Podcast Summary: Jack Hibbs Podcast – "Bishop Sets A Trap For Trump" (Jan 30, 2025)
Episode Overview
In this insightful and highly opinionated episode, Jack Hibbs unpacks the controversial events surrounding President Trump's visit to the National Cathedral on Inauguration Day. Hibbs scrutinizes the role played by the presiding "bishop," whom he accuses of using the occasion as a stage for political activism rather than a genuine Christian prayer service. The episode explores broader concerns about spiritual authenticity, the challenges of Christian leadership in today's culture, doctrinal faithfulness, and the importance of discerning the difference between religious appearance and substance.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The National Cathedral Inauguration "Debacle"
[02:13 – 10:00]
- Hibbs labels the inauguration prayer gathering a "debacle," criticizing the planning and execution, especially the choice of a woman bishop who he claims was unqualified doctrinally and functionally.
- He accuses her of being an activist "masquerading" in religious garb, challenging the legitimacy of her bishopric according to Biblical standards (referencing 1 & 2 Timothy and Titus).
- "It's not possible for this woman who did what she did—she turns out to be an activist. She's a known activist who masquerades with clerical religious garb... according to first and Second Timothy and Titus, the Bible, she's not a bishop." – Jack Hibbs [03:40]
2. Scriptural Framework: Perilous Times and Religious Masquerade
[09:45 – 15:30]
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Hibbs anchors his critique in 2 Timothy 3, outlining signs of the last days: "perilous times," those who have "a form of godliness" but deny its power.
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He illustrates "perilous" as a wearing down effect, using the analogy of a woodworking planer.
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Warns that fake religiosity, detached from the Holy Spirit, will increase, evidenced by events like the National Cathedral service.
“There’s going to be those in the last days who look religious, but they deny the power of God...they look religious, they’re under a different spirit.” — Jack Hibbs [11:30]
3. On Christian Engagement with Controversial Events
[15:30 – 20:00]
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Hibbs defends participation in flawed or hostile religious events, arguing that declining invitations leaves the platform to falsehood, but accepting may provide an opportunity to proclaim the truth.
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He expresses dismay at the incompetence or secular priorities of those managing Trump's faith-based events.
"If there's 10 crazy people masquerading around in religiosity, denying the power of the Holy Spirit, and I'm invited and I'm the 10th, I'm not going to care about losing followers... I'm going to care about speaking truth to life, truth to error." — Jack Hibbs [17:10]
4. Trump's Reaction & the Bishop's Message
[21:00 – 28:00]
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Hibbs quotes Trump's late-night social media post critiquing the bishop and the event; Trump called her a "radical left hardline Trump hater."
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Both Hibbs and Trump allege the bishop failed to pray "in the name of Jesus" and used the podium for political rather than spiritual purposes.
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The bishop’s address is characterized as playing to emotions and identity groups (LGBTQ, transgender) rather than pursuing Christian truth or reconciliation.
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Hibbs and Trump argue she ignored or downplayed immigration-related crime and violence.
“You think the homosexual community in America is scared right now because Trump's president? They're not scared. And look, Trump said there’s two genders… When Trump said, oh, by the way, there’s two genders and from now on there's two genders… that received the greatest ovation.” — Jack Hibbs [29:10]
5. Broader Cultural Critique: Wokeness, Gender, and COVID
[28:00 – 31:00]
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Hibbs links the bishop’s message to "woke" ideology, arguing that such perspectives infiltrate religious spaces and leadership.
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He critiques post-COVID cultural shifts, the embrace of fluid gender identities, and describes the rise of pro-pedophile activism embedded within "gender confusion" advocacy.
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He uses strong language to describe the manipulation and harm he sees associated with these movements.
"If you peel back the layers, you're going to be talking to people who are very, very pro pedophile, very pro aberrant sexuality, very, very immoral people... who were the main prophets... for the gender confusion clan." — Jack Hibbs [30:30]
6. Takeaways and Exhortations for Listeners
[31:00 – 33:10]
- The main call is for discernment in the last days: distinguish real faith and Christian leadership from religious facsimiles.
- Hibbs encourages President Trump to surround himself with trustworthy, doctrinally sound Christian advisors—people who aren’t seeking the spotlight but can provide real spiritual counsel.
- He reiterates the Biblical warning about "doctrines of demons" being dressed up in the trappings of religion and urges believers to remain vigilant and rooted in Scripture.
- "The Bible’s always right. The Bible’s always true. Tomorrow’s breaking news is going to be in alignment with the Bible." — Jack Hibbs [31:20]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- On fake religiosity:
"Having a form of godliness, look religious, sound religious, masquerade as religious, but denying the power... from such people, turn away." — Jack Hibbs [11:00] - On the bishop's address:
"She took the opportunity, she turned it into her own show. She turned it into... what would have been a perfect add-on to the rhetoric at The View." — Jack Hibbs [23:40] - On gender:
"There's no third gender, fourth or 72 genders. You'll never listen. Every doctor knows this, every nurse knows this, every biologist, chemist knows this, every scientist knows this. Everybody knows this." — Jack Hibbs [29:45] - On faith leadership:
"I would encourage you [Trump] to surround yourself with good faith leaders, good faith advisors who don’t have to be in the spotlight... If you intend to be in association with a real Christian and real Christian churches, we don’t need you to have to worry about other things." — Jack Hibbs [32:00]
Important Timestamps
- [02:13] – Introduction to the National Cathedral event, definition of "debacle"
- [09:45] – Biblical analysis of "perilous times" and religious deception
- [15:30] – Statement on Christian duty amid false doctrine and hostile spaces
- [21:00] – Quoting and analyzing Trump’s reaction to the inauguration service
- [29:10] – Discussion of Trump’s statements on gender and audience response
- [31:00] – Final exhortations, biblical perspective, practical applications
Tone & Style
Jack Hibbs brings a bold, polemical, and unapologetic evangelical tone. He emphasizes Biblical inerrancy, doctrinal purity, and cultural confrontation. The delivery is passionate, direct, and challenges listeners to actively discern cultural and spiritual trends—while occasionally mixing in personal anecdotes and criticisms aimed at both secular and religious actors in public life.
Summary & Takeaway
This episode calls on believers to discern the difference between mere religious show and genuine faith rooted in Biblical truth, especially as culture accelerates toward deception and confusion. Hibbs' central message is for Christians (and notable public figures like Trump) to surround themselves with trustworthy, faithful leaders—not activists disguised in religious clothing—and to stand firm in convictions, even as the spiritual and cultural climate grows ever more contentious.
