Podcast Summary: Jesus the Healer with Nancy Dufresne

Episode 118: Healing & Righteousness, Part 3
Date: December 14, 2022
Host: Nancy Dufresne

Episode Overview

In this episode, Nancy Dufresne continues her teaching on the relationship between healing and righteousness, digging deeper into biblical accounts of healing during Jesus’ ministry. Nancy emphasizes that a lifestyle of righteousness is directly connected to enjoying the fullness of divine healing. Using scriptural references, personal testimony, and wisdom from spiritual leaders, she demonstrates how aligning your spirit with God opens the way for healing to manifest and remain in your life.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Power Present for Healing—Right Now (00:10–02:00)

• Nancy opens by reinforcing faith in the ever-present power of God for healing:

  "There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one...power is present. That power is there to do a work."

• She stresses that healing is a flow of God’s love — Jesus was sent not just for sin, but also for healing.

2. Jesus’ Healing Ministry: The Pool of Bethesda (02:00–05:05)

• Nancy reviews John 5, emphasizing that Jesus’ ministry included continual healing, and his directions to those he healed contained wisdom for maintaining their healing.
• She references the healing of the man at the pool of Bethesda and Jesus’ instruction:

  "'Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.'...Sin gives the devil an opportunity to steal what God's blessed you with." (03:40)

3. Maintaining Healing: The Role of Righteousness (05:05–10:00)

• Nancy highlights the difference between positional righteousness (through Christ) and staying in right fellowship with God.
• If a believer sins, they don’t lose salvation but break fellowship; 1 John 1:9 provides a path back:

  "If we confess our sins, then God...will forgive us and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. The blood of Jesus makes it as though you never missed it." (06:50)

• Boldness in receiving from God should be the default for a cleansed believer.

4. "Get Your Spirit Where It Ought to Be" (10:00–17:45)

• Nancy shares a quote from Kenneth E. Hagin (“Dad Hagin”):

  "If you will get your spirit where it ought to be, your body will start responding."

• She explains spiritual health precedes physical health. God’s dealings and blessings come to our spirit first.
• Memorable Testimony: Nancy recounts her husband Ed’s healing from cancer:
  • Ed first sought God about where he may have missed it spiritually, rather than just quoting healing scriptures.
  • God revealed issues of rest/disobedience, Ed repented, and his healing followed:

    "The moment he repented, God said, okay, it'll all be gone in 30 days...when he got his spirit in order, his body started responding." (15:15)

5. Avoiding the Mental Arena—Staying in Faith and Spirit (17:45–21:15)

• Nancy warns listeners not to slip into excessive mental self-analysis over illness or problems, as this can lead to condemnation or confusion.
• Instead, believers should quiet their minds and look to the guidance of the Holy Spirit for correction or answers.

  "The mental arena is Satan's arena. You stay in the spirit arena, the faith arena." (18:55)

• Sincere, ongoing self-examination before God keeps the pipeline open for healing.

6. Connectedness of Sin, Righteousness, and Healing (21:15–25:25)

• Expounding on 1 Peter 2:24, she outlines that sin and sickness entered the world together—with righteousness and dominion over sin, believers can also enjoy health.

  "If you want to enjoy a lifestyle of healing, you have to enjoy a lifestyle of righteousness." (24:50)

• She urges believers:

  "Many times people give Jesus their heart, but they keep their life. They make him Lord of their heart, but not Lord of their daily life, which you can't really do." (25:10)

7. Right Living as Essential Armor (25:25–26:50)

• Discusses Ephesians 6:14—putting on the breastplate of righteousness means not just being made righteous in Christ, but also daily acting in righteousness.

  "We are equipped and authorized to live righteous...He empowers us. We're empowered to live right, to do right, to be." (26:15)

8. The Precious Inner Work of Healing (26:50–27:20)

• Nancy quotes F.F. Bosworth to highlight that the inner spiritual change is more significant than the physical miracle:

  "External results are like figures in a bank book that show you that you have gold deposited in the bank. The gold is more valuable than the figures written in the bank book."
  (Reference to F.F. Bosworth’s Christ the Healer)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Sin and Healing:

  "Sin gives the devil an opportunity to steal what God's blessed you with. So he's saying, don't go into a lifestyle of sin." (04:00)

• On Confession and Restoration:

  "The moment we confess and receive that forgiveness and cleansing, healing can be received. The blood of Jesus makes it as though you never missed it." (07:30)

• Dad Hagin’s Wisdom:

  "If you will get your spirit where it ought to be, your body will start responding." (11:40)

• Ed Dufresne Testimony:

  "When he got his spirit in order, his body started responding." (15:30)

• On Mental vs. Spiritual Approaches:

  "The mental arena is Satan's arena. You stay in the spirit arena, the faith arena." (19:00)

• Living Righteousness:

  "Many times people give Jesus their heart, but they keep their life. They make him Lord of their heart, but not Lord of their daily life." (25:10)

• F.F. Bosworth Quote:

  "External results are like figures in a bank book...the gold is more valuable than the figures written in the bank book." (27:00)

Key Timestamps

• 00:10–02:00 — Opening declaration of power present for healing now
• 03:30–05:00 — Explanation of Jesus’ instructions after healing at the pool of Bethesda
• 06:30–07:30 — The cleansing power of confession per 1 John 1:9
• 11:30–12:00 — Kenneth Hagin’s quote on spiritual alignment for healing
• 15:00–16:00 — Ed Dufresne’s personal testimony of spiritual correction preceding healing
• 19:00–20:00 — The dangers of seeking answers solely in the mental arena
• 23:00–25:00 — Connecting 1 Peter 2:24 (righteousness and healing)
• 26:00–27:00 — F.F. Bosworth on the inner work of healing

Final Thoughts

Nancy Dufresne makes clear that healing isn’t just a matter of claiming promises but is deeply connected to living a sincere, obedient, and righteous life. She underscores that healing is first spiritual, received by faith in a cleansed and aligned spirit, which then manifests physically. Addressing one's lifestyle and maintaining close fellowship with God are both essential for receiving and keeping divine healing.

To sum up:
Healing and righteousness are intertwined—living "right" before God keeps the spiritual channels open for healing to flow and remain. Confession, correction, and obedience are not condemnations, but gracious invitations to live in the wholeness Jesus paid for.

Resources/References Mentioned:

• Christ the Healer by F.F. Bosworth
• 1 Peter 2:24
• Kenneth E. Hagin’s teachings

For More:
Visit dufresneministries.org to explore additional resources and messages by Nancy Dufresne.