Angie (3:57)

Yeah, it's just. Here's my thing with it. Not everybody is a mother. And I completely, 1 million percent agree. When I start hearing here's a dad hack for you, I'm all in. I think that's a great idea.

Jennifer (4:15)

All right, so let me tell you what I've had it with. It pertains to my husband Josh. So we recently I've been doing, like, wordle connections crossword mini, New York Times crossword forever. I do it all the time, every morning when I get up. Well, Josh just started doing these things because he said has early onset dementia and that he is trying to do brain exercises. Well, first and foremost, he was like, when we were in Mexico for our Valentine's trip, he was like, hey, I'm doing these word puzzles. Do them with me. And it's some app that he had, like, exercise your brain app. And we. I start doing it. It's so easy. And I was like, josh, this is like nursing home shit. Like, this is embarrassing. Just do the New York Times, do wordle, do the crossword mini, and then when you graduate, do the crossword puzzle. So he dives into it. And he's a victim of crossword clues. He believes that there is a grand conspiracy by the maker of the crossword clues to personally dick him over. And I'm like, it's just crosswords are quirky. A lot of the clues piss you off, but that's just in it. Like, as a cross worder, you just have to buy into the fact that sometimes the maker of the puzzle thinks they're real clever and they're real cute, and they try to do something that is ridiculous, and you just have to accept it. You cannot be a crossword player and then also be a victim of the crossword clues. Like, you just. It's just. It's a part of the contract that you enter in doing the crossword puzzles. And it's every day. It's every single day we have to review. So we send each other our results. And particularly, he's very into the crossword mini. I typically get the mini in a minute or less. And I send it to him, and then he does his, and he sends it back to me. It's always like nine minutes. And he just writes, stage five dementia. Or it'll be like seven minutes. And he just sends it to me and he puts early onset.

Angie (6:29)

Okay. I have to tell you, I have done the same thing. Not with the crossword, but I have, like, googled, find an app to keep your brain young, Challenge your brain. And I've downloaded all that crap. And I'm like, if I can't do this, I'm just done. Like, just put me. Put a fork in me. I'm done. It's over. It was so easy. But I do periodically do it, do that. Get on and download the game.

Jennifer (6:55)

The game that he had downloaded. So he's like, hey, we're laying out on the beach. He's like, hey, do this. Do this brain exercise thing with me. And I'm like, okay. And it's like a narrator that's like, in 1492, Columbus sold the ocean blue. And then these little bubbles pop up, and you click what she's saying. And I was like, josh, do you think that this is hard? It's like, well, no. I'm just. You know, it just gets defensive. So then we segued over to the crossword puzzles. But there's a lot of. There's a lot of nursing home games out there, and Josh is falling prey to them.

Angie (7:33)

Yeah. I have to. I have to. Have to admit.

Jennifer (7:36)

All right, Pumps. What have you. I want to tell our listener something before. So here's the thing it's been really difficult doing. I've had it with all of the egregious human rights violations, geopolitical war crimes, compulsive lying by the federal government and not talking about those things. And so it felt like our original podcast that we had, this one that you all are listening to, like it was fun and it was funny and then all of these very serious things started happening and it was like we need to talk about those serious things. But we also have this other podcast, as many of you know, I hip news that drops a gajillion times a day where we talk about all the fuckery war crimes, dehumanization, lawlessness of the Trump regime. So on this podcast we're going to try to take it back to a little bit more humor because we get to laugh. We don't have to be in the fetal position at all times. And so we are going to talk a little bit about politics on this one, but we want to swing it back more towards its roots where we giggled and talk about the shit that people do that drive us crazy. But we will visit a little bit of politics sometimes. What's just a lightning round at the top of this episode, what have you had it with pertaining to politics?

Angie (9:00)

Well, I mean I'm trying to be, I'm trying to shorten this, but at the end of the day, I've had it with Trump making policy on lie social and threatening other countries on lysocial. We all know he's not going to follow through. And then the press secretary says, well, if you posted on true social, that's the U.S. policy. And I thought, are we in fifth grade? Is that what's happened here? So that's what I've had it with overall short.

Jennifer (9:29)

Okay. What I've had it with politically overall short is this narrative that gets perpetuated in Western media and among far right Israeli groups that we cannot criticize the government of Israel. Every single government, individual politician, dog, cat, Instagram post, YouTube video podcast, everything is worthy of criticism. Every thing on this planet. And if people say you cannot criticize something, it is a cult, period. And they're doing bad shit. So I've had it with the Israeli government and the organizations that are American that support the war crime Israeli government telling us that we can't criticize war crimes. It is abusive, it is gaslighting, it is the most anti democratic thing on the planet and most and furthermore, it does nothing but endanger Jews worldwide. Everything should be criticized most of all the United States of America. Secondly, their ally, Israel, that are bombing places with impunity. It's gross. I will criticize both forever. All right, welcome to I've had it. I'm Jennifer.

Angie (10:51)

I'm Angie.

Jennifer (10:53)

All right, Kylie, what is going on on the world wide web?

Kylie (10:58)

I got a great email from my listener Dan from Rhode island, and he emails us to write. Hey, Angie Pumps and Kylie. As a single gaytrit man living in Trump's America, I've really had it with swiping through dating profiles of available gay men in my area to find out that so many of them have their political affiliations listed as moderate or not political. And I'm not even including the gay men who are listing their political views as conservative because that type of pick me energy from the LGBT dating pool is just a non starter to even engage with. But to be a gay man living through this political climate and still identifying with being a lame milquetoast centrist or as apolitical must come with a willful numbing of the mind giving white women maga energy all around. Love you all.

Angie (11:48)

I really like that. You know, don't you think that when it says not political probably means they're maga, but they just don't want to admit it because they know it's a bad look?

Jennifer (12:00)

I think in a lot of cases that's true, but I also think a lot of people it just are so desperate to be chosen to be pick me that they just don't have the conviction to stand on business. I think there's a lot of people that just are nihilists that don't believe in anything and it's just like it sadly. But I like in that letter that he clearly thinks that I'm pumped because it says dear Angie, Pumps and Kylie.

Angie (12:29)

Yeah, I saw that. I wondered about that.

Jennifer (12:31)

Yeah, I see that sometimes in comments. It's like I love when pump says and it's exactly what I said or somebody will say something. And so I think that that might happen a lot. All right, what's next?

Kylie (12:43)

Okay, I've got a comment from YouTube and Jeremy comments. Fuck yeah, real men. Listen to the I've had it podcast. I'm a father of two beautiful daughters and a husband stay at home dad who' wife brings home the bread. And I'm proud of that. I'm 47 from Arizona and your podcast couldn't have come at a better time. We all need Pumps Angie and Kylie in our lives. I didn't even notice that.

Jennifer (13:08)

Yeah, it's happening again either. It's exclusionary, which is totally possible. But that's very sweet. I do think real men listen to off the bro sphere and into a more mixed world of inclusive inclusivity. So I appreciate that. All right, so I wanted to share with you guys some news that I think is super important. And I was on Instagram, which is really the only social media platform that I get on, and I go to, like, my for you page, which has been. It's a lot of punch the monkey right now. It's a lot of tennis. It's a lot of French bulldogs. It's a lot of Carolyn Bessette and John Kennedy Jr. It's a lot of travel stuff. And this story, I guess, because they know that I love animals. My algorithm, the story about these animal rights activists, you guys, they go, I believe it's in Wisconsin, and they are. There is a laboratory, and they are breeding beagles for research. What? And so these protesters go in and save these beagles. Play the first clip. 2,000 lab dogs from torture at Ridgeland Farms. On March 16, hundreds of people are heading to Wisconsin to rescue beagles from Ridgeland Farms, one of the largest experimentation facilities in the nation. The government admits these dogs have been subjected to felony animal abuse, including intensive confinement, criminal neglect, and even surgical mutilation without anesthesia. But it has refused to rescue the pups. So now we will. Our plan is simple. Inspire 100 people to go right through industry, security, and even police lines to give aid to the pups. We're going to force the government to choose between prosecuting peaceful rescuers or joining us in saving the dogs. But to accomplish this, we need your help. Okay, so that's the call to action. And they want to get a hundred people. This happened a couple weeks ago, to go rescue these beagles. So then, of course, I'm, like, liking that. And then the algorithm keeps serving it up to me. And then I'm on Google and I'm doing my own research. They went in and they saved the beagles. Play the next clip. Okay, so here they are. They cut through the barbed wire fence, and they're all in, like, these white outfits. They've got backpacks on, and they're heading to the. To the lab. They're banging open the door. He has over 100 people prying the door open. For those of you that are listening now, they're going through windows. Alarms are going off, and they are passing the beagles through the window. And he puts that beagle up on his hip, and he says, you're going Home, mama. And he has that beagle on his hip, and he is walking that beagle. Look at all those beagles in those cages. For those of you that are watching on YouTube, just horrific that they are breeding these little dogs and they don't even get to see the sky. They don't get to see the grass. They don't get to play. They're just in those horrible cages. And I just want to say that not all heroes wear capes. See, they've got all these beagles. And then I followed the guy who did it, the initial thing, and he had show was showing video of the beagles at home with him, and they had, like, a little play area. But here's the thing. The government then has gotten some of the beagles back, and they've arrested a bunch of these protesters. And so that was the last update I had on it. And I just. I cannot believe that there's just so much going on in the world, like, with Trump and all the he does, you know, I wish that we could be talking about, like, stuff like this. That people had health care, that ICE wasn't shooting people, that we weren't bombing Iran, that we weren't giving Israel blank checks to commit a genocide, first in Gaza, now it looks like in Lebanon, so that we could deal with these things. We could deal with gun violence, we could deal with these poor Beagles. And, like, I mean, I would go march all up in that for those Beagles. I wish that we could, you know, march for a judicial system that was fair for everybody instead of an apartheid judicial system which reigns in America. Or about climate change. I mean, I. Y' all know we're from Oklahoma City, and last weekend it was 98 degrees in Oklahoma City in March. But we can't talk about any of these things because we have to deal with toddler poopy pants and all of his dementia and all of the people that will not stand up to him. And we have to all go through the war and all this shit for these insecure, emotionally stunted people. And those fucking beagles are now back, and we can't. You know, like, I can't spend a whole episode talking about the Beagles. I want to, but we can't because there's, like, people dying. ICE is about to go into the airport. It's like, that's so stupid. But anyway, I just want to share with you all about those beagles, because I just. I can't believe that people do that to dogs. It just makes me insane.

Angie (18:34)

I was so confused like, they admit they're doing all these horrible things to them. Like, and nobody does anything about it. I don't know. I'm very impressed, though, that the guy just marched in with all those people and got those dogs. I mean, he would not be denied. I'm sure he was the first one arrested.

Jennifer (18:53)

He put that dog up on his hip and he marched it right out.

Angie (18:55)

Mama, you're going home.

Jennifer (18:58)

Yeah. All right, Kylie, what else is happening in the news?

Kylie (19:01)

Okay, I've got a breaking story. House Republicans advance bill to ban strippers in schools with no evidence of strippers ever being. Being in schools. And if that doesn't sum up the

Jennifer (19:16)

Republican Party perfectly, yeah, it's a real

Angie (19:21)

problem, strippers not being in school. So we need to make a rule, ban them.

Jennifer (19:27)

I think the thing is this, whatever Republicans are talking about, they want. Yes, we're talking about gay people, they want to do gay stuff. We're talking about drag queens, they want to dress up in drag. They're talking about strippers not being in schools. They want to go to titty bars. I mean, I just think it's just every accusation is a confession time and time and time again. I think whoever wrote that bill wants lap dances, wants to be motorboated once. The whole thing. And here's the thing, I don't give a shit. There are no strippers in school. And all of this is, furthermore, it's a two pronged attack because not only is it an attack on legal sex workers, which, if somebody's a stripper, that's their right to be a stripper. So it's a, it's a demeaning, minimizing debasing of that profession, number one. And number two, it's an attack on the education system because it, it, there's always these hints by Republicans that all of this indoctrination and grab ass and squeezing titties and whacking wieners is going on in litter boxes is going on in schools. And none of that is going on in schools. Teachers work so hard. They have to deal with horrific helicopter parents, and then they're snot nosed entitled kids, and then they have to deal with people, these crazy, unhinged politicians. I feel so bad for teachers. They get such a bad rap and people don't stand up for them enough.

Angie (21:07)

No, I agree. Now they're like shutting down funding, closing the Department of Education. And I know a lot of teachers spend money out of their own pockets to provide for students in their classrooms. And I had, I didn't know this until well after I was an adult. But when I was in fifth grade, there was a student that had food insecurity and the teacher packed dinner for her every night and like stuck it in. We're not. We never knew the person told me about it as an adult that she was feeding this child at night with the peanut butter and jelly sandwich some stuff she brought with her to school. So the parents alone are the biggest problem on the planet. The funding. But sitting here talking like we're indoctrinated people at school with porn. Like, remember what's his face?

Jennifer (21:58)

Litter boxes.

Angie (21:59)

Yeah.

Jennifer (22:00)

I mean the. It's just. And the Republicans, it's all the litter box politics always like, well, these furries with their litter boxes and kids are, you know, taking a. In a litter box at school. It's never happened. It has never happened. There is not a litter box at a school. I think there is. Like, I, I've read somewhere that there was maybe some cat litter that it had something to do with like holding the door shut in case of a shooter or something like this. I don't know. But the banning of the books, the right. It's all of these Bible thumping maga freak shows that are so emotionally stunted that want everybody to be as miserable as they are. Which is why there's this overt action in evangelical. Evangelical Christianity to proselyze because misery loves company. It's the only thing that makes sense. And they like money, so the more members they have, the more money they make. But they're so miserable with all of these ridiculous rules that, that are that they impose on themselves. Like stupid. Like, I remember I had this girl that worked for me, she had all these tattoos all over and she's like, yeah, I'm just really stressed out because I'm just trying to figure out with my Bible study group if I should get a tattoo. And I'm like looking at her arms going, okay, but like, you have nine. And she's like, yeah, I know. But this was like before I joined this Bible study group, like it would God want me to have another tattoo? And I'm like thinking, you stupid twat. If God exists, he doesn't give a. You narcissist. You freak show. That you're a Bible study group is spending time talking about if you should get a tattoo or not. You're all freaks. You're all dumb. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And I feel dumber for having heard it. Don't get that tattoo because I'm gonna Feel like a. If I have to look at it, I just. I can't. The narcissist mysticism in that level of evangelical Christianity where somebody would think the. The being that created the universe gives a flying. If they get a tattoo, it's just jaw dropping.

Angie (24:14)

Oh, I remember parking places like, God, get me a good parking place.

Jennifer (24:19)

That kind of.

Angie (24:21)

When you think you are the center of the universe, you just don't think anything about it. Just the entitlement and narcissism. It's just. I mean, I can remember doing crazy shit like that.

Jennifer (24:33)

I remember I went when, like early days of Josh's addiction. I was so hurt and I was so young, and I had this young baby and I didn't know how to deal with addiction. So I went to an Al Anon meeting in Oklahoma City and the Al Anon meetings in Oklahoma City there. Because Oklahoma City is so incredibly religious. I think 75% of the population is like evangelical Christian or something. The Al Anon meetings were super Jesus heavy and everybody knows I'm super atheist. But I was desperate, right? Desperate times call for desperate measures. I needed some sense of relief. And so it's like the second Alanine meeting I get to, and this lady, everybody's going around the room speaking, and she's like, hi, I'm blank and I'm not going to tell your name because it's anonymous. And she says, I was on my way here and I thought I was going to be late, and the light changed to yellow. And then I pulled right up and then I got a parking spot and I thought, you know, if I would have been like, two minutes later, I wouldn't be sitting here speaking at this exact time. And it was just that prayer. It's that daily prayer. And I thought whether you prayed or not prayed, the light was turning yellow. When it turned yellow, you narcissistic freak,

Angie (25:55)

it's on a timer.

Kylie (25:58)

Like,

Jennifer (26:01)

why do people think that happens exclusively for them?

Angie (26:06)

Well, short answer is they're taught their whole lives that that's what happens.

Jennifer (26:12)

What, a cult?

Angie (26:13)

Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, it's.

Jennifer (26:16)

That's how they roll.

Angie (26:17)

That's how I was taught anyway. Remember, God likes me more than everybody else. I said that and I believed it. So, I mean, it just. I wasn't the only. I wasn't in a vacuum.

Jennifer (26:29)

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Kylie (29:52)

Okay, I've got another news story. Divorce is contagious. If a close friend gets divorced, your own chances of splitting up increase by 75% says. Sociologists have found divorce can spread through social networks in a pattern sometimes described as contagious. When a close friend divorces, the likelihood of divorce within someone's own marriage can increase significantly.

Jennifer (30:19)

I totally believe that. Totally. I totally. I've seen that happen in friends group. In friend groups.

Angie (30:25)

Well, I think part of it is when people start talking honestly about what's going on in their marriage and they see somebody, you know, I'm going to get a divorce. I mean, there has to be fissures in your own marriage for it to start, obviously. But when you see somebody empowering themselves and saying, you know what, I'm going to step out of this, I think it makes people do self examination more. At least that's how kind of I view it.

Jennifer (30:53)

I think that's really sweet. I think a lot of it is marriage and monogamy can be incredibly boring and mundane. And I think some people, there might be an existing fissure. I think a lot of us are just fucking rabid animals. And you see, oh, look at her, she's out partying, she's fucking this, this guy and she's doing that. The same for men. They're like, God, you know, John just got divorced and have you seen the ass he's going through me is plowing through these people on tinder left, right. It looks so fun. And so then people buy into the grass is greener and most of the time it is not. But we are just profoundly, predictably disappointing human beings. And the whole keeping up with the Joneses, whether it's getting married, I think when, when you see a friend group that's all getting married, that can be contagious. And I think the same thing with divorce. And I think it doesn't take a lot sometimes for people to see what they believe is greener grass and want to jump into that.

Angie (31:59)

Agree. And also I would just throw in a lot of friend groups. The people are each other. So when that comes out, a lot of marriages break down. Like, you think I'm crazy. I've done divorces where the sister or the brother of my client was having an affair with the spouse. Like best friends, their best friend's husband. I mean, like it is. That is not isolated.

Jennifer (32:23)

That's a great spin on that pumps that when everybody finds out everybody's fucking each Other, it causes a mass casualty of divorce, right?

Angie (32:32)

The whole friend group goes to shit.

Jennifer (32:35)

Everybody goes down.

Angie (32:36)

Yeah.

Jennifer (32:36)

Okay. My son sent me a rather alarming video that I think is circulating on Christian Talk that I immediately wanted to bring to everybody for analysis and review because it is one of the more fucked up, narcissistic, slightly delicious things I've seen in some time. And so while we have all of this going on in the world right now, right, Erosion of civil liberties, bombing Iran, genocide in Gaza, looks to be ethnic cleansing in Lebanon. We're allowing Russia to help Iran, but also relieving sanctions. All this, right? This on Christian. Christian Talk is worried about the following. Play the video, Kylie. So she posts this video and it says things I don't believe as a Christ follower who is Disney obsessed. Okay? So. And then it shows pictures of her and it's goes to like a praise song, you know, like the rock band praise song. And it shows her like with the monkey, with the monkey ears, with the mouse ears, looking at the Disney cruise. And it shows her walking through Disney World, okay? Or Disneyland, whatever. Same diff. And here is the caption to this. Pop it up. First of all, her name, her Instagram name is a. A pair of ears. Travel with Desi. Okay, number one, the adults are too old for Disney. I stopped believing Joy has an age limit. God made us to experience wonder, laughter, and connection. If something brings families together, why would that be too old? Joy doesn't expire. Number two, that serving families through travel isn't ministry. Ministry isn't only a microphone on a stage. Sometimes it looks like helping an overwhelmed mom finally breathe. Helping a family reconnect without stress or taking the burden of planning off someone who's drowning. I'm not just booking trips. I'm serving clients. Number three, that I can't fix my faith and love for Disney. I'm just.

Angie (35:04)

I hate her. I hate her already.

Jennifer (35:07)

God gave me my passions and my personality. I don't have to separate my faith from the things I enjoy. My love for Jesus is the foundation and everything else flows from that, including the way I help families and create community. Number four, that God isn't in the details of ordinary moments. I've learned it's often there the most. In the quiet prayers before a park day, in the quiet prayers before a park day, in the hugs after fireworks, in the we really needed this conversations. The ordinary moments where he. He is capitalized, does most of his capitalized his beautiful work. Okay? Number five, that Disney is, quote, worldly. God is bigger than A brand. He's not confined to buildings and he is not intimidated by imagination. My heart is anchored to him. I can enjoy the things he's allowed me to love. Number six. That my love for Disney couldn't have kingdom purpose.

Angie (36:38)

What?

Jennifer (36:38)

Through our women anchored in Christ retreat and our Bibidi Bobidi Bible study, I watching God use my love for Disney and his capitalize his truth to draw people deeper into scripture. What some see as quote just Disney I see is a tool God can use for his glory.

Angie (37:13)

Wow.

Jennifer (37:13)

That will conclude her post. Now I would like to open that to analysis.

Angie (37:21)

Absolutely.

Jennifer (37:23)

Okay, Kylie, your initial thoughts about this woman and the six point bulletin as to why she can be a Christian that loves Disney.

Kylie (37:36)

First off, I hate the name Bibbidi Bobbidi Bible study.

Angie (37:41)

What is he even talking about?

Kylie (37:42)

It's from a Disney show like a Bibbidi Bobbidi boo.

Angie (37:46)

And it's like I have heard that.

Kylie (37:48)

Okay, here's the thing. I already don't like Disney adults. Take that Christians. Overt Internet Christians is a specific sect I hate. And then I've seen this.

Jennifer (38:00)

But let me ask you this, let me ask you this.

Kylie (38:02)

Yeah.

Jennifer (38:02)

Do you like Christians?

Kylie (38:05)

I like a few of them. I like a few of them. I do. Which is a secret on the show. Yeah, there are a few I like. And then I've seen her post also and she mentioned in there it's like women's anchored in Disney and Christ or

Jennifer (38:25)

whatever is their group.

Kylie (38:26)

Jen. They specifically go on yearly cruises and the boat is just full. You're trapped in the ocean of Disney Christian adults.

Angie (38:36)

I can't imagine very few things that I can imagine that are worse than that. Very few.

Kylie (38:40)

If I, if I had to come up with one thing to to make Jennifer's like honestly jump off a ship, that would be it.

Jennifer (38:48)

I'll tell you what I would be.

Angie (38:49)

I would rather Ted Cruz and take five minutes from that two pump champ then go for a week on a Disney Christian cruise like all day long. I, I no lube. I mean that is just absolute misery. Here's my thing I want to say. Who the cares? For starters, nobody. Nobody cares what you're doing. Is somebody trying to shut down Disney to Christians and I missed it. Is it like the war on Christmas now there's a war on going to D. I mean, shut the up. And I will just say on a personal note, Disney does not make me bring me joy. It brings me absolutely feelings of homicidal rage. So she needs to sit down and shut the up in My opinion.

Jennifer (39:39)

So I think this is like, this makes perfect sense that these people are like MAGA voters because this is the shit she's consumed with, right? Try like it's like the girl that used to work for me in the tattoo. These are arbitrary things. Kylie put up the. Let me go through. There's a couple of little points I wanted to dive into of her. Points that I thought were rather interesting. The ministry situation that somehow people need to do ministry is, is ridiculous, narcissistic. You're not an expert in anything. You don't need to be ministering to anybody. And put up the next slide. Okay. There was something in here, okay? Jesus is the foundation and everything flows from that in this kind of language right here. You hear a lot in the Bible Belt. God isn't in the details of ordinary moments. And then she rebuts that and she is talking about that they're praying quiet prayers in the park before it opens. So on top of this, on top of this insane post, she's having a prayer group in the parking lot of Disney World before they go in. And here's what's so hilarious about it. She's saying that these ordinary moments, Disney, multi billion dollar companies where God does most of his beautiful work. Disney is a poor for profit company. And let's say, let's say God exists, right? I don't think he's concerned with people that can afford to go to Disney, can go on Disney cruises that are having powwow prayer groups before they go into Disney so that they can find God in the unordinary details or whatever the fuck that thing was. I think it's complete narcissism. I think this is total narcissism. Just say I like Disney, right? I like going there. Why? This is like, you know what this is like. There's a restaurant across the street from the gym I work out at and it looks really cute. And so I asked this girl that I work out with that, that restaurant looks good. What kind of food do they have? And she said, well, it's weird. It's like Japanese and Italian fusion. And I was like, they shouldn't do that. Likewise. This Disney and Christianity fusion, it shouldn't be done. Be a Christian. Swing for the fences, knock yourself out. Go to your bibbidi boppity. Do all tongue talking. Swing for the fences. Go triple trump. Do all of it and likewise go Disney. Go wear your little ears, go on your little cruise. Go a million times. But the fusion of things that shouldn't really be fused. I'VE had it with that.

Angie (42:39)

But I, and I read from this, and maybe I read into this that she's trying to make money organizing people to go to Disney.

Jennifer (42:49)

I think so too.

Angie (42:51)

Disney ministry. So this is a group at the end of the day, instead of just saying, hey, I'm so good at taking you through Disney. If you want to get through Disney quick and see all the sites, I'm your girl. She's trying to hoodwink you into this whole it's a ministry instead of just and I'll be your guide for get Disney, pay me 500 bucks or whatever.

Jennifer (43:13)

Well, all of those pyramid schemes, all of those pyramid schemes, those. They all network through mega churches.

Angie (43:21)

All I did all of them whole thing on that. It's crazy.

Jennifer (43:25)

They, they start these pyramid schemes, these rackets, and then they immediately march straight to the mega church where the women are motivated, organized, and bored to tears and they get to work and then they start the grift just like their pastor does with building all of this. And so it's just the. I've had it. I've completely had it. Also, the Christian talk thing is wild. Have you seen that shit pumps. I mean, you lived it.

Angie (43:56)

No, but I've never. I didn't know there was such a thing. I mean, we've talked about Christian talk. So if I got on and said and inputted Christian talk, then there's just this whole sphere.

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Angie (47:29)

Okay, speaking of Christian talk, I want to just lightly touch on the soft swinging done by the Mormons. I didn't know there was a soft swing. I mean, I knew about the soaking. I knew about banging each other in the elbows and the kneecaps. I knew all that was going on, but I did not know that the soft swinging that blew up with that Mormon wives thing, I thought it was just swinging, but it was soft swinging. And you know what soft swinging is, Jennifer? Did you know?

Jennifer (48:00)

No, I have no idea.

Angie (48:01)

It's just above the waist. So grown ass adult people that are married to other people, the reach around for swinging is they keep it above the waist. Are you first hitting me? No one does that.

Jennifer (48:15)

You know what's wild? I don't want. I don't pay attention to any of the reality TV shows, right? But my son and his girlfriend were here visiting me, and so they were super into this whole Bachelorette thing.

Angie (48:26)

Yes.

Jennifer (48:27)

That's why this Bachelorette gal, I guess she's a Mormon and she's got three kids and she goes bananas on her boyfriend or baby daddy and she starts throwing bar stools. I watched the entire video of, of this meltdown this girl had. She throws these bar stools at him and her child is there. Meanwhile, I think she's on, like, probation for this charge. ABC decides to hire this gal to be the Bachelorette, and they film the entire thing. And then this episode of her being a complete fucking freak, throwing barstools at her husband while. And like, I think one of them, like, grays, like, hits her toddler kid one of the barstools. So, I mean, clearly she's. And listen, I want to give everybody grace. I mean, who knows if he was, you know, if he was soft serving and, you know, soaking with her sister, you know, who knows? Because I know these people are so sexually in. Anyway, here's my point. So then ABC's like, oh, my God, we can't hear the Bachelorette. And I'm like, you knew that she was a psycho Mormon killer when you know, song psycho killer. But then why did you film it with her? Why are you filming with this gal when she clearly needs to go to some sort of inpatient deprogramming situation from years of soaking soft serving elbow fucking armpit for fucking whatever.

Angie (50:11)

Well, here's the thing on that. I thought in the beginning because I kind of. I don't watch it, the Mormon wives thing, but my daughter's super into it. So that came across my deal and I sent it to her. And apparently this was all public record, like in her baby daddy custody. So there is absolutely no way on planet earth. ABC did not know.

Jennifer (50:36)

That's my thing. Like, why? Why out of all of the thirst traps on the planet. I mean, we, we live in the United States of America. You cannot go to one event without influencer thirst traps blocking the way. You can't peacefully pass. And they do it shamelessly. You could have a lineup of 40 million girls that are dying to be the Bachelorette and you pick psycho killer to do it. It's just, I, I thought that was. And I'm not into all of this stuff, but I watched the video and again, I don't know what this. Because after I watched the video, my son and her, his girlfriend like, she's crazy. And I was like, what did he do?

Angie (51:20)

What did he do?

Jennifer (51:21)

What did that guy do? Not that that's ever. You should ever take barstools and throw it, but I think we've all had moments in our lives where you're like, that wasn't my best. Now, I imagine the scowls probably had multiple moments like that. If he thought, I'm going to film it. She probably thought it had happened a lot before. Not the first time. That was crazy.

Angie (51:46)

Crazy. And here's the deal. We all know I've blacked out twice and committed violence, but my children were not around when I did it with my ex husband. But here's the thing on that whole deal.

Jennifer (51:58)

Wait. I do not think you were blacked out when you took your Gucci hobo bag and beat the.

Angie (52:03)

Well, okay. It was one of those things.

Jennifer (52:04)

I think that was stone cold sober. I think that was.

Angie (52:07)

I know, but I felt drunk. Like. Like I was so mad that, like, I picked it up and the next thing I know, I'm, like, banging it, like, got away from me. I was not. No stone cold sober. Both times I committed violence, I was stone cold sober when I hit him in the nose.

Jennifer (52:24)

Stone cold sober. But.

Angie (52:28)

But what I'm saying about this whole thing is I haven't watched the Bachelorette franchise for, like, I watched the very first one that ever came out. That's it.

Jennifer (52:36)

Yeah, that girl. I watched that one too, with the firefighter.

Angie (52:39)

And I think they got married and they're still together. And I love that.

Jennifer (52:41)

Yeah.

Angie (52:42)

But now that we have all the information in front of us, I want to see. I would now be interested in watching the mess that would unfold on this series.

Jennifer (52:54)

That's the thing. Like, I would have never watched it before, but now knowing that this gal is such a psycho killer. Yeah. Kiss kiss a bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum. I. I would probably. I wouldn't think I'd watch the whole thing.

Angie (53:11)

No.

Jennifer (53:12)

But I'd probably dabble. I'd be more interested in dabbling in it, for sure. But what prompted your. Does this story with this Mormon gal? Is. Is she a soft.

Angie (53:27)

Yes. Okay. That's why the whole Mormon lives. There was a mom Mormon mom talk where they were all dancing and then they got a show because this girl and her husband admit that they're swinging within the friend group, which, you know, Mormons don't swing or whatever. Well, and my thought. I thought it was just swinging. And then in the course of all this coming off My feed, it was the soft swinging. And I was just like, of all the crazy Mormon I've heard of. And then it was like, adults above the way. Soft swinging. Nobody believes that. Nobody.

Jennifer (54:02)

Well, I. I would hope if I was soft swinging that the word hard would come to mind.

Angie (54:09)

If you're soft swinging, you're doing it wrong.

Jennifer (54:12)

Yeah. You're using the word soft, right. As a means to make out with somebody. I mean.

Angie (54:20)

Yeah. Oh, God, that was funny.

Jennifer (54:24)

The Mormons. No, that's. That whole thing with that. I watched that video. It was. It was completely disturbing. But, you know, here's the thing that I have to say about a lot of this. I wonder if when they. When they autopsy American culture, not just Trump, because Americans voted for him, right? It's not just a Trump. We don't have just a Trump problem. If the dismantling of civil society coincides with the rise of reality television and all of the histrionics and drama that is mainstreamed, where you see, you know, like on the Housewife franchises, they're throwing tables at each other, glasses at each other. This gal's throwing, you know, barstools across at her husband. There's just so much of it that you see, just the collapse of politeness. And in most situations, you wouldn't be around these people anymore. But they've all signed a contract, and they all have to show up to the same place to film. And so it just highlights this really bad, toxic behavior. And I wonder if that, you know, is. Is a culminating factor for the cultural collapse of accepting somebody like Trump. That's just. I mean, he's just like these people that we're talking about. Like, if he could pick up a barstool and throw it, I don't think he has the physicality to do that.

Angie (55:46)

Right.

Jennifer (55:47)

If he could, I think that he would. I think that he would throw it at Barack Obama. If he could, I think he would enjoy it.

Angie (55:53)

Yeah, for sure. I. I do think when the autopsy is done, there will have to be a link because we've kind of made it cool. Like, if you throw tables and you're a nut in public, you get on.

Jennifer (56:08)

It's juicy. It's like we're sitting here talking about that, and I'm not into reality tv, but I got sucked into this thing. Now we're talking about it, and there's a juicy nature to it. And then Trump has made politics. Politics kind of juicy because he's so crazy, and we're into it. You know, like, we, you know, we follow the news cycle. Oh, my God. What has he done today? What? You know what? What crazy is he doing? Oh, my God. Watch this video of him. He's trying to give a microphone a blowjob. My God, look at his makeup today. Can you believe he just said Quiet Piggy to a reporter?

Angie (56:40)

Right.

Jennifer (56:40)

And like, even people that aren't into it, it's like we've all succumbed to it in some form or fashion, myself included. And I wish that I wasn't, but I'm a political junkie and. And a part of it, to the detriment of American society, is. It's been really addicting.

Angie (57:04)

Yeah.

Jennifer (57:04)

And I hate even saying that, but there is an addictive component to his. We're all past that now, obviously, but you get sucked into the news cycle like you do a reality TV show, and I think there's a correlation there. I agree.

Kylie (57:19)

There's also a lot more crossover happening. We see a lot more reality stars are running for office. You've got this guy, Spencer Pratt, who was the villain in the Psycho on the Hills. He's running for mayor of la, and he's a serious contender. We've got this. I don't know actually what his political leanings are.

Jennifer (57:40)

I would think Maga La wouldn't work. Okay.

Kylie (57:42)

Yeah, I don't think so. There's this girl named Farrah. She was famous from Teen mom on mtv. She's an idiot. And she signed up to run in, I want to say Texas. And on TMZ Live, she said, yeah, I just. I filed or I'm going to file. And the guy goes, you know that the race isn't.

Jennifer (58:03)

For two years.

Kylie (58:04)

She didn't even. And she goes, oh, I didn't know that. Like, they're idiots and they get steam because people like the reality TV and the politics.

Angie (58:14)

Well, look at Donald Trump.

Kylie (58:15)

It's scary. Yes, he is reality tv.

Jennifer (58:17)

Duffy of the Transportation, Secretary of Transportation. He's from a reality show. That's how he got his start. And so. And then if you look at, like, Hexeth. Fox News is reality tv.

Angie (58:32)

Yeah.

Jennifer (58:32)

You know, it is just judge, whatever. The crazy drunk. Yeah. That's reality tv. And so Trump himself, reality tv. So I think there's a huge. I'm sure that there's been papers. I'm sure we're very late to this. And I've thought about it for a long time, but I think there's just this societal collapse surrounding these things. And maybe if we prayed in the parking lot right beforehand, if we did a little Pre prayer worship. But you know what? They are. Strike that. They are doing that. They're doing that before they go into work at the White House. They're actually adding some tongue talking into it. And guess what? Not working. Not working. Oh, and I did see at the White House, they're doing praise worship jams. I saw a video of that. And guess what? I've done my analysis on all of it.

Angie (59:25)

Not working.

Jennifer (59:25)

Furthermore, I saw a photograph of Donald Trump after the Iran war with like, I don't know, 25 white dudes around him. I mean, crusty cracker, saltine. The worst of the worst. You know the word soft serve is. I mean, when I saw. But anyway, they did this incredible prayer slash photo shoot, all of them, around the president. And guess what? I've concluded it's not working at all. And so I don't think there has ever been an argument against performative prayer like there is with the MAGA Christians and this particular president, because I see it constantly backfiring. I see more deaths, more destruction, more inflation, more unsafe environments. It's. It's just an absolute shit show. And it's. It's really. It's really. I'm just going to go ahead and submit my thesis right now. MAGA prayer backfires. I stand by it. I'm presenting it as fact.

Angie (60:32)

Break news.

Jennifer (60:33)

MAGA prayer does the opposite of what you want. Yeah, or maybe that's what they do want. Maybe it is a death cult. I think it is a death cult.

Angie (60:43)

I was gonna say, haven't that been established?

Jennifer (60:46)

All right. We never got to our callers. But if for those of you that want to be callers, you don't actually call, you can go onto your phone and you go to Instagram and you go to watch how cute tubby is here. I go to this tongue. And you go to I've had it. And you go to I've had it podcast. And you hit the microphone in a dm. You go to the DM of I've had a podcast. You hit the microphone and you say, hi, my name is Christian Talk. And I've had it with these ladies. And they're blasphemy. It's all the time. They're going straight to hell. It's the devil's work. We would love to hear from you.

Angie (61:27)

Yes, love to.

Jennifer (61:29)

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Angie (62:00)

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