Candace Crashout, Disinformation, ​Wakanda Time Travel Matrix: B-DAY STREAM!!!! PEAK INSANITY!

Summary

Jay'sAnalysis: “Candace Crashout, Disinformation, Wakanda Time Travel Matrix: B-DAY STREAM!!!! PEAK INSANITY!”

Host: Jay Dyer
Guests/Callers: Various, including The Quartering
Date: January 17, 2026

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Episode Overview

This raucous “best of” Jay Dyer birthday stream explores the recent explosion of “conspiracy insanity” around conservative influencer Candace Owens’ turn toward extreme online theories — involving time travel, ancient Sumerian technology, disinformation psy-ops, “Wakanda” consciousness expansion, and more. Jay oscillates between biting satire, critique, and genuine concern as he analyzes Candace’s claims, the cult-like behavior of her followers, and the general state of “post-truth” media. Between the chaos are major riffs on cults of personality, logical fallacies, targeted individuals, disinformation operations, and the infiltration of conspiracies by intelligence agencies. The episode is marked by Jay's signature mix of humor, sharp critique, and layered references, jumping from high-level theory to absurd pop culture metaphors.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Parody & Satire of Guru/Conspiracy Culture

• Timestamp: 00:35 – 09:47
• Jay opens with an absurdist riff on cult gurus, “energy vampires,” and the hypocrisy of leaders demanding communal living while enjoying luxury (“How many swamis got a dang Rolls Royce?”).
• Launches into playful and surreal “cringe core” song parodies about “Mormon space wives” and “magic underwear,” lampooning religious and crypto-conspiracy culture.

“Often times the communal living that the guru demands doesn't match up to the guru who's driving around in a freaking Rolls Royce. What? … That's that Booger whistlebank.”
— Jay Dyer (01:41)

2. Candace Owens’ Descent into “Quantum Foam” Conspiracy

• Timestamp: 12:51 – 21:31
• Jay transitions into the main critique: Candace Owens is now promoting wild theories involving quantum foam, Sumerian technology, CIA time travel, and more.
• He riffs on the constant escalation of conspiracy narratives and how algorithm-driven media replaces “reality” with whatever gets the most attention.

“You gotta watch the Matrix, Inception, the New Mutants, Black Panther, AKA Wakanda. And what else we gotta watch? … Because Erica Kirk is a Cylon.”
— Jay Dyer (21:31)

3. Breakdown of Time Travel & Sumerian Tech Claims

• Timestamp: 23:55 – 33:09
• Jay plays and breaks down Candace’s claims about “Project Looking Glass” (CIA using Sumerian technology to manipulate timelines).
• Mocks the idea that tech “stopped working” in 2012 (tying in the Mayan calendar meme) and the growing postmodern trend toward narrative creation over objective reality.

“That technology stopped working in 2012. That's why the Mayan calendar stopped. Did you? Duh.”
— Jay Dyer (24:34)

• Discusses the psychological and sociological mechanisms behind these beliefs, comparing them to “targeted individual” mentalities.

4. Disinformation Operations & Cointelpro

• Timestamp: 33:52 – 56:10
• Jay analyzes the Candace phenomenon through a disinformation lens, referencing Operation Trust and how intelligence operations manipulate and discredit dissident movements by flooding zones with absurdity.
• Compares Candace’s trajectory to “QTARD” (QAnon) behaviour, noting the “unfalsifiability” of her/their theories.

“Operation Trust … the Soviets did to root out some of the remaining White army supporters … [by] getting a giant list … It could be intentional disinformation to gather a large audience and lead people off into nonsense just like the Q stuff was.”
— Jay Dyer (approx. 36:40)

5. Cult Mindset & Charismatic Delusion

• Timestamp: 54:25 – 62:07
• Jay draws parallels between Candace’s followers and religious cults, explaining the psychology behind “everything happens because of me” and linking this to charismatic Catholicism.

“There's this charismatic element… another reason this is so… It's, It's irrational… All charismatic crap does is just create atheism.”
— Jay Dyer (51:10)

• Calls for basic education in logical fallacies: “If you learn the informal fallacies, do you know how many stupid things you would avoid?”

6. Open Calls, Community Absurdity, and More Satire

• Timestamp: 62:07 – 79:38
• The episode opens up for calls: topics range from time travel and sportsball, to epistemology and “Mormon space wives.”
• Jay and guests continue their surreal riffing, interspersed with more serious engagement regarding epistemology, cult thinking, and mental health.
• They openly mock callers identifying as “time travelers,” give out joke “race passes,” and reference Parliament-Funkadelic's "mothership connection" paralleling next-level conspiracy episodes.

7. Disinformation by Flooding & Postmodern Media Surrealism

• Timestamp: 79:38 – 95:00
• Jay discusses how the social media landscape now incentivizes extremity for viral attention.

“Post-truth … the way that media is now operating is fully surrealist. … There is no reality other than the reality that's given to you through the alternative media, which is now the real media. … It is just batshit crazy.”
— Jay Dyer (45:34)

• Explains simulacra and simulation, referencing Baudrillard: whoever controls the wildest narrative now controls “reality.”

8. Critiques from The Quartering and More Listeners

• Timestamp: 135:53 – End
• Stream regular The Quartering calls in, bantering with Jay about Candace’s ever-wilder claims, bot-pumped engagement, and the likely end scenario (possible lawsuit, needing ever-wilder content for views).

“Every new theory has to get even more insane … like a heroin addict chasing the dragon.”
— The Quartering (143:41)

• More callers discuss people “catching up” on old conspiracies, the difficulty of escaping delusional thinking once invested, and the co-option of truth media spaces.

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Memorable Quotes

• On escalating conspiracy content:

  “The one that's the most outlandish and fringe is the one that's the most popular now. So basically we're at this post truth phase.”
  — Jay Dyer (45:34)

• On Operation Trust and disinfo:

  “Q was based on Operation Trust...It bore so many parallels...it was all a Bolshevik scam to get all the names of all of the remaining...counter revolutionaries.”
  — Jay Dyer (36:40)

• On intuitive “truth-seeking”:

  “An intuitive sense and feeling is the worst guide in some of these arenas.”
  — Jay Dyer (56:10)

• Mocking Candace’s metaphysical claims:

  “She’s got the time dimensional matrix powers where she can see through the time matrix matrix ... If you didn't know the gate program, I was actually in the gate program. ... and I can confirm to you today. Yes, it is a full Wakanda Yakubian project that the CIA stole from the Sumerians.”
  — Jay Dyer (21:31)

• Summarizing the audience dynamic:

  “They’re sunken cost. They've already invested in this nonsense and defended it for the last six months. So they gotta keep defending it — and, ‘Oh, it's just rhetoric. She didn't mean it.’”
  — Jay Dyer (91:47)

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Thematic Highlights

A. The Candace Phenomenon: Grift, Psyop, or Breakdown?

• Jay considers possible explanations for Candace’s descent: psychological break, deliberate disinformation, or just cashing in on the audience “black hole” for conspiratainment.

B. Logic & Post-Truth Culture

• The stream is a passionate call for education in logic and reasoning: “basic logic to live in the world and succeed,” not just to win internet arguments.

C. The Dangers of Unfalsifiable Theories

• Jay and his co-hosts deconstruct the self-reinforcing logic of conspiracy movements: every refutation is just evidence of further conspiracy.

D. Satire as Critique

• Jay’s relentless satire, call-ins from self-described “time travelers,” and references to pop culture (Matrix, X-Men, Battlestar Galactica, Parliament Funkadelic) serve to demonstrate how online disinformation culture blurs fact and fiction.

E. Targeted Individuals, Schizophrenia, & the Cult of “Being Watched”

• The psychology of believing you're at the center of a grand plot — and how conspiracy culture preys on that sensitivity.

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Notable Segment Timestamps

• 00:35-09:47 – Cult guru parody, “Mormon space wives” comedy songs
• 12:51-21:31 – Setting up Candace’s "time matrix" narrative and criticizing the viral nature of extreme conspiracy
• 23:55-26:34 – Candace’s Project Looking Glass/Sumerian ancient tech explained and mocked
• 33:52-41:32 – Mental health, cults, “targeted individuals,” and the danger of believing everything is about you
• 45:34-56:10 – Analysis of post-truth, simulacra, and the viral appeal of wild narrative creation
• 70:59-73:22 – Unfalsifiable conspiracy logic laid bare
• 135:53-139:05 – The Quartering calls in, discusses the escalation of Candace's content
• 143:41 – "Chasing the dragon": The need to up the absurdity for sustained engagement

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Episode Tone & Style

• Tone: Chaotic, irreverent, satirical, but underpinned with real concern about truth, logic, and mass delusion.
• Style: Rapid-fire satire, interwoven with serious philosophical, theological, and psychological analysis. Heavy use of pop-cultural references and inside jokes. Frequent parody songs/skits.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is a fast, funny, and sometimes scathing tour through the modern conspiracy media landscape — using Candace Owens’ “crashout” into time travel and Sumerian tech as a case study for the escalation of viral madness in a post-truth, surreality-obsessed culture. Jay Dyer and guests deftly expose how both grift and genuine psychosis thrive online, how audiences entrench around unfalsifiable narratives, and why logic and humility are needed now more than ever — all while keeping things wild, musical, and meta.

If you want a blend of biting comedy, cultural criticism, and philosophical real talk about the state of the “truth movement,” this episode is essential listening.

Transcript

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[Jay Dyer]

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Y' all ready for open calls? Marion. Sumerian tech with CIA I've got CIA tech from ancient Sumeria. I've been debating nephilims and I feel good tonight. All right, that's enough cringe core for the moment. Welcome, everybody, to my happy birthday party. It's your birthday we gonna party like it's your birthday. I'm getting the 50 Cent song and the 2 Chain song mixed up. All I want for my birthday is a All I want for my birthday is a big booty hoe. That's my birthday song. All I want for my birthday is big booty hoes. I'm just kidding. I'm married to Jamie. I'm very happy with Jamie. Don't need no big booty hoes. Although we're gonna be talking about the fifth dimensional time matrix in the consciousness expansion. Living in an intentional community, son. That's right. If you didn't know the gay program was out there scouting boys like Corley Charlie Kirk. And they scouted him out because they had a. A time dimensional mainframe matrix visualizer. And they looked into the future and they said, this boy right here, he can affect the quantum foam. If we let this boy live, the quantum foam going to get all screwed up. And the Yakubians would come to power. And the CIA was like, hell no. Hell no. We ain't letting that happen. They called up Mossads and they called up bbs and they said, what's the best means by which we could take out Chorley Court? And they came up with the perfect plan. The Egyptian planes track him for many years, robot agents figure out with together with their robot Cylon wife. Y' all remember the Cylons, huh? Exactly. You remember that one blonde Cylon? Y' all know the one I'm talking about? The one that everybody thought was hot? Excuse me, that's Erica Kirk right there. That's the blonde Cylon. Remember she was up in what's his face's head at one point. Let's just let me show y' all because look, one of the. One of the guys on Twitter said, this chick right here, remember her? One of the guys on Twitter, Pointer. He figured it out. He said, I know everything about Candace's theories because I know the movies and the TV shows. She just watched. She just watched Matrix and then she watched Inception and then she came up with this week's episode of Oprah's Greatest. I mean, Candace's Greatest conspiracies. Okay? And by the way, didn't I say exactly what would happen next week? It'll be the next crazy conspiracy. So the real question is, when is Yakub coming in? When are we going to go full Wakanda? That's what I'm waiting for. Well, I mean, we are just now at. If you got a curve, right, you got a curve of bell curve of conspiracy madness. We're just now at sort of the upper, upper, you know, zenith of the bell curve. When we hit the Charlie Kirk quantum phone time dimension matrix. That's where we just hit. Okay, we're not yet to the apex up here. When we get to full on Yakubian Nephilims, Wagartha. I mean, that's where we're going. That's where it's going now. Guess what? All of the tards are still calling me a shill. I had hundreds of comments all over. I, I, I should have. They were pissing me off. So I just deleted a bunch of them, blocked them because they were so stupid. I should have saved him because I should have read them. We should dissect all the stupidity in these replies and the logic that they have. I'm telling you right now. Basically, the replies are. You believe all the official stories because you're not following Candace. What? All right, what? Oh, you're a Zionist. No, I'm not. I was a conspiracy theorist 15 years before Candace was 20 years before. What are you even talking about? Out. It's just nonsense. Total nonsense. Do we're past Planet X, okay? We're full on. Look, this is Erica Kirk right here. The blonde Cylon. Remember her, by the way? Didn't she say something like there's robot agents? I mean, she was already saying kind of wild stuff a while back. This is Erica Kirk right here. Look. That's her. That's a Cylon. Erica Kirk. Look. Look just like her, too. The Mormons were coding it inside of Battlestar Galactica. What they was actually doing with the gate program, which is actually the MK Ultra New Mutants program. Y' all seen New Mutants? You know what I'm talking about? Okay, I'm talking about Anya Tyler Joyce, okay, in the New Mutants. And what happens in New Mutants? Oh, she gets recruited because they saw Professor X seen into the 3D time dimensional mainframe matrix, and he saw ahead that Charlie. Charlie Kirk, just like Anya Taylor Joy was going to be a superhero of the future, which would challenge the quantum time foam matrix. Y' all think I'm being crazy? Wait till you hear the clips. Now, this is what y' all are calling me out. A veteran of the conspiracy disinformation analysis arena, awake to all of this stuff way before most of y'. All. Y'. All. Y' all still in your poopy pants. When I was reading Oswald Spangler and Zbigniew Brzezinski. But now, again, all of the soccer moms and the Karens and the morons are experts on everything to do with conspiracies. And they will follow her to oblivion. Dude, the next next week, when we go full Wakanda, they're gonna quadruple down. Yes, absolutely. Candace really did discover Wakanda. And why is BB Paying you to deny her shilling. I. I mean I. There were comments on my community post on YouTube. I just could not believe in my audience. How can my audience be so dumb? Now let's cross our fingers and hope that those weren't actually from my audience. They just happened to see. I begged them please unfollow this channel. Do not follow this channel. You sir the belief just go. Go be dumb dude. By the way, I think she. She's becoming the new George Nori, right? Hey folks, welcome to coast to coast George story. Coast to coast, Planet X and the Nibiru. She's now she went full George Nori dude. She's full coast to co. From the windows to the coasts. Tell all these Candace fall she's coast to coast now. So yeah, so it's new mutants. Literally. She's X men. Charlie Kirk is a X men. And I'm not kidding if you watch New mutants.

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[Jay Dyer]

My Amex Blue cash everyday card is my go to accessory. When I shop I can earn 3% cash back on U. S online retail purchases. Try on the Blue cash everyday card. Learn more at americanexpress.com Explore-BCE terms and cash back cap apply. She's got the time dimensional matrix powers where she can see through the time matrix matrix. Because in the story she was messed with as a child and this trauma caused her X men superpowers. So they took her over here to Professor X's gate program school. If you didn't know the gate program, I was actually in the gate program. I know about it firsthand and I can confirm to you today. Yes, it is a full Wakanda Yakubian project that the CIA stole from the Sumerians. So that Professor X, AKA who? Let's see, who's Professor X? You and Cameron, Jolly and West. I gotta figure who in the BB Netanyahu was training up his best American Mossad moles inside of the CIA, right? Like Anya, Taylor, Joy and like Charlie Toraly Cork. Okay, this was the master plan. It's all out here now. And it's. It's a exposed. Dude, it's exposed. It's over. It's over for the cryptocracy, okay? So you gotta. If you want to understand what's going on, okay, you gotta watch the Matrix, Inception, the New Mutants, Black Panther, AKA Wakanda. And what else we gotta watch? Trying to. What other? Oh, Battlestar Galactica. Because of the Cylons, because Erica Kirk is a Cylon. Oh, by the way, her name is Magic. I forgot that her character is M A G I K. Magic. So that's what's actually going on. And if. If you doubt me, allow me to set you straight, son. Okay, let's play this little. Little crit right here. Let's play the clip right here, right here.

[Caller/Guest]

Or I'll save it for tomorrow. But this project Looking Glass in the CIA, I wonder what they saw looking into the future. Stealing not Egyptian but Sumerian technology, which is what they did. These are culture vultures. These. These Egypties is what they are. They wear whatever mask they need to. They have to. Do I have to pretend to be Catholic? Do I pretend to be Jewish? Do I have to be Muslim? No, they just. They're. They're thieves. They're glorified thieves is what these people are. And they've always been this since the beginning of history. And they stole some Sumerian technology that allowed them to predict outcomes. And that technology stopped working in 2012.

[Jay Dyer]

It got even crazier than I. Than I actually remembered. The Sumerian tech, dude, the batteries ran out and we don't have those kind of batteries no more. You can't just make an ancient Sumerian time portal. Vision screen battery, at rate. You can't go get that at Radio Shack. You can't go get that at Best Buy. You gotta have the recipe, okay? And that's stored somewhere in Wakanda, I think. So we're screwed, okay? Because that technology stopped working in 2012. That's why the Mayan calendar stopped. Did you? Duh. That's the Sumerian Mayan calendar that stopped working in 2012. And a lot of y' all are just too dumb to get this. You just can't get it now. There's a longer clip. I gotta find out. Let's find the longer clip. I think I sent that one to your boy Tristana. Let's see. Let's see where that one is. Yeah, here it is. Okay, here's the longer clip. We gotta hear the whole thing here. This is the truth about to come out, dog. Truth about to come out. They scared of the truth and, you know, then paid shields like Alex Jones and Jay Dyer and quartering and all of these paid shills. We're getting paid in Mossad coin. I'm getting paid in straight shekel coin, dog. Every time I mention candace, I get 7,000 Mossad coin cryptos right there. That Sumerian smoke detector about to start chirping, son. It's about to start chirping. Okay, wait a minute. Where's the clip? Here we go. Let's watch the. We gotta watch the full clip. I don't even know why I send things to Tristana. He don't even.

[Caller/Guest]

He just really think he was.

[Jay Dyer]

He retired, so he basically retired. Are y' all ready for the real truth? Can y' all handle it? Can y' all handle the. The Sumerian Wakandan Yakubian 16th dimensional time matrix, quantum shift parallel zone theory organizer technology? I don't think a lot of y' all are ready for it, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna blow your mind right now because this is. This is where it's at. Don't listen to Jay Dyer. Don't listen to Andrew Wilson, who critiqued her. Stephen Crowder, who accurately critiqued her. Alex Jones accurately critiqued her. Nick Fuentes actually critiqued her. Everybody accurately critiqued this nonsense. Jamie. Even Jamie did a long time ago. Well, Jamie had other critiques, but Tristan was critiquing this stuff. Basically everybody I know was like, well, wait a minute. So, you know, as you guys know, I didn't have any set animosities or I was neutral on Candace for a long time. And about a month ago, I started listening and diving in on the regular to the planes stuff. So I hopped in at this. At the. The soap opera episodes of season two about the planes. And we have just gone full coast to coast. Dude, we're full Nibiru. What's an old conspiracy we gotta dig up? I mean, we got cern. Cern's back. All right, let's hear this full clip. Because y' all don't people. So you made this up? You didn't watch the full show? I don't need to watch the full show if it's this dude. Like, I'm. I'm done. Fun. I already watched enough full shows to see that this is info. And I told you that. And you all just laughed and said, aha. Dire's jealous. The moms are saying I'm jealous? Yes. That's the only reason I would ever oppose or critique anyone purely. It's only out of jealousy. Ten years ago, when I made the videos critiquing Jordan Peterson. It's only because you're jealous. You're just jealous. That's the only reason ever. Correct? Yes. Thank you for reading my people in the chat. What is cern? Are you serious? Sid, you should know what CERN is. CERN is the Sumerian portal dimensional time technology that the elites stole from the mother cultures. Because they're just vampires. That's what they do.

[Caller/Guest]

Okay, traveler, he said, as I showed you in early, why now?

[Jay Dyer]

I kid you not. Now, the people that were defending all of this nonsense in the comments, one of the defenses is. You do realize that it's actually Charlie Kirk that said he was a time traveler. Okay, I don't care who said it. It's dumb. Like, as if that's a. Oh, well, Charlie said it. I mean, I guess, you know, I, I, it's true, right? Because Charlie's, I mean, that's. First of all, I'm not sure that that is true. I don't have any reason to believe that. But even if it is true, it's like, so what? That base makes it more ridiculous. All right? And so here I'm so jealous because, I mean, I would just say all this if I didn't care about what was true, right? I mean, I could have gone full Planet X. Sam. I could have been a normie Matt, frag pop apologist. So no, I'm not spouting anything out of popularity, or else I was muted there. Or else I would have, I would have just been saying nonsense like planet Nibiro. 10, 15 years ago, I would have said evolution's true. 10, 15 years ago, I would have just gone along with whatever's popular if it was only about being popular. Traveler.

[Caller/Guest]

Did Charlie think he was a time traveler? He said, as I showed you in earlier messages, that he was a time traveler and he had to find me. Is that just something people are saying to their homies and text messages? And again, what.

[Jay Dyer]

Charlie said in his text messages, he's a time traveler and he has to find. She's on a damn mystical soap opera, love quest. That's like multi, Multiverse. She's in a multiverse soap opera, love quest. And by the way, there is some, some soap opera show like this. I just saw it pop up on Amazon the other day on Amazon Prime. It's like there's some show where a girl goes back in time and it's like Quantum Leap, but like with a chick trying to find lover, her lover lost in the time dimensional matrix. And I'm like what? But did Candace watch that show too? Is that what she watched? I forget the name of it. If y' all in the chat have watched that. I don't, I don't know what. It's just like some Amazon show or something.

[Caller/Guest]

Not anything that I would have placed so much emphasis on back when he was saying it.

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[Caller/Guest]

It came to fruition the other parts he did die young. Why did he think that him dying young was necessary in order to change things? He did die young. It is related Turning Point USA in some way or another, at the very least we could all agree it's related to him speaking.

[Jay Dyer]

Adding so I mean, as you know, Jamie said right away, all of this stuff is sort of classic cointelpro disinformation. Mark Hackard had the same analysis. Really all it does is just discredit anyone talking about this kind of stuff. Although, you know, there's different, there's different possibilities. It could be to discredit. She could actually maybe not be all there. She might be kind of losing it. And I'm, I'm not saying this to be mean. I want to be very serious on this point. You know, we, I. A person, a friend, an acquaintance. And you know, you, you can actually have things, especially around 20s and 30s, where those are sort of the prime ages where people begin to lose, perhaps lose it with schizophrenia. And I'm not, I'm being absolutely serious. I'm not making the oh, schizo joke. I'm saying, like, you know, I've, I've known people who are young, sometimes it's late 20s, early 30s, where they just sort of have this sort of snap. And that's also a possibility. And if that's the case, you know, that's, that's sad. I don't want that. I hope that's not the case. It could be, you know, that the loss of a person very close, that could be the case as well. Or this could be, you know, intentional disinformation to gather a large audience and lead people off into nonsense just like the Q stuff was. In fact, you know, Q was based on Operation Trust, which was something that the Soviets did to root out some of the remaining White army supporters within Russia. And if you remember, people drew a lot of attention to that at the time of the qtard crap because it bore so many parallels where you have this idea, oh, actually there's a bunch of white hats in the Russian government amongst the Bolsheviks and we need to secretly know who supports them. And then they got this giant list of all of the remaining pro czarists amongst the Russians and it was all a Bolshevik scam to figure out and to get all the names of all of the remaining, you know, counter revolutionaries. So that could be going on. Not that they need to get a bunch of names from the audience or something like that. And there could be some data gathering operation going on there as well. But, you know, we've seen a few people in this sphere who begin, I mean, known people, I mean, quite a few people have kind of gone crazy from, from this kind of information. But, you know, Owen Benjamin was a person who had a very similar sort of trek where, you know, he starts to question a lot of the mainstream stories, narratives, and then it just goes off into just, just wild stuff. And we could probably think of others. Off the top of my head, I'm not sure who else kind of went in this direction, but I'm sure you could think of some. Right. And again, you know, it could be any of those. Those situations. So, I mean, I'm joking around a lot about the Wakanda stuff, because that part is actually funny. But I mean, she doesn't come off as a person who is. You know, when she does her shows and her. Her episodes, she doesn't come off as unstable. And to me, that suggests that there's not, you know, some sort of schizo type of thing going on. It's definitely the case that when you first wake up to a lot of these topics, you could go through a process of believing a lot of ridiculous things. You know, I remember when I went through this phase of first reading conspiracy stuff, and When I was 18, 19, 20, 21, you know, I came in reading stuff about Skull and Bones. In fact, I even have my. I still have some of those books. I read a bunch of critiques of the United nations, new AG type stuff. And I remember initially thinking, oh, maybe we were lied to about everything. Okay? So, you know, maybe there was. Maybe there are aliens. Maybe there was ancient civilizations with high technology. Right. So you kind of go through some of these ideas, oh, what. What if Atlantis was, you know, real and. And it was this advanced civilization and, you know, we were. It was hidden. But I think a lot of times what happens to people as they mature, you start to realize after a few years, okay, that the people especially that promote most of that stuff, their kooks, crooks and spooks. Right. You start to notice the patterns of bullshit, you know, con men, deception, scammers, grifters. And eventually it kind of. You kind of grow out of it. Right. Is she grifting to the conspirators? I mean, all things are. Pos. Are possible. You know, that could be possible, too. She again, seems to have figured out the. The secret of crafting the narrative of the giant conspiracy where you're at the center of it. Right. And that also could suggest, you know, sort of psychological issues too. Right. Because what happens with schizophrenia? And I'm not an expert, obviously, on it. I'm just giving my sort of armchair take. But I've watched a lot of documentaries. I've read some books on schizophrenia, and my assessment is. Is just simply that. And by the way, Father Dean, one of his good friends when he was young, and they're still friendly, but he has a good friend who became schizophrenic. And what. What is a. A common theme is that everything that's Happening is ultimately revolving around you. So. And I understand people that are schizophrenic can be victims. I'm not trying to castigate them in some negative moral sense. But what happens is they think that everything that's happening because they're at the center of the world. All of the things that are happening, whether it's the license plate with a coded message or whether it' you know, the people standing behind them in the grocery store, like everything that's happening is all about them. The songs that come on the radio are messages geared towards them or you know, the family members that are trying to help them are secretly working with, you know, the, the agents to undermine them and to drive them crazy. And you know, you see this, for example, in the so called targeted individual community. And I've done a lot of research on that. I've watched a lot of documentaries on that. I'd say probably five, maybe even 10 documentaries on that stuff. Because remember, the target individual stuff was very popular 10 years ago in the conspiracy world. And as you get into that and study it, what you realize is that, well, no, wait a minute. So these are people who many cases, in many cases have actual mental problems and they're living out of their car, they're living on the streets, living in a van down by the river, literally. And, and what doesn't really ever click with them is that they, it doesn't. There's no need for that person to be the focus of all of the world's attention.

Right?

If you're a homeless veteran and you're living in a van down by the river, the government doesn't need you. The government is not, not all about you and obsessed with you. Right? So, and again, I understand this can happen in a, to people without something malicious or that. I'm not saying they necessarily do anything morally wrong. But what I'm saying is Candace is gangstalking me. That's funny. What can happen is that they, when they have a break or when they have a pro, this schizophrenic type of problem, they just immediately interpret everything as something coming at them or undermining them. So they can't really help it. It. But as we, as I said, like if you watch a lot of the documentaries of the people that, that believe they're target individuals or whatever, a lot of times people that are more grounded and down to earth, like they try to reason with them and, and they'll say stuff like it's the same type of approach. For example, they see Dr. Phil take with people that have really extreme delusions. And I mean, I'm not saying that like Dr. Phil is like the, the, the answer to all these. I'm just saying like you can, if you watch a lot, a lot of the episodes of Dr. Phil, it's pretty interesting because you know, he likes to have on these absolutely just sort of delusional people. And what he'll usually ask them is like, you know, is it possible, is it possible that you're not being targeted by the government? Is it possible that you're not God? Right. And a lot of times the people don't even think that way, right? So he kind of interjects just the seed of doubt. And I think that's probably a nice method, you know, for dealing with that kind of stuff rather than. Because if you try to debate them and be combative, they're just immediately going to get defensive because it's very similar to a cult mindset, right? People that are sort of trapped in cults or in cult mindsets, if you study that, they're going to get very defensive when you try to question it. And you'll notice the same thing with all of the followers of this, of this Candace phenomenon. They are rabid cult like people. So. Yeah, and last point I wanted to mention on the, on the targeted individuals is like, like most of the stuff that a targeted individual would think, you know, oh, it's, well, it's part of MK Ultra and well, okay, but MK Ultra is way beyond needing to study a veteran living in a van down by the river. Okay? That's the stuff they were doing in the 40s and 50s. Okay, they don't need to do that anymore. When MK Ultra, even in the late 70s, had basically transitioned into biometrics, WSECU.

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[Jay Dyer]

So that stuff is, that's old school. Stuff that's 60, 70 years ago. Stuff that's not needed anymore. And it just doesn't make sense why, you know, people living in a van down by the river are the target of giant government operations. Now, is it possible that the government could steal homeless people and experiment them on. Yeah, that's possible, right? I'm not saying that that's not possible, but it's more likely, it's far more likely that those people are having, having mental problems, suffering a mental break. Many of those people are on drugs. Many of those people have lost their jobs and their lives because they're on drugs. In fact, one of the documentaries on the targeted individuals was about a woman who had gotten addicted to, I forget what, meth or something. She lost her job and then she ended up living out of her car. And she basically had crafted this whole narrative to cover up for her own lack of responsibility for maintaining her job because of her meth addiction. And I think, and as you watch the documentary, I think it was one of the Vice documentaries on Target individual. As you watch it, you can eventually start to realize that it's like, okay, well this is actually about something else. Now in the case of Candace, who knows? Could be. You know, I don't, I don't have a whole lot of knowledge about like her real relationship with Charlie or whatever, but I mean, she could have had, had. Maybe she had a crush on Charlie. Maybe she felt like, you know, she really should have been with Charlie. And, you know, she's the one that's peering through the time dimensional matrix to meet her twin flame, you know, soul mate. Because it's, it's, it's sounding more like that freaking Amazon Prime TV show. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? There's like a, there's a TV show, a series where some woman like, like goes through time, Quantum Leap type stuff, and tries to find and connect with her soulmate. Right. I mean, it's. But it's like, this is where we are with this. And again, there's been a couple sort of large social media profiles, and I've seen a handful of orthodox profiles that have been like, okay, yeah, Jay, you were right. Yeah. Or, yeah, this was, you know, nonsense. But for the most part, like, people are just, just quadrupling down. And to me, that says we're at the point where we're, we're post truth and all the influencers are basically crafting their own brand of conspiracy. At a long conversation with Scooter the other day, and, and he was basically lamenting the exact same point. He's like, basically it's now your own brand to create your conspiracy story. And then you try to sell everybody on that one. And really it's like, like the one that's the most outlandish and fringe is the one that's the most popular now. So basically we're at this post truth phase. I don't believe reality is actually post truth. I'm saying that the way that media is now operating is fully surrealist. It's fully, you know, simulacra. This, the simulacra. And simulation B talks about like, that's the reality now. There is no reality other than the reality that's given to you through now the alternative media, which is now the real media. Because way more people watch Candace than are going to watch, you know, boomer media. This is the new media. This is the new mainstream media. And it is just batshit crazy. It's. I can't believe it. I mean, I can, but I can't. And I think really you have to understand things like postmodernism and you have to understand things like, like, and why do I say postmodernism? I'm not just trying to be, you know, like B grade Jordan Peterson here. I'm saying postmodernism believes that not only that, there's no grand myths like the Enlightenment, right? The Enlightenment is its own sort of universalized progress myth. But postmodernism and after people like Nietzsche and others, like, there's no longer a grand narrative. The grand narratives have been deconstructed. Well, if there's no longer grand narratives, then what's the postmodern approach? You create the narrative and you get the biggest following. And if you control the narrative, that is reality. Now, simulacra and simulation, that becomes reality. Oh, my gosh, why are you. And then people in the chat are coming here promoting the most ridiculous retards. Jason Jorgan. Yeah, the guy that says that the gods are aliens. Just get out of here, man.

[Caller/Guest]

Just.

[Jay Dyer]

I just can't. I can't do it anymore. There's too many retards out here. Just everywhere. It's Attack of the Tards, dude.

[Caller/Guest]

A campus event for Turning Point usa. I'm totally occupied by this. I tell you. I read these messages and I'm going, what is this? What is reality? Actually.

[Jay Dyer]

Okay, here we go. Yeah, we got black, we got quain metaphysics out here. Allow me to lecture you on metaphysics, okay? I'm not just a lawyer and a media and assassination expert and a geopolitics expert now, by the way, I am a metaphysics expert. Okay? That's all you need to know. And y' all just hush your mouth and listen because the queen speaks.

[Caller/Guest]

And Charlie died. Yes, like I said, it was related to this organization.

[Jay Dyer]

Oh, remember, too, another thing that. That's very common if you watch her show, and as she's pointed out many times in the last several weeks, is another reason that she knows all this is true is because she prayed and felt it on Marian feast days. I kid you not. It's not just dreams. This is charismatic Catholic. This is why we tell you and warn you so often. I sit here warning you, you constantly about the problems of charismatic crap. Charismatic nonsense, pure delusion. Absolute looney Tunes delusion. And it creates atheists. All charismatic crap does is just create atheism. And so she listens to her. Her mystical feelings and senses that she has on Marian feast days. So that must be Mary giving her grace to know that this truth, this is true. I kid you not. So there's this charismatic element going on in the background, too, which is another reason this is so. It's. It's irrational. It's nothing to do with objective truth and judging these things by, say, divine revelation. But as I warned two years ago, I did multiple streams. I said, she's making a huge mistake becoming Roman Catholic. Catholic. Did I not tell you that? I told you multiple live streams for hours saying she's. Why is she making this stupid mistake going Roman Catholic? This is a huge mistake. Once again, I'm vindicated because Roman Catholicism promotes this intuitive histrionic, especially for women and the women saints. So if Margaret Mary Ale can have Jesus telling her to carve Jesus's name into her chest to cut herself up. And if Jesus is giving circumcision rings of his foreskin to other Roman Catholic women saints, I'm not joking. That's the actual view. Why can't Candace be getting intuitive zaps from the Theotokos telling her what's true? I mean, why not? Taylor Marshall has visions of Mary and the engorged milkers, which is the true church still existing within the Roman Catholic Church. And you idiots continue to follow these retards. What is wrong with you people? Is there anything that would happen that could happen to actually make you realize that this is like, literally, is there anything? I actually think. No. I think if Candace tells you to all move to Wakanda, sell your. Your belongings and move to Wakanda because the CIA can't. Can't get you there, I think a bunch of you retards would actually sell your belongings and try to move to Wakanda of. That's. That's where you guys are. All right, so this dude's about to get booted again. This topic. This is like magnet topic here. This. This topic just brings out pure. That's it. If you want the. In your chat that talk about this. Because they're here, buddy, and they're ready to go. All right, let's finish this quote. I'm gonna open it up.

[Caller/Guest]

And I think we. We would all agree that his death and the manner that they did it changed the world in ways that I don't think we. We can fully realize, or I are certainly not in a way that I can articulate. You just cannot pretend that all of this is one big unhappy coincidence. It's entirely plausible, I think, plausible that they knew something about Charlie and that.

[Jay Dyer]

Candace would have done well, for example, to learn basic fallacies. I cannot fathom why people in this domain do not want to learn basic logical fallacies. If you learn the informal fallacies, do you know how many stupid things you would avoid? Not just in. Oh, that's for debate bros. No, no, it's for life. You actually need basic logic to live in the world and succeed to do well. It's not just a question of theology debate bros. You. You will actually be duped by propaganda and lies without basic logic and fallacy assessment skills. Literally. So, for example, right there, that was all a bunch of non sequiturs.

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[Jay Dyer]

All these things happening, they can't be coincidence. Why? Why, why not? Some things are coincidence, Candace. An intuitive sense and feeling is the worst guide in some of these arenas. Unless you are some sort of like 20 or 30 year proven detective who spent all of this time in the, the, the cases and in the information or whatever. And then you might have a pretty good sense. But two, three years in a conspiracy stuff going on. Your intuition. Absolutely worst idea. It's the exact same as trading. I'm being, listen to me here, okay? If you're trading stocks or trading crypto, and Ivan always makes this point, right? Ivan on tech, going by intuition is the worst idea. Because your intuition, your feelings are going to be based around emotional states and you're not going to make a trade or make a purchase or invest based on long term rational thinking. You're going to trade and be based on the emotion and the hype of the moment, which is the worst thing because then you're going to revenge trade to get back your losses and then you're going to lose all of that bag. And how do I know that? How did Ivan know that? Because we've all done it. It. I've revenge traded back. In 2018, no, 2019, I had my first decent bag okay. Of crypto. It wasn't huge, but I thought, oh, I, I'll hop on Coinbase and I'll just start trading. And I went nuts with it, not knowing what I was doing because I think Cosmos was pumping, right? And so, oh, I'll put all this bag into Cosmos while it's pumping. And it pumped and I think at one point it got up pretty significant and I, without knowing what I was doing, in one night I lost $40,000 on a trade. Yes, 40,000 in one night on a trade. Now I basically diarrheaed my pants after that and don't worry like I've got all that back and more. So we're fine. But I'm not, I'm not hurt. I did. This was a long time ago, but I learned a lesson. You don't day trade. You cannot follow the emotion for this kind of stuff. Why were you betting that much as a new. Because I didn't know what I was doing. Yeah, it was 40,000 in one night. It was crazy. But so. But that taught me a lesson. And the lesson I learned from that was do not trade on emotion. Trade if you're going to trade based on long term commitment and conviction. But also an even easier route is literally to just stack bitcoin. And ever since that stage, all I did was stack bitcoin. Now what's the. The point of it is not about bitcoin. The point is that it's the same principle here with assessing the world and making your plan on the basis of what you think is going on in the world. So those same techniques and strategies of not investing in bullshit, not reacting and creating stories on the fly to make your thing work, the same thing applies to all this stuff. Hopefully you guys understand that. Slow boy says what happened to Ace Brasy? I think he just took a break from the Internet. I don't think anything bad happens to him. I think the last thing he said on. On a DM or on a. On a space was something about he was going to take a break. Father Deacon, do you have any advice or wisdom? I see you here in the chat. Feel free to. To chime in here.

Yeah, I told you, dude, you should invest it in pesos like me.

Peso coin. Correct.

Peso. So simoleon peso.

The Somalian peso. Wow.

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Did you want to say anything about. Do. Do you notice a sort of a connection between the implicit charismaticism of Roman Catholicism and some of the intuitions that Candace has had that sort of, you know, confirm for her all of these theories? I mean, doesn't this just speak to this problem that we always talk about with like pre last. Yep.

By the way, I'd love to find this video. I saw it years back, maybe like eight years ago, nine years ago. But there was somebody did a video documentary on how this charismatic and kind of evangelical, like the worship stuff came into the Roman Catholic Church was really interesting. I'll try to find it for you.

Oh, yeah, please do. Because we've covered in several podcast episodes, live streams, we've covered several times the official Roman Catholic acceptance of the charismatic movement from the papacy down for about 30 or 40 years now. So that's actually official papal approval there. It's not a fringe group amongst Catholics. John, did you want to say something? I apologize for going to you later.

Also in Brazil, it's huge. That kind of stuff.

John, do you want to say something?

I'll chime in in a minute here.

Okay, so I'll play the rest of this Candace clip. You guys tell me what you think.

[Caller/Guest]

That's why they had him marked and had him monitored and had him likely followed since he was young. And maybe they thought, like the agents think, that if they swarmed him and they stayed with him and they pretend to be his friend, that ultimately they could control Charlie and. And perhaps change ain't an outcome. They could literally change an outcome related to Charlie. So when for the first time in his life, because I do believe he was managed. I mean, I've already said I was handled. I didn't recognize that I had agents. And for the first time in his life, Charlie peeks his head up and starts to push back.

[Jay Dyer]

What. What does that mean? So she says, oh, I realized I had agents. I had handlers. I mean, what does that mean?

[Caller/Guest]

Meaningful way. It couldn't stop him from becoming bigger. That was. That seemed to be inevitable. But they panicked. They seem to have panicked, right? I mean, this is just starting to happen within a year when Charlie's going, like, hey, man, I don't actually think this. I don't actually believe this. And then he goes, you know what? Take the money. Take the money out of the organization. And they panicked. They freaked out, and their solution was, no, no, no, just kill them.

[Jay Dyer]

So, again, let's understand. This is in the context of this. Play this again.

[Caller/Guest]

Project Looking Glass. You know what I. You know what I wanted to talk about today, however, I'll save it for tomorrow. But this Project Looking Glass and the CIA, I wonder what they saw looking into the future, stealing not Egyptian, but Sumerian technology, which is what they did. These are culture vultures. These. These Egypties is what they are. They wear whatever mask they need to have. Do I have to pretend to be Catholic? Do I pretend to be Jewish? Do I pretend to be Muslim? No, they just. They're. They're thieves. They're glorified thieves is what these people are. And they've always been this since the beginning of history. And they stole some Sumerian technology that allowed them to predict outcomes, and that technology stopped working in 2012. We're going to get into that tomorrow.

[Jay Dyer]

Okay. I mean, this is the craziest I've heard since. I'm trying to think of the last time I've heard some of this. Great. This is like. And probably the last time I listened to coast to coast, probably 10 years ago, was the last time I heard Something like this. And again, where are the apologies? Okay, Jay, you know what? You're right. This is. This is bad crazy. No, it's all quadrupling down. I cannot understand what is. What is happening to people? What is happening to people? Let's read some of these super chats. Hades says $20. Happy birthday, Jay. I am actually from the year 2050, and America is now Wigs Antium. And no one has proof otherwise. Yeah, exactly. Shout out to my future Wigs and Teen Empire 7 Martyrs. Happy belated birthday. And by the way, I'm a little bit sick today. So I thought, well, if it's my birthday and I'm sick and I'm feeling sassy, like a sassy Ediva Sas queen, I might as well get on here and stream because I ain't going out. Nowheres B. Ryan, $5. Happy birthday, Jay. Quick question. Are there similarities between Aquinas's Actus Purists and all his attributes? Perhaps, but it's very difficult to kind of. To. To kind of establish that. And if you watch this should be. Not severely. The Azra Rashid debate. That's kind of the direction that I was trying to go in the Azra Rashid debate. But we didn't really get there because Sunni Islam has kind of a. Sometimes they have. It depends on which. If you're talking to Salafi's like Jake, like, they have a more strict distinction between all on his attributes than the rest of the more rational Sunnis do. So. Not really. Although. Perhaps. But the other thing is that the similarity wouldn't be too Allah's attributes. It would be to the essence, if anything. I mean, Actus Purists would have no similarity to. To Allah's attributes. Mr. Fist. $10. Amen. My girl, Candy Owens, she cooking up in multiple dimensional realities. Well, apparently. Apparently. And I'm just not understanding it yet. We got Shazay Hagard in the chat. Shahgar. That's the proper French pronunciation of his. His name. What's up, man?

Hey. I didn't hear you call my name. Did you call my name?

Sh. H. Am I not pronouncing it right? I'm sorry.

No, it's. It's Chase Haggard.

I guess I'm trying the actual. I just want to. I know, I know that there's a very. I know. Listen, I know. I. I get it, dude. There's a really precise gay French way to pronounce it, and I just can't do it there. I'm too toxically masculine. I can't do it.

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[Jay Dyer]

Okay. All right. Well, I see you have a faceless handler here as co host the Junior. Whatever it is Junior. So I'm just curious, do you have any evidence that Charlie Kirk did not try and time travel and that their time travel machine didn't stop working in 2012?

Oh, wait, this is a. This is a. This is a formidable challenge because I don't have. I don't have evidence.

So you don't have evidence that Charlie Kirk did not at one point become James McAvoy and recruit the X Men in the past, still being Hugh Jackman. Oh, here we go. Chase, what's your evidence for evidence? Huh? Oh my gosh.

Exactly.

Games. Are you gonna distract the whole time epistemic debates?

I got. You know what? I actually believe I. I agree with Chase. Now.

Here's what happens. Kristen makes him mad and then he takes it out on us. That's what happened.

Yeah, this. That's what's going on. Chase, who hurt you? Oh, wait, we know. It's Tristan.

Oh, okay. So you actually get someone up here to. To debate and who knows the facts of the case and. And you're gonna go and you're gonna just mock them. So why are you against Candace when she's just asking questions? Okay, look, since we know the mind's the brain, if I. I pull a brain model. Where did they hurt you on the brain, Chase?

Show us where Tristan touched you on your brain.

No, no, it is. It is just. It is getting insane, Jay. I don't think. I don't think there's going to be any. For these people. There's not going to be any vindication, quote, unquote. You or anyone else that have been calling her out being correct on this, They've set themselves up in this. In this way where any claim that no matter how outlandish it gets, they'll say she didn't claim it no matter what. And as she's just asking questions and it's the people who are loyal to her, it's gonna take a something else to break it. And it's not going to be logic or her being shown to be absurd.

It's the exact same way that all the QTARDs treated the Q crap and the way that the Q shaman was creating all. Creating. Treating the Q crap drop. And every time there would be some failed thing, all they would do is just have the next drop that next week. Yeah.

Imagine I have a scientific theory, right? And I'm saying that, you know, if. If A happens or if X happens, then A and B happens. And. Or if X is the case A and B happens, and then they go, well, A and B didn't happen. And you said X is the case. I said, well, also, if X isn't the case, then A and B won't happen.

Happened.

And I just keep expanding the parameters of this superset so that everything, no matter what happens, it falls within the parameters of my theory. So I'm always right.

That's unfalsifiable. Right. And by the way, the chat has already figured me out because I'm on Alex Jones show. That means I work for Alex, and Alex is the one who gave me the marching orders today to call out Candace. That's what's going on.

[Caller/Guest]

X.

[Jay Dyer]

You remove.

Oh, we're going full Jordan Maxwell or X Men.

Charlie Kirk.

X Men. And of course, if you look at the website there, it's called X. That's not a coincidence. It's X because of the X Men. Charlie Cook was an ex man. And Candace is calling out the Matrix. And so the Matrix is attacking her like it attacks the Tate brothers.

Yeah, there's. It's, it's just gonna be. It's, It's. It's just totally unfalsifiable. And it's, It's. It's really strange. And it's. It's fascinating seeing these, like, more normie people get sensationalized into this.

You know, that's the crazy part.

Candace Owens and her hunting down the secret truths of the universe to now, where it gets to the point of talking about time travel.

I know, man. So we got a guy in the chat saying that. Yeah, no, Jay's only saying this because he works with Alex Jones, blah, blah, blah. How about you call in. There's the link right there. And explain to me how this all works. How it's all, you know, the quantum foam dimensional time matrix. That.

But if it, if he calls in, that just proves his position incorrect. And if he doesn't call it, it Means he's so confident he doesn't need to show.

There's not. There's only evidence for the position. There's never so. And by the way, I sent all of this to Alex at 3 in the morning. He couldn't believe it. And he brings this up right here, watch this. I mean, with her. I went and looked at it because listeners wanted me to and I was shocked. I feel sick looking at it. I haven't looked at her in about a week. Other than her attacking you. What's going on with the time traveling.

So she did a show and she said that the CIA, through Project Looking Glass, has access to ancient Sumerian remote viewing technology. She says that Charlie was identified as a gifted child by some sort of shadowy occult force early on. Groomed his entire life since he was a little boy to be the head of Turning Point usa. He somehow gained possession over the technology. Saw his death in the future and how it would alter the space time continuum. And so as I said, you know, one time story about Turning Point usa. Now Charlie Kirk is a pivotal figure in the multiverse and the space time continuum. It's a conspiracy concerning.

I can confirm this. I saw J. Dyer yesterday with a post about this and he does satire sometimes. I thought it was a joke. She. Oh my God. Okay, wow. And again, that's premeditated. She's going for the total lunatic.

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I mean she's. She is doubling down. God. And here it is. Charlie Kirk was a time traveler. And then he had agents. Yes, like the Matrix. Monitoring him from childhood.

Wow.

Wow.

I couldn't believe it either. I read the couch and I had to watch the video. I said.

So there you go. We're exposed. Yes. Nick was correct on that. Basically everybody I know is correct on this. Mark Hacker was correct. Nick Fuentes was correct. Quartering was correct. Even Tim Pool was correct. Alex was correct. I'm trying to think of who else was calling us that. Andrew was correct. Steven Crowder was correct. Pretty much everybody that I've known was correct on this. But you still have some of these weirdos, some of these weird Twitter profiles that are pretty large, doubling down on this, which is bizarre, too. What's up? Do you want to say something? Shall I say.

Yeah, yeah. I was gonna say that I. I've heard you and other people obviously talk about this a bunch. You know, your Fed handler in here, junior, without the profile pick. We were about it, I think, a couple of months ago. But people, you know, people will then ask the question, well, well, then why are people attacking Candace if it's. If it's not true? Well, you could also ask the question, why is this allowed to go, you know, be viral in algorithms if it. If it is true? Why would they allow her to do that? And we actually have, you know, justification of different, you know, CIA documents and stuff, talking about, hey, we'll allow different wackos to get popular so that. Then we flood the zone with totally uncredible information so that when people question mainstream narratives, we can just point to people like a Candace Owens and say, oh, you believe her? What are you talking about? You're crazy. Yeah, I. I think. I think one of the problems is that the stuff she's saying about TPUSA is probably true.

Exactly.

So. So it's blending this. The. It's unfortunate that this is happening. I mean, I. I also feel bad for her. I think. I think she is kind of going down a. You know, like. Like we've talked about before because, you know, I'll listen to her show, and she does sound like a. Like an early bird conspiracy theorist. Like, the way she talks. She's very. She's a. She doesn't know what she's talking about. A lot of times when she talks about, you know, quote, unquote conspiracy theories, and she'll say some stuff, and I'm like, you don't even know what you're talking about on this subject, but on the TPUSA stuff, I think she's onto something there. And it's unfortunate that. That now she's gone down the route of the total bizarre quantum foam, which back in the day, me and Jay, we. We made multiple episodes and jokes about quantum foam and all. All of that. Remember how much we used to rag on quantum foam?

Oh, absolutely. That's why I said it, because you were in the chat, so you know.

It'S real, so you know it's true. You admit it's true.

Well, that's when.

When I started to Stop being friends with all of you. I stopped being friends with them quantumly, but temporally, I'm still friends with them.

So Chase has actually overcome his. Chase has actually overcome and used his.

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Hello?

[Jay Dyer]

Hold on, John. So this is dissociation, technically speaking, but Chase has actually tapped into his trauma, and when he dissociates, he can actually control his higher self in the quantum dimensions. And it's actually a superpower.

Yeah, and the control of. It's all based on petty interpersonal drama. Not anything that's necessary.

Yeah, well, that's why when they turn cern, Sally, Craft, talk, Harry, when they turn travel, when they turn one time.

When you astral project into my drama.

Stop astral projecting into my drama. Dude.

What's funny is, is the scientific people. So there's that article from back in the day. It's by some science dude named Charles Eisenstein, and he wrote the article Synchronicity in the New World Order.

Yeah.

And he invokes quantum foam to explain why people think that the government does bad stuff. And he says there's like a multiverse where actually maybe the government is good in this universe, but they're bad in this other one. And it's a. It's a real paper. It's not like.

Yeah, no, it's. It's. We looked it up. I'm trying to find it right now. And it was be. It was actually rolled out over the Big Nine event. Right. So that. The idea was, if you're questioning the Big nine event, you might be through retroactive causation, affecting the quantum phone to actually have made the Big Nine event be a conspiracy. So it's actually the fault of the conspiracy theory people. I'm not. You can't make this up. That's literally what the guy was arguing. I'm serious. It's your fault because you affected the quantum foam retroactively.

Yeah. And now that's being used in reverse here in this situation where un. Probably unwittingly, the quantum foam is being affected in the future by people theorizing about Charlie Kirk's death in the past, which was actually happening in the future. But because he was a time traveler and came from the past, no, it's affected again.

I think we need quantum phone prosecutions. And I. I blame people like Chase, you, John, I think you guys need to be prosecuted and thrown in the slammer for your quantum crimes.

Father Deacon, too, because he. He also. He's. He's a. He's a cholo. He's a quantum caper. That's what they call him. Quantum Cholo. That's crazy. Actually, that's my new style. Like when I went to play bluegrass, I had like, you know, the button up, plaid shirt and.

Yeah, you should be prosecuted.

I should be prosecuted. Get him. He just keeps getting away with it.

Now, on the Gate program, I want to remind you guys, I was in the Gate program, so I can actually tell you what it is. It's not an X Men operation. It's just like pronounce gay.

Gay program.

Good one. All right. Oh, guess you understand. I could just immediately mute you. All right, now you can just immediately be almost muted.

Not if I quantum.

Oh, he see, Chase is retroactively affecting the quantum foam in the future to cause through retroactive causation this whole conversation right now.

I know, I know. By Chase being on here, he's definitely making the audience leave. That's for sure.

Oh, Sigma. Now, guys, remember we did do an episode of the Sam Hyde show on education being brainwashing and the Quantum phone. I'm not Quantum Phone. And the gay program. So if you. If you watch this episode, the Gate program comes up at the end of it. I remember writing a significant part of that part, I think. So you can check out the Sam Hyde show where we cover the GATE program, but it's not X Men stuff. It's just like gifted and talented. And there is an element to which they wanted to influence gifted and talented students for UNESCO type stuff. But as far as I recall, there's no MK Ultra handlers. Nobody was taken to underground bases and hooked up to machines. And. And that's all nonsense.

There's. Oh, this is an old one, Jay. Okay. Before the GATE program theory which came around, I. I didn't hear about that until like 10 years ago or something. That's not like in the. An old one. The one before that is Indigo Children.

Yeah, yeah, that was a. That's a. Like a New Age adjacent thing where, you know, they're singling out the gifted children for the new era of consciousness and that the New age promoted that as a good thing. But yeah, and it's. It's similar to the GATE program, or the GATE program is a real thing and it's called different things in different school districts. But in California it's called GATE Gifted and Talented Education Program. But it's not MK Ultra. I mean, there could be some overlap with, like finding people that are, you know, useful for future projects and grooming them to be in these kinds of roles. Yes, but it's not what this is all about. Let's read some of these super chats. Hades. So we did that. Let me come over here and do it. Nick says for as a member, he says. Quantum foam. Deacon Fomanias. Exactly. You guys are getting down to the real story and exposing these people. I like it. Flavius. $10. Never trust E girls who were former libtards. They know they show no remorse and they're. Yeah, they're sus, Trevor. I mean. Well, we just saw that with Ashley St. Clair, right? Right. Oh, turns out she about. Dude, she was so obviously sus the whole time. Like if you couldn't figure out that she was sus, like you got no discernment dog. Trevor says for $20. Happy birthday. You the bipoc diva. Exactly. We all know who the real queen is. I got questions. I ain't got no questions. But just keep up the good work. Thank you, dude. Contemporary Companion. $5. Catch up on the replay. Got to work on more of this AI music. I love it. Happy birthday King. Thank you you Z for your answer. For your information, Scam Shamu will be doing an anti Muslim apologist tier list. I wonder how he will rank you. He's a venomous person. So I'm sure I'm gonna be in the garbage tier. Snackle bees. $10. There's a game called Hellblade. Sinwise sacrifice. It gets into schizo stuff. Well, did you guys play the new Silent Hill F? I should have streamed it, but I didn't think about it. It. The new Silent Hill F was about the main chick being skitso. So there you go. How comes. How come Candace isn't playing Silent Hill F and understanding what's going on in reality. Father Deacon, I got a question for you. You might not have heard the beginning part where we talked about people who are, you know, suffering with schizophrenia. And I'm being serious on this this point. You. You have a friend who had the. Has this problem and you had. You had highlighted in the past some of the features of this which. I mean, they sound terrible, but one of the problems is that all of reality revolves around them, right?

Yeah. And actually the therapist.

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Due to, you know, trauma and not knowing, you know, his kind of identity. Like he was adopted. He was going through all this kind of different stuff. And so the mind and attempt to kind of of protect itself created its own kind of identity. But you're the center of. Because he wasn't a narcissist. But I'm saying the mental illness made him an attempt to assure him of his identity. A false identity in which he was the star. And there's other. You know, I've had another friend too who's went through something kind of similar and it was the same thing too that he was saying. What is it that they call. Like there's a term for it. We're like targeted individuals. Like what people?

Yeah, Gang stalking and ti. We talked about that earlier. Yeah, yeah.

He thought this. And it was like, look, you know, they want me to stop drinking and every time they want me to start drinking, they. They send a fire engine because of. So fire engines and sirens are. This is their sign to me that they're on to me. And. And it was all centered around him that they're targeting him. And I'm like, I'm like, I don't mean to be a jerk. Like, why are you so special?

Yeah, that's what we said earlier. It's like I can't get target. Yeah. If you watch the documentaries of the people who are targeted, individuals are gang stalked and there's a bunch of them I've watched, like I said, probably five or 10 of them over the years. And you'll notice that like a lot of times you can clearly see that the people are having serious mental issues and problems and they construct a story where they're the, you know, the, the protagonist, they're the lead story. The whole world is essentially revolving around them. I don't know if you guys have been watching Pluribus. I'm not sure if I'm going to finish it. It's kind of. It started out really good. It's kind of getting kind of weird.

But I told you what episode are.

You on to the conclusion?

Go ahead.

Sorry. Yeah, about episode four. But that's kind of what happens to her, right? Like the whole world ends up. Starts revolving around her.

Yeah. Yep. Yeah, exactly. Great point.

Did you want to say something here, cowboy? What's up?

Yeah. Genuinely curious. Why why do you think that Paul Vallee would be on the advisory board of tpusa? He's a co author of Psyop to Mind War.

Yeah, I knew that. I knew that. I knew that 15 years ago. I called, I talked about it.

It was on the advisory board of TPUSA. It didn't exist 15 years ago.

No, I talked about. I'm talking about Mind War and saw that he co authored that.

He's the author of it. Why would he be on the advisory board of Turning Point usa?

I covered that. He was on that a month ago. I read that book and cited it 15 years ago.

Nothing's weird about that, Jay.

Did I say that to you for.

Years and there's nothing.

Did I say that about that? Dude, I. We already said in this very episode.

She talked about, sir.

Oh, my God. Dude, shut up and let me. You're not even listening. You're not listening about that on your show, bro.

You.

You. You're not listening. Hold on. Let's walk through this, okay?

I mean, have you seen that Erica was literally at 4.

Watch hookah. One thing at a. One thing at a time. Hold on a second. Second. Okay, let's. Let's start with TP USA stuff. John Adams and I, the guy that you're right next to, we have critiqued and called out TP USA and all the Calvary Chapel stuff for over a decade. I talked about TP USA and Paul Valley a month ago. So I'm aware of that. Yes, and I say that's a problem.

Why are you guys straw manning over like her talking about. You've literally talked about time travel. You've talked about.

No, I have not. I don't believe in. No, I have not. You're lying. You're lying. I do not believe in time travel. Never talked about it.

You wouldn't say you believe in it. You've discussed it on your show.

She believes in it, dummy. That's the difference.

The episode. It's literally. It's rhetoric. It's not literal, bro.

It is. What do you mean it's not rhetorical? What are you talking about?

I'm listening to the. It's literally.

This is the Candace. This is the followers of Candace. The level of retardation that you get. Exactly. Let's play the clip again.

[Caller/Guest]

Find it to be fascinating. I wonder if they saw, you know, what I wanted to talk about today. However, I'll save it for tomorrow. But this project, Looking Glass in the CIA. I wonder what they saw. Looking into the future. Stealing. Not Egyptian But Sumerian technology, which is what they did. These are culture, Vulture.

[Jay Dyer]

What is rhetorical about that? Where's the rhetoric that does it? Do you even know what rhetoric is? That's not rhetorical, you idiot.

[Caller/Guest]

Egypties is what they are. They wear whatever mask they need to. They have to pretend to be Catholic. Do I pretend to be Jew?

[Jay Dyer]

Who is she talking about? Who's they? From the beginning of time. Who? The Illuminati.

[Caller/Guest]

Who are we talking about trying to be Muslim? No, they just. They're. They're thieves. They're glorified thieves is what these people are. And they've always been this since the beginning of history. And they stole some Sumerian technology that allowed them to predict outcomes. And that.

[Jay Dyer]

They stole Samaran technology that allows them to predict outcomes. There's no rhetoric in that, you idiot. Dirty. What's up? He doesn't even know what rhetoric is. That's not rhetoric, Yo.

Huh? What up? Hey, that was hilarious, bro.

The. My bad. The. Whatever that guy was. Y', all.

Y' all just said that she can be right about some stuff.

But like this right here is what you said. Jay is like. She's just learning about all this stuff.

Like the conspiracies we knew about like 15 years ago.

Yeah.

And so it's like this is her, like. And she's putting it through this Roman Catholic worldview and she doesn't have good, like, logical skills.

Yep.

It's like, bruh, she get a few things right. But it's like this is.

Yeah. This guy. This guy gets it. That's my fellow bipoc man right there. He gets it. Why can't y' all get it? Dummies. It's. You know why? Because they're sunken cost. They've already invested in this nonsense and defended it for the last six months. So they gotta keep defending it and. Oh, it's just rhetoric. She didn't mean it, dude. Listen, I'm gonna predict that. I'm gonna look into the. The Sumerian time matrix right now and predict the future for y'.

[Caller/Guest]

All.

[Jay Dyer]

Are you ready? Ready. The next thing she's going to do is the next crazy conspiracy. Boom. Write it down right there, son. Matthew, what's up? I want some Candace defenders. Come make a good argument and stop getting. Go ahead.

Yo, I gotta ask you some questions.

Ask me a question.

Okay. Big, big fan. You're my favorite bipoc.

Ed. I'm the only one.

I got one. Two questions that are absolutely not on topic for today. But do you write any of the Sam Hyde skits. Not his show, I guess, but like, do you do any of the skits?

No, I have not written for mde just for Sam Hydro.

I think one of the skits he does when he. Him and those guys are the kids in the baseball. Doggy out is one of the first funniest I've ever seen in my life. I just thought that was hilarious. I didn't know if he did that or not.

No. I wish I'd been involved in somebody.

My real question. My real question is, I've heard you say it on a. Bring it up on a few times on some of your streams, but got a big, big issue with your take on sports ball.

Okay.

Why do you not like sports ball?

It's faking gay. It's faking gay.

It's faking gay. All right.

In. End of debate. Go ahead. What? Okay.

What? Okay, okay, I get, I get like professional sports ball is fake and gay. Like, there you go. People have no, you know, connection to, you know, NFL teams or whatnot. And they like live their life through that and. Or, you know, those gay Europeans who live their life through premier league and like that. But what if there's like, what about, you know, college? You know, there's actual connection between, you know, people in the schools.

All right, well, I appreciate the question. I mean, I don't care if people want to like college football. I don't care if you want to like professional sports. It's just like the whole thing has become a giant idol. It's like the biggest idol in America. And people, you know, worship the, the sports ball people more than they worship even actors. They get, you know, they get Tennessee Titans, UT Vols, coffins made up. So I mean, that's just. I. It's sad, but it's reflective glory. It's large scale social engineering. I mean, they, they promote all of the worst woke stuff. So.

And I don't mind supporting my like, local Carroll College team, you know, football team and stuff like that, but what is absurd too. Even in college football, do you know how much coaches get paid?

No idea.

What they're like 300, $400,000 a year.

Interesting.

Like a full time tenured professor might get. Yeah, well, what? A hundred tops. 100.

Oh, so you're just jealous. That's the only reason you. That's, that's the only reason you would ever say only. The only reason anyone ever critiques anybody is jealousy.

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What?

That guy needs to read the book the Fixes in by Brian Tuohy.

Yeah, I've got, I've got it over there. Fixes in. Yeah, exactly.

It's, it's the, the games are fixed and a lot of it has to do with the multinational corporations that all participate in.

And organized crime.

Yeah. And human trafficking as well.

Yeah. All of those things factor into this gigantic faking gay industry and everybody, go ahead.

The sports balls players aren't even real. There's quantum cgi.

They're quantum cgi. You know, holograms. They're faking gay holograms. By the way, I think a bunch of those guys. I think a lot of that stuff is a bunch of gay, gay stuff too. I'm being serious.

Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely compromised individuals who are trotted out. I mean even. I mean I haven't watched sports for 20 plus years, but even I don't know how people could go back after Covid. How could you go back and do all that when they literally had plywood people in the stands at baseball games?

I forgot about that. Do you remember they had like giant fake people in the audience in a lot of different sports venues. And some of them even look like the, the, the Nintendo Wii characters. They look like the, the Wii Emo. That was so weird and dystopian. What are they called? Amiibos. The Wii Amiibo characters. You would walk, you turn on a sports ball thing and like it was a giant crowd full of, of these, full of these amiibos. What. What world am I in? Am I in a. Maybe Candace is right and we're in the, you know, quantum CERN dimensional dream world now. Somehow we went to the dark Tower in step went. We went through the wrong door of the dark Tower. What's up everybody? We got a nice. I'm glad I decided to live stream. We. We hit 2000 live earlier. But anyway, so we were talking about the gayness of sports ball. What's up, Jose? What's up? We got any Candace defenders? Y' all are the funniest. I Want y' all to come up and please engage in all of your fallacies, please. What's up, dude?

Yo, Jay. What's up?

What's on your mind?

On n. Nothing much. I just really wanted to know if you have any recommendations for books on partial predatorism.

Yeah, I got a bunch. My godfather's trilogy, Dean Arnold's trilogy on the book of Revelation. Days of Vengeance by David Chilton. Before Jerusalem Fell by Ken Gentry. Paradise Restored by David Chilton. Peter Holford's little book on the destruction of Jerusalem. Those are all good, good books on that, dog.

Well, that's all I really had to know. Your recommendations.

Yeah, and there's more. Other. There's, you know, Peter Lyart has a two volume commentary. That's partial predator. That's good. So there's a lot of resources on that. What's up, Nectarios. Welcome, everybody. It's my birthday stream. It's my birthday. We're gonna party like it's my birthday.

Yeah, I was gonna. I was about to say, just to let you know, I am a time traveler as well.

Good.

If you don't know, source me, bro. Trust me, bro. I'm a tribe traveler. And it's coming back my 27th time. And I'm here to tell you happy birthday.

Thank you.

And I'm gonna give you the best pass of them all. It's better than the N word pass. I'm gonna allow you say the Mexican slur. Race slur. On behalf of all Mexicans.

So are you Mexican or.

That's my gift to you.

Are you Mexican or you just handing them out?

No, I'm actually Mexican.

Yeah. Oh, nice. Sweet. Hey, bro, thank you. Hold on, dude. Thank you so much, bro. By the way, you're always welcome in my alternate dimensions or in the multiverse. Like, bro, you can do whatever you want in my multiverse. I give you a free pass, bro. Ian Curtis. I thought it was Ian. Carol. For a second, I thought he was going to get a. A Candace apologist. What's up, man? Yo, do we all control opposition over here, bro? What's up, man? I'm you, Ian. I'm mute. Okay.

Hello.

Yo, what's up?

Hey, what's going on, man? Happy birthday, first of all. So I got a couple things. So I have a buddy that has been torn between Orthodoxy and Anglicanism. And so I've basically dismantled every argument. But whenever it comes down to the apostolic succession that the Church fathers taught, as far as the doctrine and stuff like that.

You cut out, dude. Can't hear You. So the answer is yes. Sorry, but the answer is yes. JB Peltier says these boys love sports balls. I know, man. I know. Y' all remember my little clip about sports ball? Y' all love them sweaty black men running around everywhere. I just. Okay. I can't do without my sports ball. The sweaty black man running around. They run in circles, y'. All. The black men run in circles. And then they do it again.

I love it so much for running it all everywhere. It's crazy.

Welcome, everybody. Where's all. Yeah, there we go. Y' all go watch this clip. What do you think of sports ball? Here's my clip right there. Watch that one. Who's next? Lando. Lando Calrissian. What's up? Hello. Whatever. Ale. Aleandro alejandro. What's up, man? I'm you. What's up?

Yo, as another Mexican, I also give you the pass to say the slur.

Cool. And that. That is word. Is what? Flan. What's the. Is it. Is it flan? He gave me a pasta. Say flying, bro. Bro, your girlfriend, man, she looking like a freaking flan. Chris, $20. Happy birthday. Thank you, Chris. Appreciate that B.S. we got a bull crapper here. He says for $10, listen to Dr. Octagon is a song called Blue Flowers. Then you will understand Candace. Okay, we're going full schizo here. Now the songs are talking to us about. Candace is. You know, over the years, I've gotten some. Some prized schizo emails, many of which I've saved. And one of my favorite was that David lynch is an MK Ultra handler because there was a woman who every town she went to, David lynch was controlling the radio and causing the songs to harass her on the radio. So, you know, David lynch has gone on into the quantum foam, and he needs to answer for his crimes. That's. That's what I'm saying here. Tom, what's up, man? Tom, what's up?

Hey, happy birthday, man.

Thank you.

I got two pieces of media that you're really gonna dig.

You. You mentioned Operation Trust earlier.

So first, 1983 is Riley Ace of Spies.

I'm familiar with it. Yeah. I have you talking about the Sam Neill series. Yep. Yeah. I also have Dr. Richard Spence's book on Rally Ace of Spies, which I think is probably going to be one of the next books that we. That we do.

Cool. Next one is 1993. It's got two different names. One's Detonator Once Death Train, Pierce Brosnan, Christopher Lee, Patrick Stewart, and Ted Levine.

Awesome. Death train. We'll check that out. Yeah, reminds me of Speed 2 with Sandra Bulcock. Where? It's a death train. Who's next? Venus. Oh, we got a dang goddess up in here. Set us straight, Venus.

Hello, bro.

What's up? Go ahead.

Oh, yeah, I heard about the descendants of the nations and all that. Like how Jacob is the. I'm not sorry. David is the, like, father of Israel and stuff like that. How does that apply to the wider east in China.

David is the father of Israel. I don't know what you're talking about.

I mean, Davis, the father Israel. I misspoke. So who.

What, bro? I don't understand what. What you're talking about. David is the father of Israel in China. I don't get it. Okay, R. R, are you here to expose me? I want people come in calling and expose me, y'. All. R.F. what's up? Unmute. I saw you in the chat. Come on, expose me, dude. Okay, Just booting you. I thought you were gonna expose me, man. It's all the same. People always calling in Zala. I'm mute. Zala. I guess I didn't wear my unmute shirt, so.

Oh, yo, yo, can I. Can I come back in one second?

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[Jay Dyer]

Just please, man. Y' all don't bring me a bunch of crazy. Bring me crazy stuff. Saul, what's up, dude? I'm wanting crazy today. I don't want boring theology questions.

What does the technical Greek terminology in.

Romans 3 when Paul clearly refers to penal substitution or atonement? Because he says that the blood of the covenant is on the mercy.

CC clearly that's dg.

Play a little. What's up, man? I'm you.

Hey, so this is my best thought on Candace. This is what would be my best defense because slander or defamation requires actual malice for public figures. Do you think that she's maybe just like flooding a bunch of nonsense?

Well, some people are saying. Some people are saying that she's going to try like a insanity plea. I don't know.

Okay. Yeah, that's.

That's. That's all I got, man.

Happy birthday.

Thank you. Appreciate that. Yeah, I mean, who knows? We'll have. We'll have to see, but I can guarantee you that next week is going to be the next crazy conspiracy underwater. What's up? The real fun is where. Where are we going next week? I think she said something about Mayan calendar, right? She said we're going to get into that next week because the Sumerian technology quit working in 2012. Well, 2012 is the Mayan calendar, so. Hello? Yep.

Oh, yeah, open calls. I was helping out my. My friend who I'm trying to turn Orthodox, and you. You told me I should watch the. I recommend the documentary that you. That was three hours and 30 minutes. And. And when it comes to reading the Bible, I was recommending the K. The. Hold on the K. Wait, what? Oh, my goodness. I'm stuttering so bad.

It's okay. What's the question? It's okay, man. Take a breath. It's cool.

What Bible recommendation do you have? Because right now I recommended her the K. The King James Bible.

Oh, no, the Orthodox study Bible is the best one. So. Yeah, get you a copy of that. It's the one with. That has Old and New Testament handle. What's up handle. There's no Candace apologist. We only have one Candace apologist. What's up, man?

Hello. I'm not a Candace apologist. I have a question on certainty. So I'm an Evangelical Christian and I've been listening to a lot of orthodox argument for the. The last couple years, and I'm convinced on the historical position for ontological justification. And I'm talking to several of my friends and I'm looking for certainty, and they say that I'm not. I'm never going to find certainty. So I just kind of want to know, like, what should I be looking for? Because at the end of the day, there's two interpretations. There's the ontological one, the forensic one. How can I certainly know which one is the objectively true interpretation?

Fda. Would you like to take that? Father Deacon, are you there? Would you like to. You have.

Sorry, I was working on something I didn't hear.

It's okay. I will send you a super chat to help with your work here.

What was the question?

You want to ask the question again.

Was that how can I certainly know that the ontological justification is the objectively correct one and not the forensic justification as the Protestant reformers Interpret the Bible.

Oh, I thought you meant epistemic justification. You're actually talking about justification by faith alone.

Right.

I misunderstood.

For certainty. How can I? I certainly know which was the objective.

Okay, well, how about this? How about this? If nobody in the ancient medieval world was a nominalist, then it's not possible for them to have taught the nominalistic view of justification.

So nominalism all. So what Jay's saying is the forensic and imputed righteous. All that theory is premised and only works and comes about through a philosophical theory called nominalism that denies real essences. That theory doesn't come into existence in the history of humanity until the medieval ages. Later medieval ages. And so there's your certitude right there.

So it was not possible that Paul was teaching a later nominalistic idea of.

Justification, and that that would apply to, of course, the apostles. Right?

Paul is an apostle.

Okay, thank you. It's like 15.

I mean, yeah, it's not until Gabriel, aam and bile. Right. So the book you want to read on this is Heiko Oberman's book, Harvest of Medieval Theology. He's a Lutheran scholar who wrote this book saying, hey, wait a minute. You can't really have justification in the legal penal substitution imputation sense without nominalism. But nominalism is way late. So Paul didn't teach, couldn't have taught that view. I think it's a pretty devastating kill shot if you really understand it. Michael says for $20. Candace's Skittles husband is Catholic AI. Wait, Catholic AI is writing her show? That's not me saying that. That's him saying that. Timo says for $5. Patrick bet David had scam Shimu on but won't have Jay Dyer on. That's not cool. Yeah, I mean, I've talked to their producers, like, five times. I don't know. I mean, I don't know, Brian. I know. We did that. We did that one.

Trevor.

Yeah, we did that.

Let's see.

Zet says for $3. Sam Shamoon is doing anti. No, we did that. Excuse me, snaggle beast. We did that. Daniel says for $10. Happy birthday, Jay. You've done so much to help guide me towards orthodoxy. Appreciate that. Thank you. Many years to you. Nathan. $30. Give us the truth, Jay. Well, when I peer into the stolen Sumerian technology, I'll know for sure. By the way, that's the answer. We should have told that guy. The only way to have certitude is to look into the dimensional Sumerian portion mortal. That's how. Then you'll know the future. Broccoli, $10. Where can I find big booty Mormon space women and moms to join my call. Or is this in the wrong space? This is probably the wrong space because I don't think we have any of those here. My audience is 9% women. And out of that 9%, I think there are zero Mormon space moms. But you could always ask in the chat if there's any single Mormon space moms that are looking. Looking to get hitched. Miklo, $20. What do you mean is in? What do you mean? It's in the Grand Canyon. What's in the Grand Canyon? I don't know what you're talking about. Cheap chimp. $2. Happy birthday. Thank you, Nate. Happy birthday. You're my favorite kid singer and KGB black wizard. Hope you mean by black bipoc and not evil Black Black. M says for $20. Sensational. Jay. Thank you, M. Fist. Happy birthday. Thank you. It's your 20th birthday, correct? Yes, it's my 20th. I'm old enough to buy dip in cigarettes, so I'm buying. What's the dip? Big League Chew. Is that a brand of dip? I don't know. And I'm buying Skull and I'm buying Viceroy cigarettes. Cigarettes because Mac DeMarco smokes Viceroys. Let's see. Mr. Fist. Hey, hey, man, don't do my girl Candace like that, okay? Appreciate all those. Jaquan. John quavion says for $10. Did you see today that there was a huge college basketball scandal where the players are literally receiving bribes and throwing the games? Oh, well, there we go. It happened today in the news. So there's your answer. That's how it's faking gay dog. And Y. John Quaveon send sends that twice. So shout out to my fellow Bipod peoples that are becoming woke to the real deception of sports. Dr. Smiles says I'm poor, but here's $2. Thank you. Appreciate that. You don't have to. If you're poor, you ain't got to super chat me, man. Take that money and put it into bitcoin. By the way, bitcoin's back up. Told you guys. Oh, bitcoin's going to zero. You're done cook your cook dart. No, no. All I did is stack back and y' all should have done it. No, Zins are not better. Alps are the only one I would Zen's did. I did one Zen and puked immediately. And I've been doing Alps fine for months. Troy. Troy, the docs 20. Happy birthday Jay. Thank you. Prague says $5. Do you think Candace is new and catching up on things? Well, early on we said that there's different possibilities. So if you watch the beginning of the stream, we said, you know, she could be having a, an episode. She could be disinfo. She could be on a awakening journey. It could be all those things we don't know. Summer says go ahead.

I think, I think she's catching up.

What do you mean?

Yeah, I think she's coming into some of this stuff that, you know, obviously you and I would have known, you know, 20 years ago. And like, like you were saying earlier, sometimes the, the there's a, there's like a bit, and we've discussed this before is like, there's a bit of like when something's new, it's, it's not only like a novelty, but it, it's like, it's addictive. And then you start to shape a worldview around it that kind of fits.

Yes.

Every, everything into that conspiracy theory, which I can admit. I did that.

I did that too. Yeah, I did it as well.

Yeah. So you, you shape your worldview into it where it's like, like, you know, I used to be black Pill back in the day. Even before black pilled exists. I was, I was black pilled back in the early 2000s. So my worldview at that time shifted to. Yeah, nothing is real. So I can understand. And I'm, I'm rooting for Candace. I'm, I'm, I'm rooting for her. I'm not saying I agree with her on her quantum foam stuff, but I hope that she's not a psyop and I hope that she, you know, comes out of her delusion.

Dozens of NCAA basketball players state through the games 1 hour ago just now breaking 26 people charged in basketball game fixing. So there's your fake and gay College Sports. Rose since 50. $50. Can you believe that? Just broke in an hour. That's crazy. An hour ago rose since $50. Happy birthday. Thank you so much, Rose. Appreciate that. That's really kind of you.

College balls safe.

No college ball. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, well, imagine betting on stuff that's like thrown. I would be pissed if I was a sports betting. I don't bet on sports. But if, if, if you're like betting your money on this stuff and it's like it's all rigged. So I mean. Cody, what's up, dude?

Hey, Jay. Happy birthday.

Thank you.

Hey. So I was here for the big booty space wives, but I Guess that's not happening today, so I guess I'll just ask instead. So I. I'm an inquirer. I've been an inquirer for about a year in the Orthodox Church, and this isn't a theology question in the strictest. In. In a strict sense, before I came into Inquire with the Orthodox Church, I was diving pretty deep into the.

Oh, you cut out dog.

Oh, it muted me for some reason. Sorry about that. I was diving pretty deep into the whole alien, aliens or demons side of the sphere. And after I started inquiring into the church, I sort of just cut that chain off because I didn't want anything to pollute my thinking. But I was curious about what your. Your thoughts of that set of things are because there's a lot of stuff about, you know, you know, Congress dealing with the UAP stuff, and, you know, how to deal with that as Christians is definitely important, but not, you know, vital. And so I was curious about what your thoughts were on the whole aliens possibly being the demonic, or if you think it's more of like on the Project Blue Beam.

I think there's both. There's a black ops component to it. I've done probably 10 podcasts over the years on that topic. You should watch Mirage Men if you've never seen that documentary. It lays it out. Collins Brothers have a good book called Invoking the beyond. About 300, 400 pages of that book in the middle is about the CIA black ops component of the alien stuff. And I also think there is a demonic angle, too. And I've covered Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future by Father Seraphim Rose, which covers that. Mallon Kaiser. $20 have confirmation through the grapevine that in 2028, when you debated Candace, that that 2028 debate has been leaked on the web and that she was confirmed as the actual Alpha Bipo slay queen. And you were. You lost and you were devastated. Happy birthday. Yeah, so see, people have already quantum foamed the future debate of 2028 that I lost. And. And I think what Mallon Kisner is getting that is that I also saw that in the quantum foam. And so I'm retro. I'm, like, freaking out and trying to preemptively take down Candace because I lost the future debate that the CIA told me about through the stolen Sumerian technology. Let's see. Snaggle Beast. Happy birthday, Jay. I didn't hear about it earlier. Thank you. You. Amber says for $10. Happy birthday, diva. Thank you. Excuse me. Happy birthday. Anthony says for $20. Happy birthday. I hope you're spending the special day with us. Thank you for spending the special day with us in the audience. Here's to a great year. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, Jamie was really sweet and cooking me a. A keto birthday cake. And I said, you know what? You know what? And she said, what? And I said, I'm about to stream. And she said, why are you gonna do that? I said, cause can this got me sassy today day. And by golly, that's what I did. Okay, where are we at? Who's next? Ding bat. What's up, dude?

Hey, can you hear me? Happy birthday, J.

Thank you.

Okay, so as an orthodox Christian, what literature would you recommend for me? About to read preemptively before I read the Talmud. Orthodox literature.

You go read the whole Talmud. Good luck with that. I'll see you in 15 years.

Okay, well, before I read the portions that are relevant.

Yeah, there's a good book by Schaefer. It's Jesus and the Talmud by Schaefer. And also, that's an academic text. I mean, Michael Hoffman is a giant, giant, giant book. That's another. It's probably a thousand pages on that. So I think that's the only two that I have. There might be others that I'm not aware of. But also, Kennedy has a. He's a messianic Jew, and he has a book on Jesus and the Talmud in the early rabbinic literature. But he's actually arguing that there's a lot of rabbinic literature that actually admits that Jesus is probably the Messiah. Right wing. What's up, man?

You ain't heard? Charlie up on that ship, that mother.

Plane with Yakub negotiating white man. Oh, he. This brother right here just brought to my attention some forgotten lore. Did you know the Nation hold up?

[Caller/Guest]

Y.

[Jay Dyer]

They trying to stop that stuff getting out, dog. Cuz remember that, Lou. Louis Faran. Lewis Farakhan. Okay? Y' all remember him? He have done a talk, okay, where he talked about the alien mothership. If y' all don't believe me, let's. Let's listen to Louis Farakhan. Okay, listen. We're only two episodes away. We're only two episodes away from full Yakubian Candace revelations, okay? And if y' all don't believe me, let's. Let's listen, okay? We're talking about the mothership. The mothership connection. Y' all heard a pfont. Y' all didn't know Pfunk was a documentary. Let's listen to this. Let's Listen, right here, here, 50 year.

Old pilot Steve Allen was at a campfire with friends and says the object was a mile long and half a mile wide.

Right.

I don't know if it was a biblical experience or somebody from a different universe or planet.

I like how they, they threw in. This is how we do it by Montel Jordan. This is how we do it. This is how we aub it595. I can't play it without. Okay, I. I mean that's the, that's the best clip of the night is Lewis. Here we go. Let's play the young, the young turds talking about it first. He says that he's concerned that the white right is conspiring to make Obama one term president. Okay, people, focus on that. But the word profit is too cheap a word. He said I am a light in the midst of darkness. I want the actual clip. And all these are like garbage, 20 year old 360p clips. All right, let's go. Well, I guess we'll have to play this one. Let's play.

Let's do this.

[Caller/Guest]

The mothership, they had a document documentary, if you have on tv, they had a documentary that they are playing now. They were playing and they are playing during the month of February that verifies the teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad concerning the presence of what they call unidentified flying objects. They are not objects from out of space. They are objects from right here on this earth flown and mastered by superior intelligence. And these scientists came on the television talking about how they were flying their plane and one of them was right near their wings.

[Jay Dyer]

Plane. That's it right there. That's. That's the. Right there.

[Caller/Guest]

And then it took off at incredible speeds.

[Jay Dyer]

There it is right there.

[Caller/Guest]

Doing things that no plane has ever been known to do.

[Jay Dyer]

You know, true.

[Caller/Guest]

They have to bank. This thing just shoots out stops.

[Jay Dyer]

Guess who got out. Guess who got out of it. George Clinton got out of it. When it's parked, that thing parked and George Clinton popped out. Out. And it was the mothership connection. Y' all let me ride. Swing down sweet yakubian sh of Dr. Funkenstein. Yeah, exactly. Swing down sweet Yakubian ship and let me ride. Come on now. Y' all know that's funny.

[Caller/Guest]

I mean, look, this is unreal. At speeds they've been clocked of up to 25,000 miles per hour.

[Jay Dyer]

That's the mothership.

[Caller/Guest]

Hundred of these little planes. Now the white man knows that they're up there and they're not up there to play. They're up there to destroy the.

[Jay Dyer]

I'm doing some prophesying right now, y'. All. I'm predicting next week's Candace show. She gonna have Louis Farrakhan pop on there. And I'm joking, by the way. And we're going full mothership next week.

[Caller/Guest]

Watch present world now you can take it it or let it alone. Well, white folks are petrified because they can't handle it.

[Jay Dyer]

That's what that means.

[Caller/Guest]

Nothing that they have in science or technology that will enable them to handle these planes. Now more and more brothers and sisters, white people are going to admit that it's their end.

[Jay Dyer]

What's up?

Okay, so let me say a couple things. Something to disagree with you, honestly. Post. Okay, so I guess I would like to say that the orthodox epistemology that, you know, the church proves the church circle is worse than Protestant epistemology in the sense that, you know, orthodoxy claims that the infallible church tradition interprets scriptures and counsels the. Basically the. The church.

Dude, your son's crying because.

Because the church says so.

Your son's crying because your arguments are bad. He already knows you're about to lose.

See, that's not the argument.

No.

What?

I'm.

So basically orthodoxy, you guys. You basically have to it.

Dude, your son's already crying, man. He already knows there's a bad line. Argu. He's trying to warn you.

Son already knows your arguments. No, I cry before it even got off the ground. That's right.

They keep.

It's not the orthodox argument.

Dude, that out of the mouths of babes.

Dude, it's true because the orthodox says it's true. And that's the only way that you can know it's true. That's. Who told you that?

Nobody even made that argument. That's like. Yeah, exactly. Whoever argued, argued well. The orthodoxy is true because the church is infallible interpreter in the Bible. And the Bible says Orthodoxy True because the church says that it's true. Nobody made us just. Okay, whatever, man. What's up, dude? Mr. Cool. I love that. That was perfect. That baby was on my side. Dude, your son is on my side. What does that tell you? Out of the mouth of bays, man. Go ahead. What's up up.

Aj Just wanted to say happy birthday. I hope you have many more. I respect your restraint and talking to these people. It sounds like a lot of those sources are like high schoolers that are smoking weed and watching ancient aliens for the first time.

Oh, that's sounds like what happened with Candace. Yep.

Yeah, that's all I, I just wanted to say props to you for even dealing with it.

Thanks, man. Appreciate that. No, I'm having, I'm having a blast. So I'm over here. I'm. I'm ready for George Clinton to come out of the sky. He brings some of that dank weed down from the sky.

I think we've talked about this before is why would necessarily like fast flying planes be out of the realm of people being able to develop those? Why would you need super knowledge to be able to develop fast flying things?

Great question. You know, and you notice they always make the leap too. It must be aliens.

Yeah, and that's what we used to harp on back in the day too, was like, oh, I saw something in the sky, therefore it's space brothers.

Or like Jordan Maxwell with the pterodactyl over Los Angeles. And then if you go and look up pterodactyl remote control old planes, there's tons of them.

That's true, but he also said he saw a Tyrannosaurus rex in his backyard, so he might be making it up.

Well, I mean, I saw Jurassic park, so I don't know. It looked pretty real to me. I want, I wanted to hear some mothership connection, but. But I know it's going to ding the copyright. You know what I'm saying?

[Caller/Guest]

I am the mothership connection.

[Jay Dyer]

Get down in three.

Can't play no more than that. Let's see. Waffle. What's up, dude? Swing down. Sweet Yakubian ride and let have seen a uap.

I'm an airline pilot, Okay. I was.

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It was a daytime sighting.

[Jay Dyer]

I was flying from Seattle to Anchorage Bridge just on our normal route, and we were at 36, 000ft and it appeared to be at about 35, 000ft.

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And it was. Just appeared motionless as we were cruising.

[Caller/Guest]

At like 400 knots.

[Jay Dyer]

You see who was right? Do you see who was driving it? Sorry, did you see who was driving it? Was it a black dude with, with glasses and aliens?

It's those aliens. No, that is 100 demonic.

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That's the feeling I got from it.

[Jay Dyer]

It was over a volcano. It was a sauce very shiny.

Are you telling me. You telling me George. You're telling me George Clinton can't pilot the mothership over a volcano? Is that what you're trying to tell me?

Snoop Dogg movie where he's a pilot and it's a. I don't know where he's. Yeah, no, it's. It was. I saw dreadlocks coming out of his saucer.

Right, exactly. So this is. It's. It was George Clinton. That's him right there. There. That's who pilots the mothership dummies. Yeah, you're talking about soul playing, but I'm talking about the mothership connection. And if you see a bright, rainbow haired bunch of dreads and a. And a damn mumu. A gown on a big giant black man with a gray beard, you know that's the mothership connection.

[Caller/Guest]

And before you can say it once in a while.

[Jay Dyer]

What? You dig? Dig. Yeah, that's my Bootsy. That's my Bootsy. Hey, John. Dig. He lets Bootsy drive it sometimes.

It's a UAP baby.

It's a UAP, baby. Okay.

[Caller/Guest]

That Elijah Muhammad is a liar. You're going to be seeing these planes over the major cities now. I'm just telling you. So when you see it, don't get crazy. Don't pan.

[Jay Dyer]

Somebody send this to Candace. She gonna be all over this Louis Farrakhan clip, right? Let's see. Michael says we was Yakubian kings. Exactly. Shout out to Parliament, yo. Michael says this. No, we did that one. Michael says $2. Nothing. Great Scott. $10. Happy birthday. Thank you for being a brother Trottin. Odin says for $10. Did you see Drew Ski's mega church skit? It's funny. Yeah, I did see it. I think Druski was watching some. Some Randy Balls skits from Jay Dyer. You know what I'm saying? Uh, we got a famous man here, the quadrant. What's up, Quadrant? What's up? How you doing, dog? Quartering. You want to unmute? Where'd he go? Dude, he left, bro. I was about to bring you up right now. Come back. Where'd you go? Quartering. I brought you up, man. Come back. I know he was wanting to chat, you know.

You know Funkadelic has a theology, right?

I do. In fact, I did a podcast with a former friend on that many, many years ago ago. Quartering. I want. Go ahead.

Fun. Funk is divine. And the mothership is the liberation kind of thing, right? Yeah.

Well, I heard that there is kind of a. An alien. Like an alien theology. Like an exo theology behind it.

Yeah, it's. Yeah, they like. It's. It's something that, like, they. They try. It's kind of like the.

The.

For lack of a better word, they wanted to be like the black Grateful Dead.

Yeah, no, that's exactly right. And that's what we talked about in that podcast, like, 10 years ago. What's up? Quartering.

[Quartering]

Hey, I mean, I don't want to, I don't want to make you rehash it, but I mean, I saw the title and I, I, I was wondering how, how the crash out was going. I don't want, if you, if you already, if you already, you know, talked about it, whatever, that's cool. I'll go back to just listening. But I was wondering how Candace was dealing with the, the new video today that, you know, Lance Twigs, his family came out and said that it was Tyler Robinson. Is, are they also time traveling beekeepers? Is that, is that, is that. I wonder how she's gonna deal with that. I'm curious what you think.

[Jay Dyer]

That's new to me. I've been focusing. We spent the whole two hours just laughing about, about the quantum phone dimensional time matrix splitting and the CIA's portals and all this nonsense. So we've been on that for a while. But I mean, yes, the answer is yes. The, the Sumerian technology was also used by them as well. Correct.

[Quartering]

I had a feeling. I, I came to the source because I needed to have it confirmed by an expert. I, I had a feeling. I, I've been trying to steer clear of Candace's crash out, but it's, it's been, you know, I, I've been watching out. I haven't seen any Egyptian planes over my house. I've been trying to, you know, be careful about accidentally traveling interdimensionally and running into a young Charlie Kirk as Benjamin Button and also any potential for Fort Huachuca connections.

[Jay Dyer]

Right, right.

[Quartering]

Well, I just, I'm trying to keep it all straight.

[Jay Dyer]

Well, enjoy your BB bucks, because that's the only reason you would ever say that is literally just BB bucks.

[Quartering]

Look, I, Why do you think I'm here? I, My mortgage is due on the 17th. $7,000 is $7,000. I mean, I don't, I don't know why anyone really has a problem with it, you know?

[Jay Dyer]

Well, I mean, I think what I'm excited about is where we're going to go next because every episode is like a new episode of the X File. So I think next week we're probably go full Yakub. We're going to have Louis Farrakhan, we're going to have motherships. We're going to have, you know, the P. Funk's going to come down on the mothership. George Clinton, he knew about this a long time ago. He had that dank weed that was the key to seeing into the past and the future through Project Looking Glass. So are you, are you, are you pro or anti Yakub.

[Quartering]

I don't, I, I abstain from my Yakub stance. But I, I am, I know. I had a feeling we'd see Farrakhan at some point. That aligns a lot with Candace. I'm surprised we haven't had, you know, a Farrakhan.

[Jay Dyer]

Oh, I saw into the Sumerian tech. I know what's coming next week, dog.

[Quartering]

You're also a Jewish time traveler who got, who took the check too. So, I mean, it's a, it's been wild to watch. I, I, I, I've been looking at each episode's viewership going down and down and wondering just, you know, she's gonna have to come up with something. Yeah, get her viewers back. So I, I, it's probably going to be big.

[Jay Dyer]

Well, the only bad part is that I have to go back in time with my money because of inflation. I have to go back to like the 80s and 90s for my $7,000 to buy anything that, you know, I tried to tell bb, you know, it needs to be more, but, you know, they're just not, you know, with the war going on, there's no extra monies.

[Quartering]

Well, and they're paying all those influencers too.

[Jay Dyer]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Quartering]

Bots aren't cheap.

[Jay Dyer]

I'll let you get back, I'll get.

[Quartering]

Back to your show. I just wanted to.

[Jay Dyer]

No, I appreciate that.

Upstairs.

[Quartering]

I came downstairs.

[Jay Dyer]

Well, I gave you a shout out earlier because you, Crowder, Alex, me, Andrew. I'm trying to think of the other people that were like, calling this out as total nonsense. And I'm, I'm assuming you get the same phenomena where in the comments, all of the bots are just quadrupling down on the craziest ever.

[Quartering]

Yeah, I hate, I hate to, to bring up bots because people often say, you know, that's a convenient excuse. But if you look at the activity, especially on X, like, like it is extraordinarily heavily boded. I mean, any idiot, can you see any, any, any possible debunking going on? You have like, tiny X accounts getting completely ratioed into oblivion. It's like, how did this even end up on their radar?

[Jay Dyer]

Right?

[Quartering]

And it's because of the, I mean, it's very obvious to me, you know, I, I don't, I don't want to pretend like people aren't interested. Certainly people are, are viewing it. But there's definitely real bots. I mean, that's how I'd spend my money too, if I, if I were like the Democrats, you know, I'd be, I'd be botting the hell out of all these people who are trying to divide the Divide, you know, and conquer. That way it's pretty cheap like Pakistani bots are. I don't. Never bought them, but I can't imagine they cost much, brother.

[Jay Dyer]

They. We do not charge very much at all. Let me ask you one last question before you go. When, when did you start kind of getting into the storyline? Because I was kind of late. I didn't get in until maybe a couple weeks into the Egyptian plane stuff. And I thought, okay, I'll give this a hearing. I'll give it some time and see. And within about a week I was like, okay, this doesn't make any sense. So when did you get into it and what were the first things that really made you question this stuff?

[Quartering]

Well, I was in it from, from Jump Street. I mean, I was live streaming when, when the assassination happened. And so I was covering it pretty, pretty deeply. And so I was consuming basically everybody's content who was talking about it. And I, I think the, she lost me at like the trap doors and the. Oh, yeah, what really, what really sold it for me is, you know, the gun expertise. You know, how it was like no bullet has ever ricocheted in history. Yes, I, I remember that. The, the, you know, Charlie Kirk's magical neck thing was definitely a cringe thing to say. But, you know, I've used, you know, firearms enough in my life. I know you talk to anybody who's been in the military, there's literally a saying, you know, bullets do weird things. And it started, it started there to fall apart. Then there was the B cult and the trapdoors and the Luigi trap, you know, tube transfers. And then I knew it was, it was basically over. Now she's on the TPUSA's human trafficking. I don't know how she hasn't been sued yet that I still think that's how this ends. I think she's almost certainly going to get sued and I don't know what that means if you win or lose, you know, but it's, it's definitely. I haven't watched the last four or five episodes because it went from kind of bad to worse. But I'm all for truth seeking, you know, and I do believe that there are questions. I think definitely Lance Twigs was involved in the planning. I think there are questions on how these other, like, transa groups seemingly knew about the assassination ahead of time and they shut down that investigation.

[Jay Dyer]

Right.

[Quartering]

I think there's good. There's good questions to ask. Bringing on a guy who, like, who's mentally unstable and. No, that's videotape. Like hammering his own car. Whatever the case is, you know, it felt. It fell apart, and now it's like she's like a heroin addict chasing the dragon. And that's why every new theory has to get even more insane.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah, it's a. The next episode of X Files. It gets crazier and crazier here. Appreciate you calling in courting. That's. Guys, be sure and follow quartering. He's done some good responses and assessments of this. I didn't realize he was early in on the craziness jumping. I. I didn't follow Candace's stuff either until, you know, everybody's making a big deal about the planes. And then I was like, all right, I got to check it out. But no, it was. It was. It was just. I mean, once the Mitch Snow guy said that he was a black ops master and his wife. Wife imprisoned him in the garage and broke his thumbs, I was like, okay, this guy. She didn't even bet this guy at all. Okay, P. Our.

I'm a black op master, baby.

That's George Clinton calling in y'. All. I mean, excuse me, that's bootsy. What's up, R6 dig?

I mean, with the Candace stuff, like. Yeah, she's going to. I mean, she's. She's going into, like. He's taking stuff into, like, conspiracy levels of. I don't. I don't even know. Like. Like the. The conspiracy about, like, time traveling and all that stuff. Like, whatever that is. That has nothing to do with, like, the whole Charlie Kirk thing or whatever. But the baseline thing that I look at is just everything with Erica Kirk. If you can't say there's something weird with that woman.

[Caller/Guest]

And.

[Jay Dyer]

Yeah, well, but nobody said that, right? So nobody over here. Appreciate your call. Nobody over here said, oh, Candace is wrong. So TPUSA is good and Erica Kirk isn't odd or weird. No, nobody ever, ever even said that. So people just assume. It's just like, with, like, oh, you don't believe flat earth, so you worship NASA. NASA. It's like everything is a false dialectic. Oh, you critique Islam because you're a Zionist and you work for Israel. Like, literally everything is just stupid, stupid, low, low tier dialectics. Justin, what's up?

T.P. uSA is SUS.

Absolutely. I mean, I did a whole stream called CIA evangelical black ops churches like, two months ago, so what are you even talking oh, you must be. Why are you supporting tpc? What's up, man? Justin.

I mean, hey, Jay.

What's up, man?

Can you hear me okay?

Yes, sir.

I'm a big fan of yours, by the way. I see you on infowars a lot. We actually have the channel through. Through a app that we get to watch love finally being on your space. I just wanted to give you a shout out.

Dude. Dude.

Thanks. But Candace, I. I really haven't taken her serious since. It's kind of like Alex said, like, throwing all the stuff at the wall. I think Nick Fuentes was on a show that day. She is literally blamed like over a billion people, it seems like, for Charlie's death at this point. So this isn't even. I. I haven't even watched the clip. I just wanted to really give you love and just kind of tell people in here, quit taking this. I think you probably have. Most of you quit.

Serious.

Like she's just out for clickbait or. Or whatever it is. She's not serious at this point. I don't know if she ever was. I think this was a thing for her to monetize off of Charlie's death. But big fan. And there. Yeah, there's some sketchy things. But I will say with Erica, for my, you know, looking at it or from my point of view, I think she's, you know, people grieve differently. I know that's not an excuse. There's a lot of weird stuff with her lined up too do. I just don't know how to take any of it. But I do know Candace is not serious at all. Just want to give you some love, man, and a shout out and thank you for the time. All right.

Appreciate that. Thanks, Justin. Yeah, I mean, for the, you know, truth movement or community or whatever. It's kind of sad, but, I mean, that was always kind of silly, but. What's up, man?

Hey, Jay, it's good to hear from you.

[Quartering]

It's.

[Jay Dyer]

I've actually never done one of these before, so this is pretty cool. But. No, I just wanted to ask you if you'd ever heard about Devil Bill Rockefeller before.

Heard what?

Devil Bill Rockefeller. It's William Rock. It's William Rockefeller. It's John Rockefeller's dad. If you ever have done like any research about him personally.

I mean, I have the Rockefeller's biography, so I probably at one point read something about that. Are you talking about the guy who was like the. The con man Grifter?

Yes, the snake oil.

The snake oil. Salvation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, about him.

Yeah, I mean, so it was a. Just a small, quick story for you. I was basically doing a church study with. It was the men's study in our Bible group, and that guy had gotten brought up in a positive manner. I was basically one of the only dudes just kind of sitting there the whole time where I'm like, wait, we're actually putting this guy in a positive fight, like, because this is a Baptist. I go to a Baptist church. But I don't know, maybe that's. That could be the issue.

Well, that's the problem right there, dog. Appreciate your call, though. But that's the problem. Mo, what's up, man? Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's absolutely true. He was a mountain bank. What's up, man?

Good evening, Jay. Hello. Can you hear me? I have a quick question for you.

So.

So this is theological. I apologize in advance, but it's about the Catholic Church and the Gregorian calendar. I understand from the orthodox perspective that, you know, we had a synod in the. I think it was 16th century or a couple of them. But from the Catholics.

Why.

Prior to the schism, would it be. Be, I guess, heretical or sacrilege to change the calendar specifically with Posca? Because I've read the First Council and I've read certain, I guess, their lunar dates on Posca itself. So I'm just curious on your perspective there.

Well, I mean, why. Why would we want to change them?

No, I'm not saying we should. I understand it from our perspective, but I'm saying for us to, like, argue against specifically the calendar itself, would we take, like, a holistic approach to, like, the papacy and so on, or is there any details you can inform me on on specifically the calendar issue?

It's. Myself, this is an issue I'm not super studied on. I would say go ask Father John Whiteford. He's very active on Twitter and he knows a lot about this topic, and he answers this question quite often. So I would say just check out him for the specifics of the history of, you know, what the papacy was up to and why. Frank Friend, France. Francois, what's up? I'm getting a little tired, guys, so we might have to be winding it up soon. I think I have a little bit of a cold, but. What's up, man? Unmute.

Oh, good evening. J. Can you hear me?

Yeah, what's up, man?

Yeah, I have a question about. It's mainly Tag, if you. If you wouldn't mind shifting the topping a little bit.

Honestly, dude, I don't have a Lot of energy for tag. What's, what's the question?

Okay, so we would both agree that the problem of induction is kind of like a kill shot to most schools of atheism. But in the orthodox paradox time, would we agree with Hume on the issue and current like the concurrent scientists who say, oh, the Andromeda is going to hit us in I don't know, a trillion years or something? Would we argue the problem of induction to say, well, how do you know that the laws of physics aren't going to change before then? Or how do you know that your outcome is going to be determined correctly? Or would he. Would we affirm the providence of God would affirm that. But you can't really verify your empirical sense data based off just what you.

Yeah, I think that we, we aren't skeptics. The, the reason that we bring in Hume is to critique the paradigm of the atheist. So we're just saying that if you guys are consistent, you should be a human skeptic. But I don't think that means that we have to in our worldview be human skeptics and think that God's providence will, you know, stop at some point or something like that. So, Baz, what's up? We're going. This is the last few calls here. Thank you guys for calling in. Appreciate it. Wish we got more disagreers, but that's okay. Josiah, Ali run $10. God bless you. Thank you, Josiah. Happy birthday to you Jake25 Happy birthday. Grant you many years. My bet is that Candace's next move to say that Charlie faked it or that he is speaking to her in the spiritual reality or something like that. Who knows? Man B, what's up? Hey there.

I was going to ask a question concerning evolution because I feel, I feel like there's a lot of evidence for it and I'm not really, I, I don't really feel the need to disagree with it. I mean, I really don't believe that like evolution not being real is, is necessary for the gospel to be true. But I was thinking, okay, well, I.

Mean, does Romans 8, does Romans 8 say that death entered before or after the fall?

After the fall.

So, okay, so that answers your question right there.

I did want to ask. I mean, I mean you, you just answered it, but ask another question, I guess.

Okay.

If God made Adam a man and made trees grown and not saplings, see, could he have made like an already old Earth. Earth or. Yeah, like a possibility.

Yeah.

I mean that makes sense to me personally, that he could have made.

An old Yeah, I think most people. Yeah, I mean he creates things with the appearance of age. Exactly. There's no reason that couldn't be the case. Robert, what's up? Octavian says for $2 that last guy before sounded like Cleave, but with hair. Oh, we got people dissing Cleave over here. What's up man?

Robert, hey, can you hear me?

Huh? Oh.

So I just have a quick question about like, so like you see this complete paradigm shift and like Overton window shift in America now with like the JQ and Zionism, like you see all this stuff starting to come out now and it's like popularized and everything. So I guess I was just curious what your take would be, like your opinion. Where do you think the United States is headed? Like do you think we're headed towards like a more Christian oriented government with everything coming out? Or do you think like our government is headed for like complete reform in some sense? Because like you see all this stuff coming out now but. And you see a lot of people start to grasp for like a more traditional Christian perspective and like a more traditional Christian stance on things. So I was just curious what your take would be on like all the truth coming out.

I mean, I don't think that any of those people have any significant political or monetary power. So no, I don't think anytime soon there's going to be some Christian government or resurgence of Christian nationalism. Christian nationalism is a, a failed project from the outset because you're never going to unite all these different competing insane cults and sects into some sort of unified political power that's been attempted multiple times back to the 80s with the moral Majority. It never works. So no, I don't think that's going to happen. But you know, maybe in 50 years if orthodox Christianity permeates America, you could begin to see that, but not anytime soon. Dan Vicious $2. Jay coast to coast Michael, the pilot said for $2 she skitso she took too much K. Jason says $3. I called in a minute ago. I pretend to be Protestant, but I couldn't stop myself from laughing. Happy Birthday. Well, thank you. And I will laugh at you as well. Hahaha. Mo says thank you for steering me in the right direction. I'm curious, is it Agartha or Atlantis? It's Wigs Antium. Dude. Dude, neither one. Cara says for $5. Happy birthday to the Black Queen. Thank you. BS Cyber Analog through Digital Virtual Reality. Okay, this is a Skitso post. I can't even understand what you're talking about guys, remember that we have a show sponsor which is chalk.com headed over to chalk.com see choq.com the best installmentation on the Internet. Use the promo code J60Life. That's J O S 60 L I F E. And get hold of that performance stack right there. Or you can get the email Vitality 2nd or any of the individual products for J60 Life, 60 off J A Y60L I F E. I'm a big fan of the Tong Cataly, as you know. That's my favorite. But you can get that whole stack right there for 60 off. That's the special papal blessing for the Christmas season. Reason by Chalk.com Also remember, you can get started with bitcoin as bitcoin is once again resurging. We had a break point where you could have got it on a discount. As I told you guys, it's discounted for the last six months. Oh, it's going to zero. You're. You're cooked there. Really going to zero. We're almost at 100 again and remember, it's only a matter of time before we're at 200 and then 500 and then a million. I don't know when that's going to be. It could be five years, years, it could be ten years, it could be two years. Who knows? But I believe very firmly in bitcoin. You can go listen to my bitcoin podcast if you're a skeptic. We've done multiple bitcoin podcasts, including the entire book by Sifadine Amos, Bitcoin standard. To go watch those podcasts if you're a skeptic and learn some good monetary principles and get started with Swan Bitcoin in the show description. Swan is a bitcoin only company, but you can use my referral code. Also you can get my philosophy course in the show description with Richard Grove at the Autonomy Agora Marketplace. You can also get all of your esoteric Hollywood needs at my website, Jason Alis.com the shop. You can get signed copies of esoter Hollywood 1, 2 and 3 and the red book. And I'm pretty much cooked. Thank you guys. A lot of fun tonight and thank you guys for all of your birthday well wishes and your generous ferocity. You guys are really generous tonight with the super chats and I appreciate that. Otherwise, everybody have a good night and happy birthday to you all.