Podcast Summary: Jay Dyer / Jake Rattlesnake – Regime Change, CIA Manipulation, Kabbalah

Jay'sAnalysis ft. Jake "Rattlesnake"
Date: January 17, 2026
Main Theme:
A thought-provoking discussion between Jay Dyer and Jake Rattlesnake covering the latest conspiracy claims in alternative media, the mechanics of CIA manipulation and regime change, the roots and influence of Kabbalah, geopolitical power struggles (US, BRICS, Middle East), as well as advice on debate tactics and contemporary apologetics.

Episode Overview

The episode dives into:

• The trend of sensational conspiracy narratives in alternative media (esp. Candace Owens)
• How the CIA and other agencies manipulate narratives and orchestrate regime change
• The recurring use and misuse of “ancient” mystical concepts, like Kabbalah and Sumerian tech, by pop culture figures and theorists
• Realpolitik: US decline, BRICS, color revolutions, and new Middle East dynamics
• Spiritual perspectives on delusion, apologetics, and the growth of Orthodox Christianity
• Detailed, actionable advice on debate, logic, and critical thinking

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Opening and Guest Intro (00:50–03:30)

• Hosts: Jay Dyer (author, apologist), Jake "Rattlesnake" (Rattlesnake TV, independent media)
• Agenda:
  “We’re talking Candace Owens’ ‘looking glass’ theory, ancient Sumerian tech the CIA got their hands on, Charlie Kirk being a time traveler... geopolitics, regime change, BRICS, Kabbalah, and apologetics basics.” (Jake, 02:06)

2. Candace Owens, “Looking Glass,” and Conspiracy Media Cycles

(05:23–13:28)

• Candace Owens’ Recent Claims:
  Candace alleged the CIA obtained ancient Sumerian “looking glass” technology and implicated Charlie Kirk as a “time traveler” involved in government plots.
• Media Sensationalism Pattern:
  “It’s almost like episodes of a drama where next week’s episode’s gotta up the ante... more extreme, more intense ... making conspiracy theorists look bad, like a bunch of idiots.” (Jay, 06:19)
  Extreme claims are self-escalating and distract from valid critiques (e.g., Zionism).
• Assessment of Evidence:
  There is talk in declassified documents of ancient relics, but:
  “Nothing points to advanced ‘History Channel ancient aliens’ tech... it just gets so absurd and there’s no evidence for any of it.” (Jay, 08:28)
• Psychological/Motivational Aspects:
  “Is this disinformation? COINTELPRO? Is she being handled? Is it just grifting? It could be any of those things.” (Jay, 13:03)

3. Gifted Program “GATE”, TikTok Myths, and Elite Grooming

(13:54–15:59)

• GATE Program Reality Check:
  “I was in California in the GATE [Gifted And Talented Education] program... No, I wasn’t in some secret ‘MK Ultra’... that’s nonsense spun by TikTokers.” (Jay, 13:54–14:38)
• Authentic Elite Grooming:
  Real grooming happens via Ivy Leagues and secret societies (Skull & Bones), not basic gifted programs.

4. CIA, “Looking Glass,” and Occult Projects – Fact vs. Fiction

(16:37–20:13)

• Real Projects Referenced:
  • Stargate, Gateway Process = research on remote viewing, mind experiments (‘Men Who Stare at Goats’)
  • Limited success — no real evidence for time travel or predictive “looking glass” tech
• Key Analytical Principle:
  “Just because something’s declassified doesn’t mean it was a real government operation… could just be speculative, could be fake.” (Jay, 18:01)
• On Candace’s Trajectory:
  “She’s locked into quadrupling down... each week’s got to be crazier. She even said the mystical Sumerian Wakanda technology stopped working in 2012. I mean, what?” (Jay, 20:13)

5. Spiritual Delusion: “Prelest” and Media Figures

(21:05–24:45)

• Definition and Example:
  • “Prelest is spiritual delusion... thinking God is talking to me, I don’t need anyone else’s check.” (Jay, 21:07)
  • “She’s influenced by the charismatic vein of Catholicism... feelings = God’s voice. That’s the proof.” (Jay, 21:39)
• Orthodox Perspective:
  Checks and balances in spiritual life (“If I had a vision, I’d talk to my spiritual father... you need that firewall... we’re susceptible to pride.”)

Memorable Exchange:

• Jake: “What’s the threshold breaker here?”
• Jay: “It’s a recipe for disaster and delusion — hence that term, prelest.” (23:21–23:26)

6. Geopolitics: US, BRICS, Pax Americana, and Middle East Regime Change

(27:44–38:56)

• Shifting Power:
  • Rise of BRICS: “Their express goal seems to be to knock the US off as global reserve currency... create their own trading currency, not rely on USD, avoid sanctions.” (Jake, 27:44)
  • US “seizes resources” in places like Venezuela to shore up economic decline and maintain unipolarity.
• Middle East Policy:
  • “US policy follows the ‘Clean Break’ and Oded Yinon strategy — Israel as regional hegemon. Nearly all countries targeted in those memos have been toppled except Iran.” (Jay, 33:10)
• Iran & Prospects:
  • “I don’t think Iran is a pure ‘anti-Western’ force. There’s lots of backdoor deals — dialectic.”
  • “Shia Islam is a little more mystical and apocalyptic — can motivate more radical action... but really, there are no ‘good guys’ at this level, just tribalism and dominance.” (Jay, 36:32/38:26)

7. Kabbalah: Origins, Modern Influence, and Connection to Power/Philosophy

(43:12–54:47)

• What is Kabbalah? Origins:
  “‘Kabbalah’ means the tradition, received knowledge — oral teachings in Rabbinic Judaism, with mystical branches.”
• Neoplatonic Influence:
  “Christianity, Catholicism, Sufism, Judaism — all borrowed Neoplatonic structures (e.g., Porphyrian Tree)... for a metaphysical map of reality.” (Jay, 43:12–44:00)
• Modern Uses and Pop Kabbalah:
  “Anyone within or even outside Judaism could practice it. You see Madonna, Ashton Kutcher... even non-Jews like Aleister Crowley and Albert Pike.” (Jay, 46:50/47:40)
• Kabbalah’s Role in Modern Ideologies:
  • “Hegel was really influenced by Kabbalah... He took the Kabbalistic idea of thesis-antithesis-synthesis into philosophy, and Marx adapted it into dialectical materialism.” (Jay, 50:46/52:47)
  • “Marxism is basically atheistic Kabbalah.”
• Transhumanism, AI & Golem Myth:
  • “For Kabbalists, AI or robotics is a version of the golem — artificial life.”
  • “Ray Kurzweil says, ‘I’ll believe in God when I become him.’”

Notable Quote:

“Kabbalah offers man this ability to, through magic or technology, become his own God. It’s the same Genesis lie — you’ll be your own God.” (Jay, 56:48)

8. Orthodox Christianity: Theosis, Proto-Christianity, and Paganism

(58:28–68:08)

• Theosis vs. Self-Deification:
  “For them, it’s a magical working to become God. For us, it’s participation in the uncreated energies of God — never replacement, always likeness.” (Jay, 59:09/60:47)
• Role of Passions, Death, and the Afterlife:
  • Cleansing before communion with God—shedding passions (ref: toll houses).
  • Ancient non-Christian religions are seen as corrupted proto-Christianity, often devolving into demonism due to the fall and distortion of truth.
• Pagan Practices:
  “In Asia, you see public demon-worship, placating spirits... it’s enslavement. Christ sets us free; we’re not in bondage to lesser deities.” (Jay, 66:29)

9. Debate Tactics, Logic, and Fallacy Detection

(74:19–103:41)

On Learning Debate:

• “Debate is best compared to chess — everyone’s bound by the same rules.”
• “First, learn the informal fallacies. Non sequitur is most common, especially in propaganda and media.”
• “A lot of people react to OTHERS’ debating style — ‘Oh, you’re aggressive!’ That’s irrelevant to whether what I said is true or false.” (Jay, 79:27)
• “Want to be a great debater? Want to lose. Want to love the truth. If you’re wrong, you want to lose and get on the right side.” (Jay, 86:16/89:39)

Common Mistakes:

• Over-reliance on debate “tricks” without solid understanding
• Failing to steelman the opponent’s argument
• Not knowing the full scope of opponent’s view – “A good debater knows the other side well enough to state it to their satisfaction.”

Good Debate Traits:

• Conciseness, clarity, ability to synthesize (“turn complex into simple”)
• Charisma, humor, improvisation
• Deep reading and ability to operate without notes/AI

Top Debaters Mentioned:

• Greg Bahnsen, Andrew (alt-media debater), John Lennox, Jim Bob (up-and-coming), Alex Soren (“Orthodox lawyer/apologist”), Chase Haggard

10. Orthodoxy’s Rise and Community Advice

(107:57–114:03)

• Growth: “Parishes in America are doubling or tripling. Huge surge in interest from men and younger people.”
• Cultural/Community Challenges:
  Orthodox parishes (esp. Greek, Russian, Serbian) can feel insular to outsiders. “They want to make sure you’re serious, it’s not like an evangelical altar call and pizza.”
• Advice:
  • Be patient, take initiative, ask questions.
  • There’s a reason for the “firewall” — “it takes time, and you have to really want it.”

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You could tell what movies [Candace] has been watching lately from her conspiracy theories... Back to the Future, Inception, X-Files.” (Jay, 15:59)
• “Stargate, Gateway Process — they looked at meditation and remote viewing at Stanford. But time travel? Nonsense.” (Jay, 18:01)
• On Kabbalah’s modern use:
  “In a more geopolitical sense — Jacques Attali, Kissinger of France, is a devotee... talks about the ‘Global Golem’ as a hive mind.” (Jay, 47:40)
• “Crowley and these systems offer the same Genesis lie: you’ll be your own God.” (Jay, 56:48)
• “The way to win every debate: first, want to lose. I want to know the truth. If I’m wrong, I want to find out.” (Jay, 89:39)
• “Doing debate requires improvisation. I was a theater kid; that helped with thinking on my feet.” (Jay, 94:35)
• On Orthodoxy’s appeal:
  “There’s an explosion — Associated Press, Wall Street Journal… Our parish tripled in 5 years. But it’s not ‘seeker friendly’ for the sake of numbers. They want to make sure you’re serious.” (Jay, 107:57)

Key Timestamps by Segment

• 05:23–13:28: Alternative media cycles, Candace Owens’ “Looking Glass,” CIA conspiracy escalation
• 16:37–20:13: CIA projects vs. fantasy, how “disclosure” works, Stargate and Gateway Process
• 27:44–38:56: US power, BRICS, regime change models in Venezuela, Iran, Middle East strategy
• 43:12–54:47: Kabbalah’s roots, influence on Hegel, Marx, and tech utopianism
• 58:28–68:08: Theosis vs. occult “apotheosis,” proto-Christianity, ancient religion as demon-worship
• 74:19–103:41: Deep dive on debate tactics, logic, how fallacies manipulate opinion
• 107:57–114:19: Practical advice on entering an Orthodox parish; the challenge and patience required

Conclusion

This episode of Jay'sAnalysis with Jake Rattlesnake offers rare depth in breaking down recently viral conspiracy memes, separating myth from fact in alt-media, exploring how occult and philosophical ideas shape modern ideologies, and providing an experienced, practical guide to apologetics and debate.

Recommended for:
Fans of alternative media, counter-narrative geopolitics, religious studies, anyone interested in learning rigorous debate skills, or those exploring Orthodox Christianity.

Find Jay Dyer:

• Website: jaysanalysis.com
• YouTube/Instagram/Twitter: @JayDyer
• Books: ‘Esoteric Hollywood’ 1, 2, 3; Philosophy texts
• Rattlesnake TV (Jake): [YouTube]