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Pt 1 Spy Debate! Kiriakou Vs Bustamante REVIEW & ANALYSIS & Candace & Teal Swan: I Cry Laughing
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Today we do something a little different but with our classic debate analysis spin - a SPY DEBATE! What happens when a whistleblower debates an establishment person in the domain of espionage and geopolitics? Enjoy! Full pod is here...
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Hobbit Song Performer
Crying little man tears crying cause I move crying cause I'm a little a with a sassy face Sassy little backpack full of them bu sp little limbo spread Put on a little bit of lemon spread lemon spread on limbo spread it be you. Feeling all now tears feeling all your fears Willow vs Evil Witch Nasty little son of a bitch Willow vs Evil Witch Sassy little bit sassy little backpack Sassy little fragging Elijah wood packing where.
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Main Commentator
You know I should.
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Hobbit Song Performer
With my stuff. Love with the hobby don't you try to stop it throw a little hissy fake cause I'm in love with a hobby. Ram. Oh I'm in love with a hobby don't you try to stop it throw your little hissy fit cause I'm in love with a. I'm on elf Feeling all of your fears crying little mantis crying cause I oh crying cause I'm a little a with a sassy fist full of limbo spread full of limbo spread Put on a little bit of limbo spread on limb sp stress.
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Main Commentator
Feeling.
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Hobbit Song Performer
All our fears feeling all your fears. Willow vs Evil Witch Nasty little son of. Willow vs Evil Witch Sassy little Sassy little backpack Sassy little fr. Back in Elijah Wood pack A little in the spread Cake a little in the spread Goes good with mustard. Love with a hobby don't you try to stop it. Don't you try to stop it.
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Main Commentator
You. Don't you try to stop it. Don't you dare never, never try to stop. Double double negative Double double hobby backpack. Sassy little Frodo. Y' all remember when Frodo got that ring? He's sassy as hell when he's got that ring. Just sassy. Just in a damn hangry mood. And then Samwise tries to cook him up a brace of coneys. Some brace of Coney's. Mr. Frodo. And it still doesn't calm his hangriness. Frodo's just a damn period PMS that whole time with that ring, dude. That's what that song is about. I'm in love with a hobby. Don't you try to stop it. We got a treat for y' all today. But listen, before we get into the dry technical meat and bones. I'm in a. I'm in a. I'm in a mood, a little bit of a mood today. Everybody's going insane and I just don't know what to do other than to go insane along with everyone, I guess so. Don't you try to stop it.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
Ooh.
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Main Commentator
I'm in love with a hobbit. Don't you try to stop it. Sassy little backpack. By the way, he's got that little sassy little backpack. He's styling, Frodo. Styling. He said, I got the ring, I'm a badass. I don't need nobody talking. I can go invisible if I want. I could turn invisible and go watch you while you go pee pee. And you can't do nothing about it because I got the ring. That sassy ass attitude. I'm ready for some of this. This is what I'm feeling today. Look at my eyes and see if you think I'm playing Do I look like I'm playing today? Mormon space wives let's create new lives Mormon space wives. Our God has a body It's a very tone body.
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Hobbit Song Performer
Mormon space wise Mormon space wise Sa. Magic under.
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Main Commentator
Mormon space wise. Lords of cola Let me have intimacy with you on the planet of Neu. Magic underwear it's so tight. Magic underwear feels so right. Mormon space wise Creating new lives. Moment space wise. Oh, I feel that one. I Feel that one. You know what I mean? I feel it deep down. Lords of Kolob, how y' all feeling today? You think that's the jam? It's hard to pick the jam. Well, it could be the jam of 2026, I think it came out right around, right around the new year. So we got some popping off. Crane score right away. Right moment. Space wise, let's create lives. Mormons space wise. God the father has a body. It's a very toe body. He looks good. Mormon space wives Mormon space wives Space space Magic underwear fitting tight. Magic underwear is feeling right. Mormon space wise Mormon space wise. I would like to have intimacies with you on the planet of Naboo. All right, which. Which version you guys like better? Because they're both pretty hot.
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Out of your FICO score. We got people that are going to favor the robot version. And we got people that are going to favor the more raw David Bowie version. You're laughing out loud. What the hell are you laughing at? Ain't nothing funny happening right now. This is serious, son. We had a couple requests y' all were missing. Panty Costa, some of the other classics. Okay, okay, we'll give you Pentecostal. I was born in Romania in a Christian family. Pentecostal. Pentecostal. I was born in Romania in a Christian family. Pentecostal. Pentecostal. That's a damn charge right there. That's how I put a charge, son. We about to have an eyes wide Shut church. My. In the basement, too. That's what. That's what they call the after party. Y' all ever heard of the after party? You know what I'm saying? I was born in Romania in a Christian family. I was born in Romania in a Christian family. Pentecostal. Pentecostal. I put my key in the ignition. Fire. Fresh out of the kitchen. I put my key in the ignition. It's a freaking weekend, baby. We about to have some church. I was born in Romania in a Christian family. Pentecostal. Pentecostal. I was born in Romania in a Christian family. Black kings, black bishops, black players. People of the chocolate persuasion. Black kings, black bishops, black players. People of the chocolate persuasion. Black kings, black bishops, black players. People of the chocolate persuasion. Black kings, black bishops, black. Black players, People of the chocolate persuasion. But the dark ages was a time when black people ruled Europe. So when you go into the real history, you'll see King James was. That's King James right there. That's Jay lebron. That's King lebron right there. Black. He was not a white guy. You'll see his whole lineage of kings. Black kings, black bishops, black players, players. People of the chocolate persuasion. Black bishops, black players, People of the chocolate persuasion. Black bishops, black players, People of the chocolate persuasion. Black king, black bishops, black players. People of the chocolate persuasion. Who was a homosexual himself, who was in love with his sister Lucretia, who they made the image of Lucretia to be married. And that became the Renaissance era. Lucretia. So hold on. You telling me Lucretia, that's a black name right there? How you gonna say that the people that was framing the black people were also black? That don't make no sense. Lucretia is a black as hell name. Lucretia. Church didn't allow it. You know, the church allowed for straight pimping. That's right. Welcome. Church allowed for straight pimping. When we had. When we had our minds, right, when we had our minds, right, the church was allowing for straight pimping. Now we got. We got dang trans bishops, you know what I'm saying? Everything is off. We got to go back to that healthy times, you know what I'm saying? Welcome, everybody. Enough of that nonsense. It's time to get cereal up in here. We're about to get cereal. We got a lot to talk about today. Got a lot of informations, a lot of drama. So I came across this spy debate and I thought, we haven't done a debate review in a long ass time, so why not do Something new. And these are both interesting characters to say the least. You have one who openly proclaims his loyalty to the CIA still Andrew Bustamante, whom we have covered many times on the channel. He blew up across YouTube a year or two ago. Suddenly. Suddenly these CIA whistleblowers flooding YouTube everywhere. So we're going to talk about a unexpected interesting debate. I didn't expect this to be a debate. I thought, what. What are they going to be talking about? Then we have the other CIA whistleblower who is opposed to the CIA, John kiriakou, along with several other noted whistleblowers of recent years. You have people like Larry johnson. You have Snowden from the nsa. You've got. There's another. There's another CIA whistleblower guy, that's his name is escaping me. He's a guy that Alex used to have on quite a bit. But every now and then you get these sort of CIA whistleblower types. Now I'm assuming John kiriaku is Greek and he did. I think he was involved in an operation in Greece where he says there was an assassin. I think it was an assassination attempt on him. And my assumption would be that his lineage is orthodox, but I have no idea. He could be an atheist, he could be evangelical. He does presently have a show with sputnik which is of course Russian media and sputnik typically does pretty good accurate reporting and information. We're going to talk about media outlets here in a second. And are you. Are you denying your country by going to work for Russian state media? If you. If you were on rt, you know, some years back I was on a couple RT shows and interviews and I would hear this quite frequently. Oh, you're a Russian agent because I saw you on rt. Yes, everyone who's on rt, whether it's Larry King or whether it's Alex Jones, anybody who ends up on RT must be a Russian agent. Even though countless people have done media interviews on every possible outlet. Only when you're on RT are you suddenly a Russian agent. But we have to keep this in mind as well. And I'm not at all dissing John Kiryaku, but there are also fake whistleblowers. And I'm not saying that he is because until I see some, you know, evidence or something like that. If you remember some years back there was Robert David Steele, the so so called CIA whistleblower who Alex had on. And initially Robert David still was saying plausible things and then suddenly he said, oh, and the reason that there's t r a F f I c k I n g of youth people is because they're taking them to slave colonies on Mars. And this ended up being a big disinfo nonsense bunch of gibberish that made Alex have to deal with and explain. You know, once this guy said this on the show, I had to let it go because it was obviously too ridiculous. Interesting, because that's exactly what we see happening with people like Candace today. They will lay out plausible information and then it gets crazier and crazier and crazier. That's exactly what Robert David steele did. So there are fake whistleblowers. Again, not saying that that is the case with John Kiriakou, But regardless. So kiriaku is officially Greek orthodox. Okay, regardless. We're going to analyze the exchange that they have because we've done so many religious debates. We've done Jordan Peterson versus everybody, Sam Harris versus everybody. We've done Richard Dawkins versus everybody. We've done cosmic skeptic. What about something different? What about spies debating? I've never actually seen a spy debate, so this is the first that I've ever seen of this. And they're on this podcast which tends to constantly push out these satanic weirdos like amon Hillman and all this. This Danny Jones guy. I've never actually watched the full podcast, but I've seen clips and he's always got these gnostic satanist weirdos on here. You know, a lot of people just. I. I mean, whatever. So we're gonna analyze the key points in the debate and then we're going to shift over to the. The fuller discussion because I don't know if the debate gets extensive or not. And we're going to analyze this from the debater's perspective. Yeah, I mean, we're going to see some really interesting. And I want. What you guys are going to do with me is we're going to learn debate through this type of an analysis. You're going to see how we pick apart what's happening and we're going to notice fallacies. We're going to notice emotional deflections. We're going to notice, you know, techniques and tactics versus actual solid argumentation. So I saw 15 minutes of this. Hopefully there'll be more of it in the longer podcast and you guys are going to get to learn. And these have been some of the more popular videos that we've done on my channel over the years when we do debate analysis and review. And it's going to be fun. Now, guys, remember, you can support the stream through super chats and you can do that through streamlabs. There's the streamlabs link right there and I want you guys to remember everything that we've talked about in the past. Now if you would like to learn philosophy and get better at debate, I do have a full philosophy course which you can buy in the show description. It's the link that is the Autonomy Agora Marketplace and it's done through my buddy Richard Grove. You can get 12 lectures, 12 courses. They're both, they're all about hour and a half, two hours each. So it's 25, 30 hours worth of lecture material. We have a couple guest speakers, PhDs etc that come on and I think you guys will enjoy it. If you're interested in a full on philosophy course packed into all the western philosophy packed into 12 lectures. Before we get this though to this, I know we're not going to always talk about this, but it just gets crazier and crazier. I didn't even know there was other crazier things that Sweet Candy had said and I'm gonna play it because it gets even dumber. I saw a couple people referencing this and I had no idea what they were talking about. But apparently there's some other conspiratorial things that she has mentioned that are worth repeating. Let's take a look. We're not going to play the whole thing, but check this out. You're gonna get kick out of this.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
Send him to this X Men school. That's the best way I can describe it. A lot of weird things used to happen to Charlie. He would go on runs. I think I told you guys this after sundown and when he was street lights would go out like it was like he was in a burst of energy, like he was a lightning bolt or something.
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Conspiracy Theory Commentator
Like Candace Owens has the deep state panicking again because she's finally exposed the truth about Charlie Kirk being a time traveler, energy ball, X Men character. Which might seem crazy to somebody who trusts the Fed slop narrative, but, well.
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Main Commentator
And again, we know this part, but there's going to be some new nuggets in this that are going to be.
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Conspiracy Theory Commentator
Pretty funny if you've been paying attention to the Candace slop narrative. You know, this all makes sense. And people just think it's crazy because they know Candace is getting close to the truth. I mean, she's right on the money with this. Just like with the Egyptian planes, the beekeeper cult, the maroon T shirts in Fort Huachuca. Now it's all finally coming together.
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Main Commentator
I didn't realize there's another theory of the beekeepers. I saw people making jokes about this and I'm like, what is the beekeeper thing? Well, apparently she found a picture of somebody, I guess in in the Charlie Kirk Miasma wearing a purple beekeeper. So there's a secret society of beekeepers involved in it as well.
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Conspiracy Theory Commentator
This one's new to me and the Feds know that. That's why they're so worried. Like, once Charlie visits Candace in another dream, it's over. That's the only reason why people are making fun of her. Because obviously the only reason you'd mock somebody who thinks they can speak to the dead in their dreams is because you know it's true. So hopefully Candace continues to pursue.
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Main Commentator
Now this is he's right on the money, right? Because all of these Candace cult people who've been after me for the last month, calling me out, cussing me out, literally just anything you could, just acting absolutely batshit crazy, the only reason you would go against her is because she's on to it. Right. So that further proves that she's correct, right? You opposing her proves that it's right because that means that she's right. I mean, mean, it's an unfalsifiable cult mindset, right? And we've talked about this from a logical perspective. Anything that's unfalsifiable and meaning it's not actually unfalsifiable. But what people do is they construct systems that have all of these firewalls that make the system unfalsifiable. It's not actually. But in terms of wordplay and playing games, it's unfalsifiable. And that signifies a really weak worldview, weak system. If your system was true, if your belief system is true, then it can hold up to scrutiny, it can hold up to investigation, challenges and questioning. But if your system is weak, your worldview is a weak ass paragraph situation, then a weak ass paradigm, then you have to construct these firewalls that immediately go off to protect the system from any criticism. And the attitude and the actions of the people in this situation are so absurd, so lazy, so ridiculous. And we've already had what I'd say in the last few weeks. We have maybe five Candace defenders call in and none of them are rational. None of them can make a coherent, consistent case. They literally just go on and on and on. Like this woman here. We got one right here. Oh, look at this guy. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So it's. And it's the wine moms. It's a gigantic wine mom box wine, Virginia Slim, you know, gossip, sewing circle cult that are just fundamentally absolutely have no use of reasoning. They have no, they do not have the faculty of reasoning working. And so let's hear about the beekeeping cult and pay attention because we're going to notice more fallacies here as well.
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Conspiracy Theory Commentator
This because she's definitely onto something here. And you tell people are worried about.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
Her dreams was operation lol. Candace has dreams. Why is she, why did she talk about her dreams? How dare she discuss her dreams. Only weird people have dreams and then tell others about them.
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Main Commentator
Now this is more of the Roman Catholic charismatic stuff and I'm not joking because she's going to point out that Charlie came to her from purgatory in her dreams. That's what she believes. I didn't even realize that it was explicitly tied to the Roman Catholic charismatic gibberish. It actually is. Okay, so this is the problem with Roman Catholicism in general. One of the key components that sets it off against orthodox Christianity is Orthodox Christianity typically is skeptical and does not listen to dreams and visions because we know that we are susceptible to being deluded. And going into pre lust Roman Catholicism because of its last 500 plus years of histrionic women saints is the exact opposite. They are the proto charismatics who have actually adopted charismaticism and now rely on mystical visions and senses and intuitions and dreams, which are notoriously not reliable. But in Candace's mind, dreams of Charlie Kirk coming to her from purgatory are actually evidences and proofs.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
Dreams are ridiculous. They shouldn't be listened to. So the question.
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Main Commentator
No, that's exactly right. They are ridiculous and should not be listened to. That is the orthodox patristic perspective on dreams. That is what any spiritual father will tell you comes.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
Who exactly is making these terrible PR decision decisions, like who thinks, yeah, what we need to do today is we have to attack the dream. Just go at it and do not let up on the dream. I think I know the answer. I think it's someone who feels personally victimized by the dream. Show of hands. Who feels personally victimized. Victimized by Candace Owens's dreams.
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Main Commentator
I mean, absolutely absurd. Non sequitur. What does that even mean? That we want to shut her down from listening to her dreams? Because I feel victimized by her dream. I don't even know what that means. The sentence doesn't even make sense. Sense.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
And to be honest, it's sort of hilarious that I didn't put two and two together. I was having incredibly vivid dreams. I began dreaming like I had.
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Main Commentator
I mean, weren't you in the midst of multiple, you know, babies popping out? So I'm. I'm assuming the body probably has all kinds of chemical reactions going on. Is that not also probably a likely explanation for vivid dreams? Or maybe it's because you fell asleep watching Stranger Things on Netflix and then woke up thinking that Stranger Things is the key to understanding Charlie's murder and assassination, because clearly he's l. Right. Maybe that's what's going on.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
Dreamed since I was a child because it was every night. Dressed me out. I expressed that to my husband through many tears. He told me that I should consult a priest, which I did. And we spoke about souls in purgatory.
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Main Commentator
So allegedly, she spoke to her traditional Catholic priest about these dreams and visions. And does the Roman Catholic priest, Father Bruce. What does Father Bruce tell Candace? Well, it's just definitely got to be about Purgatory. Honeychild. It is purgatory. And that's where Charlie is. He didn't go directly to heaven because he Was a Protestant, but he went into purgatory probably. So that's where he's talking to you from. He's got that line from the. From the created fires of the purgatory. Just calling you on the nightly, honey. But maybe she watched Black Phone. I'm starting to think. What movies did we recently see? What movies recently came out where people is calling from purgatory? Somebody had done dialed me. Somebody butt dialed me from purgatory. No. Stop playing. Quit playing, man. Candace, why you playing, man? Candace, you play too much. Y' all see Black Phone. I'm starting to think that was a code about Candace. You know what I'm saying? Black Phone, Black person getting phoned from the beyond. Okay, track with me. Y' all tracking with me right now. I don't want all these dumbos reviews. I want the trailer dog. And by the way, I thought for sure this kid was freaking Ethan Hawke's son. He looked just like him. That's purgatory right there. Charlie. Charley Kirk had done crawled out, by the way. Purgatory is ice cold. Y' all thought it was hot. It's ice cold, dude. Go watch Black Phone. Charlie Kirk done crawled out, he got on that phone right there and he. Because he remembered he had. He had had Candace number still in his flip phone, right? He got on that. He got on that flip phone right there and he phoned home and he said, girl, listen to me now. You better get some indulgences stacked up because you don't want to be in this cold ass purgatory that I'm in. Purgatory ain't hot. It turns out. It's turned out it's cold. And I'm over here trying. I'm trying to turn the heat up, get that heat turned up. That's Charlie right there in purgatories. And he had done called on the black phone. And the black phone is Candace's flip phone from beyond the grave.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
Anyway, today I feel that it is time to tell you the entirety of the repeat dream that I was having in those early weeks. Charlie said to me, I didn't realize.
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Main Commentator
She stacked up so much on this dream. I. This, this part's new to me, so this is funny to me.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
I don't have much time. He followed that up, explaining to me that I needed to see what happened on his left.
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Main Commentator
And he told me explicit, but now I understand what. This is why people in mass are attracted to Roman Catholicism. It's why her audience is a bunch of women that believe irrational nonsense that can't come to logical conclusions.
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Main Commentator
Your business it's because it's this is effeminate. The whole thing is effeminate. It's why the only remaining Roman Catholic guys that are out there, except for Tim Gordon, are also a bunch of weird effeminate Skittles people. And even if they're not skittles, the the Roman Catholic apologists that are left are effeminate because they rely on and act in an emotional effeminate way when it comes to the topics. They cannot read the books, they cannot do the material, they cannot do the logic. They can only react emotionally even if they're high iq. You can be high IQ and be a damn beta spurg. And that is the entirety of the Roman Catholic apologetic world. The absolute just recesses of beta male spergary is who's left defending Roman Catholicism. And it's nonsense. It's people that listen to this kind of stuff. So I'm overlooking a lot of when I go into a lot of these analyses of what the heck's going on, I'm actually overlooking a lot of the obvious. This is like, basically still feminist. It's feminized beta male, and that's why they listen to this nonsense. No rational man with the power of logos operating in his, you know, thought process is gonna listen to a bunch of this. And likewise, you wouldn't fall for histrionic women Roman Catholic charismatic saints and their ridiculous visions. Think about this. Let's compare this. And I think can't. I mean, if she's not a total just, you know, bad actor who absolutely just hates her audience and thinks that they're so stupid, then it's this right? Outside of the whole, you know, disinformation thesis. Compare what she's saying to the video that we did here about the histrionic Roman Catholic women saints, which you absolutely have to accept. You can't believe this. You can't reject this and be a Roman Catholic. But we also. There's a lot of factors going on here, right? Like, we have a generation of young dudes raised by single moms that makes them beta male and effeminate. And so they don't have a strong masculine archetype that they can model themselves after. And so they're modeled after their moms, and they act effeminate and they cannot reason through things. They're lazy. They rely on AI now, and the AI lies all the time. So that's where we are. That's why things are getting so bad. I mean, wouldn't you want. It seems logical to me that if we're going to look for conservative thought leaders, we would make sure that they were heterosexual, but apparently. No, that doesn't even matter. No, it doesn't matter. Would we look to conservative thought leaders who are perhaps just not women? No, that doesn't matter either. No. Women are now running everything, including the right wing. Why, it's. It's really the fault of all of you guys, really. I'm not talking about my audience. I'm talking about the people in general. It's the fault of all you dummies that listen to these people. And when I'm constantly right about this stuff, do you admit that you're wrong and change your position to match up to reality? No. Everyone acts like children and triples down and acts more.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
They betrayed me. Multiple people. And I said, I know, but who? It wasn't until the third week after his death that finally one face came through in this dream. It came through as clear as day from around the corner of the restaurant, and it was Andrew Kollbatz.
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Conspiracy Theory Commentator
So turn.
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Main Commentator
So she's actually arguing that her dreams are telling her who's really at fault here and who's really the problem amongst these. This is so stupid. I cannot believe how many people are falling for this. And what did I tell you some several weeks back I tried to warn you that you can only be retarded for so long before reality crashes in on you. When you defy reality, think of all the people, for example, that think that men can become women. Well, when you defy reality, eventually that catches up to you and reality hits you pretty hard because delusions. You can't make reality from your delusions. You can't cause reality to be the case from your delusions. What do you mean? She needs a priest. She has a priest. She has an insane Roman Catholic priest feeding into her delusion. In the same way, you can double down and triple down on your delusions and your nonsense and it doesn't like, it doesn't become real because you triple down. You don't make reality. You have to learn in this world that reality and truth are objective and you either submit to it or you get crushed by it. It, you will be crushed by delusion. It will come home to, to crush you. Or you change your way of acting and thinking to conform to reality. It's that simple. Childish people, narcissistic, self worshiping people do not care about what's true and they will not submit to what's true. True, they conform reality to themselves. Remember what we just saw with the psychological study that we did with Jim Bob of the character Amy in Gone Girl? If you've not watched it, you should watch it because it's a great portrayal of a psycho female narcissist that it's all. Just go watch our podcast that we did on Gone Girl and you'll understand this mindset right here. All right, let's finish this up and let's get to the, the debate. But, oh, I remember what I was going to say. Like when you constantly put out bull crap, I told you guys weeks ago, I said if you don't have actual proof of the things that you're saying or really good, you know, indications and you don't say allegedly, you're putting yourself in a position to be sued. Right? And that's exactly where it's gotten to now. So some of these grifters that are out here constantly putting out nonsense and I am not defending TPUs, I don't have a problem criticizing TPUSA. But when you make accusations and say things like they are a, you know, corrupt, scamming organization and then you don't have proof, you're liable to possibly being sued. And I said this was coming. I said, you can't just say this stuff. You people are so dumb. They think that free speech means that you can accuse anyone of anything. That's not free speech. Right. Free speech means that you have the freedom to say what your opinions are, but you cannot accuse people of stuff without any kind of evidence or any proof. Proof. Otherwise you're putting yourself in a position where you're liable to be sued or to sue other people. It's exactly what I said would happen. And now that is happening. This guy who obviously puts up just total forget what his name is something wolves, Wolverines of Wall street or something like that, they're beginning to send out the the lawsuit threats, which is exactly what I said would happen.
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Conspiracy Theory Commentator
Happen.
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Main Commentator
Again, I'm not pro tpusa. I think that they are a heterodox organization that pushes heterodox ideas and they push heterodox Calvary Chapel fake pastors. But that's different from saying that I have evidence of this and that of, you know, them committing fraud or whatever.
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Main Commentator
I forgot she said this one too. Remember that clip from like a year ago where she said that she thinks Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk are not humans, they're synoids. So we're going full G.I. joe level, right? And I remember that. I love this. The synthoid thing cracks me up because this was when I was a kid. I think The. The. The G.I. joe Synoid episode, it kind of. It creeped me out when I was a little kid. So I maybe. Did Candace fall asleep with YouTube playing on autoplay and she just happened to. She started watching the Symbiote episode Yo Joe. And if you don't. If you don't know. In this episode, Cobra kidnaps, like the Pentagon staff, the generals, and creates mind controlled human synthoid versions of them.
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Them.
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Main Commentator
And then he's going to control the government through. So Candace is over here exposing Cobra, right? She thinks tapusa is Cobra because Cobra's created these synthoids, right? That's where we're at right here. We're at GI Joe level and all of y' all dummies believe this stuff.
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I think this is a joke. There are several clips of Candace Owen saying things like she thinks Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg are machines, that we're currently fighting the AI, that they were hybrids. And quote if she. I. I shouldn't quote it because I'm gonna say it from her in the second person. If she were to cut them, they would not bleed. Or is that third person? And yeah, they're nuts. She has a clip where she says, why did Charlie text me that he was a time traveler? Is that something people say? And his agents want to stop an outcome. It really was hammered on pretty thick. But she loves doing the same mental trick where she doesn't say it explicitly, but she says it right. Charlie says, I'm a time traveler. That's so weird. Why would he say that? These agents wanted to prevent an outcome, so they stopped him. We get it. She's trying to get you to think that Charlie.
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Main Commentator
Hail Cobra. We must watch, for Candace came from.
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Main Commentator
I told you that you can be in legal trouble by doing this. And the Candace Cole is so stupid and so arrogant and just insane and grifty that they're actually experiencing what exactly I said would happen. I said, you watch, they're going to start sending out lawsuit letters to people who make up nonsense.
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Main Commentator
That's accurate and that's exactly what I said. So that was my assessment as well. So then we'll get over here to this guy, I forget his name, but the. This YouTuber guy. Wolverine. Wall Street Wolverine or something.
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Main Commentator
She's offering her consulting. She's like Ms. Cleo. Now she's going to be a psychic consultant because of her dreams and visions, right? She's offering her psychic consulting services. I mean, Charlie's talking to her from beyond the grave. So why wouldn't you want her psychic consulting services, right? I mean, we're at Ms. Cleo level, y'. All. It's straight up. Ms. Cleo. All right, here. Candace is right here. This Candace right here. Don't you really want to know? Okay, I was wondering who the father of my baby was. All right, let's take a look at the father, your baby. Twirling court, that's who. That's twirling court. The Ms. Cleo DNA test solely searching for the father of your baby be. Oh, it's the one that's very unpleasant. Okay. And he's also the one that. How did she know that? She got a call from the black phone. She got a call from Trly Kirk and Ethan Hawk on the black phone.
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Hobbit Song Performer
Sure.
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Main Commentator
I don't know how the baby looks just like him. Yes, he does.
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Hobbit Song Performer
Yeah.
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Main Commentator
So you were in denial. He has a funny little girl. How did she know that. That if she wasn't. If she couldn't. If she couldn't tell. To tell the future. How she know that? See, originally Ms. Cleo had had the Sumerian technology, okay. And then what had happened was the CIA had come to her, the Men in black, okay. And they said, give us that. Are we going to ruin you? And then what happened? Everybody started coming after. If you remember back in the 1990s, they have to come after Ms. Cleo. She got destroyed in the media and that was. The CIA had organized that. And then they took that Sumerian tech from her. Why tell me this. Tell me that's not the only conclusion that you could come to from this right here. You've never had a reading from a real psychic. Try us right now for free. Your father had a stroke at a young age, did he not? Right. Did you get. That's Candace right there, y'.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
All.
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Main Commentator
How the hell did she had not know that strep throat a great deal in your late teen years?
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Main Commentator
Okay. His eyes are almost spooky. They're so pretty. That would be my ex boyfriend. The five of swords is next to. I like how she says in both cases she said it's that one that got that weird chin. It's that one with them eyes are spooky. They so pretty. That's who. That's who the dad is the one. Look at his eyes. Tell me you don't feel that that's the dad when you look in the eyes. By the way. By the way. Hey everyone, this dude is still. We're two years later. He's still butt hurt over the this. Do you remember his prophecy? Remember in our debate this is a little side note because this video popped up. Remember Derek Myth vision? He said I will be at half a million and then a million subscribers in the. In the coming months. He said that two years ago. Oh, turns out he's still at 300. He didn't even p. It barely passed 300 when he prophesies. You want me to prophesy? I'm going to Be a half a million subscribers in no time. And then I'll be at a million. This is what happens when you don't submit to truth, when you think you're smarter than you are. And two years later, he's still butt hurt. Derek Myth Vision. Still making videos about two years ago. Now what happens is the clips channels will revive these, and it makes these people mad when it starts going around again, which is. I think it's pretty funny, ultimately. Shout out to the clips channels. By the way, y' all keep clipping, Keep clipping. And you don't have to create a whole clips channel. If you want to clip my stuff and put it on your normal Twitter profile, go for it, dude. Oh, I misspelled that. How you spell that stuff. So we're at 80,000 views on the original one two years ago. And he's still upset about asking Jesus, what truth is, are we saying?
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Main Commentator
Is based on observations. And if all world views are. The problem is that he performs so poorly in this and looks so ridiculous. And. And the comments are like, there's 1400 comments and 99 of them are against Derek that he's still butt hurt over this two years later. Well, maybe, Derek, you're just wrong. Did you consider the possibility that maybe your position is actually just wrong? All right, let's finish this up because we got to get to this debate point.
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Conspiracy Theory Commentator
Thought they got away with this, but it turns out Charlie's in purgatory and he's given Candace the answers to everything in her dream dreams. So they.
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Main Commentator
I couldn't believe that she actually. I did not know that she actually said this. This is. This is. This is making my day right here.
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Conspiracy Theory Commentator
Must be freaking out over this. Like, Candace even texted Andrew Colvette to tell him that she's speaking to Charlie in her dreams and that he told her he's betrayed. And Andrew didn't respond, which obviously means he's guilty.
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Main Commentator
Yeah, the only reason he wouldn't respond to the schizo level text is because he's guilty. And the only reason that we would criticize this is because of BB box. That's the only logical conclusion is seven thousand dollar BB bucks. That's why. Right? Yeah.
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Conspiracy Theory Commentator
Because everyone knows Candace's dreams are the best way to figure out what happened to Charlie. So I think the jig is up for Andrew. He better pray that Charlie doesn't visit Candace again, because if he does, it's over.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
I had to text him and tell him what I saw and this is the text just sharing with you. So you guys know if this all really happened. I said I rarely have vivid dreams, but I had one clear as day this weekend. Charlie came to me and he sat down. He told me that he did not have much time, that I needed to know that he was, in fact, betrayed and that they are hiding what happened again.
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Main Commentator
You wonder why things never change in the media sphere, conservatism, the right wing. It's because it's all this, dude. It just turns into just nonsense. And people love this stuff. They eat it up. And we're basically ruled by everybody's now. Everywhere, everything, and everybody's. That's where we're at. And people don't read books. They don't care. They would rather hear this. Which, you know, coast to coast kind of used to be understood as entertainment. You. You understood it was, like, not serious, Right?
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Hobbit Song Performer
Right.
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Main Commentator
There's no guy calling in, being triangulated by the aliens, talking to George Nori. It's entertainment. But now that this conspiracy bull crap has gone mainstream, it's. It's just pure. It's not even Jerry Springer. It's. It's like. It's Ms. Cleo, dude. I don't even know how to describe it. It's surreal. It's surreal.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
To my left, I believe his soul is in purgatory. And I believe that you know much more than you've said publicly or privately. And Andrew Colbert never answered last time Andrew Colbert and I spoke.
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Conspiracy Theory Commentator
So very suspicious stuff going on there. I wonder why he wouldn't respond to such a normal message. You think you'd want to know what Charlie's doing in purgatory, but I guess not. He's not.
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Main Commentator
Does any of this at all wake up the Roman Catholics? No, of course not. They double down. They triple down. You know, I was. I was laying in bed thinking about this. Like, why is it so crazy? Why is everybody so stupid? What. What is going on? And I think Koof played a big part in this.
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Maybe this is why God put me on this earth to tell my story, to be authentic to myself about. So immediately we see that everybody's being presented with something that is patently. No, just absolutely on his face false. But also everybody is caught in this, this tug of war between, well, I don't want to be against the group and what everybody says. And if everyone is says and. And the authorities are saying that this is a woman, I guess I have to say that it is or else I'm no longer part of the in group. I'm an outcast. Right. And so you had the media in Mass in 2016, telling everyone a man is actually a woman now, and they can be whatever they want. This fried a lot of normie's brains and it caused them to admit the delusion. And here's the thing that I'm, I'm noticing. It's not just sunken cost fallacy. It's also when people admit to delusions and they admit to and believe lies, there's also something demonic happening where they have to prop it up, not just because they don't want to be wrong, but because they are committed to it. They believe it, they want it. They want the lie. They want this type of a world where they are their own gods, where they can determine reality, they can determine truth. And to admit even that this is wrong would implicitly, logically, imply deep down they know this. It would imply that, wait, that means I'm not actually God. That means I have to actually submit to things that are true outside of myself. And that's contrary to fallen man. So the, the sad part about this is that fallen man can be engineered to go against his own nature to the point of self destruction. That's the sad part. Man would rather in these extreme states, destroy himself than admit what is true and conform to the true into the. Into reality. Now that's not everybody. I'm speaking in generalities here, but. Right, but the normie, NPC mass mind. Mind submitted to this. And then of course, we got the kuf. All right, no need to rehearse all of that. We all live through the biggest psyop of the last 50 years. We lived through it recently. We all remember it. And we saw a break in people. The normie mine just completely was fried. They snapped, they went insane. And it's not just the. The normies out there. Half of the church were unbelieving, insane normies and they went crazy. And I kind of feel like a lot of these people haven't recovered. They're. They're gone. And I don't know exactly the causes of all of that. We could speculate, but I'm not going to speculate because I don't know, but some sort of spiritual delusion. And I don't mean, oh, it's end times, it's in toms. I don't know if it's in times. I'm saying something happened with people in the last few years that they're. They're gone and people are, are different now. They're. They don't. I was watching some videos of people saying that far fewer people celebrate holidays they. Far fewer people celebrate birthdays. Just kind of normal things. Right. So that's where we are. And the sad part then is, in the wake of that, this allows cult leaders to step in and prey on people. They know that masses of people will believe anything, especially in these broken catatonic states. Right. This reminds me of the way that Teal Swan acts. Okay, let's. Let's take a look at a new age, insane cult leader grifter who, when you go to her live talks. This is very perceptive. If you watch the documentary on, I think, Hulu, they did a documentary on her, and they actually did a pretty good job going into her audience. Okay, let's look at this audience. How many dudes do you see? 1, 2, 3, maybe 4 over there? This is a gigantic woman audience, first of all. And she's got some weird beta males up there. Okay. By the way, this is old, too. This is like. Like four or five years ago. And she's got some sensitive new age brother up there. But look at this audience. It's almost all women. So she's connected with these women. There's. I want to find a. There's better examples in the bigger, Bigger venues that she does where it's just. It's all women, dude. It's, like, insane. Like, it's like. It's all, like, broken, chunky women. If we can find a. It's hard to find audience views of this stuff, but when you survey the audience, you can imagine it's all the same stuff. Let's see if we can see here. Okay, no audience views in that one. All right, here's some audience views. Let's see this audience view. One dude, two dudes, three dudes. All women. All women heads. Okay, Now let me show you what I'm getting at here with this. She does trauma baptisms. She does her own sort of weird version of a baptism. Let's see if we can find any videos of her doing it. It's in the documentary on her from Hulu. If you watch that, there might not be any clips on here doing it where she's doing it. Oh, here it is. This is it.
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Main Commentator
This says Teal swan. I don't know if that's her getting a trauma baptism or who this is. What is this nonsense? So basically what she does is she finds all of these stupid broken women, and I'm saying they're actually dumb people. And then she grifts for thousands of dollars to come to her retreats and she does a trauma baptism to heal you from your baby trauma and renounce your father and the patriarchy or whatever nonsense she tells you to renounce. And she literally baptizes you, right? And that's supposed to heal you. It's like a new birth out of the, the water of birth. Right. So she basically just rips off Christian baptism, but makes it the Teal Swan trauma healing baptism. And when you watch the documentary or you watch the, the live events, it's almost all broken, chunky women, the whole, like, the whole thing, right? So she totally figured out her niche, her market, right? And this is no different than what is happening with these other people like Candace. They're doing the same types of strategies and techniques. So the documentary, by the way, is called the Deep End. And I recommend watching the documentary not because it's that great, just because it actually shows you a lot of insights into gurus, how they manipulate people, their techniques. It's obviously demonic and deception. It's so stupid. Like you, you, you watch this and you're like, how are these people believing in this? The funniest part of the documentary is that there's one thug dude there who's like trying to sleep with her. It's like a wigger. I'm seriously, there's a wigger who goes to her retreat and he's like, yo, you saying. I just, you know, I thought, you know, maybe you and I could Just go. Go talk or something. And she's like, I feel like right now you really just need to leave my presence. I feel like I feel a very negative friend zone vibe. I'm going to friend zone you right now. That's the funniest part of the documentary is the wigger dude, and he's where he shows up to her event wearing, like, a Kobe jersey. He's like, hey, what's up? Hey, what's up, too, you know what I'm saying? I've been following you for a while, you know, I like what you say. You know what I'm saying? Look, listen, I'm just ready to, like, leave the patriarch, you know what I'm saying? So, like, maybe you and I could just maybe head on over to that pool together, you know what I'm saying? We could do a little bit of. Of, you know, a little bit of relaxing in the pool or whatever. And she's like, I feel like right now you're like, you've got a bad energy around you right now, and I feel like you just really need to leave that. That might be him right there. I'm not sure. Let's see. I don't think he's in the. The trailer. He's in the documentary, though. He's the funniest part of it. I got tattoo. Anyway, that might be. Yeah, that might be him. I'm not sure. That's a cholo dude. I thought I remember a dude being more of a wigger, but now this is. There's. There's a cholo. It's like, hey, deal, baby. I gotta. I got, like, a. Totally got, like, a tattoo you. Or whatever. Like, do you think it's cool? Would you want to, like, give me, like, an autograph on it or something? Or, like, maybe let me autograph your titties or whatever? Like, like, I don't know how this works or whatever. Like, maybe I could just autograph you or something. Like, maybe we could go back to the hot tub and you could, like, baptize me or whatever. Like, we could just do it. Like a tip or tat or something.
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Conspiracy Theory Commentator
See.
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Main Commentator
I wish the wigger was in it. Let's see. We hired a private investigator. My job is to try to figure out if this is a cult or not. We've had members leave. What do you think about this list? I don't want it to ding the copyright. So here's the baptism parts right where she's baptized within 50 miles of me. You better be ready for the deepest half of the Pool. It's like, what are you willing to do for this? Cause I was so washed, I'd be.
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Conspiracy Theory Commentator
Willing to kill someone and bury them in the backyard.
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Main Commentator
So there you go. That's how deep people get into this nonsense. How many of you feel like you're not doing okay? There we go. Let's see. Here's the Teal Swan audience. Whoa. What do you know? 95% broken. Weird, insane women going by their feelies. Exact same psychology of the audience of these people over here.
- [78:37]
Conspiracy Theory Commentator
True friend and doesn't really care about him. I think they're just using him for his supernatural abilities, which Candace is starting to figure out. That's why Charlie went to an X Men type of school and thought he was a time traveler and could turn off lights with his mind. She also started getting a bunch of messages after this from her fans about how they also have supernatural abilities. So investigating Charlie Kirk's death led to Candace discovering that her audience has superpowers. And the feds must be losing it over this. They didn't realize they're up against the Avengers.
- [79:06]
Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
The weird phenomena is real. Lights break above my head when I flipped a switch. Cabinets slam when I get mad enough stuff. And I can. I don't know, I guess connect with what I can only describe as stars that respond to my request. So many comments of people reflecting this that. Yes, when I.
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Main Commentator
So she got a bunch of drunk wine moms on SSRIS in her comments. Honey, that happens to me, too, honey. I can talk to the stars, honey. And they reply when I say, hey, star, what's up? Pleiades. It blinks back. I'm telling y'. All. I'm telling y'. All. It blinks back to me.
- [79:41]
Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
I run. I was in the gate program. Lights go out. I told you that was something that Charlie said. We're gonna talk about this stuff. We're gonna talk about the gate program. We're gonna talk about telepathy. We're gonna talk about kids running with street lights that are going off. And. Yeah, it's opening up a lot. And I think that it has.
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Main Commentator
This is the stupidest, most insane, and I cannot believe y' all people believe this stuff. You might as well. Why don't you go follow Teal Swan? Go follow Teal Swan. It's literally like, is it any more irrational than this bullshit?
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- [80:23]
Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
Why?
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- [80:47]
Main Commentator
Remember Teal Swan had all these stories about how she was raised by an SRA cult and she was sewn up inside dead bodies. Oh, and then it came out. Turns out T. Swan claimed that she was a Playboy model and that she won the Olympics for skiing. I'm not kidding. Now, in a normal, sane world, claiming that you were a ex Playboy model and that you won the Olympics, none of which is true, you would think that would discredit you. No longer. No longer do insane grifter con people stories discredit you. In fact, it makes your audience bigger. Something has happened, and I know I harp on discernment all the time to where people have not only lost discernment, they actually triple down. The more insanity that comes out about a person, people want to accept it. Yes, she. Perhaps she didn't. No, actually, maybe she did win the Olympics for skiing. Maybe she actually did pose for Playboy. And I think it was even something crazy like she posed for Playboy and they took away her. Her skiing Olympics medal because she was in. I mean, just total nonsense. Just total madeup bull crap.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
Dude.
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Main Commentator
J man says for $5. All the wine moms on Twitter were saying Candace's dreams are legitimate because dreams are in the Bible. That's the level of people that we're dealing with here. Just absolute, total inability to logically think through anything. I mean, we're at Teal Swan. The. The whole population is becoming Teal Swan's audience. Teal Swan has 2 million broken, low IQ women following her and like 5% weird, creepy beta males and. And like 0.01% wiggers that want to sleep with her. So what does this tell you? That you can be an obvious con woman. And she probably believes this too. Like you can be crazy and believe your and be a con woman. Right? But then over here, what do we get? We get treated like absolute trash. I have to beg to go on podcasts when I have the best, obviously the best material out here. Clear as day. Nobody else lectures through and covers the books that I cover. But if I covered absolute, maybe I could have 2 million followers or 5 million like Candace or 10 million or whatever. I mean, what does this Tell you about society and people in mass in general. It's just. It's just sad, man. It's insane. I don't know what to say. Oh, you're only saying that because you're jealous. You're just jealous. You're jealous. Well, if I was a bad willed, envious, wicked person, why wouldn't I just do the grift? You don't think I could act like Teal Swan and create some kind of weird, dumb, new age cult? Yeah, we're going to get to the CI debate. Relax. But there's. There's too many gems in this that I had to get to. And again, this is. I think this is a good point to parallel this to the Teal Swans stuff. How is the irrationality of Teal Swans worldview. Like, how is Candace's worldview any different? Explain to me the difference between Candace and her broken wine mom audience and Teal Swan's broken wine mom audience.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
I'm quite nervous.
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Conspiracy Theory Commentator
So I'm sure Candace will get a lot of answers to Charlie Kirk's assassination if she investigates the street light phenomenon. There's definitely something there. Like maybe Mossad was spying on Charlie using the streetlights and he used his time traveler energy powers to destroy them and that's why he's taken out. Or maybe the streetlights were part of the stolen ancient Sumerian technology that the CIA was using to harness Charlie's time traveler powers to see into the future.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
This project Looking Glass and the CIA. I wonder what they saw looking into the future. Stealing not Egyptian, but Sumerian technology, which is what they did. These are culture vultures. These are their thieves. Thieves? They're glorified thieves is what these people are. And they've always been this since the beginning of history. And they stole some Sumerian technology that allowed them to predict outcomes, and that technology stopped working in 2012. We're going to get into that tomorrow. I find it to be fascinating. I wonder if they saw Charlie Kirk.
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Conspiracy Theory Commentator
So I'm surprised Candace didn't tie this.
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Main Commentator
No, I don't. I don't think there's any need to continue after this point to cover this kind of stuff. And if you talk to me like that in the chat. Chat. I'm just gonna. I'm gonna ban you so you can go to heck and I won't even read. I'm gonna. So he says, when are you gonna talk about this and stop yapping about women. Goodbye, fly guy. $2. Truth hurts people. Yeah. That's why fear the sirens. 20J. I'm glad you did this. I was one of the people talking. As much as I want to justify my reasoning, I'm gonna give you $20 as an apology. Hey, it's okay, man. Appreciate you fear the sirens. It's actually. It takes a lot of humility and a lot of balls to admit you're wrong. And I think that's honorable. I appreciate that. You don't have to pay me money for. For being wrong. I'm just glad that people can have some discernment. So God bless you, man. Appreciate you coming to your senses. We're almost done with this. Then we're going to go to the.
- [86:43]
Conspiracy Theory Commentator
Debate into the Egyptian Plains. You know, I think that's why they're following him around. It's all starting to add up here. Of course, Charlie was a time traveler that had supernatural powers. And the maroon T shirt beekeeper cult that was following him around in Egyptian Plains tried to kill him because they couldn't control his superpowers anymore. And I think that's what the top secret meeting at Fort Huachuca was about. You know, the one that Candace's source, Mitch Snow, happened to stumble into. Also another development came from that story. Mitch Snow, it turns out he announced he's actually the son of the Zodiac Killer.
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Main Commentator
And this dumb audience doubles down on that. Maybe he is. Can you prove that he isn't?
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Conspiracy Theory Commentator
So there are a lot of discoveries being made during this investigation. It seems like we're figuring out the truth about everything except for who killed Charlie Kirk. But we now know he was a time traveler. That's pretty big news. And they're using ancient Sumerian technology that can predict the future. And he was using telekinesis to destroy lights. We also discovered the son of the Zodiac Killer. And now Candace believes she might be an alien sent from another planet that I think was sent here to expose Bridget McCrone for Evan.
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Main Commentator
So we're. We're only a week or two away. I'm telling you from full Yakub and full Gnosticism, that's where it's going next.
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Conspiracy Theory Commentator
Dick. I think that's what Candace's superpower is. She can spot trans people. So this has turned into like a parody of an X Men movie.
- [88:04]
Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
Charlie, Kurt Burke thought that he was a time traveler. He told me he was a time traveler repeatedly. I showed you guys that text message exchange. I said to him in response that I didn't feel the same way and that I thought I was from another planet, that I was an alien my entire life. Just do not get it here. This planet is ghetto. That's how I feel. I don't understand it. The rules don't make sense.
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Main Commentator
This little sass queen is too good for this damn planet. That's a ghetto planet. I'm about to take my ass to another. To a damn treat yourself planet. Planet. Hello? Where to treat yourself planet at? Can somebody get me on the black phone? I'm trying to call the black phone and take me to the damn treat yourself planet.
- [88:43]
Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
I think that's also why I like cats so much. I feel that they can relate to that.
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Main Commentator
Okay. After that, I'm starting to think she just with people. She just with y'. All. You heard that, right? Let's hear that again. This is a ghetto ass planet. And that's why I'm starting to relate to planet to cats. Because I think I'm not from this planet. Hold on. Let's hear that again. This was gold, dude. She a sass ass alien right now.
- [89:18]
Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
I don't understand it. The rules don't make sense. I think that's also why I like cats so much. I feel that they can relate to that, that they think humanity is ghetto. They don't want to be around us. They don't like us. They act. They know it's ghetto.
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Main Commentator
The take me to that bougie planet. This planet. Ghetto as hell. It's a ratchet ass planet. Right? Huh? I'm a. I deserve to be on a bougie planet. I deserve an escalade. I deserve my own cat Army. I deserve 25 cats. But they got to be them pretty Persian kinds of. And this planet is ghetto, by the way. Get me off of this damn planet. Right here.
- [89:59]
Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
It is ghetto here. Right?
- [90:00]
Conspiracy Theory Commentator
Candace also talked about inexplicable occurrences that happen, like deja vu, sleep paralysis, and her getting engaged to her husband in 18 days. Apparently, that's an unexplained phenomenon, according to Candace, because it's just so unbelievable that a grift.
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Main Commentator
We're gonna go to the debate. Shut up.
- [90:16]
Conspiracy Theory Commentator
Would want to marry a rich British lord only a couple weeks after meeting them.
- [90:19]
Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
And a lot of weird things used to happen to Charlie. He would go on runs. I think I told you gu. This after sundown. And when he was running, street lights would go out like it. It was like he was a burst of energy, like he was a lightning bolt or something. So there are just.
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Main Commentator
This is too funny. How are you? How are y' all not having a blast with this Earth? Earth. A trap house. This is too much fun. How are Y' all getting mad at this? Shut up. We're gonna go to the debate.
- [90:52]
Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
General. All of these inexplicable experiences that we have in life and they try to make it weird for us to discuss them. Deja vu is probably chief among them. We all have experienced deja vu. We are certain something happened. That we already did that. Well, guess what? There's no official expert explanation for that. Sleep paralysis. For those of us who suffer that I did had some terrifying experiences before I. I knew what it was. They don't really give us a full explanation for that. Similar.
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Main Commentator
I know. I told you. It's even crazier now. The only reason we're going to the rest of this clip is the beekeeper part. I didn't even know about the beekeeper part. This was. This gets even another level of it. It's like what in the hell is happening?
- [91:32]
Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
Also the earth.
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Main Commentator
Ash. Hey.
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Main Commentator
Earth too. Damn Ashes. Somebody get some low. Get some Jergens. Earth, Ashy.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
Another example.
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Main Commentator
Get some Jergens. Jamie. Earth is too ashy. Earth, you play too much. Damn. Earth, you play too much.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
Of things that are inexplicable and maybe somehow related. Deja vu. The story of how I met my husband. I've told it many times. How I got engaged. Eighteen days later, no one believes me. They don't want to accept it It. But I already knew George. That's how I describe it. I saw his face. I know that doesn't make sense.
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Main Commentator
Y' all got me crying again.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
Earth.
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Main Commentator
Earth. As you. Earth. You play too much. Okay, that. That one sent me over the line, y'. All. Who said earth too ashy. Oh my gosh. Who said that? That was the funniest joke of the date. Earth too. All right, whoever's. You win a free book. Man. Whoever said that one wins a free book. We gotta go back and see who said. Oh, gotta be. Catch my breath. Y' all let me know who said that because I want to Send them a free book. That was too. That was too funny, man. Irv, you play too much. I gotta catch my breath. I can't stop laughing. Okay. I can't breathe. Oh, I lost my breath. I lost my breath. I can't catch. I can't breathe. I can't catch my breath, bro. Okay, okay. Oh, my gosh. Who said that? That was too funny, dude. That was the joke of the day, dude. Earth is Earth Sanction eight. Y' all gotta stop. I'm gonna pass out. Y' all gotta stop. We have the funniest chat on the. On the whole Internet. I'm crying. Y' all gotta stop. Oh, my gosh. I can't breathe, y'.
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Hobbit Song Performer
All.
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Main Commentator
I can't breathe.
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Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
Earth.
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Main Commentator
Cocoa butter Eschetto. Planet Earth, Section eight. Oh, my gosh. It was really funny, dude. Who said Earth? Ashy? That was the funniest joke I've heard in a week. Earth on ebt. Anyway, whoever said it, if you want a free book, put it in the chat and y' all let me know. That's too, too funny. All right, I want to hear about the beekeepers part because this is the best part right here.
- [95:51]
Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
What had happened that way I looked at my husband's face and I already knew him. It was like a sigh of relief.
- [95:56]
Conspiracy Theory Commentator
So hopefully Candace, man, your audience.
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Main Commentator
Y' all play too much, man. Y' all play too much.
- [96:00]
Conspiracy Theory Commentator
Keeps pushing all her theories. She's definitely onto something. This investigation has given us a lot of answers, and I really just want to see how far she could take this. This, you know, it's been four months of investigating Charlie Kirk's death non stop, and somehow she.
- [96:13]
Main Commentator
Earth don't want no smoke with Candace, man. Y' all hear that? Y' all hear about that beef between Candace and Earth? Candace talking mad about Earth. Earth don't want that smoke, though. That's what I heard. You already got my book. Well, Earth don't want no smoke. Y' all hear about Irv talking? Irf and Candace got beef right now.
- [96:40]
Conspiracy Theory Commentator
They beefing up with new theories every day, and people think they're getting crazier, but maybe that's just because they know she's telling the truth and they're worried. You know, that's definitely what's going on here. So hopefully she keeps pursuing the truth. Like Alex Jones. He's been going nuts over this. I think it's making him physically sick. He said he's trying not to pay attention anymore because it's just driving him insane.
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Main Commentator
Kind of swore it off about A week and a half ago. Because, I mean, I had a lot of serious stuff to cover in research. And I'm spending hours a day researching her lives and feeling crazy while I'm doing it. Like. Like getting mad and depressed for the first time ever and, like, starting to really hate her face. And like, oh, God, I don't notice how evil she is and just how she looks like a demon, like a big gremlin. And then I started noticing all the other lies she was telling, and I was like, oh, my God. I asked friends and family I actually prayed about. I said, should I. Like, should I disengage? And most people are like, yeah, just the people will figure it out. So I'm like. And then today I'm like. He's like, yeah, the time traveling and the. And the looking glass. And I'm like, you're joking, right? And then I go, look it up. It's all true. I'm the one that. I sent that to Alex at 3 in the morning. He didn't believe what I. What I sent him. He's. Is this real? What he thought that I sent him? Satire. He was like, you're sending me your satire? What is this? No, Alex, this is real. It's like, well, so after today, unless there's just something I've got to do. Because Nietzsche said, don't look at the abyss too long, you turn into the abyss. Or don't fight monsters, you only turn into them. I'm swearing her off.
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Conspiracy Theory Commentator
You look at her show and hear what she's saying, and the amount of people that believe everything she says, and it's like, holy. She's definitely onto the truth. No, I'm kidding. Obviously, I think she's a total nut job, but I do want to see how far she's willing to go and how many people still buy into this lunacy. So I encourage her to keep pushing.
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Main Commentator
Okay, what was the beekeeper thing? I know he meant this guy mentions it.
- [98:25]
Conspiracy Theory Commentator
I think she's almost there, and she almost has the answers. But let me know you guys think about it all down in the comments and make sure you check out my Patreon. I just posted a big video on there about how Joe Rogan's friend Kurt Metzger accidentally called out Joe on his own podcast for being a Luciferian and also.
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Main Commentator
Can. Oh, here's Gerald talking about it. I just want to see what it is. I just want to see what it is. We're going to go to the debate. Shout out to Gerald, by the way, for having me on. We had a great conversation with Gerald about apologetics. Oh, man, I'm still laughing.
- [98:59]
Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
A Polish communist underground symbol that nobody would recognize outside of people who know what it meant. Strangely. I'm not kidding. And I'm going to show you these messages. I came across what looked to me like a bunch of people talking about bees.
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Conspiracy Theory Commentator
Okay.
- [99:14]
Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
All these people are really actually quote unquote, bee farmers or saying there's a movie about it lingo that I'm not understanding.
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Main Commentator
What the hell is this? I mean, is it basically just every episode is a new X File and like, I've just missed. This is from 2025. What's. I didn't even know about the beekeeper thing. What the hell is this?
- [99:38]
Candace Owens or Candace's Narrator
There is some weird underground. It's like, I sense like, imminent danger is coming. And for some reason I feel like there is an underground that has emerged at schools and it's like, related to bees.
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Main Commentator
Let's talk about bees. An underground as schools that relates to bees. Oh, my gosh. All right, we'll watch this later because that's. That's just enough of this. This is just like, what the is going on? Dude, this is so crazy. It's all Ms. Cleo. Dude. All right, let's get to the debate. Let's kick it off with the heated part of the debate and then we'll get to the. The larger, longer debate to see if it's worth continuing. So we're going to focus on the main part of what I saw, the pop. The clip that popped up. By the way, if you like the stream, if you would hit like and share, you can also support the stream through super chats. Let's read a couple super chats before we go to the meat of today's discussion. Man, y' all play too much. Man, your audience play too much. Man, y' all play too much. Damn, y' all play too much. All right, so let's see. We got. Little John says, For $10, can you say yeah, what? Okay, Anonymous says for a dollar. Are there any new movies coming out that you think are worth watching? Housemate is not worth watching. It was pure feminism. Greenland will be fun if it, you know, if you like those kind of end of the world things. Avatar. No, I hate Avatar. Bone Temple. It'll be worth analyzing because of the esoteric cult stuff. But actually there is a bunch of movies coming out that I think look good and I meant actually to do a trailer reaction stream, but I forgot to do it. So if we move through the debate quick enough, we'll watch some of these and I'll tell you which ones I think look like they're going to be pretty good. Good, because I actually saw. I actually. Believe it or not, I actually saw probably 10 upcoming movies in 2026 that I think look like they might actually be pretty good. All right, so let's get to the super chats and get to this, though. Say little John. No, we did that. Taint nothing. $5. You need to do some kind of Frank Sinatra cover of something. I don't know if I have a good enough lounge singer voice. Maybe blue check, $5. What's up, man? Jay, I'm new. I recently advised someone on orthodox churches. You recently advised? You said check out Russian. Ukrainian. I didn't say anything about Ukrainian. Serbian, Romanian, Antiochian. Should I learn old church slavonic? I mean, unless you're gifted with languages. I mean. But no, you don't have to learn that to go to the. To the services. Most of the time, there's at least a significant portion of the service that's in english. Unless it's all, you know, immigrants or something christian. Jay, I'm warning you, you are being watched right now. Oh, hush tones. $2. John Kiriakou is Greek Orthodox. Scottish says for five bucks, victim mentality has to be removed from society. Ready? Yeah. Well, as we saw in the virtuous victimhood paper that we cite all the time, the psychology paper, you can never remove victimhood from an egalitarian society because it becomes a currency by which cunning people can find traction.