Podcast Summary: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast

Episode 837 | In Christ I Can, Part 77 | September 16, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne
Theme: Understanding our identity, authority, and walk “in Christ”—with a focus on living out God’s plan by cooperating with His Word and Spirit.

Episode Overview

This episode of Jesus the Healer explores what it means to live “in Christ,” emphasizing the daily application of God’s power, guidance, and wisdom available to believers. Nancy Dufresne teaches that being “in Christ” empowers us to live beyond our natural limitations, fulfill God’s unique plan for our lives, and discern the specific leading of the Holy Spirit. The episode blends foundational scripture teaching, practical advice, and personal testimony, helping listeners recognize their identity and authority in Christ, and how to skillfully follow both the Word and the Spirit.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Ever-Present Power of God (00:10–00:41)

• Nancy opens by reminding listeners of God’s tangible power, available wherever they are—especially relevant for those needing healing.
• Listeners are encouraged to receive God’s power actively:

  “Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now.” (00:33, Nancy Dufresne)

2. Living as One “In Christ” (00:43–03:23)

• Nancy shares how the current series began by the Spirit’s prompting, highlighting the unexpected depth in the topic of our identity in Christ.
• Key revelation: God put us in Christ so our lives would transform, not remain as before:

  “God did not put us in Christ so that we could keep doing what we did before...” (02:23)

• As believers, we are filled with the fullness of God so He can manifest through us.

3. Fulfilling God’s Plan Requires God’s Power (03:23–06:14)

• We are not left to fulfill God’s plan by human ability; we need the Godhead within us.

• The analogy of the glove and the hand:

  “We’re simply, if I could say this, the glove that the hand fills. And he is the one that gives our life movement and motion.” (05:05)

• Scriptural foundation:

  “Acts 17:28 – In him we live, in him we move, and in him we have our being. Notice this. He didn't leave Himself out of any of that.” (05:25)

• This applies to every part of us—spirit, soul, and body.

4. Obedience: The Pathway to Manifesting Christ (06:14–09:13)

• The Holy Spirit is the Performer:

  “Whenever we speak words agreeing with what God commands of our life, then the Holy Spirit will perform those words. If we take a day off from agreeing, then the Holy Spirit has to take a day off from performing.” (07:14)

• We must actively renew our minds to think like someone “in Christ,” never seeing ourselves as separate from Him.

5. The Balance of Word and Spirit (09:13–13:45)

• Believers must be both Word and Spirit people.

  • Word: Universal principles and promises for all.
  • Spirit: The Holy Spirit reveals the specifics of God’s plan for our individual lives.

• Example: “My God shall supply all your need...” (Phil. 4:19) provides a promise, but the Spirit must guide us in specifics like which job to take or where to live.

• Learning to discern the source of thoughts: Is it God, the devil, or just our own mind?

6. Discerning the Voice of God vs. Other Voices (13:45–21:43)

• God speaks to our spirit, not directly to the mind; what comes from Him is first perceived spiritually.

• Even when words seem right (the devil can quote Scripture), the source matters:

  “Some things from the devil can sound right, but you have to know, does that sit right with your own spirit?” (19:40)

• Notable example: Paul and the girl with the spirit of divination (Acts 16).

• Key insight on spiritual discernment:

  “The devil knows how the Holy Spirit sounds ... but he's still not the Holy Spirit. And because you have the Holy Spirit in your spirit, you can discern the difference.” (21:07)

• Jesus promised:

  “My sheep know my voice. And you can say this. You have to agree with God. I know his voice.” (21:19)

7. Sensitivity to the Holy Spirit: How To Grow (21:43–23:45)

• Two main ways:

  1. Feed on the Word.
  2. Speak/pray in other tongues.

• Doing these makes us more sensitive to the Spirit’s inner leading.

• Even new believers can discern the Spirit, as His leading brings peace to our spirit:

  “When the Holy Spirit is leading you, when he's speaking to you, there will always be peace in your spirit.” (23:20)

• When there is conflict between the spirit (peace) and the mind (trouble), follow the spirit.

8. Dividing Soul and Spirit (23:45–25:59)

• Referencing Hebrews 4:12, Nancy stresses the importance of seeing if an impulse arose from the soul (mind, will, emotions) or the spirit.

  “The Word of God helps us divide between what came out of our soul and what came out of our spirit. Notice: divide those, don't mingle those.” (24:11)

• Reasonings from the soul might muddy the pure leading of the Spirit. We are advised not to mix human logic with divine apprehension.

• Practical advice:

  “If he [God] says, 'I want you to start a business,' then say, 'Father, you tell me how to do it.' Don’t get your reasonings involved.” (25:21)

9. Walking in Clarity and Never Missing It (25:59–27:37)

• It is possible to never miss God’s leading again if we practice moving in Him and following peace in our spirits.
• Nancy shares a testimony of nearly entering the wrong relationship, but finding clarity through time spent praying in tongues.
• Key practice:

  “Take time to feed on the Word, but take time to pray in the Holy Ghost until you have clarity in your spirit... if you have peace about it, that is the clarity to move with...” (27:14)

Notable Quotes

• “God did not put us in Christ so that we could keep doing what we did before we were in Christ.”
  — Nancy Dufresne (02:23)

• “We’re simply, if I could say this, the glove that the hand fills. And he is the one that gives our life movement and motion.”
  — Nancy Dufresne (05:05)

• “If we take a day off from agreeing, then the Holy Spirit has to take a day off from performing.”
  — Nancy Dufresne (07:18)

• “The Spirit of God will always speak in agreement with the word of God, and he’ll always speak in agreement with the plan of God for your life.”
  — Nancy Dufresne (20:34)

• “My sheep know my voice. And ... I know his voice. And because I know his voice, I'll not follow the voice of another.”
  — Nancy Dufresne (21:19)

• “When the Holy Spirit is leading you ... there will always be peace in your spirit. Even if there's a troubling in your mind, ignore that.”
  — Nancy Dufresne (23:20)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:10–00:41 – The present power of God for healing
• 00:43–03:23 – The purpose and impact of teaching “in Christ”
• 03:23–06:14 – Only God in us can fulfill God’s plan for us
• 09:13–13:45 – Word and Spirit: General vs. specific guidance
• 19:10–21:43 – How to tell God’s voice from other voices
• 21:43–23:45 – Becoming sensitive to the Holy Spirit
• 23:45–25:59 – Dividing soul and spirit; dangers of reasoning
• 25:59–27:37 – It is possible to never miss God’s direction

Conclusion

Nancy Dufresne passionately calls listeners to renew their minds, feed on the Word, and cultivate sensitivity to the Holy Spirit through praying in tongues. The heart of her message: Living in Christ means we can expect to be led, empowered, and made successful—not in our own ability, but by God’s presence and direction inside us.
By practicing these principles, believers can walk confidently in God’s will, enjoying clarity, provision, and peace in every season.