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I Lived as a Transgender Woman. Then I Met Jesus: Joshua McParland | The Jesus People Podcast Ep 77
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A
So you go through this Kim Kardashian glow up. You eventually got fake boobs, right?
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B
Yeah. Like, so I was about to get into that. You know, my dad had passed away, and if my dad was there at that point, you know, I wouldn't have even been able to go to Turkey and get these things, because he would have been how many inches your. Basically your private part would have been and would have been how many, like, inches a guy's other thing would fit in you, right? Because it's a penile inversion technique, which is perverted sex. It's disgusting, it's wrong.
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A
It's being paid for by governments. Like, that's what's. That's what's crazy about this. You have a holy, righteous anger because you were a victim to it.
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B
Oh, my goodness. This gets to the best part,
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A
guys, thanks for tuning in to the Jesus People podcast. We have the honor of having Joshua McParland on the pod today. Joshua, you're the man. Dude, it's been so fun journeying with you over the last few months and getting on the phone and praying and getting to hear your story. You are a soldier, bro.
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B
Thank you so much, brother. I'm so grateful to be here, guys. And, you know, this is my brother from. From Jesus.
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A
Yes, yes, yes.
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B
So, yeah, he's all across the way from the world. I'm in Belfast. He's in the usa. So it's just amazing how God can, you know, make connections and bring, you know, the brotherhood together and, you know, brothers and sisters in Christ, in the body of Christ. And I'm so grateful to be here, so I just want to make that clear as well. So thank you, Ryan, for having me on here, and thank you, Jesus, for having me on Ryan's podcast.
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A
Well, it's so shocking to me, you know, talking to you, like, bro, you're sending me scriptures throughout the day. We're getting on the phone, and this dude is just, like, quoting scripture after scripture after scripture, and. And, like, you just, like, you just so in love with Jesus and so in love with his Word, you'll be texting me. I literally had to ask Chat GPT. I've asked Chat GPT multiple times. Like, what time is it in Belfast right now? And it's like, three in the morning, and you're just, like, consuming the word of God. And I think that's what's so cool about you, man. And people wouldn't. They wouldn't believe, seeing you now that you were living as a woman for seven years.
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B
Yeah, for sure.
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A
I Want to put a picture up here? We're going to put a picture up because you guys wouldn't believe the.
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B
Obviously you can see me now, like, what God has completely done and transformed my life.
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A
Yeah, well, let's go into this. I'm so curious, Joshua, like, and I don't know how much we've really talked about this offline. I don't really know, like, what was. I want to know what was your childhood like? I'm just so curious. How does someone come to make the determination I'm going to transition at 15 years old? Like, what was your family like? And then what was going on in you internally and externally that led you to make that decision?
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B
Well, I feel like I didn't really know, like, who I really was. You know, I didn't have a personal relationship with Jesus, so I never really knew. I've always believed in God, but, like, I never knew His Word. So if you're not going to know the Word, you're not going to know what is the truth. You're just going to go and lead with your flesh and you're going to do what? Feelings, right? So, so keyword phase. Yes. Like, you can't go on feelings. And sometimes we want to do what our flesh. We want to make our flesh feel good. And that's what Jesus says not to do. So when. Back then, like when I was younger, like, you know, I would have hung around girls. So that was. I had girls influencing around me, like, you know, just playing with girls and, you know, I just didn't really play with my brother or nothing like that. I tried to do like, boy things with my dad and it just didn't feel, you know, right at the time, I just couldn't. I felt like I'm more like resonated with, you know, girl things and brass ponies and all these things. And I would have played with those in nursery and stuff. I was just more so gravitated towards, you know, girl things. And I was more closer with my mother and my sister as well. So, you know, my dad was there, but I spent a lot more time with my mother and my sister and then obviously, like the music industry as well. Like, I was always listening to music. I was, you know, dancing like, promiscuously from a young age, which is completely inappropriate, you know, for a child to be doing so those. Those kind of things. But, you know, the world will just cheer you on. You know, the world will cheer you on for these things. They will not tell you, no, you shouldn't do that. They will cheer you on your way to basically hell. They will cheer you on your way to hell, you know, so that's another thing the world doesn't know.
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A
But who, who eventually, because I'm sure you, you know, some, some authority figure had to tell you, hey, you might be a woman. Did, did that happen? Were you at therapy? Or was it. Who was the person that convinced you
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B
to be a woman from childhood? Like, people would have just mistaken me for a girl. I had long hair, you know, I was always quite feminine, high pitched voice, very fine featured. You know, that's where the confusion started to come in. And again, God is not the offer of confusion, but of clarity and peace. 1 Corinthians 4:13, 1 Corinthians 14:33. And I will put that out there, that God does not confuse you, the enemy does. I just want to put that clear out there.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So people would have said, are you a girl or a boy? Again, that created the confusion of me thinking that I would have, like, sang, you know, songs. But actually, like a fun fact. I actually did Joseph in the Technical Ordrinko in my primary school. Like, that was like, from, like my, like when I was in school as a child. I didn't. Joseph, I had long hair. Like, I was the part for that. So that was like, that was good. That was totally gone as well. Like, just God has always been there.
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A
So at what age and how were you convinced that you were actually a girl trapped in a boy's body?
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B
So I seen YouTube video influencers online. YouTube video influencers, YouTube influencers online from Hollywood. And then I seen that they were transgender and they were like, putting it this out and like, it's just basically saying they were transgender and we live in this glamorous lifestyle. And, you know, that was like an open doorway obviously for the enemy. But I didn't know because I was so young and vulnerable and just didn't really know. I was looking for, you know, guidance. But the only one that can truly guide us is God. But I didn't obviously know God on a personal level or, you know, I wasn't born again, so I didn't have a clue about who I was or, you know, what I was really here for. And you don't really know at that age. You are young, you're vulnerable, you're not understanding a lot of things. You're going through puberty. And another thing, I didn't want to go through puberty as well. Like, I didn't understand what was happening to my body because you Know, the hormones were new, and, you know, you're having all these hormones in your body, like, turning mad. I didn't want hers in my legs, and I was afraid of getting a deep voice and things like that. So, again, I just wanted to be a woman. That was really it. I just genuinely wanted to be a woman and. But I was never going to be a woman. But I thought in my head that I was just genuinely a woman as well. And then at the age of 15, you know, I begged my mom to, like, let me transition. She didn't really want me to let. She didn't want me to transition, but I begged her and sort of, you know, made her take me to there. And, you know, she loved me. So she thought she was only doing.
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A
Take you to the doctor?
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B
Yeah, like, she thought she was only doing, you know, what was the best for me, you know, so, you know, I don't, like, hold anything against anybody, so that's not what this is about. So.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're feeling. You're seeing these. These influential people in Hollywood.
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B
Yeah.
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That are transitioning. You're feeling these feelings of, like, maybe, like, I don't know why I'm more attracted to hanging out with girls, and I resonate more with girls and play. Play with more of, like, the. The girl boys and then all of us. And then you get to this point where you're like, I'm gonna ask my parents to go to the doctor, and they're reluctant. And then you go to the doctor. What was that conversation like, oh, like, with my mom, with the doctor. Like, so you walk in, like, what? I don't even know what kind of doctor you go to for that. Is it a psychiatrist or.
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B
So we just went to, like, the local, like, doctors, which was. I'm not actually going to share any names because I can't do that. I'm not going to get sued.
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A
You say so. Yeah, so we just went to the local doctor.
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B
Yeah, so we just went to the local doctors. They had sort of read it up on a computer. They sent it to, like, this service. Again, I'm not going to say what it is. And then I was referred to there, and again, they were just sort of counseling me. But it says, blessed as the man does not walk in the way of the council of the wicked. So they're counseling you to, you know, affirm you and to, you know, to encourage you to do this. And obviously, at the age of 15, like, that's just so wicked. Like, that's so wrong. Like, looking Back. Like if I had a child and my child told me that, I'd be like, you're not going there and I'll tell you what the truth is. And I'd be showing the word of God to them. Like, that's how much I care about children out there that are watching this video. Because I don't want you to do the same thing that I did. So, yeah, that's the most important thing too. Do not do this. Whatever you do, do not do this.
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A
Yeah, keep, keep going on that. That's so, that's so interesting if you, if you could tell a kid who's in that same spot right now who's like, man, I feel like I'm more feminine or I feel like I'm more masculine and I've never really fit in. I've never really felt right in my body and I've got this high voice and, you know, longer hair, like you were saying. What would you tell them in that situation that day that you're going to the doctor if, if they're in your shoes at this current moment? What is your message to a young person that's thinking about transitioning?
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B
One I would tell them, do not do it and do not listen to what these people are telling you. That's literally what I have to put out there. And Psalm 1:3 9:14. You are fearfully, wonderfully made. And you're knitted together in your mother's womb so carefully. All your little parts, all your little body parts, they're all knitted together in your mother's womb. And God created them so perfectly for nine months in your mother's womb. You are fearfully and wonderfully made. Do not change what God has created, created you to be, and that is his child and to know him and to have a relationship with Jesus through him, Through Jesus.
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A
Amen, bro. That's good.
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B
That's what I would tell.
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A
So that's what you would tell 15 year old Joshua as he's walking into this doctor's office.
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B
Oh my goodness, if I could. But at the time I was so prideful, I didn't want to listen to anybody. You know, people would have told me these things and you know, I just didn't care. It was just rebelling. I was rebelling against my parents, I was rebelling against God and. But when I came to the realization, you know, like when you get saved and when you, like when you, when you feel that conviction, when you realize that you've revealed against God, your heart completely snaps in two. But God glues it back together. So that's the beauty and the grace of God and the mercy of God that we do not deserve.
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A
Amen. Amen, bro. So what was told to you in this doctor's appointment?
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B
Yeah, so they just, like, sent off, like, a. An email to the service that I was talking about. And then I went to that service from 15 and then from 17. That's when I medically started to transition. This is when I started to put hormones, hormone blockers in my body, which decreases libido, you know, as will stop your natural, you know, body from producing hormones. There obviously are side effects to that because these things are not supposed to be going into male bodies. You know, it's basically poison that you're putting in your body. That's just the way I would say that it is. It is, yeah. And then from the age of 18, which was 2020, I got on the hormones, and that's when I started to, you know, put in the hormones. You know, I'd already ended up getting, like, fierce fillers and lip fillers and nose fillers and, you know, Botox, whole heap. And then it was called the Kim Kardashian package. I got. And I got that in my f. And I, like, at this point, like, you wouldn't have even been able to tell that I was literally a boy. Like, just would have thought that I was a girl. You know, I would have had the nails, would have had the. Her extensions. My hair was like. My hair was naturally down to here. And then the extensions would have added more, and I would have curled her. I would have gone out partying from the age of 15 as well. I was doing drugs. I was going to. In partying and alcohol, drinking alcohol, and just doing crazy things and just being, like, completely off my head on drugs, which is, like, completely on another planet, you know?
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A
Yeah.
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B
And that's how vulnerable. That's how vulnerable these kids are. Like, I know the kids are out here drinking from the age of whatever, like, especially in Belfast, where I'm from, like, that's so normalized. Like, people normalize that so much. It's just not normal. And, you know, God doesn't want that. Our body is a temple of God, and we should be honor our body for God. And to be doing that is reckless behavior. But the grace of God can, you know, help you to come back to him. So that's the most important thing. There's mercy, there's grace. Just come back to him. That's the most important thing that I'm sure.
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A
And yeah, Amen. Okay, so you go through this Kim Kardashian glow up. You eventually got fake boobs, right?
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B
Yeah, like, so I was about to get into that. You know, my dad had passed away. And as my dad was there at that point, you know, I wouldn't even been able to go to Turkey and get these things because he would have been just, God bless him, like, you know, he was trying to lead me completely to Jesus. And I was just, I remember, like, being out the backyard and he would have spoke to me and I was like, telling him, no, I'm doing the surgery. Like, I was just rebelling against him. Like, I don't know why I was just so a horrible person, but I just really wanted to do my own selfish desires, which is what the flesh does. Right. Like your flesh and the spirit are in conflict with one another so that you don't do what you want. But I was just so, you know, just, I really wanted to do this. I just didn't care about. It was just so reckless and so, like, crazy, like, why I would do these things. But again, I didn't know any better. That's why Jesus says, father, forgive them. But they know that what they do. Like, I really didn't know what I was doing.
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A
Yeah. Which is what's so evil. I mean, it's literally what the enemy does is he takes the most vulnerable and he confuses. If he can't kill them, if he can't kill them in the womb, he's going to confuse them out of the womb. And that's what we're seeing him do right now, is like the thing that's most precious to God because the enemy can't kill God. Seth Gruber says this. If the enemy can't kill God, he's going to kill what's most precious to God. The babies, the most vulnerable. And then if he can't kill them in the womb, he's going to confuse them out of the womb and create a death in them. I mean, it's called dead naming. Right. Like in the trans community, like your old name, you are literally creating a death and getting a new identity that's demonic. It's fully demonic in nature. And. And what you're doing is, is you have the bravery and the courage. What's so amazing about you, Joshua, is you had the breast implants, you had the lip fillers, you had the long hair and you met Jesus and it's gone.
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B
Yeah, I had the whole heap of what these people would want, but it's not what you really want. It's just a trick. It's a lie. It's a lie from the pit of hell. It's a lie from Satan. He wants to distort you. He wants to destroy you. The thief only comes to ste. Kill and destroy. But Jesus comes to give you a bu in life. John 10:10. The enemy wants to distort you because you're God's precious creation. He wants to harm you and to hurt you.
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A
Amen. Amen. And this is, I think, going to give a lot of courage to hopefully to parents, to administrators, to doctors, to people.
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B
Guys, I want to say this because I love you. I love you so much. Like, if you're out there and you're struggling and you're confused, it's not the way Jesus said he is the way the troop in the life. And I love you so much. And that's why I'm telling you. I'm not telling this stuff to condemn you. I'm telling this stuff to. To bring you closer to God. God doesn't condemn anyone. He did not send his son to condemn the word, but to see it, the Word through him. John 3:17.
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A
Amen. Amen, brother. That's it.
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B
So like from the age of 15, you know, I was like on like webcom videos and you know there was a. There's an op called Kick. Yeah, I don't know if you've heard of it. And I would. Was like, I was, I was with my friend at the time and this person was like dressed up as, like he was a guy, but like he had like. He was androgynous. He was dressed androgynously as well. And, and he was sending me unclean pictures. But I didn't know. I was just so, like, I didn't have a clue. But that was an open door.
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A
You're how old, how old are you here?
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B
15.
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A
And this is an adult sending you this?
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B
No, not an adult. This was like someone that was like around my age. I don't even know how I got in contact with this person. I don't even know how I got their kick. It was just the whole this. It's just all a big. Oh, it's just so disgusting. You know, watching gay porn as well from the age of 15 too. And I'm completely exposing my sin on here. But like, do you know what? It's going to help people. So just watching gay porn, normal, like just sexual immorality. It's not normal. Sorry. But like sexual immorality porn as well, like that?
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Yeah.
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B
So it's just to be clear, that's not normal. That's evil. It's wicked. You know, sex, marriage is perversion. So just want to make that clear. Yeah. So from the age of 15, I, you know, these people are. And like. And I just feel like that's where all the confusion came from as well. Like. Yeah. And then there was people like, influencing me that I had friends from America. Like, they were much older than me, like adults. I was like 17 and they were way older than me. They were, they were from America actually, and I would have FaceTime with them. And I wanted to go over to America. My daddy was like, you're not going over there. Yeah, like my daddy was telling me, you're not going over there. I'm not letting you go over there. And thank God that he didn't. Thank God that he didn't.
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A
Yeah. Amen.
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B
Because I was. I was wanting to pump my body with silicone, like to put silicone in my body, like into my hips, into my butt, to make like, you know.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like an hourglass, like sort of like picture.
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A
Geez.
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B
And again, it's all distortion. It's all a lie from the enemy. This person was like way older than me. I was only 17. So yeah, they would manipulate me a lot too. And that's what I thought was just really, I forgive them because Jesus calls us to forgive, but that is wrong.
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A
And when you say they. These are just people you're finding online that have an agenda.
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B
Yeah, these are just people that I'm fighting online that are just also deceived. But I asked them, like, did they know what they were doing? And they said, like, yeah, they knew that they were manipulating me. So I feel like that's just completely disgusting.
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A
And thank goodness for your dad. That's why I think it's so important to have present dads in the home. Because we have an enemy. And that enemy is working through systems, structures, people. He's working. He's working through the medical industry, he's working through the public school systems. He's working through all of it. I mean, you said it yourself, you had a 30,000 pound, or you were about to have a 30,000 pound surgery to emasculate yourself.
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B
Yeah, they told me. And it says, watch out for those mutilators of flesh, those evilders. So it literally is scriptural mutilators of flesh. There you, there you go. That. You can read that in the Bible. And that's what they were going to do, mutilate my body. You know, I went into this room and they showed me pictures of, you know, like, this is when I went over to Brighton, England. This is when I went over to England. They show me pictures of, you know, man's like pictures of like basically inverted, you know, penises. Because that's what it is. It's called penile inversion technique. It's basically where they. Yeah, they're like basically inverting your penis and then the. The much inches of. Sorry, guys. Completely in graphic here, like.
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A
Yeah, yeah. If you've got kids. If you got kids here, you might. You might want to. But Joshua, I don't want to censor you at all. You can go for it. We go for it on this podcast.
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B
So.
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A
But if you have children, you might want to be cautious of that for sure.
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B
So they tried to like, basically what it is, it's penal version technique. Sorry, we'll get back to that. It's penal version technique where basically they turn the penis inside. I take out your test. Test. What's those? Like, testicles. Testicles. Take out your testicles. And then like, they like. It's just. Oh. And like, I just. I actually can't believe that I thought I was going to be a woman after this. But like the much delusion that was being felt in my head was actually ridiculous. Like. Yeah, with the brainwashing that was happening. Like the, like the people say that we're brainwashed. No, they are trying to completely brainwash you in a wrong way. We're trying to wash your brain to make you clean in Christ.
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A
Right? And they're. And they're targeting children. They're clearly targeting children. And I think, I think what's so. What's so cool. I keep coming back to this, Joshua, is, is you just keep bringing it back to scripture. And, and this is. This is the tactic of Satan from the beginning is, is he wants to steal, kill and destroy. And who does he want to do it first with? He wants to do it with the children. He do it with the most vulnerable. And so there are agendas at play right now worldwide to mutilate children, to pump children full of hormones, to make them infertile, to make them sterile.
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B
Yes. And that's another thing, like from the age of 17, because I was so silly, I didn't understand, you know, what, like they asked me, do I want to freeze my sperm? And I said no. I said no because I wasn't thinking about the future. I wasn't thinking about, you know, having like, children and stuff. I was just so, like, so selfishly caught up in my own desire, like to the point where. But that. Now I look back, that was the enemy trying to destroy my seed. Yes. He was trying to destroy my reproductive system. That's why. That's what he wants to do. That's what I'm just hearing this. The enemy wants to destroy you and so you won't procreate, so he can distort you.
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A
Right. Well, I think that's, I mean, literally, you can look at the cult of Satan and you can look at the kingdom of God and you can really boil them down to two things. It's a death cult. Whether it's Islam, whether it's the trans community, whether it's the gay community, whatever it is, it is a death cult. The abortion community. All of, like, why do you think there's all these flags that are saying transfer Palestine or for Iran? Like there's this bond, this weird bond with, with the Muslims and with the trans community. Why they kill trans people in Muslim countries. Why is that? Well, on the other side of the coin, you have the, the biblical worldview, which is pro life in, in its entirety. You can look at pro life across the board and you can say it's not just for abortion, it's for adoption, it's for children, it's for the. The n. And you can say these two, the pro death cult and the pro life cult are at odds.
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B
So abortion is murder.
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A
Exactly. And so all of them are now coming together and they're saying, we are now one, we're one group. So you look at these, these parades where they're like pro Islam, pro trans,
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B
pro abortion, you can repent and you can receive forgiveness for doing that. If you have partook in that sin, you can be forgiven. If you confess your sins, God is faithful and just to cleanse you and forgive you from unrighteousness. He deliver you from, you know that sin so that you do not continue to do that because it is evil, it is wrong. Abortion is murder. So yeah, that's just the truth. Says that in the Bible.
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A
Exactly right. And you're a picture of that.
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B
Sin is evil. We're not saying that you're evil. We're saying sin is evil. Satan is evil and he wants to do everything he can to try and ruin you.
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A
I want to take a quick minute and tell you about a devotional book that I just wrote. It's called the Gratitude Reset. And the reason why I'm so passionate about this book is because all of the lessons I learned in the battle that I had with Anxiety are now put into this book. All of the scriptures that I could find on anxiety all came back to one solution and that was prayers of gratitude. So in this devotional book, you're going to get those scriptures, you're going to get a lesson, but then you're also going to journal out what you're grateful for. You're going to journal the burdens that you're going to give to Jesus because we're called to cast our cares on him because he cares for us. And then you're going to pray for others as well because anxiety is inward focused. Instead of looking at others and saying, how can I bless them? How can I get my mind onto serving people people? And then you're going to jot down notes that Jesus gives you. So I would love it if you could check this out. The link will be in the show notes or you can go to thejesuspeoplemovement.com thegratitude reset. No, but what, what I'm hearing you say is I was a part of this death cult and now I've found life and life abundantly. And you've literally switched teams. You've come to the kingdom of light. So, so that's what's so fascinating about you, brother. And, and you haven't like, you have gone, yeah, team Jesus, bro, holding up your Jesus sweatshirt. So what, what I want to get into now is, okay, so you were doing drugs, you were living a promiscuous lifestyle, you were thinking about putting silicone in your butt and you had breast implants.
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B
We'll go back to the surgery thing. So, yeah, I went over to Brighton. They actually examined, you know, my private parts and they told me like how many inches were going to be. So basically what this would, was going to be, this is perverted sex. So it's, basically that's what this is created for. It's perversion. We know that in Romans 1 to 20, the 28. So if you can read there, it says where they did not obtain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved man to shameful lusts. So that's what it is. They were inflamed with lust for one another and they were unnatural men with men and women with women with women. You can read that in Romans. So if you want to read that, you can, you can. That's the truth. So they told me how many, like, I'm not get into details about that. That's too graphic and too personal. But basically what it would have been was how many deaths, your. How many inches. Your. Basically your private part would have been. And would have been how many, like, inches a guy's other thing would fit in you, right? Because it's a penile inversion technique, which is perverted sex. It's disgusting. It's wrong. It's disgusting. I am disgusted with that.
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A
And it's being paid for. It's being paid for by governments. Like, that's what's. That's what's crazy about this, is that literally, like you said, the mutilators of the flesh.
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B
I have a holy righteous anger for this particular thing because it's just something like you're. You're distorting your own body. Like, oh, just so. And again, I'm not saying.
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A
And you have a holy righteous anger because you were a victim. You were a victim to it. So then I. I don't think I actually know this Joshua. Like, how did you then come to know Jesus after this?
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Oh, my goodness. This gets to the best part. So, yeah, so my dad had passed away. Obviously, we'll touch on that. Because that's what completely just broke my heart. I was looking for love in all these different kinds of men. You know, I would reach out to these men, I would ask them, like, do they love me? And they would say, like, they would. It would always be like, it would be close enough, but never. It could never. But that was God's protection. It was God's protection over me the whole time. Like, God would not let me be with these people because he was protecting me. Even though I was disobedient, I was doing different things and I fell into perversion. You know, I was doing disgusting things that I've repented of. And then I've got delivered from, like, again, like, Ryan was on the phone to me as well, and he delivered me from a lot of things as well. As well as my friend Tila as well. Shout out to Tila Scroggin. God bless you, sister. We love you so much.
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A
Yep. Yep. Kayla's another. She's a. A deliverance minister and an influencer.
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B
Yeah, like, praise God. I've shared my testimony on her channel as well. You can give it a watch. So. Yeah. Yeah. My dad had passed away and I was just so heartbroken. And I remember saying to my mom, like. Like, why does nobody love me? And she was like, I love you. But, like, it wasn't enough. Yeah, like her love wasn't enough. It just wasn't enough. Like, only God can fill that love that you're Truly searching for. And that's what I was searching for. God's love without even realizing it. You know, we search for God in so many different things, but Jesus, obviously, is the way, the truth, and the life. He is God in the flesh. You know, he's the only one that can truly fulfill our hearts and give us a new heart. You know, it says, he will remove a heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. Ezekiel 36 to 26. So he will give you a new heart. So just putting that out there, Jesus can renew you like that. You know, he done it for me. And if he done it for me, he can do it for you. So I remember I got. I was homeless. I was being housed by the government, which is like a governmental, like, thing. Like, I was basically, like, over here by myself. I remember, like, watching the Prince of Egypt as well. Great, great, great, great movie, actually. And it's about the book of Exodus, and it's about how Moses realizes that he actually isn't an. An Egyptian. I feel like when I watch that, too, it gave me, like, a revelation, but it was definitely the Holy Spirit, like, touching me, too. Like, when he PR off the wig, when he PR off all the stuff, he realizes that he's actually a Hebrew. And it kind of gave me, like, oh, my goodness. When I rip off my hair extensions whenever I'm not actually this person that I was. It was just a great revelation. Yeah, brother. It was actually amazing. I don't think I've actually ever shared that, like, before, but that's. I remember watching that and seeing that. But God was touching me in so many different ways where I was about to do that surgery. The woman told me on the phone as well that I was going to be a real woman. These people were telling me that I was going to be a real woman.
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Yeah.
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B
And I wasn't going to be a real woman.
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A
These are doctors or like, these people
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over in Brighton in England. Like, they. I remember, like, being on the phone, stand there. But no, you're going to be a real woman.
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A
And it's like a governmental organization or what is like.
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B
Yeah, yeah. It's like the government, like, funding for basically transgenderism. Like, transgender to cut your parts. Yeah, I know. I know, brother.
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A
It's okay. So you're seeing crosses. You're. You watch the Prince of Egypt. You see Moses take off his Egyptian garb, and you're like, whoa. This is like.
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B
Yeah, it was sort of. It was God, obviously touching me. I remember, like, seeing, like, a sign of, like, a Sign. And it was like, come to me. And it was a picture of Jesus. Obviously, now we don't know what Jesus looks like, but I knew it was Jesus from what I can say. Like, you know, we can see. I remember seeing that my mind had been like, no, but my heart said yes, and God looks at your heart. Most importantly, God is looking at your heart, not your mind, or he's looking at your heart, you know, and he knew my heart wanted him, so. But I didn't even realize, like, we're gonna get to the best part. So. Yeah. So basically, I remember saying to my, like, auntie as well, like, these are all different. Like, these are all different pivotal moments. These are very important and very important. Mom. They're not structured to the complete, you know, order of the way it was, but they are real events, guys. These are real events that. What actually happened. I remember getting on my knees and crying out to God as well, and he. And I asked him to take away the mental illness, because that's what that is. Transgender. Transgenderism is a mental illness. And. But again, it's all. It's all the enemy. It's all the enemy. So I remember getting on my knees, crying. I came off. I was weaning off the hormone tablets, which was God obviously getting me off those tablets. That was Jesus already, like, winning me off those. There's no way I could have came off those. And I came off in cold turkey, by the way. And I started watching videos about Genesis 1, 2, 7, how I was created in the image of God. And I seen people that, through the similar experience that have, you know, didn't go the full way. And I was seeing videos online of how people did go the full way and they regretted it. And I believe that was God really showing me. Before I did this, and even before I was doing this, I knew in my heart what I was doing was wrong. I want to make that clear.
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A
You can't see from.
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B
Yeah, Like, I felt like whenever I was sinning when I was doing these things, like, that's specifically. I didn't know about, like, fully, but, like, because I wasn't aware of, like, the word of God fully. But I knew, like, yeah, something deep down was, like, telling me, don't do this. Like, don't do this. And it was God. It was God. It was totally God. It was God warning me. It was God warning me. It was God warning me. He was one of me. If you do this to yourself, you're going to ruin yourself.
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Yeah.
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B
You know what I mean? God loves Us so much. He loves you too much to let you hurt yourself. Love. So, yeah, I remember seeing that. And then my aunt did. Came up again. She was a Catholic, but she shared Romans 10, 9 with me. She said to me, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and you believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, which is literally scripture. I actually said, jesus is Lord. And I felt like an instant click in my heart. Something changed in my heart. It was the Holy Spirit just entered in my heart. I knew it because my heart just went. And my heart ignited. I was seeing different testimonies. A girl called Christina Cheney, she was sharing her. She was in the music industry. I was about to go into the music industry as well. And how the Enemy had offered her, like an offer, you know, basically to sell her soul. And she declined it and, you know, came and she got born again through Christ. So that. That touched me too. Like, that was really making me say, oh, my goodness, this is real. Like, what she's saying is real. And I seen other testimonies of people sharing about homosexuality and how they were about to, you know, do these things. And they did. They didn't actually end up going fully through. Like, they didn't. They realized that they asked God to take away the, you know, the perversion and stuff, and they got saved and stuff, and God bless them. I had, like. I was just watching that and I felt like God really met me through those videos. Praise Jesus. Another. I was going to say, this is the most important, most important. This is the most realist, realist, realest thing that I've. That I know that I seen Jesus in my room. Not in the flesh because no one has seen God and lived. However, I seen Jesus Spirit in my room, at the corner of my room, and I know it was Jesus. I went asleep that night and I can actually know what I was watching again. I was watching Disney Channel. I was watching Sonny With a Chance that night on my MacBook. I was watching that. I fell asleep and I did pray that night. I prayed the Lord my soul to take. You've probably seen it in movies. I just prayed it, but I didn't think that anyone was listening. But God was completely listen. God's ears were attentive to my prayer. He was there. He heard that prayer when I thought nobody was there. And keep in mind, guys, I was literally brokenhearted over my dad. Like, losing my dad and everything. Like, I was in complete sh.
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A
How long ago did you lose him?
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B
20, 23.
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A
Oh, so this isn't that long ago, man.
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B
Yeah, so that was only three years ago.
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A
Wow, man, I didn't know that. So sorry to hear that.
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B
No, I. I have peace, though, because, like. Like it says, you will not mourn the way the world mourns because you have joy knowing that I have joy knowing that my daddy is in heaven and that he is with Jesus. So there's so much peace in that. And, like, I know that he's resting in the Lord, so I'm completely okay with that.
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A
Okay, so you see. You see Jesus's spirit in your room?
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B
Yes.
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A
While you're watching the show?
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B
I. I froze. I froze, but I knew it was Jesus. I can't explain it. I just know it was God and it was the Holy Spirit. I know. I just know it was him. And like, I. He just appears so, like. And it talks about, like, the invisible God in the Bible, in Colossians, like, the transparent man, which is Jesus. And that's how he was Jesus, because he appeared transparently. It couldn't. There was no flesh. It was just, you know, Jesus spirit. It was God. And I felt, oh, I feel the Holy Spirit on this one. It was peace and, oh, I love you, God. It was like, right now I can sense the peace that I know by even sharing this, this is going to touch someone. The peace that I felt by, you know, seeing Jesus in my room. He appeared so beautifully, gracefully, just. And then just disappeared. And then I told my mom the next day, mommy, I seen Jesus in my room. And they were looking at me like, you're not ways. Like, they would have been like, you're a head kiss. Like, they would have looked at me as if I was crazy. I told my auntie as well. This was real. This is a real event. Like this. This Jesus saved my soul. This is a real event that actually happened in my bedroom while I was, like, homeless and, you know, in my apartment and. And you know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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B
And I told my auntie as well. And they just looked at me as if I had, like, 10 heads. They thought I was crazy. But I know I'm not crazy. I know I'm not crazy. I know what I sing. And I'm testifying that I seen Jesus Christ in my room. I know that he's real. I felt the Holy Spirit right there when I just talked about that right there. The peace and the overwhelming joy that I felt right there. To share in that. That's going to touch someone out there. I pray that you hear that out there, guys. That's going to Touch you and you're going to be saved in the mighty name of Jesus.
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A
Amen. Amen. Okay, so you see, Jesus, you're still living as a woman and.
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B
Yeah, but at that point, I. I remember like, getting saved in my bedroom. I remember like, writing down. Like I was writing down with marker, you are Joshua. Like, it was like God was writing through me, reminding me. Yeah, God was reminding me, like, my identity. And then I remember, like, writing in my wee diary. I was like, journaling at the time. And I wrote my diary like, Josh McParland saved me. Like, I wrote that. But I. But I was me. It was actually me. It was God. It was. I couldn't save myself. We can't save ourselves. Only Jesus Khan like faith. But f come faith comes by hearing the word. And whenever I seen that girl on YouTube video as well, the girl Christina Cheney, like, the way she explained faith to me, it just touched my heart. Like, it just touched me. I can't explain. It was the Holy Spirit that touched my heart. And I just started to see, like, faith in such a completely new way, you know, it wasn't religion no more. It wasn't. It wasn't about religion. It was about relationship and it was about the love of God. It was about the love of God completely. And how God had just touched me. I can't explain it. And it gave me a new heart right then and there. I knew. And I remember messaging my sister. Jesus saved me. Like, Jesus saved me me. And you know, even like that and as well. And I remember, like, I was fasting and praying and then like, the deliverance as well that I got from as well. Like, I coughed out blood. Like, even last night I coughed out blood from even watching my testimony again.
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A
I know, dude, you showed. So, yeah, like, this is so, like, dude, it's so crazy. Like, I was talking to someone that doesn't believe in deliverance.
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B
Yeah, any.
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A
Any Christian that says that Christians can't have demons has just never been around deliverance ministry.
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B
Because if you open. If you open yourself up, back up to sin, then them demons can come back in. In. You know, when. When your house was swapped clean. If I had to knew that, I wouldn't have even, like, you know, I wouldn't even probably been neat, but I needed deliverance, so.
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A
Well, I. I told someone last night, or not last night, I told someone the other day who was saying, like, oh, Christians is like all this stuff online is just crazy of these deliverance things. And. And I. It was like a week after you had manifested Demons with me on FaceTime. And I'm like, I'm like, bro, I'm like, like, you can't make up a person throwing up like to make yourself puke. Like last night, you, you. We were on FaceTime last night. You showed me the throw up with blood in it.
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B
Yeah, there was blood. I literally showed him. And. And I got that first deliverance whenever I got first delivered. When I first got saved, Jesus delivered me from demons and blood literally came out of my mouth. So that's how I know it was like whatever I opened the door back up to, must have came back in, cuz they felt my house sleep clean. And Jesus cleared them out again last night. I believe that.
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A
Oh, dude. Well, I mean, it's really, really, like I said, it's really, really hard to fake throwing up blood. Like, that's.
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B
No. And then you. And then he was on the phone to me and he seen me like literally get delivered face to face. He was delivering me and it was legion. He delivered me from Legion. Like them demons and it says in the Bible that they rip and I don't even know I was. I. Like this. Whatever this was manifesting, it ripped my clothes. You seen that?
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A
Oh, bro.
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B
And it's literally biblical. It's literally the legions. The legions do that. It's biblical cold.
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A
So Joshua, I didn't even tell you this, so. And we. We can get into it now, I guess. So you called me on FaceTime.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I start praying for you and you start manifesting demons. And I'm like, I got to be home for dinner in 20 minutes. And I'm like, oh shoot. But I pulled over and then.
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B
Guys, keep in mind, like, was this like our first like, phone call?
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A
Like, I didn't even like our first phone call, bro.
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B
He's like, make me like getting delivered from geek.
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A
And I'm like, well, like there's a person suffering in front of me who's being tormented by demons. What am I going to do? So. So I start and. And fully. And I. This isn't. I'm not like a deliverance minister. Like I. Bro, I. A year ago I would have been like, what is your life right now? And so I'm on the phone with you and you start manifesting and I. It was like the Holy Spirit gave me insight in the moment to know what demons. It was really interesting. So I just was like, you got to operate with boldness here. So I start calling out. Out. I don't even remember what demons I called out, but like.
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B
Because they Were like, putting like, things in my head and then I was. And then I was able to call them out. And, you know, maybe that was the Holy Spirit exp. I was the Holy Spirit expelling them. Let's be honest.
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A
There was that man with you, that. There was that minister who you had called to come and be with you. And so he was there in the room.
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B
Oh, yeah. My friend who is Christian, also born again.
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A
Yeah, yeah. So that older man was there and he was praying over you. And I would basically say, get out in Jesus name name. And like, you said, I remember you seduced, you seducing spirit. Get out in Jesus name. And you would.
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B
These were like sensual, like, sensual spirits, like perverse demons. Whatever they were like, but thank God that I'm delivered. We rebuke those demons in Jesus mighty name.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And we die. And then we cast them out of our lives in the mighty name of Jesus.
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A
So, guys, I was reformed. I was conservative in my theology. I would have thought I was a wacko. But I have now, like, there comes a point in your faith where you see things that you're like, oh, now my theology needs to catch up because I wouldn't. I wouldn't have believed this stuff. But here I have a young man who's coming to me, who's walking out of living as a woman who just wants to pray with me on the phone. He starts manifesting demons. I say, get out in Jesus name. And you begin throwing up. And I'm like. And it's like, well, what. What does my theology say about that? Now? You know, you're in front of me, like, literally.
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B
And it is biblical. Like, Jesus says, like, he gave authority to. He gave authority to disciples to cast out dem. To heal the sick, you know, to. To. To put their hands on the sick or something. They will be. He. It's. It's biblical to cast out demons. Like, Jesus literally said, you can cast out demons in his name.
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A
So, yeah. So just to take you back into my thought process, that first call, like, I remember thinking, like, I need to call. I need to call someone who knows how to do this. And I really felt like the Lord was nudging me. Like, wait, wait, wait. Like, you. You have my name and you have my spirit. And so. So I just said, okay, like, get out in Jesus name. And then you start manifesting and throwing up and hacking stuff up. And then you. And then I could just look at you and you felt lighter. And then. And then we. That went for about an hour.
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B
And this one sets Free is free indeed.
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A
Amen. Amen.
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B
So Christians can have demons. However, they cannot be owned by a demon because the Holy Spirit owns them. However, demons can control a Christian, and that's why deliverance is so important. So you need deliverance to be delivered. However, the Holy Spirit will expel anything that is not from him in the mighty name of Jesus.
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A
Amen.
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B
Be delivered, guys.
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A
Amen, bro. And I think what's, what's. So, I think the reason why the Lord has had such a crazy transformation in your life is because you're humble and you're willing and, and you have, you have taken the steps of physical repentance. You have literally removed your breast implants. You have literally like, like, cut your hair and decided to go all in for Jesus.
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B
My face and let my pub, like, let my puberty naturally. Like, God has restored my body. I believe my voice. I do get a lot of comments on my voice, but I do believe God. I can speak like this too.
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A
Like, so you know what I mean?
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B
God will restore me, like, completely. So God restores my soul for his name's sake. It says in Psalm 23. So I believe God will continue to restore, deliver, and set free. You know, we're completely being restored every day. And, you know, we're always going to be battling against, against sin and the flesh. And, you know, the battle is the Lord. So the Lord rebuke you, Satan. Zechariah 32.
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A
Amen. And, and I think the important thing to share, too is, like, you're in the fight right now. Like, it's not like, we both are.
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B
We both are.
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A
What's that?
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B
We both are. Like, we're both in the fight.
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A
We all are. And, and, and I think so, so often people are like, well, you know, the person has to be completely set free and, and, and, and completely dialed in before they can do anything online. And, and you're coming and you're saying, hey, I am a living picture of what repentance looks like. And I'm a living literal warning sign for parents, for kids to say, do
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B
not do this for teenagers. Like, I'm warning you out of love. Like, God warned me out of love. You know, God warned us out of love not to do certain things for our own good. I'm so glad that God warned me. I'm so glad that God put people in my way. I'm so glad that I was able to confess that Jesus is Lord and believe in my heart that God raised him from the dead. You know what I mean? And that's what saved my soul? The Gospel. Literally, the message of this video. The gospel is so important. So if you're not aware of the gospel, Jesus died and was buried and resurrected again on the third day. And if you put your faith completely on his work, in his work alone, you will be saved. It is by grace, through faith that you have been saved, not a work of your own doing. So that no one can boast. Not me, not Ran, no one can boast like we're nothing. Jesus made himself nothing and took on the very nature of a servant. We also have the. We also have to have the same attitude. He was talking about being humble. That's literally scriptural, too. So that was God speaking through him. So, amen.
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A
Amen.
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B
For all have sinned and fell short of the glory of God. We have all sinned against God's moral law, so that exposes our sin. We do need a savior. However, you're not justified by the law. However, Jesus did not come to abolish them, but to fulfill the law and prophets. So what was spoken through the prophets in the Old Testament was fulfilled in the New Testament through Jesus.
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A
Amen, bro. And I'm just thinking right now, I'm like, the only way that, like, you are a forerunner in this, Joshua, and praise God for your love for his Word, because that has really renewed your mind and your willingness to say, hey, I have the humility to know that I've got some stuff that I need. I need help for my mental health. I need help for my spiritual health. I need to get deliverance. You have gone fully in to say, how do I become the healthiest man of God that I can be? And, like, I know you've been doing deliverance with Taylor Scroggins as well.
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B
Shout out to my sister. I love her so much. Church.
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A
Yes. Yeah, Taylor's amazing. And so you're getting wise counsel, and you're on your way, man. And you're a forerunner. And you're. You're a. A pillar in the kingdom of God in this time where we're seeing the demonic rage. And so I'm just so proud of you, buddy. And I just want to tell you, too, right now, your dad is so proud of you right now. Your dad is looking down, and he is just.
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B
I just can't wait to see him again. Like, just knowing that I will see him again is just gonna be. Be amazing because he really wanted his son back, and God really picked me up. The parable of the lost sheep. He goes to find the 99, you know, or he goes to find the 1 rather than the 99. And he found me. And thank God. Thank God for Jesus. You know? That's all I can say. Thank God for Jesus. He is the living hope. He is the resurrection. He is the life. That's. This is all about Jesus, guys. This is not even about me and Ryan. This is literally about God and God's glory and God's majesty and holy power and, you know, eternal power. Wow. You know, God is holy, you know. Wow. And, you know, by even believing in the gospel, like, you can literally spend eternity with Jesus and you can have a personal relationship, like, through the Holy Spirit, you know, with God. Through Jesus. Like, that's amazing.
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A
Well, bro, would you close this in prayer? Would you just. And would you pray for anyone listening right now that maybe has someone in their life that is battling gender dysphoria or transgenderism? And then would you just pray for anyone that's battling unrepentant sin? And, guys, as you're listening to this, would you just take Joshua as an example? Like, this man is coming out of church.
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B
No, guys, take Jesus as an example. I'm not.
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A
Well, Paul says, follow me, for I follow Christ. And you are. You have. You are laying down your life. You are laying down what was comfortable for you in order to follow him. So if you are living in unrepentant sin right now, guys, get right with the Lord. Repent, turn. Turn from your sin, and know that Jesus says he has come to give you life and life to the fullest.
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B
Amen. John 10:10. So don't forget to guess, guys.
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A
Amen. Joshua, why don't you close this in prayer?
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B
Yeah. Heavenly Father, I just give you thanks that you're able to put the words in my mouth, Father, that it is the Holy Spirit speaking through me, that whoever is watching this video, that they would be touched in the mighty name of Jesus, that they would come to know you, that they would no longer be confused about their gender, that they would come to know that they are knitted together perfectly in their mother's womb. That they would know that you want us to honor you with sexual purity in marriage and your covenant. Jesus. That is what. That is what sax is designed for. It is designed between a man and woman and not man and man, and not woman. Woman. I pray that that confusion would be gone in the mighty name of Jesus. I banged up any confusion for anybody that's watching this video, and I cast it off of their mind, out of their life, out of their body, in the mighty name of Jesus that the Holy Spirit would just completely touch them from the top of their head to the souls of their feet. I covered me and ran as we close out this video in the blood of Jesus. And I pray whoever is watching this, I cover you in the blood of Jesus also. I pray that you would put your faith completely in the gospel, Confess Jesus is Lord, believe in your heart God risen from the and you will be saved. And I just pray all these things. And if you confess your sins, actually Jesus is faithful just to forgive you. And he will also cleanse you from unrighteousness and make you new. That's the beauty of Jesus, you know, he's always making everything new. And praise God. You're a new creation in Christ. 2 Corinthians 5, 17. The oldest passed away and the new has begun. If you've accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior, congratulations, you're a child of God. Praise Jesus and God bless you. And I just close this prayer. And may this testimony reach souls mightily. In the mighty name of Jesus. Jesus. All glory to Jesus and honor and praise to the Lord who sits on the throne. Hallelujah of Heaven. In Jesus mighty name I pray. Amen. Amen.
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A
Amen. Joshua, you're the man. God bless you, bro. Thank you for being on the Jesus People podcast, guys. Thank you for tuning in. We will see you next week.
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B
Love you guys. Jesus loves you more, though.