Jay Dyer (33:52)
Adding so I mean, as you know, Jamie said right away, all of this stuff is sort of classic cointelpro disinformation. Mark Hackard had the same analysis. Really all it does is just discredit anyone talking about this kind of stuff. Although, you know, there's different, there's different possibilities. It could be to discredit. She could actually maybe not be all there. She might be kind of losing it. And I'm, I'm not saying this to be mean. I want to be very serious on this point. You know, we, I. A person, a friend, an acquaintance. And you know, you, you can actually have things, especially around 20s and 30s, where those are sort of the prime ages where people begin to lose, perhaps lose it with schizophrenia. And I'm not, I'm being absolutely serious. I'm not making the oh, schizo joke. I'm saying, like, you know, I've, I've known people who are young, sometimes it's late 20s, early 30s, where they just sort of have this sort of snap. And that's also a possibility. And if that's the case, you know, that's, that's sad. I don't want that. I hope that's not the case. It could be, you know, that the loss of a person very close, that could be the case as well. Or this could be, you know, intentional disinformation to gather a large audience and lead people off into nonsense just like the Q stuff was. In fact, you know, Q was based on Operation Trust, which was something that the Soviets did to root out some of the remaining White army supporters within Russia. And if you remember, people drew a lot of attention to that at the time of the qtard crap because it bore so many parallels where you have this idea, oh, actually there's a bunch of white hats in the Russian government amongst the Bolsheviks and we need to secretly know who supports them. And then they got this giant list of all of the remaining pro czarists amongst the Russians and it was all a Bolshevik scam to figure out and to get all the names of all of the remaining, you know, counter revolutionaries. So that could be going on. Not that they need to get a bunch of names from the audience or something like that. And there could be some data gathering operation going on there as well. But, you know, we've seen a few people in this sphere who begin, I mean, known people, I mean, quite a few people have kind of gone crazy from, from this kind of information. But, you know, Owen Benjamin was a person who had a very similar sort of trek where, you know, he starts to question a lot of the mainstream stories, narratives, and then it just goes off into just, just wild stuff. And we could probably think of others. Off the top of my head, I'm not sure who else kind of went in this direction, but I'm sure you could think of some. Right. And again, you know, it could be any of those. Those situations. So, I mean, I'm joking around a lot about the Wakanda stuff, because that part is actually funny. But I mean, she doesn't come off as a person who is. You know, when she does her shows and her. Her episodes, she doesn't come off as unstable. And to me, that suggests that there's not, you know, some sort of schizo type of thing going on. It's definitely the case that when you first wake up to a lot of these topics, you could go through a process of believing a lot of ridiculous things. You know, I remember when I went through this phase of first reading conspiracy stuff, and When I was 18, 19, 20, 21, you know, I came in reading stuff about Skull and Bones. In fact, I even have my. I still have some of those books. I read a bunch of critiques of the United nations, new AG type stuff. And I remember initially thinking, oh, maybe we were lied to about everything. Okay? So, you know, maybe there was. Maybe there are aliens. Maybe there was ancient civilizations with high technology. Right. So you kind of go through some of these ideas, oh, what. What if Atlantis was, you know, real and. And it was this advanced civilization and, you know, we were. It was hidden. But I think a lot of times what happens to people as they mature, you start to realize after a few years, okay, that the people especially that promote most of that stuff, their kooks, crooks and spooks. Right. You start to notice the patterns of bullshit, you know, con men, deception, scammers, grifters. And eventually it kind of. You kind of grow out of it. Right. Is she grifting to the conspirators? I mean, all things are. Pos. Are possible. You know, that could be possible, too. She again, seems to have figured out the. The secret of crafting the narrative of the giant conspiracy where you're at the center of it. Right. And that also could suggest, you know, sort of psychological issues too. Right. Because what happens with schizophrenia? And I'm not an expert, obviously, on it. I'm just giving my sort of armchair take. But I've watched a lot of documentaries. I've read some books on schizophrenia, and my assessment is. Is just simply that. And by the way, Father Dean, one of his good friends when he was young, and they're still friendly, but he has a good friend who became schizophrenic. And what. What is a. A common theme is that everything that's Happening is ultimately revolving around you. So. And I understand people that are schizophrenic can be victims. I'm not trying to castigate them in some negative moral sense. But what happens is they think that everything that's happening because they're at the center of the world. All of the things that are happening, whether it's the license plate with a coded message or whether it' you know, the people standing behind them in the grocery store, like everything that's happening is all about them. The songs that come on the radio are messages geared towards them or you know, the family members that are trying to help them are secretly working with, you know, the, the agents to undermine them and to drive them crazy. And you know, you see this, for example, in the so called targeted individual community. And I've done a lot of research on that. I've watched a lot of documentaries on that. I'd say probably five, maybe even 10 documentaries on that stuff. Because remember, the target individual stuff was very popular 10 years ago in the conspiracy world. And as you get into that and study it, what you realize is that, well, no, wait a minute. So these are people who many cases, in many cases have actual mental problems and they're living out of their car, they're living on the streets, living in a van down by the river, literally. And, and what doesn't really ever click with them is that they, it doesn't. There's no need for that person to be the focus of all of the world's attention.
