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Jamie Catto is a musician, filmmaker, author, and teacher. His new album "All Heart" with Matt Coldrick is out now. Website: https://www.jamiecatto.com/ All Heart: https://www.allheart.life/ + streaming Podcast Links: Website: https://jakewarinnerpodcast.com/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3kiojUxYZFyVdHOGl727jR?si=31164e616f1846a9 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jake-warinner-podcast/id1711278585 Social: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jakewarinner_/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jakewarinner

Steve Kanji Ruhl is a Zen Buddhist minister, teacher, and author. Steve Kanji Ruhl: Website: http://www.stevekanjiruhl.com/ Appalachian Zen: https://www.amazon.com/Appalachian-Zen-Journeys-American-Heartland/dp/B0BL82NYT4/ref=sr_1_2?crid=23IXC9I5WD6ZT&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.KjqP7mHuA7QgsM8RYpzjbcNTqLgyEHa_E8NM4kxURdx4vrpSDhMbFYImwJzlPnDLGvyTH1BYfKKUEG5PyZvC_A.24q9E5x3cNw-U3eGVCAb2-YnfpkIId_DABlLHoG00u0&dib_tag=se&keywords=steve+kanji+ruhl&qid=1717966222&sprefix=steve+kanji+ruhl%2Caps%2C171&sr=8-2 Podcast Links: Website: https://jakewarinnerpodcast.com/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3kiojUxYZFyVdHOGl727jR?si=31164e616f1846a9 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jake-warinner-podcast/id1711278585 Social: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jake.warinner/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jakewarinner Timestamps: 00:00 Zen Tradition: Philosophy and Practices 03:13 The Three Modes in Zen Practice 10:01 The Concept of Bodhisattva in Zen 13:28 Perspectives on Reincarnation in Zen 29:52 Zen and Its Connection to Taoism 37:11 The Role of Scripture and Teaching Doctrine in Zen 42:46 Physical Movement Practices and the Body-Mind in Zen 47:28 Disciplined Practice and Spontaneity in Zen 51:29 The View of the Eightfold Path in Zen 55:41 Insights Into Daily Zen Practice

Joanna Kempner is a sociology professor at Rutgers University and the author of Psychedelic Outlaws, on psychedelics and cluster headache. Joanna Kempner: Website: https://www.joannakempner.com/ Book: https://www.amazon.com/Psychedelic-Outlaws-Movement-Revolutionizing-Medicine-ebook/dp/B0CLKQT4RB/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&dib_tag=se&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.8jtY98jB59-fYNNj9A-VUQ.gqkGKjg6HE20iFN63ThgsA1Fp5xtl5OwD3gjpfHaeKc&qid=1717962631&sr=8-1 Podcast Links: Website: https://jakewarinnerpodcast.com/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3kiojUxYZFyVdHOGl727jR?si=31164e616f1846a9 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jake-warinner-podcast/id1711278585 Social: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jake.warinner/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jakewarinner Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction, Psychedelic Outlaws and Cluster Headaches 00:28 - Overview of the book's main focus and Cluster Busters 00:57 - Discussion on the rarity and severity of cluster headaches 01:32 - Descriptions of the pain and frequency of cluster headaches 02:08 - Comparison to migraines and duration of attacks 02:52 - The nickname "suicide headache" and difficulty in treatment 03:39 - Misdiagnoses often associated with cluster headaches 04:11 - Gender biases and myths surrounding cluster headaches 05:09 - Historical context and gender biases in headache medicine 06:25 - Joanna's initial discovery of gender bias in cluster headaches 07:14 - Personal research and early publications on cluster headaches 07:42 - Misconceptions about the appearance of cluster headache sufferers 08:27 - Cluster headache triggers and hypotheses about its causes 09:42 - Lack of research and funding for cluster headaches 10:58 - Private funding and advocacy for migraine and headache research 11:39 - The societal impact and lack of attention to migraine and headaches 13:07 - Cluster Busters' role in developing innovative therapies 13:20 - Discussion of current treatments for cluster headaches 14:42 - Oxygen therapy and challenges in getting prescriptions 15:47 - Psychedelics as a treatment for cluster headaches 16:04 - Method of using psilocybin for cluster headache attacks 17:04 - Protocol development by Cluster Busters for preventing cycles 17:57 - Recommended dosing and safety measures for using psychedelics 19:00 - The collective self-experimentation process 19:13 - Origin of the use of psychedelics for cluster headaches 21:07 - Flash's discovery of LSD and its effects on cluster headaches 24:59 - Similarity of current protocols to initial experiments 26:37 - Practical reasons for using psilocybin over LSD 28:42 - Legal risks associated with using psychedelics 30:17 - Discussion on the classification of psychedelics as Schedule 1 31:54 - Potential changes in policy regarding psychedelics 32:36 - Obstacles in psychedelic research due 35:26 - Difficulty in recruiting for clinical trials and funding issues 36:01 - Challenges of placebo control in psychedelic studies 37:56 - Historical context of regulatory barriers in drug research 38:57 - Unique challenges in studying psychedelics for pain treatment 40:53 - Description of recent studies on psychedelics for cluster headaches 43:10 - Flash's story and the early days of Cluster Busters 44:27 - Results of recent study on psychedelics for cluster headaches 45:56 - Recruitment challenges and the impact of the pandemic 47:42 - Brain mechanisms and the hypothalamus in cluster headaches 49:25 - Future of psychedelic research in headache medicine 51:39 - Closing

Mike Jay is an author, historian, and curator who has written widely on the cultural history of science and medicine. His latest book Psychonauts: Drugs and the Making of the Modern Mind is out now. Mike Jay: Website: https://mikejay.net/ Psychonauts: https://www.amazon.com/Psychonauts-Drugs-Making-Modern-Mind/dp/B0CJCVDZVC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=31E9YAGTGOS9K&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.BHGVnBROO-AzAOyjN9yz5GxLuadVc71Tw-VASmh7TM72SH4mcXaNBqpfvwmAPveOnV4jKW0v2IapQhZcPbJ_CJLzDEp5m2y6JVTQFrV48SyduuwS32chqbiqkoakiBQ5dMZ4DbU2O-J0umkjtsVc_ZaIprOpZgonRbchF1c-hJoJE0ztc448qtdkq6fkBwU-JRpmeKd0slYmby6_GHNvhdd8sMLXqJfaQaJnP7_ddp4.Q8J7313Eqle9dZpZsjL13v7KpIrKrqxC7gHITE-0rcw&dib_tag=se&keywords=psychonauts&qid=1716319182&sprefix=psychonaut%2Caps%2C103&sr=8-4 Podcast Links: Website: https://jakewarinnerpodcast.com/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3kiojUxYZFyVdHOGl727jR?si=31164e616f1846a9 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jake-warinner-podcast/id1711278585 Social: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jake.warinner/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jakewarinner Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction, Psychonauts 02:18 The Practice of Self-Experimentation with Drugs 08:08 The Shift towards Objective and Standardized Research 16:25 The Effects and Uses of Nitrous Oxide and Hashish 28:14 Modulating Psychedelic Compounds 31:57 Potency of Lab-Made vs Plant-Based Drugs 35:16 The Peyote Ceremony and Native American Traditions 40:03 Cocaine's Impact on Culture 48:41 Legalization and Regulation of Drugs Thanks for listening!

Sarah Marshank is the founder of Selfistry, an approach to embodying timeless spiritual principles. Her book Selfistry, outlines this framework. Along with being an author, Sarah leads workshops and retreats, teaches courses, and gives consults. Sarah Marshank: Website: https://selfistry.com/meet-sarah/ Selfistry: https://www.amazon.com/Selfistry-Embodying-Timeless-Spiritual-Wisdom/dp/1662924518/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1707103203&sr=8-1 Podcast: Website: https://jakewarinnerpodcast.com/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3kiojUxYZFyVdHOGl727jR?si=31164e616f1846a9 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jake-warinner-podcast/id1711278585 Social: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jake.warinner/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jakewarinner Timestamps: 00:00 - Selfistry, Retreats 07:19 - Developing Personal Practices 13:21 - Handling Negative Thoughts and Emotions 18:09 - Integral Theory and Ken Wilber 19:34 - Evolution 24:19 - Contemplation vs. Perseveration/Ruminating 28:10 - Conditioning and Decisions 34:05 - Journaling Practices 37:01 - Social Relationships 39:12 - Art and Spirituality 42:23 - Integrating Artistry and Spiritual Practices 44:03 - Peace 49:02 - Pleasure and Pain 51:08 - Conversation 54:17 - Social Interactions and Energy 57:30 - Upcoming Episode on Politics and Spirituality Thanks for listening!

Bill Porter is the author who translates under the pen-name Red Pine. He is a translator of Chinese texts, primarily Taoist and Buddhist, including poetry and sutras. He is the author of Road to Heaven: Encounters with Chinese Hermits and won the American Academy of Arts & Letters Thornton Wilder Prize for translation in 2018. Bill Porter: Road to Heaven: Amazon.com: Road to Heaven: Encounters with Chinese Hermits: 9781582435237: Pine, Red: Books Hermits Documentary: https://youtu.be/NUr45CvvLqs?si=owFRRYB-bUIOfdo5 Podcast Links: Website: https://jakewarinnerpodcast.com/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3kiojUxYZFyVdHOGl727jR?si=31164e616f1846a9 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jake-warinner-podcast/id1711278585 Social: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jake.warinner/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jakewarinner Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction 00:38 - The Chinese hermit tradition 03:15 - Origins and history of Chinese hermits 06:45 - The influence of Taoism, Buddhism, and Confucianism on hermit culture 09:30 - The life and challenges of being a hermit 12:50 - The role of hermits in Chinese society and their interactions with locals 15:34 - How hermits live in the mountains 21:45 - Bill Porter on writing Road to Heaven 24:30 - Hermits are the happiest people 27:10 - The health and longevity of hermits 29:50 - Growth in the hermit population 32:45 - Lessons from Bill's experiences with hermits

Sam Torode is an author, translator, and musician. His books include the Tao Te Ching, Living from the Soul: The 7 Spiritual Principles of Ralph Waldo Emerson, and Dirty Parts of the Bible: A Graphic Novel. Sam Torode: Website: home (samtorode.com) Instagram: Sam Torode (@samtorode) • Instagram photos and videos Tao Te Ching: Amazon.com: Tao Te Ching eBook : Lao Tzu, Torode, Sam, Goddard, Dwight: Books Living From the Soul: Amazon.com: Living from the Soul: The 7 Spiritual Principles of Ralph Waldo Emerson: 9781671283701: Torode, Sam: Books Novel: Amazon.com: The Dirty Parts of the Bible: A Graphic Novel eBook : Torode, Sam, Ritchie, Tina: Kindle Store Podcast Links: Website: https://jakewarinnerpodcast.com/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3kiojUxYZFyVdHOGl727jR?si=31164e616f1846a9 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jake-warinner-podcast/id1711278585 Social: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jake.warinner/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jakewarinner Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction, Sam's paraphrasing and translation 03:03 - Translating the Tao Te Ching 04:39 - The influence of classical texts on personal philosophy 05:43 - Creative process in producing new editions of classic works 06:14 - Main principles derived from the Tao Te Ching 07:23 - Ralph Waldo Emerson 08:22 - Emerson's impact on self-help philosophy 10:49 - Emerson's role in founding American philosophy 14:00 - Harvard bans Emerson 15:10 - Emerson's perspective on Jesus 16:26 - Historical context and interpretation of Jesus's teachings 19:43 - Modern reception of Emerson's ideas and ongoing religious fundamentalism 23:15 - The importance of personal judgment in interpreting philosophy and religion 27:53 - Emerson and Eastern philosophy 29:27 - Emerson's approach to philosophy and self-evident truths 30:45 - Emerson's views on nature 32:03 - Relationship between mind and matter 33:49 - Materialism vs. Idealism 34:16 - Evolution, Spirituality, and Culture 42:12 - Emerson's emphasis on physical labor 45:02 - Practicing philosophy 47:35 - Personal Impact of Meditation 48:19 - Sam's upcoming projects 49:51 - Sam's creative process and development of ideas 54:17 - Where to find Sam Thanks for listening!

Raghunath Cappo is a yoga teacher, author of his memoir From Punk to Monk and co-host of the Wisdom of the Sages podcast. Raghunath Cappo: Website: https://www.raghunath.yoga/ From Punk to Monk: https://www.amazon.com/Punk-Monk-Memoir-Ray-Cappo/dp/1647228689/ref=sr_1_1?crid=24MRGUAW7QPYL&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.jy3rJ624LAaD83gW470Hjv559EpDqM8I4c4nGCG98Nc9t7jZ7FRKlqBa0xbsAOVVXUY6TU5eZP536Dzgr6tKnEc7gaILSJjw9mkm-VwKmmkpIHTyo5kwvzBtgj6vSXqnQgZq8cEo0rXdwXf11FeL9fIhlnp3da_7YXxW61uOMM83-47h-gUvzlVFDIrGvB7aNb2-1idlzcEBJQ-R9m5cKus0hOf9aTmO7JDa8hqdPCQ.ZvUYnyCEgHXQy-N8wxs3cK4mn3LXO9gdyYYD4T4DzW0&dib_tag=se&keywords=from+punk+to+monk&qid=1713825088&sprefix=from+punk+to+monk%2Caps%2C147&sr=8-1 Podcast Links: Website: https://jakewarinnerpodcast.com/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3kiojUxYZFyVdHOGl727jR?si=31164e616f1846a9 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jake-warinner-podcast/id1711278585 Timestamps: 00:00 From Punk to Monk 07:06 Exploring Spirituality, Hare Krishna Movement 13:49 Vegetarianism and Veganism 27:56 The Evolution of the Soul and the Purpose of Life 39:30 The Power of Sound: Chanting and its Impact on Consciousness Thanks for listening!

Susan Piver is a Buddhist teacher and the New York Times bestselling author of The Hard Questions, The Wisdom of a Broken Heart, Start Here Now, The Four Noble Truths of Love, and others. Her latest book is The Buddhist Enneagram. She is also the founder of the Open Heart Project, a virtual meditation community with 20,000 members all over the world. Susan Piver: Website: https://openheartproject.com/ The Buddhist Enneagram: https://www.amazon.com/Buddhist-Enneagram-Nine-Paths-Warriorship/dp/173694391X Podcast Links: Website: https://jakewarinnerpodcast.com/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3kiojUxYZFyVdHOGl727jR?si=31164e616f1846a9 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jake-warinner-podcast/id1711278585 Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction and Explanation of the Enneagram 02:08 Difference between Personality and Ways of Being 03:01 Understanding the Positive and Negative Aspects of Each Type 04:08 Using the Enneagram for Personal Growth 05:26 Finding Your Enneagram Number 06:42 Understanding Enneagram Subtypes 07:58 Complexity of the Enneagram System 10:42 The Challenge of Typing Others 13:20 Using the Enneagram for Compassionate Interactions 18:05 Transmission of the Enneagram 20:04 What Is Compassion? 23:35 The Influence of Environment on Enneagram Types 26:15 Developing Self-Awareness through Meditation and Reflection 31:05 Avoidance and Idealization in Enneagram Types 34:10 Integrating the Enneagram and Buddhist Teachings Thank you for listening!

Rob Harper is a Filmmaker, Body Psychotherapist and Shamanic Practitioner. He is the Producer/Director/Screenwriter of 'Journeys to the Edge of Consciousness' (2019) a part-animated feature documentary about three psychedelic trips that changed the world forever. Rob is a graduate of the National Film and Television School and has filmed for many of the major UK broadcasters, as well as teaching and mentoring young filmmakers at an undergraduate level. He is the founder of Hidden Depths Productions, a company dedicated to producing thought provoking films for broad audiences on complex topics of urgent human interest. He has undertaken a shamanic apprenticeship in the lineage of the Mother Goddess, and completed a six-year Body Psychotherapy training. He now works in private practice, with a particular focus on supporting men in their journeys towards healing and wholeness. Watch Journeys Here: https://www.journeysmovie.com/ Podcast Links: Website: https://jakewarinnerpodcast.com/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3kiojUxYZFyVdHOGl727jR?si=31164e616f1846a9 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jake-warinner-podcast/id1711278585 Timestamps: 00:00 Motivation to Make the Film 02:48 The Importance of Storytelling in Documentaries 06:13 The Process of Making a Film 09:21 Choosing Material for the Film 12:28 Working with Voice Actors 19:28 The First Story of Timothy Leary 23:43 Controversy Around Timothy Leary 30:12 Communicating the Psychedelic Experience 30:25 Exploring the Writings of Leary, Huxley, and Watts 32:37 The Impact of Psychedelic Controversy 33:38 Lost Research Opportunities 36:39 The Control and Suppression of Psychedelic Use 40:26 Mystical Experience and Power Structures 44:02 The Importance of Reconnecting with the Spiritual Life 48:11 Selecting Interviewees and Structuring Questions 54:34 Future Projects on Shamanism and Body Psychotherapy 57:41 How to Get in Touch with the Film Thanks for listening! Jake