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And it reminds me too that there's, there's other cases in Lewis like this as well. Remember Jadis? Right? Jadis is similar. It just made me think of similar situations because she's like this ice queen, right? And she's not Lilith, but she reminds me of Lilith. And she is summoned with like magic bells. Remember that? And there's, in the first Magician's Nephew, there's these pools that are like portals that you step into the different worlds. I mean, all that's fascinating. I think Magician's Nephew is excellent. It's better than lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. Actually, I think Boy and His Horse is better than Lion, Witch and Wardrobe. I mean, I like the land, the Witch in the Wardrobe, and I understand why everybody likes it. But there's other ones in that series that are, that are a lot better and more interesting and they're, they're, they're all allegorical. But what you have in Paralandra is something way more serious and sophisticated than anything you would find in Narnia. Right? This is, I mean, he's, he's even going to deal with themes of sexuality in the fall. He's going to deal with predestination. And free will. He's going to deal with the mode of being in which Eden and the world would have been if it hadn't fallen. And he's doing it through this literary device of saying, what if Venus on Venus, the. The fall has. Or the. The temptation, or the fall hasn't happened yet? And so the idea is that the angelic beings, even though they're outside of time and space, or they're outside of time as we understand it, maybe they're undergoing a temptation as well, kind of outside of time. And so they're being tempted in their own ways. And that's precisely what Part two is about. So Perelandra is about Weston having to go back, he doesn't exactly know why, on another journey, another adventure. And he has taken to Venus, and he's taken there to meet with the angelic spiritual being, ruler of Venus, this goddess Venus and her king, who we've not met yet, who is, for whatever reason, absent. And I think we will. I will tell you why that is here in a moment. Why I think that is. At the beginning, Ransom mentions different esoteric schools, which I didn't expect, that had spoken of seeing these spiritual entities and beings. He mentions Rudolf Steiner's Anthroposophy. Now, that was odd to me. That was bizarre, because as everybody knows, Steiner was a disciple of Blavatsky, Blavatsky's theosophy crazy cult. And Steiner went in a different direction, created his own cult, Anthroposophy. But it also has this idea of seeing into the spiritual realm and seeing all these different sort of beings and whatnot. And so I don't. Again, I'm not. I don't think C.S. lewis was an anthroposophist, but I think he's saying that what these esotericists are talking about is the same thing that I'm describing to you, which is the same thing that Christianity describes as the spiritual realm, which is not just populated by, quote, angels and demons, but populated by various types of angelic beings, various types of demonic beings. Because, remember, in the orthodox and the Christian view, it's not just, quote, one generic type of angel that fell. There's nine choirs of angels in the biblical revelation, and angels from each of those angelic choirs fell. So there are various types of demonic and angelic beings. So I think that's the theology, the philosophy, the esoteric idea that undergirds this. It is not a. It's not an anthroposophical text, but it's pulling from the notion of anthroposophos that you can, you know, experience the spiritual world. And there's all these beings. That's why I think Ransom mentions that at the beginning. And then we have the, the. An even clearer description. We kind of got this in part one, but it becomes a little bit clearer in part two that the aliens that. Or the beings, the space beings that are being encountered are angels and demons. So Lewis was way ahead of his time in pointing out that the alien UFO type thing that's going on, whatever that is, is at least on one level a spiritual phenomenon, AKA angels and demons. I don't know if anybody else prior to him had even spoken this way. Maybe just guessing, speculating, I don't really know. I'm sure somebody out there has, you know, a better assessment of who would have been the first person to really question this notion of alien beings and tying it to the demonic. Again, who the first person was to do that, I don't know. By the way, this show does keep going by your super chat, so I would implore you, if you do want to see me continue to scream, scream, scream on stream. I do both. I do scream and I do stream and I scream on stream. You can support me via super chats that are done through streamlabs. So thank you to the mods for continuing to put those streamlabs links and I want to thank everybody who did move over to rockfin. We had a huge jump in the subscribers over on rockfin this last week. I want to encourage any of you that haven't moved over there to also follow me and make a subscription account over on rockfin because that is a free speech based platform. It's an excellent platform. They're really good to their, to their content creators and they're kind of, they're basically what YouTube was in 2012. So if you want to go back in time to like Fun, more based YouTube, definitely go over to Rockfin. And they're a great red pill free speech company so they stick to their principles. So again, I'll be reading the super chats here in a moment and we're only going to do the first half as you know, because I put quite a bit of time and effort into this type of a talk. It's a half and half talk. So for those who are interested in hearing the second half of Perelandra and the third book, the Hideous Strength that He Is Strength, the third part of the trilogy, you will need to subscribe to Jay's analysis. It will also be available to the rockfin Subscribers as well. But this is a. This will be a members based talk. And the third one is the most revelatory. Remember the third one? We will have basically the Illuminate Confirm. We will have the Illuminate confirmed, wanting to depopulate explicitly with their Malthusian agenda. So CS Lewis is exposing us to the real Illuminate. Confirm. And now you see why this has never been made into movies and it never will be made into this. You can't have what is the subject of this in a veiled Christian theology out there in blockbuster form. You see, they would never allow that. Disney, you know, they kind of, you know, did what the first three of Narnia. And I mean Narnia is. What's the word I'm looking for? Narnia is kid enough that it's not really that sophisticated. You know what I mean? Yes. Oslan dies, okay? So he dies for the people. Jesus dies for people, right? I mean, that's basically what's going on in Narnia. It's not, it's not super sophisticated in Lion, Witch and Wardrobe, but here it does get more sophisticated. So let's get into this. So Ransom is experiencing Venus and he's noticing that time and space and things don't work the same on Venus like they do on Earth. And eventually he comes to realize when he meets Venus herself and begins to dialogue and debate and interact with her that Venus has not fallen. And so he still doesn't know why he's there, why Christ has essentially sent him to Venus for some mission he doesn't know exactly yet. And he realizes, okay, it's not fallen. And then he realizes after kind of making his way and getting used to the lay of the land and the weirdness of Venus, they're on this sort of floating island that there's different laws for different planets. So the ethics of Venus are such that the inhabitants of Venus are forbidden to sleep on fixed land. So they can go on land, but they can't sleep there. And we don't exactly know why, but that's essentially what the law of Venus is, that Christ gave to it. And so Weston, you know, excuse me, Ransom is fine with all that. He's just sort of mystified and blown away by all of this weird metaphysics of Venus. And then we find a spaceship crashes there. And wouldn't you know, Weston shows up, right? So Weston has also been sent to Venus, but for a different purpose. Weston's trip to Venus is because he is being impelled by the Black Archon. No, it's not David Ike time. The every. Anytime I hear that. Now, I know it's a Gnostic thing, but every time I hear it, it's like, okay, so this is David Ike world now. So the black archon, or the cheetah Uri on Venus, you see the Yeomans on Venus, Satan, who we find out is the fallen ruler of Earth. So Earth's angel fell and rebelled, you see. Again, that's pretty much right. Jesus. When Jesus is tempted by Satan, what does Satan say? All of this is mine. I can give this world to you if you'll worship me. And of course, this, I think, is the true sense of the term archon. All right? That's a term used in not just Gnostics, but it's just a term in the Greek for a power. A deity, an angel, a being, a planetary ruler. So the planetary ruler of Earth, we find out, is Satan, and he's fallen. And he has a desire to lead an attack on Venus because he wants to in this cosmic spiritual warfare. He wants Venus to fall because Venus is still under the dominion of Christ. And the planetary rulers of Venus are still loyal to Christ. But Ransom is sent there with satanic power. Now, excuse me, Weston. I keep getting. Weston is sent there at the impetus of Satan. He doesn't actually know this yet, but he's actually possessed. And his goal is to tempt Venus to fall. And we know that it's not fallen because when Ransom is there, Venus is naked. And for whatever reason, ransom had to be naked because he was delivered there in a silver ice casket or some kind of weird space casket, I should say. And he's naked. Venus is naked. She's a babe. A buxom babe. But he says, I was not tempted. There was absolutely no sexual temptation, he said. That's when I realized, okay, so Venus isn't fallen. And my. My guess as to the fixed land versus sea allowance would be that in the Neoplatonic idea, you would have a gradation of stasis versus change, right? Stasis being better than change. Actually, not just in Neoplatonism. That would be pretty much true for Plato, Aristotle, or most Greek philosophers, right? Unless it was somebody like, you know, Heraclitus or something. Right. Unless it was a philosopher thought that all is flux. The idea of stasis and change, that's the only thing I could come up with with the floating land versus the sea and that you can't sleep on stable land, which was Christ's rule law for Venus, for whatever reason. The only thing I come up with is that in the Neoplatonic or the Greek Hellenic systems, stasis is superior to change. And so the temptation for the beings that were allowed to sleep, or sea beings sleeping in the ocean, their temptation would be, allow me to experience stasis, right? And in the Hellenic dialectic, stasis is superior to flux or change. So the ocean being in constant movement versus land, being fixed in stasis. And it's called fixed versus ocean, right. In the novel, that would be the temptation for them. And that's not the only temptation. Like when. When Ransom. Excuse me. When Weston engages in all these dialogues and debates and explanations and stories trying to get Venus to sin. He uses things like appeals to vanity, appeals to pride. He says, you need mirrors, you need makeup. You need all these things that make you beautiful to you. And so I think there's a conscious pull from the Narcissus mythology, right? Lewis is clearly intentionally referring to Narcissus. I wrote a whole essay, by the way, years ago. I didn't even. I had not read this. I didn't know this was in here. Just on my own research, I thought. Well, if you. If you think about it, the story of Narcissus is kind of like the Fall, right? It's a turn inward. It's a turn to worshiping the self and vanity. And Lewis does that exact thing in this story to. To pull from the Narcissus mythology mythos to make it comparable to the Fall. Because the Fall is essentially not our worship and obedience directed to God. It's a turn inward. Remember, we just saw this in the last live stream that we did where we looked at Genesis 2 and 3 when it talks about God's law and covenant for Eden and Adam and Eve saying, being tempted. Satan saying, no, you will determine good and evil. You will turn into yourself, upon yourself. You will look at yourself. You will worship yourself. And that's what Weston says. Weston says, venus, Venus, baby, we're gonna make you a star. I mean, he's literally. Actually. He sounds like a. Kind of like a Hollywood groomer, right? Oh, we're gonna make you a big star. You're gonna be the. Everybody's gonna be looking at you. They're gonna worship you. You are going to worship you, right? And so Ransom realizes, okay, my job then is to dissuade Venus from falling. So essentially, what we have is the whole Eden story on Venus. It's a mythological, theological telling of the events of Eden on Venus. And Weston represents the serpent figure and ransom represents Christ or the angel messenger. Right. So it's like the angel and the demon on your shoulder, and they're both whispering and arguing and having debates with each other and with Venus. So fascinating concept, right? Fascinating idea, at once theological and also mythological, pulling from all kinds of Greek and classic mythology. But I think what's really interesting is that a big part of this is debate. I did not expect that. You do not expect a novel like this to be engaged in debates. But debate is a big part of this novel. And not just intellectual, rational debate, but also physical battle. The BBC asked him to come and give apologetics lectures and defenses of Christianity, which would become his famous book, Mere Christianity, which I don't think is that great, actually. It's. I mean, it has some prose, but it also has some pretty big deficiencies in terms of theology. But it's well known. It's a classic. And C.S. lewis does at times have apologetic insights. Right. God in the Dock. At times, he'll use even a transcendental argument, believe it or not. So Lewis is insightful as an apologist, but he's not that good of a theologian, ultimately. But he is insightful, and he's one of the more insightful Western theologians from the orthodox vantage point. So he's in this constant debate with the demonically possessed Weston. And that's not my interpretation. Like, Weston froths around and starts having seizures. And, like, his face contorts, he turns into a different type of being who has superhuman energy, superhuman intelligence, which Weston describes as exhausting to debate with. He says that he realized that in debates with Weston he was debating with a superhuman intelligence. And eventually he would become more and more exhausted having these debates. And then he starts wondering, and it starts looking like Venus is going to give in and he's gonna. She's going to sin. And listen to Weston. And Weston. It's amazing because Weston as a character anticipates so many things and movements in religion and theology at that time. The most obvious character that he seems like to me is Teilhard de Chardin. I mean, did anybody else think of Teilhard when you read this? Because it's like the Bertrand Russell. How could we get a more demonically possessed version of Bertrand Russell? Well, who after. Who. Who at that time exemplifies this attitude? Like, literally even saying the things that Weston says? Teilhard, the Shardin. I mean, the idea that fundamental reality is all spirit, all of reality is monistically spirit coming to self realization. This is all the crap. The Gibberish that Weston says, right? He says this to. To Venus and to Ransom. Let's see, I listed several key things, and one of the best chapters is chapter seven. So seven is key because he goes into this detailed explanation of his emergent atheistic materialist, or his worldview has evolved from atheistic materialism to an emergent spiritualism. He says basically that evolutionary dynamism and increasing complexity has shown that reality is moving from physicality to pure spirit. This, he says, is basically a transhumanist movement, whereas where spirit itself, or a, quote, Holy Spirit, he thinks, Weston thinks, has moved him and changed him and enlightened him. He says, I realize now that this entity, this spirit, has guided and chosen me to reveal this and to reveal this force. So notice it's an impersonal. It's not a personal deity, it's not a personal God. It's a force that is the vital life force moving all of reality in an evolutionary scheme to a unity of pure spirit. So it's a Gnostic Teilhard Deshardin worldview. Literally. I have to think he used Teilhard as the model for the demonic theosis. It's like an inverted theosis, right? So it's moving from atheist materialism to. Now Weston exemplifying literal signs of demonic possession, gibberish, talking in other languages, doing weird gestures, superhuman energy and intelligence, facial contortion. I mean, it's. It's not my analysis. He really. He's possessed, clearly, in the novel said that, right. Weston explains that his new, real, new view of reality is a metaphysical one in which monism is the truth, all reality is one. This sequence is all very reminiscent of Screwtape letters, by the way. Weston counters. Excuse me. Ransom counters Weston by saying, well, don't you think that it's possible that just because something's spirit, that doesn't mean it's good? And how many New Ages. Right? This also anticipates the New Age movement decades ahead of its time. How many people think, though, it's spiritual. I'm spiritual, but not religious. Okay, well, or. Or the people that do their trips, right? Acid trips, mushroom trips, dmt. I talk to the angelic be. I talk to the spirit beings. Well, just because something's spirit doesn't mean that it's good. Maybe it's an evil spirit. And it's great because Ransom actually raises all these objections. He's like, well, just because a spiritism is good, but maybe, maybe it's an evil spirit. And then we have. We have an explanation A literary excuse me, Ransom comes all the way full circle, and he says, I realized I am Weston. I keep getting mixed up. Weston, evil, demonic, Bertrand Russell. Deschardin says, I am, I am. I am God and the devil. So he literally goes full Charles Manson in his theology, right? I mean, Charles Manson isn't on the scene yet when this book was written, but it's like literally predicting that Charles Manson's theology, right? I'm the God and the devil. I'm your greatest nightmare and your hope, right? So Ransom goes full Manson. Excuse me, Weston goes full Manson. And then we get the literary device explanation eventually, where Lewis explains that what is myth in one world is fact in another world. So again, saying, the way I'm doing this is on Venus. What we think is myth is actually the way that the physics and the metaphysics of that world works. So it's not multiverse, it's just other worlds or other planets. So everything is represented as an Edenic temptation. We realize that Weston's real goal now is to bring death. So he's motivated now to bring death because death releases spirit from physicality, you see. So the justification for the bringing of death is his end goal. His intelos of this Teilhard de Chardin worldview of everything evolving to monistic spirit, all is one. They have a creative evolution debate in chapter nine, which is bizarre when this gets into. I think this is where it starts to get chapter nine, 10. It moves into a problem of evil debate and a predestination free will debate. And the debate does not end with this being resolved. There is not an answer given. It is basically said to be a form of compatibilism. Again, basically, the orthodox view, we don't fall on either side of that dialectic, but what we don't have is a justification for the doing of evil. You see, it does not make sense to do evil. And so in this story, we get a mythological theological version of the Fall and. Or the ex. The experience of Eden. And we even have interesting experiments with playing with time and space, right? Lewis begins to act like time doesn't work the same or time doesn't work the same on Venus. And so Venus herself, she doesn't really have a concept of getting older. Like, she starts talking about it getting, like getting older, but it's within the span of a few minutes, right? So for her, time doesn't work the same way because again, this is not a fallen world. And although I'm not advocating that literally, it does help us to understand the often asked question of the, of people inquiring into orthodoxy. Well, how did animals or predators exist before the Fall? Right. Do we have, do we have incisors before the fall? Why would we need that if we didn't eat meat? Well, the answer is that the way that our bodies and biology exist now is different than the way that it existed before the Fall. The mode of all reality is different before the Fall. And you can kind of see inklings of this, this cosmic scope of the Fall, a metaphysical alteration in the universe as a whole in C.S. lewis, right, because he's making the spiritual warfare that the Christian believes in, he's making it a cosmic story. And it would also make sense with the notion of the divine council, right, the planetary rulers. That's, that's compatible with our theology of the angels, the, the divine name, celestial hierarchy, Dionysius, and with, you know, what, what Heiser talks about from the Psalms in terms of the divine council. Basically. Just to sum up there, Weston gives, excuse me, Ransom gives the Christian, classical Christian narrative on Providence. He says that God permits evil because a greater good can be brought out of it. That's the Romans 8 view. We get this really weird description of Weston. When he gets possessed, he starts dissecting frogs and ripping them apart. And I think that's just emblematic of the rapacious beast, like, nature of what, what he's become now. And Lewis also describes the demonic possession, the demon in him as a kind of imp, right? So it's not, it's a, it's a, a very intelligent imp. But the imp is also ridiculous and stupid at the same time. I thought that was a fascinating way to describe Satan, right. As both, on the one hand, extremely intelligent, but also at the same time extremely barbaric and brutish and stupid in a weird way, somehow that works together. Anyway, so I think I hit all the main themes that I wanted to get to. There is. So we're halfway, we're halfway through part two, so we're gonna have to stop here. Compatibilism and free will, they end up having a. Oh, the, the next part. Then it moves to a physical battle, right? So Ransom realizes that he wasn't just brought there to have a debate with the demon that possesses Weston, but he's also. Now he's gonna have to engage in an actual battle and he's going to have to be downloaded with like Matrix style moves, like Neo does. I'm not joking. Like, literally he gets like the angelic forces basically download into him, all these different, like, powers. Like Neo has You know, karate and whatever downloaded to his consciousness. So the angels give, you know, Weston, the operating program of karate Exe Jiu Jitsu Exe. It's fascinating, right? The way. The way he plays with this. And they engage in a fierce combat on the backs of fish, skipping around on Venus. So we'll stop there because that's the middle of part two. I think I hit everything I wanted to hit. And remember in part three, it's going to get really neat because part three will deal with the illuminate. Confirm now we're going to move to Earth and it will become this sort of conspiratorial dystopian story on Earth. And that apparently, for whatever reason, throws a lot of people for a loop. I'm going to touch on a couple things here. Part of what we helps to explain this is the notion of the celestial spheres. If you're not familiar, this is the ancient and medieval cosmological idea. A lot of Pythagoreans have this view. A lot of the Neoplatonists have this view that the planetary rulers that are out there, they go in these circles. And the universe, they would think is a kind of musical instrument. View it like a giant musical instrument or symphony that's going in a circular dance. The circular dance is going to be very important for not just the Neoplatonic circular dance imagery of the cosmos and of all the life, all the creatures on Earth, but it's also sung, it's musical. Keep this in mind. The universe is being sung into existence. Notes are being played that give reality or the forms their existence out of potentiality into reality. So it's like. Yeah, there's. The word is spoken. The logo speaks reality into being. But it's not just a monotone. Ben Stein's money. Speaking of reality into being, it's speaking it in a singing way into reality. Where do we see this magician's nephew? In magician's Nephew, how does Aslan create Narnia? He sings it into existence. And so the orbits of the planets were thought to have. Let me find the old, ancient view of this in their spheres and their courses. The idea was that there were notes associated with them. See, I think so it comes up in the Timaeus. The sphere. Yeah. Is the most. The best form. I particularly want to get to the. The idea of them being notes. If you have. Order, is it. If you have this book, it comes up in the quadrivium. It comes up in quadrivium as well. Right. You get to. Towards the end of the book. And it will talk about the notes, the celestial spheres. And the idea here being the universe is not just a giant clock. Right. And you can see like the. The movement of the planets and their orbit and all that. It's kind of like the ticking of a big clock. Right? But it's not just that. It's also a big instrument. So maybe it's both. Maybe it's a clock instrument. And there were. There were some Renaissance people who had. What is the name of the big. Somebody invented a big goofy machine. And I referenced it in the David lynch analysis that we did. What was that thing called? Does anybody remember? The musical instrument is supposed to be like a representation of. Of the universe. Renaissance Neoplatonic musical instrument. Pipes. Yes. Now here is one of the papers that I read. I can't believe this came up. If you want more in. Into this topic. I read this paper 10 years ago when I was researching this neopath. Neoplatonic and Pythagorean notions of world harmony and unity in their influence on Renaissance dance theory. He said, why would that be relevant? Because the universe is a big dance. It's the dance of the created order around the sun being representing God or the Logos in the center and then everything else having its dance around that or around Earth. It doesn't matter which cosmological model you accept. That's not the point. But what is the name of that instrument? Do you guys know what I'm talking about? It's like a weird. It's in my book. Yes. So let me find that. Bear with me. It's worth it because it's in my chapter on season three of Twin Peaks. Yes, Here we go. Robert Flood. What do you know? Who did I pull up? Robert Flood. See, I know what I'm talking about. Like I'm onto something with this. Right? So again, if you can get a hold of this paper. Not this paper. Where'd it go? Renaissance dance theory, Neoplatonic world models. That will help you understand what I'm getting at. I don't want Google images. Robert Floods. Temple of Music. That's what I'm looking for. And remember, in Lewis's is in it Prince Caspian, Caspian's tutor is Flood. Isn't that right? Am I right? Is it caspian's tutor? Or is it. Am I think. Am I mixing it up with a boy and his horse? I get the two stories mixed up sometimes. Because it's been several years since I read the Narnia. Do you guys remember? Can somebody in the chat remind Me if. Is it tutor? I thought for sure it had to be Dr. Cornelius. That's it. Maybe it's not Flood. Or Is it flood? Dr. Cornelius. Who is Dr. Cornelius? That's it. What's his last name? Maybe I'm wrong and it's not Flood. It's Agrippa. Does it say Cornelius's last name at any point? Because if it's not, maybe he may have been referencing Cornelius Agrippa. I'm not going to read all that. Okay. Whether it's Robert Flood or Cornelia Sugarpa doesn't really matter because it still makes the same point about Renaissance Magus type stuff. Temple of Music by Robert Flood as a mnemonic device. So it's this thing here. And you'll notice up there, this what's supposed to be like the celestial spheres. I don't know what's all going down. What kind of party is going on down there at the bottom of this thing. But. I just want a basic rundown. I don't need 50 academic papers. So I guess he had had a dream about this or something. Yeah, we know music is number mysticism. I know, I know. All right, let's see what this guy says. Okay, so Flood had interest in. Yeah, macrocosm. Macrocosm. All the stuff that you know. So here's this big thing. Look at this wild thing. And apparently he had a dream about this, Right? So this, I'm assuming, is like celestial spheres and whatnot. The rest of this have no idea what this is. I mean, it's obviously musical notes and instruments, but, I mean, he got like super crazy with this thing. The temple attempts to synthesize his musical theory, focusing on the use of consonants and dissonance in rhythmic proportions. Flood explained that if you examine keenly the parts of the temple, you will have a share in its mysteries. An extremely experienced master in this knowledge. So it's a mnemonic device for music. Music theory. The symbols are all allegories from the temple referencing Apollo or Pythagoras. And the images are also supposed to have a relationship to the memory palace. I'm sure you know what a memory palace is. But there's. It's supposed to also relate to the Neoplatonic idea that the universe is basically sung into existence. But anyway, I can't find anything on that right now. But that Renaissance dance theory paper that I mentioned does talk about it. 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I don't remember which one they are because I don't have the book in front of me. But it comes up in the ambigua. The first ambigua deals with this, but the easiest readable explanation isn't in Maximus. It's just in Laski's summary of this in the chapter on the Trinity in Mystical theology, the Eastern Church. But he's just pulling it from Maximus and Gregory Nazianzus. Ugon, learn Ugon. Learn them. Can you do a Jordan Pearson impression talking about Funko Pops? Well, you know, my father was always into funko Pops. And you know, it's something that deep down, if you, if you, if you think about it, deep down in your soul, we're all one kind of Funko pop. Perhaps Charles Manson's another kind of Funko pop. I don't know. I don't know. No, I don't know. But it could be. That was really dumb. I don't know. I'm tired, so my mind is not all here. Today it's mush. I got up early for a. An interview, which I was happy to do, but man, it was early. And then I had to drink coffee to do the interview because it was too early. I'm not a morning person. I will never be a morning person. And then I couldn't go to sleep. So my mind is mushroom. So nobody should do morning interviews. But you don't want to say no. No. Door apologist. $60 fat. Super chat. Making it all worth it. So much, so much love for you. Look at 60 love points, guys. You want to show your love? Super chat me, baby. And I felt, look, I did try to sleep, so my hair is all screwed up. It's got like a, a wispy twirl which makes me look like a freaking weirdo. Dude. So bent. Once again, Ben Swan beat me on hair this week. But hey, maybe next week I'll come back with, with hair. That's to die for. Noldor apologist says this is going to be good. I've been waiting for this one. Yes, it. This was a long one in the mix, right? We've been waiting a long time to do this. Hopefully if we get a good enough feedback, if I get enough super chats love points. I'll do more. I mean, I got stacks of lit, dude. I could. I can ramble on about lit just as much as long as we can about movies, but nobody reads books anymore. But now that movies are turning to pure garbage, maybe people will start reading books again. I don't know. We'll see. But I mean, we could do. I was pulling out some other books that remind that I was reminded of reading the Space trilogy. And there's obvious ones, right? I mean, it's a lot like 1984 in ways. Except again, Orwell's book just leaves you feeling hopeless, right? I mean, it's not. There's nothing Christian about Orwell's book, even though it's amazingly prophetic and accurate. Foundation. I mean, foundation is interesting and predictive in certain ways, but I mean, this is just like pure science. Like, this is like the Soy Boy sci fi, right? I've not watched the TV show Foundation. I kind of enjoyed this book. I didn't enjoy foundation enough to keep reading the foundation series, so it was kind of boring to me, believe it or not. I don't know. I know there's a lot of people who would hate this, but Ayn Rand actually has a decent sci fi story. Dystopia story. Anthem is a good sci fi story. If you've not read Anthem, I recommend it's pretty good now. Yeah, it's going to be tainted with the goofy kind of libertarian ish ethos stuff. I'm not saying I like everything about. I don't like everything about indie stories. They have different reasons why they're good. But Anthem is. I thought it was a pretty good dystopia story. And I'm not. I'm not the hugest, biggest Ayn Rand fan, but. But Anthem is pretty good. But you can make that decision if you want. Brave New World. Everybody knows about Raven. The world. I mean, just think about the contrast of these various dystopias. I mean, again, another hopeless story, right? Huxley's dystopia is completely hopeless. 1984, completely hopeless. Ayn Rand's dystopia is not hopeless, but it's like, oh, the hope is the power of reason. Come on, dude, really? I mean, that's the very thing that Weston represents, right? Asimovs. I mean, it's not really a dystopia, but other than the predictive elements, I don't really see much value and foundation, right? So it's unique, right? Christian Dystopia literature, not a genre that really took off. But thank you so much, Noldor. I appreciate the big fat super chat DP $10. Thank you for helping me in my journey to becoming Orthodox. Hey, many years. Awesome. Glad to hear that. Shout out to DP. Much appreciate that. Super chat dog. Frankie D. $10. I'm going to miss most of the show in airplane mode. He's probably not even on a plane. He just wanted to say I'm intentionally putting my phone into airplane mode to miss your show. I'm just joking. The Wibble Wobble. The. The Wibby fl. The Wibble Flubbies were pretty funny. Thank you. I've made fun of stupid British slang and terminology for a long time, so we're gonna coast and milk that one as much as we can. Frankie D. $5 is interesting that the esotericists describe the spiritual realm, but they are aligned with evil. Right? But a lot of them don't know that. Right? They don't. They. They're deluded. So they, they. Many of them think that they're doing good or they justify it or whatever. So that's the power of delusion, is that we can actually believe or, you know, that, well, I'm doing good, I'm not doing evil. And, you know, you might not even know that you're that evil. Right? That's the power of delusions. I've encountered various mythologies and noticed that there's a common theme. They seem to be the story of the cosmos from the perspective of the fallen. Yes, that is correct. I think typically Gnostic stories, the Gnostic mythology and ethos, which people who follow my channel, my books, we've covered this many, many times for countless times, for years. Hollywood typically represents the Gnostic story, right? The bumbling, goofy, idiotic creator deity who's removed and useless to the creation. There's the rebellious hero, anarchic figure, the Lucifer character, who's the hero, the savior who fights against the bumbling creator, Roy Batty Tyrell. Right. How often do we see that Gnostic version of the story? All the time. And so I think you're totally right, Frankie D. And it's a point that I've made for at least 10, 15 years. Son of Tiamat. $10. Can you recommend fantasy? I mean, I'm not a big fantasy person. I mean, let's be honest, most of this fantasy crap is like fake and gray. Totally. Right? I mean, who's that one woman that was, remember the woman connected to the serial killers, the Mists of Avalon woman and her daughter. Her daughter became a Christian and Said that's all a bunch of pedos. So, I mean, there, there are some good fantasies novels and writers, I guess, but good fantasy writers. I mean, I think Philip K. Dick is great in various ways, but he's very gnostic in his cosmology, for sure. We. I do intend, by the way, to do this same type of analysis that we're doing right here. I'd like to do that with Philip K. Dick stories too, so. But that's not fantasy. Fantasy. I mean, I can remember fantasy novels that I liked when I was a teenager and in. In ways they were interesting and fun. But most fantasy stories typically tend to be seeded with pagan ideas and really stupid stuff like, remember. I remember just immersing myself in Terry Brooks and the Sword of Shannara and that whole series. And although I enjoyed it, I felt like this is really just a copy of Tolkien. I mean, it's like all the fantasy writers just sort of copying Tolkien in various ways. And then I remember trying to read Marion Zimmer Bradley and I was just like, this is terrible. This is just a bunch of feminist witchcraft. Witchcraft. Not just witchcraft, but witchcraft. So, I mean, mo. No, most fantasy is just garbage. Dude, I don't know what to tell you. I'm sorry. I'm sure there's plenty of good Christian fantasy writers out there. I just don't know who they are. So I. I can't. I mean, other than like Tolkien and Lewis, I just, off the top of my head, just don't know. Frankie D. $5. The story of Zeus borrows from the overthrowing of the Father and becoming the new God. Yes, is correct. The theme of imparting knowledge to humans. Yeah. Prometheus. Yeah. You then say Prometheus. Exactly. Is portrayed as the one who saves and illuminates humans. Yes, exactly. These are, These are all. Yeah, clearly, you know, Lucifer, Satan, derivations. Thoughts of a pilgrim. $5. Thank you for doing this. The story needs more coverage. Yes. This is overlooked, I guess, because it's Christian. I mean, the themes are more Christian than Narnia. That would be my guess as to why many people have not been told about the space trilogy or it's. It's overlooked. Or Narnia is just so popular that people just forget about it. But it is good. It's. It is different. I will say it's. It's not what I expected. I thought it would be like Narnia in space. And it's not that it's more serious and more sophisticated. Which is not to say that I dislike Narnia. I like the. I like it a lot. But it's. It's. Adult is not the right word. It's just more sophisticated. Gaylord F. $1 yo was the orthodox position of foreign knowledge of predestination that they are compatible. So how that is, we don't know, but is revealed to be. So the Calvinist position is gnostic. Thus I am curious what the Eastern view of those passages is. Well, we affirm both things, right? Scripture says on the one hand, God is sovereign, his foreknowledge, and providence extends to everything. And yet humans do have free will. And for orthodox, we just simply accept that there is a compatible position there. Somehow they work together. How? We don't know. We don't know the mechanics of that because it just simply is beyond human comprehension. And that actually comes up in I think, what, chapter 9 or 10 of Perelandro. And he builds CS Lewis basically gives the orthodox view. Valentine. $5. Wonderful stream. I went to a Funko Pop free bookstore. I'm sorry, why did you even go in there? Oh, a Funko Pop free bookstore. I thought you meant like you were getting them free. Like, dude, if your bookstore is giving out Funko Pops free, it's over. But you're saying that this bookstore had no Funko Pops. Hey, thank God for that. I found David Rockefeller's memoirs. Yes. Do you have videos dedicated to this book? 2 of the 1. 1 of the Alex 4th hours was dedicated to that book. I don't have one on my YouTube channel that I can recall dedicated to that book. No, but there is one of the hours of the fourth hour of AJ that is the memoirs or largely pulls from them. Frankie D. $5. This sounds a lot like the Lord Voldemort mythos when he was on Joe Rogan. It kind of is, yeah. I mean, I have no idea if Alex has read C.S. lewis's space trilogy. He could have. I don't know. But now that you mention does kind of sound like that. Yeah. Interesting. The force of good and evil. God moving in a certain direction. I can't remember all of it. Yeah, I don't remember all of it either. I listened to all of that and the second one, so. And then we did a boiler room, I think around the time when that happened because it was, you know, just a huge podcast. It's like the biggest podcast of the time. Most views. And I should do like a. I should just do like a five hour rockfin live stream of that whole podcast. But yeah, I see the connection there. I didn't think about that. But I think you're right there. Maybe Alex is red peralandra. Pano Costro is $3 on the Angelic notes. Byzantine chant is inherited by the ancient Greek music musical system for first formulated by Pythagoras. Yes, exactly. Thank you so much. Cosmo Cosmos. Panos Cosmatos. Pano Costuros. Right. Who directed. Are you the director of Mandy? No. I'm joking. Yep. So Pano is backing up that Byzantine chant has the same derivation of the Pythagorean model of the notes connected to the celestial spheres. Don Damascus recast this into our eight tone system. Wow. I did not know that. And it closely, closely mimics what's supposed to be the angelic chorus. Wow. Awesome. Thank you so much, Pano. Because I was actually floundering there and I couldn't find what I was looking for in terms of the. The celestial sphere. So that. That helps me a lot there. Thank you so much. And then Pano says again, for $2, the eight tiered, loopable system is reflected mathematically in harmonic Siri in the harmonic series. This is really freaking cool. Didn't Plato describe the forms like this, too? Yeah, so the Tamaya speaks that way. So. Yes. Rossi, Ross, Roscoe, Picot Train. By the way, that's a good Roscoe, wasn't it? What is your take on Gurdjieff? I think he's just a kind of a perennialist, a New Agey guy who sort of cobbled together a bunch of different things in a kind of hodgepodge. So I don't have. I'm not too. I'm not into Gurdjieff. Is he not a legitimate spiritual source? I think that any of the perennialists, any of those people have insights. I mean, I've got. On my bookshelf, I've got shoe on Gurdjieff, and I don't have Gurja. Excuse me, shoe on Ganon, Evola. I've got more perennials up there. So. Charles Upton. They're insightful, but I don't think any of those perennialist people really gets the main point, which is Christ. I mean, that's the. That's the key thing for us. Right? So, I mean, you can have all kinds of insights from people like that, just like you can have all kinds of insights in Neoplatonists. But if they're missing the key thing, which is Christ, then it's kind of like you're missing the point. Right. But thank you for that question, Roscoe. Picotrain all right, Part two. Remember, if you want to see part two, head on over to Jay's analysis and you can subscribe there. It will not be up tonight. It will be a couple days. I'm still working through finishing the space trilogy. And then I'll have the final talk where we'll cover the rest of Perilandra. And then we'll get into what I think is really fascinating. That hideous strength, the one that everybody says, what is this about? It's obvious what it's about. And if you know about the conspiracy element of what's really going on in the world, if you know about Malthusianism and so forth, then it's obvious what the third one is about. And C.S. lewis, I think, is clearly telling us that. So look for that in the next week. It might take me a full week to do the part two. Don't message me, email me. When's part two? Where's part two? Okay, I'm telling you right now, it's gonna be a while. Every time I do this winds it up. I'll get a message tonight. It's part two up. Don't message me about part two. It will come, I promise you. Diet soda, light, $5. I'm just finishing the excellent. On the human condition by St. Basil. Would you do a stream on this? You know, I don't think I've read that. We did a live stream two years ago on most of Basil stuff where I did. On the Holy Spirit, I did Against Eunomius by Basil. We did all of the. The key letters or most of the key letters, but that's just what's in the shaft set. Except, well, against, you know me. This is not in the shaft set. That's the cua press. So. But no, I don't think I've actually read that unless it's like, homilies or it's actually selections of letters. So if it's its own work, I've not read it, but it would be a good idea. I haven't been back, visited St. Basil since, what, like two summers ago, so maybe it would be a good idea to revisit St. Basil. All right, thank you guys so much, everybody. I hope you enjoyed this. Please hit like and share comment below. Tell me what you think. Tell me what I missed. And again, I did. Yes, because some. There'll be 50 nerds coming on here telling me that I got Flood wrong. It's agrippa. Excuse me, Dr. Cornelius is probably Cornelius Agrippa. It's not Robert Flood, but Robert Flood. Is the guy who came up with the universe being a musical instrument thing, musical temple or whatever, and Aslan sings creation into existence. So I'm not off on that. That's the Renaissance Platonic Pythagorean theory that Pano was talking about. So I was basically right. But sometimes I get details wrong, guys. Okay? And guess what? Everybody does. You don't have to correct me in 50 comments. We got him exposed. He has no clue what he's talking about. He got something wrong. Got him. We got him too.
