Evangelical Culture

The hosts delve into the stereotypical behaviors exhibited by some white evangelicals, particularly those who support Trump. Jennifer laments the lack of genuine culture among certain white communities, reduced to stereotypes like big trucks and Bible studies.

"There is no culture in white America except for dumpling truck life, church visits and Bible studies..." [03:38]

Angie amplifies this by criticizing the overcompensation seen in male behaviors, linking it to broader issues of masculinity and societal expectations.

"They’re all about money and nationalism... make America great again." [03:42]

Multiculturalism vs. Monoculture

A significant portion of the episode contrasts the richness of multicultural environments with what the hosts perceive as the cultural void in predominantly white communities. Jennifer expresses her preference for diverse social circles, finding them more engaging and substantive compared to homogenous groups.

"When I go out with my gay friends, when I go out with my black girlfriends... there's just a lot more meat on the bones." [08:15]

Guest Segment: Sammy Sage on Digital Accountability and Social Media

The episode introduces Sammy Sage, founder of Betches Media, who discusses the impact of digital platforms on personal reputations and accountability. They explore the controversial app "T T," designed for women to anonymously review men based on dating experiences. Sammy acknowledges its potential to empower women but warns of its misuse and the ethical dilemmas it presents.

"If everybody did it in good faith, I think it's a great app... but I do see that it could be taken too far." [19:55]

Israel-Palestine Conflict and Anti-Semitism

A substantial segment focuses on the Israel-Palestine conflict. Jennifer raises concerns about the American political landscape's strong support for Israel, questioning why this issue often takes precedence over domestic concerns like healthcare and racial justice.

"Why should the American taxpayer care so much about Israel?... What a gift, what a privilege it would be to have all of these politicians create a safe space for black Americans." [56:00]

Sammy Sage provides a nuanced perspective, emphasizing that the conflict has been politicized and that leaders like Benjamin Netanyahu exploit such situations for personal gain. She calls for empathy and understanding, urging listeners to differentiate between government actions and the people they intend to protect.

"There are so many people who do confuse or purposely confound Israel and what the Israeli government is doing as with just all Jews, as being representative of all Jews." [68:44]

Empathy and Human Rights

Throughout the discussion, the theme of empathy emerges strongly. Both hosts and their guest advocate for a compassionate approach towards all affected by conflicts and societal issues, whether it be anti-Semitism, racial injustice, or personal safety.

"Compassion, empathy, human rights, social justice... I think it's so important to make the distinction between the government of Israel and the people." [83:14]

Conclusion: Advocating for Understanding

As the episode wraps up, Jennifer and Angie reinforce the importance of open dialogues and credible messengers like Sammy Sage to bridge understanding gaps. They highlight the necessity of combating stereotypes and fostering empathy to address complex societal and global issues effectively.

Notable Quotes:

Angie Hbic: "I have gotten so much feedback regarding the book that because of my situation with the religion and addiction and all that, that people relate to that." [31:05]
Jennifer Welch: "We need to find our aligned and common humanity in this." [81:00]
Sammy Sage: "If everyone centers their efforts around compassion, around understanding, that will be effective." [78:20]

Final Thoughts

This episode of I've Had It serves as a candid exploration of the hosts' grievances with certain cultural and political dynamics in America. By inviting Sammy Sage, the discussion gains depth, particularly on issues of digital accountability and the Israel-Palestine conflict. The episode underscores the importance of empathy, diversity, and informed discourse in navigating the complexities of modern society.

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Transcript

Jennifer Welch (0:03)

So are we supposed to start the podcast?

Angie Hbic (0:07)

Ready, one, two, three.

Jennifer Welch (0:09)

Patriots. Gay Trots. They Trio. Black Trio, Brown Trio. Welcome to America's top DEI podcast. Pumps. What have you had it with?

Angie Hbic (0:18)

Okay, what I've had it with, and I know I've talked about this before, but I hate it when you're driving on the highway and somebody is driving slow in, in the fast lane. Because it's not only annoying because you're just treading water, you can't get behind the slow person because the fast person won't move, vice versa. So you're just, you're suspended in time, I feel like. And then I personally take it a step further and I start creating a narrative about that person. Like this person is so stupid. They don't know they. That you're supposed to drive fast and just pass in the fast lane unless you're going to drive fast. That tells me they're a Trumper. And I know they're a Trumper because they're stupid. And then I get mad like, I cannot believe that person. Then I see that they have a kid in the car and I'm like, they're generationally perpetual perpetuating Trumpism. And this is all because they're going in the slow lane. But I take it, I mean, they're going slow in the fast lane, but I take it to a whole nother level that my blood is boiling because I just immediately. Now, anybody that does something that's idiotic or stupid or a lack of self awareness, they immediately go into my Trump MAGA pile. And then I get enraged.

Jennifer Welch (1:35)

I think that's so relatable. And it's such an easy, like right now, it's just like an easy place to deposit all of the grievances just to blame on. Just put it all in maga. But you know, this whole thing about like driving in the fast lane, that's an American thing, right? You go to other countries and they only use the fast lane for passes missing. And everybody's over in the right. And I've noticed that the people that do the slow driving in the fast lane, with the exception of elderly people, which I kind of give a pass on, I do too, is, you'll see it's a guy like in a Ford F150. Yes. And they're wanting, they're wanting the road rage incident because you, you'll, you know, you be behind him, you get, you know, 24 inches away from their bumper and they start slowing down. Then you finally get around him and they're like, you know, with their hat. And it's just, I don't know what it is, this American machismo. I think we just have a culture that has a lot of beta males in it and where we don't want the beta males to fill their level of beta, we've told them they're alpha and capitalism has offered them things that they can purchase to make them feel like they are big boys, like big trucks, big tires, nut sacks for the trucks, little Eagle shirts, Maga coated merch stuff. And then we've offered, you know, a president that makes them feel like they're badass when really that just all of those things just show how beta they are because all they do is follow what the, the beta herd is doing.

Jennifer Welch (3:47)

That have the nerve and the audacity to walk into a Mexican restaurant, a Chinese restaurant, an Indian restaurant, go to perhaps their gay hairdresser, white women that may use a gay makeup artist. I really genuinely believe that if you vote, if you triple trumped then you are all about preserving the lack of culture in white America that has led us to where people go and Bible thump with their AR15s. Like that's the only thing that I see when you get all white people together in the United States there's no culture at all. So they have to go borrow culture from people. Even the word woke they've borrowed from black culture. They. I went to a Mexican restaurant with my parents, my son, my husband over the weekend and there's just all these MAGA looking people in there. And I thought you've got, got a lot of nerve coming in here, coming into this Mexican restaurant where every single waiter, obviously English was their second language, served with a smile. They run a great little local business and Oklahoma City is a better place because of these hard working immigrants that come in here. But I cannot imagine the horror they feel when they are driving to and from work when they might have a hearing on their status, legal status. I can't imagine the people who've already been taken from their lives. And to see these fat ass pink arm, teeny weeny beta pricks with their ugly ass wives walk into this Mexican restaurant and sit down and smile and be friendly. I don't think you should be able to enjoy anything but Cracker Barrel. Get your fat asses over to Cracker Barrel. Quit watching NBA basketball. Quit watching sports that are dominated by African Americans. Quit going to Mexican restaurants. You want white culture? You go fucking live in it. You live in it, bathe in it. Go to do all the white culture stuff, get your bible thump on, go get in the dunk tank at the mega church after you watch your mega preacher drive off in his Rolls Royce and then go you to the shooting range and go shoot shit. But do not participate in any of the shit that makes America cool. And what makes America cool is multiculturalism. And if you want to triple trump and you want to browbeat DEI and you want to browbeat gay people and you want to browbeat black people as you've been doing for 400 years, and you want to browbeat this generation of immigrants that come over here and open up businesses, earnestly pay their taxes, you want to demonize them and call them rapists and felons, felons and all this when the felon is the teeny weeny mushroom piece of cankles mctaco tits at the top of the ticket. I have had it from top to bottom white people that triple trump should be banned, boycotted from enjoying the best thing that America has to offer, which is multiculturalism. Get your fat asses out of the Mexican restaurant, get your fat asses over to Cracker Barrel because nobody wants to see your fucking smug ass, teeny weeny pink arm, big gut around. Nobody wants to see that shit. No one, I completely agree had it.

Jennifer Welch (8:17)

Yeah. You know, like, if your whole thing is you're going to service these men, then you know they know better. And you're going to throw other people's kids under the bus just because of the color of their skin. And you think watching Candace Owens makes you a little bit less racist. Fuck you. And I just, I just, I cannot stomach what this horrible white culture is doing to the best parts of America right now. It is just unfathomable. And how smug they are and how hateful they are and just how God awful the architecture is in the churches that they frequent explains a lot to me. And I know I always go back to that. But there is no culture in white America except for dumpling truck life, church visits and Bible studies, combined with going to the shooting range and then watching Fox News and being a piece of shit, that that's what American culture has come to in white America. I personally my life, when I'm around a bunch of just white women at a lunch, I avoid those things like the plague because it bores me to tears. There's no substance. Nobody talks about anything interesting. It's demeaning people, it's gossiping behind people's back. And I just am not that interest in that. I'm not that interested in that. But when I go out with my gay friends, when I go out with my black girlfriends that I've met through my son's basketball, there's just a lot more meat on the bones. White people are dreadfully boring. And what has saved us from the lack of culture in America is our multiculturalism. And I enjoy very much experiencing black culture, Latino culture, Asian culture as an American. I enjoy those cultures very much because they've integrated into our culture and because white America, especially for me, an atheist raised in the Bible Belt, with all these women that just their life goal was just to get married. I mean, no offense if that's what you want to do, but that wasn't the life for me. That's not what I wanted. I wanted to have a career. I want to have my own thoughts, I want to have my own agency. I want to have my own autonomy. And I've always wanted that. So I'VE always been an outlier in this place. So I have found the comfort and in the people who the patriarchy has also tried to shoot down. And that's where the best meat on the bones is in America. That's where the best of the best is. The crusty country club lunches. Have at them. The, the book clubs with white women and the Bible studies. Have at it. Do your thing. Don't go to gay hairdressers. No gay floors for you. No Mexican restaurants. Get your fucking ass to Supercuts and over to Cracker Barrel and you leave the. Of all the culture that all of this multiculturalism is built to those of us that aren't racist pieces of.

Jennifer Welch (45:59)

So what I want to jump into right now is, as you. You spoke about, like, Jewish people are not a monolith. And you see protests some in Israel where people are, you know, not in our name, and they don't want this war to go on. But you see that this Netanyahu has really. The only bipartisan stuff that I see in the United States Senate Congress right now is support of Israel. And I see how beholden the politicians that I want to have moral clarity, like a Cory Booker or Hakeem Jeffries, how they don't fucking have it. So everything that comes out of their mouth, Sammy, everything I just think is bullshit. I think when Cory Booker goes off about immigrant children getting deported, but he votes to fund to send bombs to Israel to a maniac, Benjamin Netanyahu, I just think it's so morally depraved. But again, it's a really difficult thing to tiptoe and walk in because everybody feels like they're on eggshells that your Jewish friends are going to say you're anti Semitic. It's like, I'm not. I, I, I know how daunting it must have been to grow up with the trauma of the Holocaust. I've been to Dachau, I've studied this. When I just went, I was in London and I saw Cabare. The guy took off his jacket and it showed that he had a swastika on his arm still to this day. And I'm not Jewish. I was like, oh, like just seeing the swastika just made me go. But then I think this, Sammy, I think how are the people that this happened to? How are these people doing this to Palestinians? And everybody dicks over the Palestinians. I was researching it and it's like Arab countries dick them over. Israel dicks them over, the United States dicks them over. Nobody fights for the Palestinians ends. And that's who I want to fight for. This progressive atheist woman. I want to fight for the most marginalized. That's who I want to choose. If we talk about chosen. That's who I want to choose to help are those people. And that's, and I have no spiritual life at all. But I feel a moral calling that those are the people that need us the most.

Sammy Sage (50:55)

My root, my, my feeling on this. And this is kind of what I say to the people in my life who are, are more hawkish. How can you get rid of Hamas? You can just make more. Like, you just make more people. It's an ideology that you cannot stamp out. And they will, they, they will even acknowledge this because it aligns with their like biblical ideology that you can't totally get rid of anti Semitism, that there will always be people who hate, hate Jews. And I kind of think that's true. But I do think that there are ways to, for people's opinions to change. And I also think there are social structures within a society. I think in a small l. Liberal, small d Democratic society, that's where Jews are able to thrive because that's where you have freedom of religion. And I think what happened in Israel is that you have like an increasingly autocratic society. And Hama, there's. There are even records that Hamas decided to attack on October 7th because of the division, because Bibi had tried to create these judicial reforms so that he could stay in office. So he and his trying to make Israel more anti democratic so that he could stay out of jail for taking bribes. Which seems so quaint at this point, right? It's like, no, no, literally, it's like cigars and chocolates and like in exchange for like favorable media coverage. It's so like 2018. It's so he is trying to. And Israeli Politics are deeply, deeply dysfunctional. He was trying to stay out of jet. He was trying to stay out of prison and not be tried. And for. Because of that, you had, because he was threatening to make these constitutional reforms. You had so many protests. People were the most against him they've ever been. And you had people threatening to not go to the military. Everyone in Israel has to enroll in the military or in some sort of like, state service, or they get an exemption if they're studying in Yeshiva, which is actually the wedge issue that might threaten to collapse Bibi's coalition in the end, if that's even possible. But, yeah, you have really just someone who is not acting in the best interests of Israelis. And I think if you look at what like Mandy Patinkin said, he's kind of saying, and I'm really not on the, you know, I'm not trying to be on the road of, like, blaming Jews for anti Semitism. In fact, I think people, like, really don't listen to Jews when we try to explain what anti Semitism is, probably because people are so sick of being accused of being anti Semitic, but they really don't necessarily know the intricacies of it. But, yeah, I think what this, this is, is a situation where bad actors are getting cover from, are basically just getting cover from. From the situation. And don't you think you're.

Angie Hbic (62:39)

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Jennifer Welch (71:09)

Yeah, yeah, I just, I, I think I follow you. Obviously we've been on your podcast and I follow you on Instagram and you do some really good takes on this. And I think, think that credible messengers are really important, especially right now. And I think like, like Andy Bershear and that James Talarico, they're good. Talking to Christians about Christian nationalism. The atheist white lady in Oklahoma, I have not a credible messenger. The same goes for this situation. And I think, you know, Jon Stewart spoke out recently and it's very poignant things to say. And you are, if you don't listener, if you don't follow Sammy, follow her because she really covers this objectively. It shows you that any sort of thinking that we have where the sentences start with oh, the Jews, blah, blah, blah, and you lump people together is the same thing as lumping any other group of people together. They're not a monolith. Because I think when this originally all first started happening, I was skeptical to speak out on it because I do have a lot of Jewish friends and quite frankly there are a lot of my very favorite people. And politically I've always, in Oklahoma, you've got these right wing Christian nationalists and the Jewish people in our state have always, you know, supported progressive causes, supported a woman's right to choose, been Huge allies for the LGBTQ community. Much more humane and empathetic people than all of the evangelicals I grew up around. Were really, truly some of the cruelest people. I mean, always told me I was going to hell, always trying to convert me. Jewish people in my lives were like, we don't even believe in hell. And I was like, oh, I like that. Well, we don't have to recruit anybody else. Like, oh, I like that. And so I think that there is a time right now where probably Jews are going to feel uncomfortable and some of that discomfort is warranted because of what? When, when injustice is exposed, it's uncomfortable. But then there's also a safety issue where, you know, I've seen firsthand and been in white WASP circles a lot, where I hear racist stuff, where I hear anti Semitic stuff. I've heard it my whole life, Sammy. And I could go into the, you know, a country club right now and I'd hear that, that stuff. And so I just think you're a really good voice and I want to amplify that. There are people that are, that are Jewish that see the same thing that everybody else sees and connect our sense of, of humanity. And when we all see human suffering, Jewish people see it too. And it must be a double edged sword because a lot of people think, you know, uninformed Americans or people on the global stage think you're responsible for this simply because you're Jewish. And that's just simply not the case. It is. That would be like saying, I was just, I was just in Europe, that I'm responsible for allegations or alcohol, Alcatraz, just because I'm American and I don't want, I completely disapprove of everything that MAGA does, but I am an American. There's nothing I can do about that.