Podcast Summary: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne

Episode 116: Healing & Righteousness, Part 1 (December 12, 2022)
Host: Nancy Dufresne, Dufresne Ministries

Episode Overview

This episode centers on the relationship between healing and righteousness, exploring how believers receive and keep their healing, the importance of living a life aligned with God’s ways, and understanding the spiritual flow of healing. Nancy Dufresne emphasizes that healing is both a manifestation of God's love and a spiritual reality accessed through faith and right standing with God. Drawing from Jesus’ healing miracles and practical insights, Nancy encourages listeners to become students of the Word to receive and sustain divine healing.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Power of Healing Is Always Present

• Nancy opens by encouraging listeners that God's healing power is present wherever they are—whether in a hospital room or elsewhere.
• Quote (00:12):

  “There’s enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one... Power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what’s not. Try to get something, but notice that he’s already made it yours.”

• She urges listeners to receive this power by faith (00:28):

  “Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now… from the top of my head to the soles of my feet.”

2. Healing as a Flow of the Love of God

• Nancy shares a personal story (01:42) of praying for a woman, noting that healing demonstrates God's love:

  “When I prayed for her healing… I said, ‘it shows her your love for her.’ ...when I said love, that God loved her, you could hear her audibly take it in.”

• Healing is framed as a tangible expression of divine love:

  “Healing is a love flow of God. Amen. Because love sent Jesus to purchase our healing.” (02:38)

3. Learning from Jesus’ Healing Miracles

• Nancy explains the value of studying healing accounts in Jesus’ ministry:

  “If we’ll learn what they did, do what they did, we’ll get what they got… There’s a reason the Holy Spirit recorded these accounts of healing for us.” (01:17)

• She reads and analyzes John 5:1-14, focusing on the man healed at the Pool of Bethesda (03:14–07:06), highlighting:
  • The symbolism of Jesus going to the sheep market (representing the sacrificial lamb).
  • The importance of the healed man’s actions after receiving healing—he was found in the temple.

4. How to Keep Your Healing: Lifestyle Matters

• Nancy stresses Jesus’ warning to the healed man:

  “Sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.” (07:47)
  She interprets this as counsel against a lifestyle of sin, not single acts: “He wasn’t saying to the man, if you just sin, that’s it, you’re going to lose your healing. … Don’t go into a lifestyle of sin.” (09:17)

• She emphasizes the need to “tend to your lifestyle” to not open the door to the enemy, who is always looking to steal what God has given (08:31).

5. Repentance and Righteousness

• Nancy teaches on 1 John 1:9, underscoring that forgiveness is available for believers:

  “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us… and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” (11:31)

• She explains the importance of naming sin, not minimizing it (13:09):

  “Don’t call a sin a miss… A sin has to be dealt with differently than just tripping over the floor and missing your step.”

• On forgiveness and moving forward:

  “Once we confess it, we are immediately forgiven, immediately cleansed, immediately made righteous... You don’t have to linger with a season of difficulty... to prove you’re sorry.” (16:23)

6. Receiving Healing After Forgiveness

• Nancy confronts the idea that feeling shame or suffering is required after repentance:

  “It’s doubt and unbelief to not forgive yourself because you’re doubting that you’re forgiven and cleansed.” (15:57)

• Encouraging boldness rooted in righteousness:

  “You don’t go into God with a sin consciousness... Once I’m forgiven, I’m righteous—because not believing that will hinder people from receiving the healing that belongs to them.” (19:47)

7. Healing Starts in the Spirit

• Noteworthy teaching from Kenneth E. Hagin quoted by Nancy (21:50):

  “If you will get your spirit where it ought to be, your body will start responding.”

• Healing, Nancy says, is a spiritual process that flows from the spirit to the body:

  “God doesn’t send healing to the body. He sends it to the spirit, and it flows out of the spirit into the body. What we need for our body has to reach our spirit first.” (22:22)

• She urges, “Always address what God is dealing with you about. If you do that, you’re going to keep your spirit where it ought to be.” (26:00)

8. Continual Correction and Growth

• Nancy frames ongoing correction as divine love, not condemnation:

  “God does not correct us so that we can turn in upon ourselves and become sin conscious, become failure conscious… He lifts us. Correction lifts us. Condemnation… pushes you down.” (24:46)

• The episode closes with the encouragement to address inward corrections, be teachable, and recognize God’s relentless love and help.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Healing and Love:

  “Healing is a love flow of God. Amen. Because love sent Jesus to purchase our healing.” (02:38)

• On Sin and Healing:

  “If we step away from the flow that brought us healing… we put ourselves at risk because the enemy’s looking for an opportunity to steal from you everything God’s blessed you with.” (08:31)

• On Forgiveness:

  “Once we confess it, we are immediately forgiven, immediately cleansed, immediately made righteous. … That means we forgive ourselves because he forgave us.” (16:23)

• On Receiving Boldly:

  “Come boldly to the throne of grace, that you may obtain mercy and find grace to help in the time of need. Well, how can we come boldly? Because we’re right with him.” (19:13)

• On Spiritual Alignment Preceding Physical Healing:

  “If you will get your spirit where it ought to be, your body will start responding.” (21:50, quoting Kenneth E. Hagin)

• On God’s Correction:

  “What an honor that someone who loves us so much is correcting us… Correction lifts us. Condemnation pushes you down…” (24:46)

Key Timestamps

• 00:10 – Introduction to God’s ever-present healing power
• 01:42 – Personal testimony on healing manifesting as God’s love
• 03:14–07:06 – Reading and breakdown of John 5:1–14 (healing at the Pool of Bethesda)
• 07:47 – Explanation of Jesus’ command: “Sin no more”
• 11:31 – Teaching on 1 John 1:9 and practical repentance
• 16:23 – Immediate restoration of righteousness and eligibility for healing after confession
• 19:13 – Coming boldly to God because of righteousness
• 21:50 – Quoting Hagin: spiritual order brings bodily healing
• 24:46 – Correction as a loving process

Conclusion

Nancy Dufresne reiterates that healing is a manifestation of God’s love, always available, and sustained by a righteous, responsive heart. True healing flows from the spirit, and believers are urged to live consciously in alignment with God’s correction and love, keeping short accounts with God and maintaining a lifestyle that allows healing to continue and abound.

Final thought:

“If you will get your spirit where it ought to be, your body will start responding.” (21:50)

Resources mentioned:

• Nancy Dufresne’s book The Healer Divine
• DufresneMinistries.org for teachings, testimonies, and event information

Next episode: Continuation of Healing & Righteousness—focusing on further in-depth teaching on this theme.